This Week--Sen. Lindsey Graham Says It's All About Taxes and Pork
The Republicans have raised getting voters to vote against their interest into an art form. However, the American public has seen how well that has worked and public opinion polls show that by and large, we're not buying it any longer. It leaves precious little for someone like Republican presumptive nominee John McCain to run on. He can't run on a continuation of the policies by arguably the least popular President in history, but he can't go too afar from the Republican principles that his base requires. It's a tightrope that all of his proxies have struggled with, but none so much as Lindsey Graham. When asked point blank how McCain will differentiate himself from Bush's economic policies, he has no answer other than to deride Barack Obama.
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The great bugaboo of higher taxes under Obama gets raised by Graham, but is neatly deflected by Kerry pointing out that those who really need the tax breaks -- the working class -- will get them and if McSame is so worried about hurting the economy, why has he not supported, much less championed, policies that would truly get him away from Bush's cronyism and help keep jobs in America?
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STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me begin with the economy, because that is going to be the number one issue, both sides agree, in this campaign.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I want to show something that Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Senator McCain's top economic adviser said just the other day about President Bush.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DOUGLAS HOLTZ-EAKIN, SENATOR MCCAIN'S ECONOMIC ADVISER: The only thing that he shares in common with President Bush is the understanding of good tax policy. Sadly, it seems that's all President Bush understood of the economy.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: That was one of the toughest shots by a McCain official yet against President Bush and his economic policy. So, setting aside climate change, which we've heard about, how will
Senator McCain be different from President Bush on the economy, in a way that makes a difference?
GRAHAM: Well, I think the main thing is he's going to be different than Senator Obama, because those are your two choices. I mean, this is not the Wharton Business School against the London School of Economics. You've got a liberal in Senator Obama, who will repeal the Bush tax cuts that expire in 2011. The capital gains rates will go up. Dividend tax reductions will go down. The marginal rates will all go up. John will say keep the tax rates in place. He will be talking about energy independence. One way to help our economy is stop sending $450 billion overseas, with oil prices this high. Look for oil and gas in our backyard; find alternative energies to get away from fossil fuel consumption. And at the end of the day, stop spending. There's been nobody -- President Bush's biggest failure is not vetoing pork barrel spending. That is one of the big disappointments of President Bush. One of the big differences between Senator Obama, President Bush and anybody else in Washington is that John McCain is going to bring a sense of fiscal discipline and energy to controlling spending you haven't seen in a while.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator Kerry, you've heard it right there, it's taxes and spending.
KERRY: Well, if the wish were the father to the fact, Lindsey Graham would be a happy person right now, but that's all he's offered, is a wish. The fact is that John McCain voted 95 percent of the time with George Bush last year, and 90 percent of the time with George Bush over the entire presidency. That's not a change. That's not reform. That's not a difference. And on the economy, it's profound for the American worker and people who are struggling today. Barack Obama wants to give every worker $1,000 reduction in their taxes. So he's going to give a tax cut to the middle class and for people struggling to get into it. For people earning $50,000 or less, who are retired, he's going to do no taxes for them, and he's going to pay for all of this and be fiscally responsible by not continuing the irresponsible Bush tax cuts that this nation at the high level cannot afford, George.
And if you look at, I mean, you know, John McCain said himself that he doesn't know anything about the economy. He said he's going to have to have a vice president who knows something about the economy in order to help him on it. And if you look at almost every issue --health care. John McCain doesn't have a policy to be able to try to reform health care and reduce costs. That is a business issue, because businesses are drowning under the weight of health care costs. And you have to have a comprehensive reform. Barack Obama has one; John McCain doesn't. I can go down a long list.
this is outragious
Just look at the stupid grin on Graham's face. I think he thinks if he smiles enough, we'll buy it.
graham is very happy
G-reedy
O-ld
P-erverts
Just think if Kerry would have won! Jesus, this nightmare would have ended 3 friggin years ago!
baby jesus heard someone call.
baby jesus @ 6:
baby jesus @ 6:
keep away from the man with the raincoat and dark glasses offering candy!
P.D. @ 5:
If only Al Gore had been made President, there would have been no nightmare.
Graham either isn't paying attention or is wilfully lying. Sounds like only one option, really.
Lindsey Graham is starting to look like my Grandmother...may she rest in peace.
Poor Lindsey looked like that turd was just stuck in his craw and he couldn't get it down.
Poor Lindseys term is up in November just like bush and Lindsey, lots of northerners have moved into your state, so have your bags packed.
Poor Lindsey is known as the closet queen of SC ((he would be more accepted if he come out , but his southern brethren wouldn't like him))
McCain will change things soon, right after he loses it and starts going ballistic with his famous temper. He should do that in front of that giant green screen he uses, it will be november and Red and Green will fit right in.
BaddogLtd @ 10:
If she WAS resting she prolly rolled over on that comment.
I loved Kerry's comment about McCain voting with Bush 90% of the time. Cementing the notion that McCain is McSame.
Tax and spend, and or taxes and pork.
The shell game. I like Obamas ideas about this topic so far.
baby jesus @ 6:
Baby Jesus Is BACK!!!
Where the hell have you been young man? And don't give us that "Doing the work of my Father" flannel...That might have worked once...
Graham admitted McSame is more of the same later in the same show.
Otay @ 13:
When McCain has voted at all, yes. The past couple years he hasn't voted on much of anything. It seems he's going to take just as many, or more, vacation days as Bush has.
obama needs to frame his funding program not as "rasing taxes" but "reclaiming assets"
like so;
contrary to republican marketing, they do not lower taxes, reagan was the largest tax raising president in the history of peacetime administrations, yet the republicans have marketed the few he reduced taxes for and ignore the many he raised taxes to
we do not plan on raising taxes, we plan on re-aquiring the assets which were missapropriated from the middle class in a failed economic strategy that did nothing but reduce our infrastructure to rubbish"
something along those lines is going to be much better then "raising taxes on the wealthy", because he is not, he is "reclaiming assets which were taken from the middle class"
much better
BigD145 @ 17:
Further proof that McCain is continuing in the fine Bush tradition. As far as economics is concerned, he has also shown a sterling Bush characteristic: "I don't know anything...what me worry?".
The truth shall set you free. LOL
Sen Graham: McCain’s Policies Would “Absolutely” Be An Extension Of Bush’s.
Where was that John Kerry when we needed him four years ago?! He shouldn't just be endorsing Obama, but also apologize for enabling Shrub's second term.
me to me @ 18:
These are the types of talking points that will prove devastating to McShrub in the debates, and even more so in any "town hall meeting." Barack has the facts on his side and knows how to frame them to make McShrub look like the out-of-touch fool that he is.
McShrub has nothing to run on but a wing and a prayer and we know how that's worked out for him in the....oops, never mind.
No need to discuss the US economy any further than to say that we are spending $2-3 bib-B billion each week in Iraq. And that's all borrowed, off the budget money adding to Bush's debt and legacy of failing the American people.
There are days I wonder whether people like Lindsey Graham even exist. After all, IQs cannot run below zero. Maybe if we all think hard enough, Graham will disappear.
Whaaa? First of all, the question concerned the ways in which Gone InSane would be different from President Bush. So, not only does Graham not answer the question asked, he offers one of the most spectacularly stupid responses in the history of politics. Since Obama and InSane are the two choices, they'll be different from each other.
I certainly won't quibble with his admitted lack of credentials to be discussing these matters, on substantive matters, wow!
The question was, how will InSane be different from Bush. Graham's answer: He will keep all of Bush's economic policies in place.
In the race for world's dumbest answer, Graham has managed to lap himself.
As in, we need to end disastrous foreign wars that stretch our military so thin it can't protect us here?
Oh. Does Graham not realize that despite the adverse impact on the environment -- one of the quintessential sub-issues of energy independence -- that the oil we dig up in our own back yard isn't just ours? Most of our oil comes from Canada anyway. It all goes into a big world pool. It's not like we just get to keep it for ourselves, and lower our own gas prices.
Ha ha ha ha!!!! Republicans? Stop spending? Only when you take away their credit cards! Oh....wait.....could this be where we should stop funding disastrous wars?
Oh. Yeah, that's Bush's biggest failure. We need to make a commercial about this one.: Republicans think Bush's biggest failure is not vetoing pork barrel spending. On the colossal list of failures [list them all], do you, dear voter, really think that's the biggest one?
Obama's response: They say this every four years? Why would you believe them this time?
Now Tequila, you can't fault Kerry for everything. Remember Bush and Chaney's 'There's a terrorist around every corner!' campaign. The American people were scared. But still, I could see through the bullsh*t.
me to me @ 18:
How about take back all the money (25% of the countries total wealth) the republican ELITES stole from the rest of us. Or your framing. Either one works for me! Just as long as they yell it from the rooftops, I really don't care.
woodguy @ 23:
He actually lost two Jets before he ever saw action:
From Wiki:John McCain's pre-combat duty began when he was commissioned an ensign, and started two and a half years of training as a naval aviator at Pensacola.[15] There he also earned a reputation as a party man.[5] Graduating from flight school in 1960,[16] he became a naval pilot of attack aircraft. McCain was then stationed in A-1 Skyraider squadrons[17] on the aircraft carriers USS Intrepid and USS Enterprise,[18] in the Caribbean Sea and in the Mediterranean Sea.[19] He survived two airplane crashes and a collision with power lines.[19]
I'm not trying to take away the facts of his duty time, just flying a couple of facts.
The Democrats are starting to sound much more confident. Wait until McCain starts talking, and the public actually starts listening. This could get extremely ugly.
Never trust a man named "Lindsey"...
serious question:
what of a family of 8 adults whose net worth is around $3 million - investments, assets, cash...
how much has dubya's tax cuts helped them?
and what effect will ending those cuts have?
curious sibling @ 31:
I suppose that would depend on how your portfolio is built.
Talk to your Tax accountant. Not a good question to ask here.
Too many varying opinions.
YES we have heard that a certain faux
taxestexan likes a good porking.ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 33:
A GOP family values xtain type that is.
lindsey graham is such as asswipe.
Besides being a utter fool, Graham's smile is the most plastic one I have ever seen. It looks like something a 1st grader would draw on someone. I also suspect him of being a sissy. Why people give this 'parrot' air time is beyond me.
Hey Nicole Belle,
A suggestion: when you write "He can’t run on a continuation of the policies by arguably the least popular President in history," it's okay to leave out the "arguably."
Bush IS the worst.
Tequila @ 21:
he's DLC and Skull&Bones. Let's see how this plays out. DiFi earlier today and now Kerry; this has me worried about what Obama's platform will be because the DLC is not trustworthy.
Graham looks terribly pale. Needs a touch of rouge I think.
Mascara also.
Restore the Constitution @ 37:
Splitting infinitives is the worst offense ever. Ever.
MacDaKnife @ 36:
He'd look great in a non-see through negligee.
Okay, I'm not a homophobe (sort of like saying I have black friends) anyway, Lindthey needs to [deleted, over the top Site Monitor]. so he doesn't say anymore stupid shit.
mudshark @ 32:
I do not know the answer, and will not speculate. However, with all of the tax breaks corporations have been getting, I read that Murdoch's vast corporate empire has not paid any taxes for the past 4 years! I am sure that he is not alone in this. If Murdoch paid the same as the rest of us, this would probably amount to several hundred million dollars for the government coffers.
mystic @ 40:
Splitting infinitives?
Otay @ 13:
Yes Otay, and per Bill Moyers yesterday:
Tell America what it needs to Know
From the mountaintops - tell it
From your web sites and laptops - tell it
From the workshops - tell it
From the campuses - tell it
PATRIOTS - Say it Loud and Clear
JOHN McCAIN THE MOST FLAWED PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN HISTORY by Roland C. Eyears
…as the legatee of Bush, what does baggage does McCain bear? Here are just a few bags: unrestrained spending, huge trade deficits, illegal wars of aggression, empire building beyond our capacity, abandonment of our fallen veterans, war crimes, the elimination of civil liberties with war as a pretext, the death of habeas corpus, favoring Israel over the U.S., the stock bubble, the real estate bubble, collapsing home values, permanent core job losses, true 10 percent inflation, debasement of the currency (They won’t even publish M3 numbers anymore.), torture of prisoners (On October 6, 2006, McCain voted to exempt the CIA from restrictions.), prisoner rendition, deconstruction of the Constitution, opening our borders to everybody and anybody, violations of separation of powers, corruption, and incredible incompetence…
Read the rest of it here: http://www.wcltam.com/news/special/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261
...and when you are done telling it, it won't hurt to send a few dollars to John Amato and also a few to PBS in support of Bill Moyers - we need them both!
MacDaKnife @ 43:
i am after varying opinions - that's why i asked.
but it seems to me that 3mil is not a sufficient amount to have much benefit.
say, if one sibling wanted to be bought out at 300k - would that tax be much different next year?
or in 2011? the sibling in charge, a repug, says "do it now - the dems will raise the taxes."
i'll check on this tomorrow. any information is appreciated.
What's wrong with raising taxes on those that can afford it? Bush cut taxes on everything the rich used to pay on. But I think the best thing to do would be to close the loopholes so that if they owe the taxes, they get breaks for this and breaks for that. AND MAKE THE OIL COMPANIES PAY UP FOR ALL THEY OWE.
Lindsey Graham = Big Old Girl
Nothing wrong with that per se, unless you're a Republican politician who supports pro-discrimination legislation.
Why is it that McSame, Graham, Kristol and Bush all have that sickening grin? It's painful to watch.
It's almost like a little kid that knows he is in trouble and tries to cover his fear with a smile.
The only trouble is, they can't quite pull it off.
It IS the economy, Stupid. AND the war. AND Bush fatigue.
So they are saying McCain is different from Bush by saying McCain is different from Obama. Terrific scintillating logic there, Lindsey!!
If McCain is going to choose a VP who knows something about the economy, does that mean Phil "I heart Enron schemes" Gramm?
I hope that everyone keeps pounding away on the fact that "Mr. Experience" had ample opportunity to make a difference but chose not to.
Oh I almost forgot. Lindsey Graham got his military experience stateside. zero combat while he readies the rest for deployment. gutless as well as shameless.
Lindsey Graham is a grinning robot , a lie machine , a low life right to the core ... genuine Republican .
The Republicans and even a few Democrats are shying away from the only economic solutions that might pull our country out of its economic nosedive.
Tax the wealthy at a higher, pre-Reagan rate. Close the oil futures speculators loophole. Penalize severely any of the wealthy who try to hide their wealth offshore.
At the same time, increase our government's assistance programs to the middle class and poor.
In other words, redistribute our nation's wealth, shifting as much as possible from the wealthiest to those in our society less wealthy.
This would boost our nation's economy by increasing the buying power of U.S. citizens across the board, something that has been severely compromised during the corrupt Bush/Cheney years as the wealthiest, most gluttonous among us have sought to concentrate and consolidate our nation's wealth in their greedy little hands...to the detriment of everyone else.
The "cap and trade" energy idea floated recently was a conservative idea that will do more harm to the poor and middle class, while hardly affecting the wealthy at all, making it somewhat similar to the gasohol corn subsidies which has had the adverse effect of driving up food prices, while hardly making a dent in gasoline prices.
And why do we keep getting these crazy economic ideas? Because our government is still controlled by the wealthy and their lobbyists, who care nothing for our country, nor for the poor and middle class Americans being hit so hard financially by the crazed, selfish policies of the wealthy and their lapdog lobbyists.
Personally, I believe the corruption unleashed on our nation by the Bush/Cheney administration, and all their corporate pals, will hit this summer with the force of a Category 10 hurricane on our economy...with the elections in November and the changing of the guard in Washington in January being anticlimactic.
Carol @ 49:
You left out Chris Matthews. His grin is kinda creepish too.
me to me Says: obama needs to frame his funding program not as “rasing taxes” but “reclaiming assets”
like so;
contrary to republican marketing, they do not lower taxes, reagan was the largest tax raising president in the history of peacetime administrations, yet the republicans have marketed the few he reduced taxes for and ignore the many he raised taxes to
we do not plan on raising taxes, we plan on re-aquiring the assets which were missapropriated from the middle class in a failed economic strategy that did nothing but reduce our infrastructure to rubbish”
something along those lines is going to be much better then “raising taxes on the wealthy”, because he is not, he is “reclaiming assets which were taken from the middle class”
much better
Well said! I've always thought that the dems dropped the ball when it came to explaining tax cuts. Your suggestion is particularly apt and I can only hope that someone from the Obama campaign is reading taking note.
Another boring, vapid, useless interview with insipid, jargon-spewing failed elites of the Amerikan aristocracy. Neither understands a citizen-based democracy.
One other thing... Congress was in the hands of Republicans from 1994 until 2006... just WHO was doing all that pork barrel spending? Anyone? Anyone? Buehler?
Wishful thinking GrahamCracker.
And it doesn't matter how often you repeat this lie -- you're not going to convince the American people ANYTHING is more important than Bush's useless, endless war or the fact that the middle class is in it's "final throes" . . . "if you will"
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cg @ 9:
Re-PIGlics don't do anything EXCEPT lie.
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Graham is a stupid dolt.
A Critical Challenge Facing Our Nation GAO-07-362SP, January 31, 2007”
http://www.gao.gov/fiscalstewardship.html
Fiscal Stewardship GAO-07-362SP
The federal government’s financial condition and fiscal outlook are worse than many may understand. Despite an increase in revenues in fiscal year 2006 of about $255 billion, the federal government reported that its costs exceeded its revenues by $450 billion (i.e., net operating cost) and that its cash outlays exceeded its cash receipts by $248 billion (i.e., unified budget deficit). Further, as of September 30, 2006, the U.S. government reported that it owed (i.e., liabilities) more than it owned (i.e., assets) by almost $9 trillion. In addition, the present value1 of the federal government’s major reported long-term “fiscal exposures”—liabilities (e.g., debt), contingencies (e.g., insurance), and social insurance and other commitments and promises (e.g., Social Security, Medicare)—rose from $20 trillion to about $50 trillion in the last 6 years.
The federal government faces large and growing structural deficits in the future due primarily to known demographic trends and rising health care costs. These structural deficits—which are virtually certain given the design of our current programs and policies—will mean escalating and ultimately unsustainable federal deficits and debt levels. Based on various measures—and using reasonable assumptions—the federal government’s current fiscal policy is unsustainable. Continuing on this imprudent and unsustainable path will gradually erode, if not suddenly damage, our economy, our standard of living, and ultimately our domestic tranquility and national security.
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 11:
Green room, Beet-red angry face and bright yellow teeth with vampyre smile. Sounds like the stuff of nightmares.
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BTW anyone remember what the top issue in the 2000 election was?
*hint*
The economy and our long term national debt, what did Bush do.
Excuse me I have go swear
That which does not kill you will make you stronger.
Jagoffs like Lindsey Grahm talk a great deal, but in reality they say nothing.
The soundbite strategy.
The phrazes and wordology they use has been tested and re-tested to get maximum reactions and rile people up with very few actual facts. (If any at all.)
Kudos to John Kerry for slapping down this treasonous whimpy little sellout.
Weve taken this crap from these so called 'conservatives' for years, this is not new.
These people and their bovine followers with stockholm syndrome.
Time to start standing up to these people wherever they appear.
Defeat in 08 is not an option.
The real issue is how deeply connected the republicans are with the lobbying industry. How deeply connected they are with the government spinoff industry. These bastards are turning a buck while dismantling the US government. I call TREASON.
If GORE or KERRY had owned a set of balls like Hillary, they would have been president.
I am an OBAMA fan, but let's thank Hillary Clinton for showing HOW TO FIGHT FOR THE OFFICE.
I know.... but you're wrong.... it is about time Democrats show some backbone at election time....GOBAMA!!!!
BaddogLtd @ 10:
Was that your Grandma's puffy face on the new purple three dollar bill?
When Bush 41 ran for re-election in 1992, he kept hammering away at the same mantra, "This election is about taxes and trust. Who (sic) do you trust?" The idea, see, was that Democrats are the tax-and-spend party, and can't be trusted not to raise taxes and spend money...so, re-elect me.
Bush 41 forgot that during his one term as president he broke a "read my lips" pledge not to raise taxes, thereby invalidating both parts of the "taxes and trust" campaign.
The G.O.P. hasn't learned, obviously. Now they have Lindsey Graham talking about taxes and pork...two issues where Republicans have no particular advantage anyway, because the tax structure favors a small percentage of very rich individuals and both parties have been distributing pork for years.
No, Lindsey...taxes and pork are about 99th and 100th on the priority list in this election, and your guy wouldn't win on them regardless. How about Iraq, the sinking economy, exploding oil prices, dishonesty in government, loss of world prestige, illegal spying on Americans, torture, trillion-dollar deficits, the weak dollar, potential indictments of government officials, crumbling infrastructure, global warming? Think maybe Americans might care more about that stuff at the moment?
Restore the Constitution @ 37:
Here, Here! I second the motion! All in favor say I!
The Democrats have to take this tax and spend out of the mouths of the neocons. Kerry had the perfect opportunity to do this yesterday but as he always does he blew it. Republicans have spent this country into the economic mess we are in right now. Just start with Ray Gun who increased the debt hugely and move on to Bush The Elder who doubled the debt and now Bush II who has doubled the debt again. Then these hypocrites blame the Democrats for trying to straighten out the economy. Clinton had a surplus going with a plan to pay off the debt until Chimpy got his paws on it. Yes it is the Republicans who spend spend spend and never have a way to pay for it. They sure know how to load their own pockets with cash, though.
The Dems have to get everybody up there saying this. Open the eyes of the people on the fence. Get Obama, dean, Biden out there. Biden is in front of the cameras all the time. People listen to him. The Republicans are the tax and spend party.
Restore the Constitution @ 37:
FIFY
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 68:
So say we all.
(Throw him out the airlock)
I’m astonished at the number of voters who fail to recognize McCain for what he really represents. Of course, many presidential candidates have taken positions on issues during a campaign in order to appeal to their supporters, that they do not keep once elected. The trouble here is that McCain has taken so many positions on the same issues that whatever he does should he be elected would be consistent with what he said at one time or another. Although McCain probably would revive some degree of bi-partisanship if elected, it would only represent superficial change. McCain is a committed conservative and war-hawk who would essentially continue Bush’s policies with regard to Iraq, taxes and the economy, the Bush assault on the Constitution and individual liberties, and the treatment and torture of prisoners. While the Administrative façade may take on a new look, behind the scenes the same old reprehensible GOP cronies will be pulling the strings. Anyone who believes this to represent change is clueless beyond words.
Word up y'all
Glaze your pork with Major Gray chutney
Not thumb tacks.
grahm is a good little republican nazi! he spouts talking points and smiles like he has said something good never mind the shit dripping off his chin.
Damn I hate republican liars!
Gwynplainne has a more natural smile than graham-crackers.
Has anyone noticed how Graham's smile has become more and more like Tom DeLay's? It must be an infectious liar's disease. To be fair, Kerry did not bring much to the table. Perhaps he's been too long in the bubble.
Why does Kerry always have such a mournful look on his face?
What's his campaign slogan in Massachusetts?
Vote for me or I'll kill myself?
"Linsee Graah-Yumm"; an Okie from Muskokee; thinks we all are CEO's in large CorporAYshuns......
Has Graham been using the same smiling coach who is teaching McCain how to look like a ghoul on crack?
Kerry-- First, try ending the USA empire military spending and then tax the filthy rich politicians-- It will work overnite--gets America out of looming massive poverty.By the way,why are most politicians multi-$millionairs after 1 1/2 terms?
The Man Who Laughs:
http://anyeventuality.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/themanwholaughs.png
Hey, Trolls, answer me this: If raising taxes on the wealthy is BAD, and all of us making less than 150 grand get rebate checks that the wealthy DON'T, how is that NOT raising taxes on the wealthy? As an aside, it is hillarious that each time a Bush fucks everything up, they send us a few hundys to make everything all right. It is the old "give the babysitter an extra fifty to keep her quiet" Bush mentality.
The Obama camp has to use this as a commercial.
"Why does Kerry always have such a mournful look on his face?
What’s his campaign slogan in Massachusetts?
Vote for me or I’ll kill myself?"
Hilarious! Lol.
YUP... there you have it... TAX AND SPEND! George doesn't get it right very often... but he did with THAT opener.
That's all the Republicans have on the Democrats this year... as they will NEVER admit, publically, that THEIR BOY, Bush, has trampled the constitution AND the economy AND the bill of rights WHILE THE REPUBLICANS held all the cards.
Who's gonna pay for this god-forsaken war?
Who's gonna make it right for our veterans?
Who's gonna fix this country's health care system?
Who's gonna fix our foreign policies?
Certainly NOT GrandPa McSame.
I forgot one more "who's gonna..."
Who's gonna pull the Supreme Court back from it's presently neo-con conservative construct?
There... that's important too.
Can someone please smack that s#!t eating grin off the face of that intellectual lightweight that is Mr. Graham?
PLEASE?
me to me @ 18:
I like the way you think.
it's not about taxes, even though we are broke. it's about illegal wars and a party that supports a regime that never met a law it didn't want to break. McSame is the same kind of shit. That is what needs to be stressed. We can hagle about taxes after we get our priorities back on track.
Carrot & Shtick @ 89:
How about we get william krystol to do it for us?
PORK IS GOOD.
If the people of a state or district are going to be taxed on their income, then it is the duty of Senators and Representatives to get some of that money back.
The old scare tactics that have served the rethugz so well, for what seemed like an eternity, are not going to cut it this time around, fellas. Or didn't Lindsey get the memo? The dependable themes of gays, god, guns, abortion and taxes has been drowned out by the clamor for change - real change. Only the most die-hard lemmings would ever fall for the mainstay GOP meme anymore. People who used to vote against themselves, on the basis of these wedge issues, are now faced with the reality of paying through their noses for a gallon of gas, and are equally slammed at the checkout counter at the supermarket - you can see their bewildered looks as they stare in disbelief at the prices of products on the shelf.
Suddenly, it is dawning on them that it doesn't matter anymore that Jeff and Bob are a couple or their neighbor doesn't believe in the Sky Man. It doesn't matter, and it shouldn't have in the first place! If any "good" has come out of the disaster is the Bush years, it is that people have been forced to think a little bit more critically about the things that are really important to them, their families and for the country. As the Otis Redding song says, "Change is gonna come".
I saw this as I passed thru the living room on the way to the washer. I'm glad my hands were full, otherwise I might have thrown somthing at the TV. Miz Graham makes me crazy.
ysbaddaden @ 91:
Ooh, ooh - I volunteer!
Stupid old queen. That's right, queen. It's all I think when I see Lindsey Graham, with his smug look. (we gays can say that kinda stuff.) He embarrasses me, as a gay man. What is it with these gay old republicans? How can any gay person be a republican???
Amazing conclusion and questions Edwin. Where do I begin?
This exchange was a new low for Stephanopenpop: pitting a dull, hoary wannabe like Kerry against a grinning halfwit closet case like Linsie Glam. I cannot stomach this program, because I keep seeing someone who abandoned the Clintons in their time of need, with a pun panel that includes the World's Number One Nitcompoop, George Will. I'd much rather watch Fox's Sunday show with the apostate son of that 60 Minutes guy.
I really try not to judge people by their looks or demeanor. However, am I the only one who notices that Mr. Graham gives off the most obvious closeted gay vibe ever?
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