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Frurst!

He's got his Pronk goin on.
Pronkalicous.

Pronk Bush
Pronk Cheney
Pronk 'em All~~

Go pronk yourself, Bush.

Finally, we have broken the two-party deadlock in American politics.

The Democratic Party.
The Republican Party.
The Clinton-Lieberman-I'm-Pissed-Off-Party.

Alex Jones, from Infowars/Prisonplanet fame, raised over $200,000 in a Ron Paul-styled money bomb to position himself to gain access to the Dish Network.

People will pay to hear the Truth.

I was all prepared to love and support Hillary but who would know there would come along a guy named Obama to steal away both my heart and head.

Still, I am Woman at heart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPd8mXqgOio

God Bless Everyone today!

Hey all!

I am looking for Hillary supporters. If you’re in Hils camp, would you pop by here when you get a sec?

http://livefrankly.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/an-honest-question-to-clinto...

Thanks in advance!

What the pronk was that or this article about? How did Hillary get into Pronksville?

Rebel Patriot @ 6:

Alex Jones, from Infowars/Prisonplanet fame, raised over $200,000 in a Ron Paul-styled money bomb to position himself to gain access to the Dish Network.

People will pay to hear the Truth.

You better believe it!

DemocracyNow and the stuff on LINK and Free Speech TV are the only reason Dish is my network of choice. FSTV and LINK offer the most amazing views of the world and real news - something that has been sorely lacking for too long.

I will look for that. Keep us posted, will ya?

Don Davis @ 8:

Forget DNC’s ‘Half-Math’: Bill Clinton Cites Founding Fathers in Battle Against Obama

anything about being 3/5ths of a president?

MsJoanne @ 9:

Hey all!

I am looking for Hillary supporters. If you’re in Hils camp, would you pop by here when you get a sec?

http://livefrankly.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/an-honest-question-to-clinto...

Thanks in advance!

I wasn't in Hils camp but I popped in away. Thanks. I feel better today. I see the light at the end of the dark Republican tunnel and there's a Democrat at the other end.

"When we come together as Americans, there's no problem we can't solve, there's no destiny we can't fulfill." I didn't say that, somebody else did.

America ... One of the MOST Christian Nations in the World
is also one of the less Spiritual.

Visit the Altered States of America, Step beyond the borders and see what is going on.

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Do yourself a favor. Go visit this site and get your friends and families to look into it.
Spread it around, we Progressives can still SAVE America.

Oh for Pronk's sake can't they just pronk this pronkane so we can focus on the general pronkentions? Hillary, step off already, you pronk!

I'd rather watch Mind of Mencia.

Pronkitis @ 16:

Oh for Pronk's sake can't they just pronk this pronkane so we can focus on the general pronkentions? Hillary, step off already, you pronk!

Pronkitis @ 16:

Oh for Pronk's sake can't they just pronk this pronkane so we can focus on the general pronkentions? Hillary, step off already, you pronk!</blockquote
Talk like that about Hillary isn't necessary and doesn't help. Some of us are having a kumbaya moment right now. Let us enjoy it, even though it may be fleeting.

Oh, great. Terry McAuliffe is here. He says that by every standard that does not count toward selecting a nominee, Clinton is doing well, and if the Democrats hadn't decided long ago on a set of rules that governs their process, Obama would be losing.

Rico @ 18:

Pronkitis @ 16:

Oh for Pronk's sake can't they just pronk this pronkane so we can focus on the general pronkentions? Hillary, step off already, you pronk!

Pronkitis @ 16:

Oh for Pronk's sake can't they just pronk this pronkane so we can focus on the general pronkentions? Hillary, step off already, you pronk!</blockquote
Talk like that about Hillary isn't necessary and doesn't help. Some of us are having a kumbaya moment right now. Let us enjoy it, even though it may be fleeting.

please! Don't get all pronked up about it? It's a little bit pronkacious of you, don't you pronk?

The Marklar Marklared that Marklar from Marklar, only they Marklared the Marklar and it's now Pronk.

With that, I think I Pronked my Pronk... gotta take two Pronks and take a Pronk for a few Pronks.

Pronk it all!

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 19:

Oh, great. Terry McAuliffe is here. He says that by every standard that does not count toward selecting a nominee, Clinton is doing well, and if the Democrats hadn't decided long ago on a set of rules that governs their process, Obama would be losing.

You got that right. If you can't win by the current rules, you make up your own rules. That's how dictators do it. Rock on, Hillary!

Guardian columnist George Monbiot attempted a citizen's arrest on John Bolton during a speech in Wales.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4bAqcQU0qU

Fired up and ready to go! I have tears in my eyes right now. I've never been more proud to be a Democrat.

Pronkitis @ 22:

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 19:

Oh, great. Terry McAuliffe is here. He says that by every standard that does not count toward selecting a nominee, Clinton is doing well, and if the Democrats hadn't decided long ago on a set of rules that governs their process, Obama would be losing.

you mean PRONK ON, HILLARY!

You got that right. If you can't win by the current rules, you make up your own rules. That's how dictators do it. Rock on, Hillary!

LOL, pronk, to pronk, pronking, pronked, means to jump or bound straight up.

Deer or other deer like critters that jump when they run pronk.

Don't know where he got it means good unless it is slang used by the good ole boy hunters in whatever backwoods district he represents.

Verb 1. pronk - jump straight up; "kangaroos pronk"

also

1. pronk
155 up, 2 down
n., v., adj., adv.
A word used in Virginia's 11th district with great frequency. Used by congressman Rep. William Cummings in a broadcast by The Onion News Network's O-span. Some of its various meanings include:
1. Good or very, at least in Virginia's 11th district
2. An unfortunate state of affairs
3. A writing utensil
4. A tax stimulus
5. The number three
6. Variant: Pronklem - a problem
7. Variant: Pronkrageous - outrageous
8. Variant: Pronksurd - absurd
9. In context, "Pronk of order" - out of order
10. Experience
11. Variant: Pronkspect - respect

So you know exactly what he is talking about

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pronk

Rico @ 18:

Talk like that about Hillary isn't necessary and doesn't help. Some of us are having a kumbaya moment right now. Let us enjoy it, even though it may be fleeting.

-- -- -- --
Actually, talk like that IS necessary and does help. Hillary needs someone to clue her in, and I'm providing her with that clue free of charge. You should be thanking me.

Pronk out!

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 25:

Pronkitis @ 22:

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 19:

Oh, great. Terry McAuliffe is here. He says that by every standard that does not count toward selecting a nominee, Clinton is doing well, and if the Democrats hadn't decided long ago on a set of rules that governs their process, Obama would be losing.

you mean PRONK ON, HILLARY!

You got that right. If you can't win by the current rules, you make up your own rules. That's how dictators do it. Rock on, Hillary!

Ooops. Yes. "Pronk on". Sorry about that.

Pronkitis @ 28:

Rico @ 18:

Talk like that about Hillary isn't necessary and doesn't help. Some of us are having a kumbaya moment right now. Let us enjoy it, even though it may be fleeting.

-- -- -- --
Actually, talk like that IS necessary and does help. Hillary needs someone to clue her in, and I'm providing her with that clue free of charge. You should be thanking me.

Pronk out!

What, no last word Melvin?

Watch The Onion movie! Comes out this week, absolutely HILARIOUS!!!

Pronkitis @ 28:

Rico @ 18:

Talk like that about Hillary isn't necessary and doesn't help. Some of us are having a kumbaya moment right now. Let us enjoy it, even though it may be fleeting.

-- -- -- --
Actually, talk like that IS necessary and does help. Hillary needs someone to clue her in, and I'm providing her with that clue free of charge. You should be thanking me.

Pronk out!

Hillary doesn't need a clue from you or me or anybody else because I suspect she understands. I want to make peace with Hillary supporters because if the situations were reversed, I would hope they would want to do the same. The enemy is the Republican.

Jabookindoggins @ 30:

Pronkitis @ 28:

Rico @ 18:

Talk like that about Hillary isn't necessary and doesn't help. Some of us are having a kumbaya moment right now. Let us enjoy it, even though it may be fleeting.

-- -- -- --
Actually, talk like that IS necessary and does help. Hillary needs someone to clue her in, and I'm providing her with that clue free of charge. You should be thanking me.

Pronk out!

What, no last word Melvin?

Who's Melvin?

Mel @ 23:

Guardian columnist George Monbiot attempted a citizen's arrest on John Bolton during a speech in Wales.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4bAqcQU0qU

GREAT video!

I hope Bolton is tried, convicted and hung like the good criminal he is. That video is spot on.

Good for Mr. Monbiot.

Pronkitis @ 33:

Jabookindoggins @ 30:

Pronkitis @ 28:

Rico @ 18:

Talk like that about Hillary isn't necessary and doesn't help. Some of us are having a kumbaya moment right now. Let us enjoy it, even though it may be fleeting.

-- -- -- --
Actually, talk like that IS necessary and does help. Hillary needs someone to clue her in, and I'm providing her with that clue free of charge. You should be thanking me.

Pronk out!

What, no last word Melvin?

Who's Melvin?

Melvin Udell of course. Last word, "Freak"
surley you know this.twobee

Rico @ 24:

Fired up and ready to go! I have tears in my eyes right now. I've never been more proud to be a Democrat.

OMG! Thank you for saying that! I, too, teared up big time. I thought I was being hormonal or something.

Rico @ 32:

Hillary doesn't need a clue from you or me or anybody else because I suspect she understands. I want to make peace with Hillary supporters because if the situations were reversed, I would hope they would want to do the same. The enemy is the Republican.

The enemy isn't republican. Saying that the enemy is republican is akin to blind loyalty regardless of values. Hillary is a republican in disguise. One day she WILL pull a Lieberman. Having said that, I could care less if she is a democrat or not, and the same goes for Pelosi and the rest of them who stood idly by and did nothing while the war raged on.

So at the end of the day, Republican or Democrat is the same pronk. The difference lies in their actions, not the labels they choose to carry around.

Jewish voters have actually been more supportive of Obama than whites in general in seven out of eight primary states with significant Jewish populations - Florida included. (In New York, Clinton's home state, Obama's share of the Jewish vote lagged four percentage points behind his performance with white voters.) Moreover, a Gallup Poll released in May showed that 61% of Jewish voters nationwide prefer Obama versus 32% for McCain, compared with a margin in the general population of 45% to 43%.

Given this broader picture, some members of Florida's Jewish community worry that the focus on Jewish voters in recent weeks had created a false impression that Jewish voters are uniquely critical of the man overwhelmingly likely to be the country's first African American presidential nominee, when in reality Obama is reaching out to Jews in order to shore up a cornerstone of his base.

MsJoanne @ 34:

Mel @ 23:

Guardian columnist George Monbiot attempted a citizen's arrest on John Bolton during a speech in Wales.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4bAqcQU0qU

GREAT video!

I hope Bolton is tried, convicted and hung like the good criminal he is. That video is spot on.

Good for Mr. Monbiot.

BIG PRONKS for Monbiot

Jabookindoggins @ 35:

Melvin Udell of course. Last word, "Freak"
surley you know this.twobee

I guess Melvin is as good as it gets.

Pronkitis @ 29:

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 25:

Pronkitis @ 22:

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 19: you mean PRONK ON, HILLARY!

You got that right. If you can't win by the current rules, you make up your own rules. That's how dictators do it. Rock on, Hillary!

Ooops. Yes. "Pronk on". Sorry about that.

PRONKed

Pronkitis @ 37:

Rico @ 32:

Hillary doesn't need a clue from you or me or anybody else because I suspect she understands. I want to make peace with Hillary supporters because if the situations were reversed, I would hope they would want to do the same. The enemy is the Republican.

The enemy isn't republican. Saying that the enemy is republican is akin to blind loyalty regardless of values. Hillary is a republican in disguise. One day she WILL pull a Lieberman. Having said that, I could care less if she is a democrat or not, and the same goes for Pelosi and the rest of them who stood idly by and did nothing while the war raged on.

So at the end of the day, Republican or Democrat is the same pronk. The difference lies in their actions, not the labels they choose to carry around.

You absolutely pronked that one.

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 41:

PRONKed

I admit I was a little pronked when I typed that.

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 42:

Pronkitis @ 37:

Rico @ 32:

Hillary doesn't need a clue from you or me or anybody else because I suspect she understands. I want to make peace with Hillary supporters because if the situations were reversed, I would hope they would want to do the same. The enemy is the Republican.

The enemy isn't republican. Saying that the enemy is republican is akin to blind loyalty regardless of values. Hillary is a republican in disguise. One day she WILL pull a Lieberman. Having said that, I could care less if she is a democrat or not, and the same goes for Pelosi and the rest of them who stood idly by and did nothing while the war raged on.

So at the end of the day, Republican or Democrat is the same pronk. The difference lies in their actions, not the labels they choose to carry around.

You absolutely pronked that one.

Thank. High pronks!

This was pronk. I gotta go get ready for dinner with my pronks tonight. Pronk out all you pronks and keep up the good pronk. It's a pronky world out there.

That Onion clip was Smurfilicious!

Also, Ms. Joanne, while I'm a Hillary supporter, I'm part of the 70% of Dem voters who even though they have their preferences haven't cared who ultimately won the candidacy -- we've always been committed to vote for whoever gets it.

Also, FTR, I have very little problem with Obama being the candidate. My only concern regarding Obama is that he seems to be afraid of the principle of one person, one vote (OPOV) with regards to Florida and Michigan, seemingly lacking any concern over losing the states in the November election and seemingly afraid that letting the votes stand as is would threaten or delegitimize his candidacy for the party nomination. A couple of months ago, a pro-Obama pundit at Huffington Post (I forget who now) recommended that Obama simply let Florida and Michigan be seated in full as is because it would be a show of strength and confidence on Obama's part regarding his chances for winning the nomination to count OPOV. That he has failed to do so this far into the campaign makes him look like a weaker, more petty and more naive candidate than Obama supporters think (read: feel) that he is. Go all in, Obama, call Hillary's bluff by having every vote count as cast. The Daniel Negreanu of campaign poker Obama is not. IOW, if he were DN, he would have gone all in in early March. And would have won then. I am very concerned that he is not nearly aggressive enough or decisive enough to act and react against the Repugnicans in the general election, but all of those are minor concerns that I think he can eventually overcome.

My suggestion in replying to me is to NOT argue with me about the above as I've stated that I think they're minor concerns that can be overcome. My real problems, which I invite discussion on, are two fold:

1) the principle of OPOV has been utterly violated by the DNC and supporters of the disenfranchisement of Michigan and, especially, Florida, in this election season by the atrocious, inexcusable (in every way, shape and form) penalties that they have inflicted on those states. And after the 2000 election, one would think that the Democratic Party would have figured out how to not let that ever happen again, much less in the primary season this time. He's opened himself up to Repugnican attacks due to his adherence to technical rules at the expense of the principle and the spirit of OPOV.

and

2) I object to the perpetual [Kristin Wiig] Obamagasm [/Kristin Wiig] of the lunatic fringe of Obama supporters who clearly don't care about the principle of OPOV. I despise the cult of personalities in both candidates' campaigns and think that the Cult of Personality within the larger group of Obama supporters as a whole will alienate centrist voters of both parties just as much as the Cult of Personality within the larger group of Hillary supporters. Among whom I count the Big Money People -- such as Harvey Weinstein -- who have or have threatened to pull financial support from the party for various perceived non-gender-based affronts to Hillary. (The gender-based affronts: legitimate, BID.)

And within the Obama Cult of Personality, MSNBC's Olbermann, Matthews and Gregory need to bring in Democratic pundits (even Hillary supporters) who will support Obama without being sycophantic -- how about Krugman, Earl Ofari Hutchinson and the like? The whiny Howard Fineman, the perpetually cheery Obama-has-no-faults Eugene Robinson and Chris Matthews (who is, after all, Chris Matthews) offer no real perspective on the Obama campaign -- by contrast with Jonathan Alter and Rachel Maddow, who IMO both put analysis above personal preference. (And AFAIK, Maddow is the only declared Obama supporter in the group!)

-- Rob

ronhohn @ 27:

Verb 1. pronk - jump straight up; "kangaroos pronk"

also

1. pronk
155 up, 2 down
n., v., adj., adv.
A word used in Virginia's 11th district with great frequency. Used by congressman Rep. William Cummings in a broadcast by The Onion News Network's O-span. Some of its various meanings include:
1. Good or very, at least in Virginia's 11th district
2. An unfortunate state of affairs
3. A writing utensil
4. A tax stimulus
5. The number three
6. Variant: Pronklem - a problem
7. Variant: Pronkrageous - outrageous
8. Variant: Pronksurd - absurd
9. In context, "Pronk of order" - out of order
10. Experience
11. Variant: Pronkspect - respect

So you know exactly what he is talking about

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pronk

Pronktacular!

Pronkitis @ 43:

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 41:

PRONKed

I admit I was a little pronked when I typed that.

I was pronked reading it.
:<[)

>SQUELCH PRONK.

Put that one under the category of "Lessons Learned." Back to the point...this is a happy day for Democrats.

Rob Jensen @ 46:
ok, that's not really worth quoting, so I won't. It was petty and vicious and exactly what hillary's hateful hordes spew. so I guess it's true to form for you.
all that cutting and pasting was quite a chore, I bet.
It's a shame because you could at least have cut and paste something worth responding to.
You, sir, have no pronk!

bush/cheney had the judge removed in a gitmo
trial because he would not just rule in bush's favor so.

this is the same kind of justice you can expect from bush
after he declares martial law just before the 2008 elections
from his phone and illegal over throw of the govt after
declaring a national emergency and threat to the USA.
bush and cheney are f#cking reichwingneocon fascist dictators.

why do you think bush/cheney renewed blackwater's contract
secretly for another year? because they are just sweet?

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 15:

America ... One of the MOST Christian Nations in the World
is also one of the less Spiritual....

christian in name only. and they would have killed christ as a pinko-commie-pacifist.

Quick, any bet takers??

Clinton is getting ready to speak after a great victory in Puerto Rico.

Will she be gracious and show unity??

or,
"I won HA HA , now you all can kiss my ass.."

I bet she says "Kiss it Obama!"

dadams @ 51:
we'll find out about the master plan (order 58?) some time near the election.

hazmaq @ 53:
I think I will bet on the same side as you.

hazmaq @ 53:

I bet she says "Kiss it Obama!"

Don't worry the Obama camp and their minions in the media have made it very clear the "new guard" - the "new" party of Obama - doesn't "need" those stinkin' low-income voters, old people, working people, the Rev Wrights, Pflegers etc, etc.

Been watching some of the primary coverage today, I am convinced that with vary few exceptions the media right and left is made up almost entirely of mindless pronkholes.

er very not vary..sorry a pronked that up good didn't I.

hazmaq @ 53:

Quick, any bet takers??

Clinton is getting ready to speak after a great victory in Puerto Rico.

Will she be gracious and show unity??

or,
"I won HA HA , now you all can kiss my ass.."

I bet she says "Kiss it Obama!"

This will be the test. If she throws a dagger in her victory speech, then it's a signal she's not interested in the VP slot.

Obviously, the voters in PR didn't get the daily Obama worship message. Guess they are drinking rum and not the koolaid regularly served here. Already the Daily KosObamanation is talking about the PRs being racists. Why else wouldn't they vote in droves for the Chosen One. Hope you like the one-term president McBush (R; Arizona) and his Veep Lieberman (R; Israel). Pronkyoutoo.

She IS NOT a team player whatsoever. All about her. No humility. I can hardly stand to see someone so self serving.

Okay. I listened. I was not moved. In fact, she depressed me and I was feeling so good. If Obama selects her as V.P., then he has effectively selected to place an anchor around his neck. If you have any doubt, ask Gore about Lieberman.

Rico @ 62:

Okay. I listened. I was not moved. In fact, she depressed me and I was feeling so good. If Obama selects her as V.P., then he has effectively selected to place an anchor around his neck. If you have any doubt, ask Gore about Lieberman.

If Obama picks her, he should stay away from small planes and open spaces.

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 63:

Rico @ 62:

Okay. I listened. I was not moved. In fact, she depressed me and I was feeling so good. If Obama selects her as V.P., then he has effectively selected to place an anchor around his neck. If you have any doubt, ask Gore about Lieberman.

If Obama picks her, he should stay away from small planes and open spaces.

and pizza parlors , open swimming pools , basket ball games, bowling alleys, tatoo parlors, nascar races , roller derbys , arm wresteling contests, bagaloo dances, and women of low virtue!

Rico @ 62:

Did you see her using mirrors to talk to the Super D's??
While she wasn't one bit gracious, she did did tell 'Unity' to Kiss It!

And while she about enlisted the M-87 gangs of South America to come up and help her win- she clearly threw in everyones face her power with the Latino community -a direct biftchslap to African Americans.

This Medusa has turned all but her hard core supporters into stone, there isn't anyone left willing to run to her aid. On Tuesday she and her husband will fade into bitter obscurity.

Rob Jensen @ 46:

That Onion clip was Smurfilicious!

Also, Ms. Joanne, while I'm a Hillary supporter, I'm part of the 70% of Dem voters who even though they have their preferences haven't cared who ultimately won the candidacy -- we've always been committed to vote for whoever gets it.

Also, FTR, I have very little problem with Obama being the candidate. My only concern regarding Obama is that he seems to be afraid of the principle of one person, one vote (OPOV) with regards to Florida and Michigan, seemingly lacking any concern over losing the states in the November election and seemingly afraid that letting the votes stand as is would threaten or delegitimize his candidacy for the party nomination. A couple of months ago, a pro-Obama pundit at Huffington Post (I forget who now) recommended that Obama simply let Florida and Michigan be seated in full as is because it would be a show of strength and confidence on Obama's part regarding his chances for winning the nomination to count OPOV. That he has failed to do so this far into the campaign makes him look like a weaker, more petty and more naive candidate than Obama supporters think (read: feel) that he is. Go all in, Obama, call Hillary's bluff by having every vote count as cast. The Daniel Negreanu of campaign poker Obama is not. IOW, if he were DN, he would have gone all in in early March. And would have won then. I am very concerned that he is not nearly aggressive enough or decisive enough to act and react against the Repugnicans in the general election, but all of those are minor concerns that I think he can eventually overcome.

My suggestion in replying to me is to NOT argue with me about the above as I've stated that I think they're minor concerns that can be overcome. My real problems, which I invite discussion on, are two fold:

1) the principle of OPOV has been utterly violated by the DNC and supporters of the disenfranchisement of Michigan and, especially, Florida, in this election season by the atrocious, inexcusable (in every way, shape and form) penalties that they have inflicted on those states. And after the 2000 election, one would think that the Democratic Party would have figured out how to not let that ever happen again, much less in the primary season this time. He's opened himself up to Repugnican attacks due to his adherence to technical rules at the expense of the principle and the spirit of OPOV.

and

2) I object to the perpetual [Kristin Wiig] Obamagasm [/Kristin Wiig] of the lunatic fringe of Obama supporters who clearly don't care about the principle of OPOV. I despise the cult of personalities in both candidates' campaigns and think that the Cult of Personality within the larger group of Obama supporters as a whole will alienate centrist voters of both parties just as much as the Cult of Personality within the larger group of Hillary supporters. Among whom I count the Big Money People -- such as Harvey Weinstein -- who have or have threatened to pull financial support from the party for various perceived non-gender-based affronts to Hillary. (The gender-based affronts: legitimate, BID.)

And within the Obama Cult of Personality, MSNBC's Olbermann, Matthews and Gregory need to bring in Democratic pundits (even Hillary supporters) who will support Obama without being sycophantic -- how about Krugman, Earl Ofari Hutchinson and the like? The whiny Howard Fineman, the perpetually cheery Obama-has-no-faults Eugene Robinson and Chris Matthews (who is, after all, Chris Matthews) offer no real perspective on the Obama campaign -- by contrast with Jonathan Alter and Rachel Maddow, who IMO both put analysis above personal preference. (And AFAIK, Maddow is the only declared Obama supporter in the group!)

-- Rob

You truly seem to forget that the Rules where KNOWN in advance to everybody!!!!
The voters in Michigan and Florida KNEW they would be discounted because of there comittes broke the rules.. stop getting missinformation out pls..

hazmaq @ 65:

Rico @ 62:

Did you see her using mirrors to talk to the Super D's??
While she wasn't one bit gracious, she did did tell 'Unity' to Kiss It!

And while she about enlisted the M-87 gangs of South America to come up and help her win- she clearly threw in everyones face her power with the Latino community -a direct biftchslap to African Americans.

This Medusa has turned all but her hard core supporters into stone, there isn't anyone left willing to run to her aid. On Tuesday she and her husband will fade into bitter obscurity.

Although your M-87 remark startles me, I lived through the 60's, I grew up with a thick skin and I understand the remark. As far as her power with the Latin community, it's mostly B.S. If she were sincere, she'd at least learn how to pronounce Puerto Rico, especially since she and her family spent most of the last two weeks there. ¡Que tonta!

As far as Black and White...I'm pissed about that too. As a white guy who has supported Obama since Day 1, I'm still stunned that so many of my black friends presume I'm for Hillary because I'm white. Racism works both ways and we have a long way to go in this country.

Bill Clinton was a terrific president. Hillary will be the same if not better.
Those of you who are satisfied with the past eight years under Bush will
vote for McCain on the pretext that your candidate didn't make it. How
sad. Well you boneheads will get what you asked for & get what you
deserve too. :-(

Rob Jensen @ 46:

That Onion clip was Smurfilicious!

Also, Ms. Joanne, while I'm a Hillary supporter, I'm part of the 70% of Dem voters who even though they have their preferences haven't cared who ultimately won the candidacy -- we've always been committed to vote for whoever gets it.

-- Rob

EXACTLY!! Anyone but McCain! No McCain no matter what. Everyone needs to get that going. Our futures depend on it!

I have a fascinating dialog going on at my blog if anybody is interested. I am mostly staying out of it but it's truly fascinating to watch. I posted the same thing at TPM and there is additional dialog going on there. I am truly interested in what the Clinton supporters are basing their decisions on.

A fellow poker player, eh? May the force of Erik Lundgren be with you (he is soooooooooooo delish!). If you're interested in reading some of my poker blogging stuff, you can go here. The poker posts are older but some are lengthy and hopefully insightful.

Ratface @ 69:

Bill Clinton was a terrific president. Hillary will be the same if not better.
Those of you who are satisfied with the past eight years under Bush will
vote for McCain on the pretext that your candidate didn't make it. How
sad. Well you boneheads will get what you asked for & get what you
deserve too. :-(

Hillary isn't Bill. I didn't realize Bill was running again.

Mike @ 67:

You truly seem to forget that the Rules where KNOWN in advance to everybody!!!!
The voters in Michigan and Florida KNEW they would be discounted because of there comittes broke the rules.. stop getting missinformation out pls..

I find this maddening. Same for people blaming Obama for the results. They both brought their best game to the RBC and the results are the results. Should states be able to move their dates on their own? No. Should IA and NH go first every year? NO! Hopefully, after this nightmare, they will fix that and rotate states annually.

MsJoanne @ 71:

Ratface @ 69:

Bill Clinton was a terrific president. Hillary will be the same if not better.
Those of you who are satisfied with the past eight years under Bush will
vote for McCain on the pretext that your candidate didn't make it. How
sad. Well you boneheads will get what you asked for & get what you
deserve too. :-(

Hillary isn't Bill. I didn't realize Bill was running again.

Apparently neither did the Hillary supporters that have used and continue to use his record to show their support of her. She ain't Bill. She cannot lay claim to anything Bill has done. What she can lay claim to, is fewer experiences than Obama, and claiming more. Oh and that Iraq vote thing that her supporters deny.

When did Puerto Rico become a state? How can they have a primary if they are NOT a state? And what is the significance of winning a primary in Puerto Rico, where the numbers appear to be around the 15-20% turnout? Does Puerto Rico get satellite television? Have they ever heard of Hillary Clinton? Why are dogs lips black? If a bear craps in the woods, and nobody is around, does he still wipe his butt with the rabbit?

NEWS! NEWS! NEWS!

The Onion goes out of buisness claims it cant trump the comic value of reality anymore..

1Watt @ 66:

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003810398

Heartbreaking and disgusting!

ConcernedCanuck @ 73:

MsJoanne @ 71:

Ratface @ 69:

Bill Clinton was a terrific president. Hillary will be the same if not better.
Those of you who are satisfied with the past eight years under Bush will
vote for McCain on the pretext that your candidate didn't make it. How
sad. Well you boneheads will get what you asked for & get what you
deserve too. :-(

Hillary isn't Bill. I didn't realize Bill was running again.

Apparently neither did the Hillary supporters that have used and continue to use his record to show their support of her. She ain't Bill. She cannot lay claim to anything Bill has done. What she can lay claim to, is fewer experiences than Obama, and claiming more. Oh and that Iraq vote thing that her supporters deny.

In my eyes, Kyl-Lieberman is by far worse than AUMF. AUMF was bad enough. K-L is an abomination. That would be like saying any country could call our Army, Navy, AF or Marines terrorists and just go blow them up.

It’s way beyond a slippery slope. It’s the aftermath of a mudslide.

MsJoanne @ 77:

ConcernedCanuck @ 73:

MsJoanne @ 71:

Ratface @ 69:

Hillary isn't Bill. I didn't realize Bill was running again.

Apparently neither did the Hillary supporters that have used and continue to use his record to show their support of her. She ain't Bill. She cannot lay claim to anything Bill has done. What she can lay claim to, is fewer experiences than Obama, and claiming more. Oh and that Iraq vote thing that her supporters deny.

In my eyes, Kyl-Lieberman is by far worse than AUMF. AUMF was bad enough. K-L is an abomination. That would be like saying any country could call our Army, Navy, AF or Marines terrorists and just go blow them up.

It’s way beyond a slippery slope. It’s the aftermath of a mudslide.

The problem is, she's shown her colours and they are Republican. Her supporters look at her, and see and hear nothing. They see Bill and remember those "good ol' days" of fake profits, non-paper trail business booms, and the beginnings of all those trade deals. They don't see negatives. They see nothing.

Fuck The Onion

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 52:

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 15:

America ... One of the MOST Christian Nations in the World
is also one of the less Spiritual....

christian in name only. and they would have killed christ as a pinko-commie-pacifist.

Wanna make a bet that JC was a Roman AP and his mission was to gather the radicals into one spot for arrest and disposal.
then they pulled a fast one by substituting some common crim unrecognizable after beatings to be crucified.
And voila JC miraculously able to reappear after 3 days underground.

MsJoanne @ 77:

ConcernedCanuck @ 73:

MsJoanne @ 71:

Ratface @ 69:

Hillary isn't Bill. I didn't realize Bill was running again.

Apparently neither did the Hillary supporters that have used and continue to use his record to show their support of her. She ain't Bill. She cannot lay claim to anything Bill has done. What she can lay claim to, is fewer experiences than Obama, and claiming more. Oh and that Iraq vote thing that her supporters deny.

In my eyes, Kyl-Lieberman is by far worse than AUMF. AUMF was bad enough. K-L is an abomination. That would be like saying any country could call our Army, Navy, AF or Marines terrorists and just go blow them up.

It’s way beyond a slippery slope. It’s the aftermath of a mudslide.

I'd settle for blackwater being called a terrorist organization.

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 80:

CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 52:

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 15:

America ... One of the MOST Christian Nations in the World
is also one of the less Spiritual....

christian in name only. and they would have killed christ as a pinko-commie-pacifist.

Wanna make a bet that JC was a Roman AP and his mission was to gather the radicals into one spot for arrest and disposal.
then they pulled a fast one by substituting some common crim unrecognizable after beatings to be crucified.
And voila JC miraculously able to reappear after 3 days underground.

the earliest CoIntelPro. WHO KNEW?

ConcernedCanuck @ 78:

MsJoanne @ 77:

ConcernedCanuck @ 73:

MsJoanne @ 71:

Apparently neither did the Hillary supporters that have used and continue to use his record to show their support of her. She ain't Bill. She cannot lay claim to anything Bill has done. What she can lay claim to, is fewer experiences than Obama, and claiming more. Oh and that Iraq vote thing that her supporters deny.

In my eyes, Kyl-Lieberman is by far worse than AUMF. AUMF was bad enough. K-L is an abomination. That would be like saying any country could call our Army, Navy, AF or Marines terrorists and just go blow them up.

It’s way beyond a slippery slope. It’s the aftermath of a mudslide.

The problem is, she's shown her colours and they are Republican. Her supporters look at her, and see and hear nothing. They see Bill and remember those "good ol' days" of fake profits, non-paper trail business booms, and the beginnings of all those trade deals. They don't see negatives. They see nothing.

this from an obama bot!

tyree @ 83:

ConcernedCanuck @ 78:

MsJoanne @ 77:

ConcernedCanuck @ 73:

In my eyes, Kyl-Lieberman is by far worse than AUMF. AUMF was bad enough. K-L is an abomination. That would be like saying any country could call our Army, Navy, AF or Marines terrorists and just go blow them up.

It’s way beyond a slippery slope. It’s the aftermath of a mudslide.

The problem is, she's shown her colours and they are Republican. Her supporters look at her, and see and hear nothing. They see Bill and remember those "good ol' days" of fake profits, non-paper trail business booms, and the beginnings of all those trade deals. They don't see negatives. They see nothing.

this from an obama bot!

so no one can tell any truth about Hillary, eh?

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