Rep. Blackburn Blames Bill Clinton, ANWR For High Gas Prices
By Logan Murphy Monday Jun 09, 2008 12:40pm
We've covered some of GOP Rep. Marsha Blackburn's follies over the past couple of years, and she's given us plenty of chuckles. Blackburn is big on Republican talking points, light on facts, and guaranteed to make you want to throw your teevee out the window -- so I was happy to see her speaking on behalf of John McCain's campaign this afternoon.
During MSNBC's coverage of Barack Obama's economic speech today in North Carolina, Nora O'Donnell spoke with Blackburn about Obama's criticism of the disastrous Bush/McCain policies and on the topic of high gas prices, Marsha did what any good Republican would do -- Blame Bill Clinton:
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"...People are concerned about the economy and they're concerned about gas prices, and in '95 it was President Clinton who vetoed drilling in Anwar. If he had not done that, we would be seeing more gas in the pipeline right now. So this is an issue I think that's tailor made for John McCain."
Oy. Where to begin? The ANWR myth has been debunked, but Marsha wasn't about to let those pesky facts get in the way. Besides, it's much better to blame Bill Clinton than take responsibility for your own party's failures, right?
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The first law in the GOP rule book:
WWLD
What Would Limbaugh Do?
Ughh....
Yeh, high gas prices has nothing to the wars raging in the middle east and the threats to hit Iran, ... to be fair, clinton is to blame partly for the Iraq war, the piece of filth supported it.
some of the repugs are even blaming clinton for the war & the terrible economy too--LOL
The Second Law in the GOP playbook: Whatever the problem, blame it on Bill Clinton.
It's abundantly clear why the GOP salivated at the thought of a Hillary candidacy: two targets for the price of one.
I have an idea. Let's drill fat republicans for oil. All that blubber must contain enough oil to do something with.
Can she work a Jimmy Carter mention in there somewhere?
Cooz from slave state has excess gas in her pipeline.
Marsha- Marsha-Marsha. The republicans had control of the House and Senate and did nothing about drilling in ANWAR.
They were too busy chasing pages and making bank deposits to do anything else.
Who voted for this broad? Why are Americans so stupid? $4 gas is Clinton's fault? I hope she loses re-election. But then again, my faith in humanity is severly stressed. After all, Bush won again in 2004, and we have been paying the price ever since.
The only place that drilling in the Wildlife Refuge would help is Alaska. It would inject jobs and tax revenue into the state but would have NO impact on the price of gas.
Another right wing bobble head with her "liberal elite" catch phrase.
OT: why is there a McCain ad on the front page of C&L?
Back on topic: This is one of the reasons that Hilary might have been a bad idea. They're already used to blaming her family for 9/11, gas prices/ erectile dysfunction. They still can't even decide if Barack is a secret Muslim or a member of radical leftist Christianity
It was Lincoln who vetoed research funding towards animosity-powered vehicles. It's his fault!
Worst thing is the two Democrats running against her are jokes.
LMAO!!! Nice try, babe. I remember when libruls were the moonbats. Please tell me she's up for re-election.
Remember when she was bitching to David Shuster about the 'General Betrayus' bullsh*t? Then Shuster asked her if she knew the name of the latest causality of the Iraq war who lived in her district, and she couldn't answer? Marsha, you are not qualified to run an Ice Cream shop let alone the House or Senate.
I'm falling behind on my housework. I blame Bill Clinton....
It's sad she's given a platform to open her lying mouth! When will this Nation get tired of the Blame Game?
Mick Fowler @ 18:
I'm black because of Bill Clinton. *shakes fist at Bill Clinton*
We could have had another bit of GOP filth in the WH from '02-2000 and these clowns would reach back to blaim Carter. If Carter was never born? LBJ, the JFK, and on down the line. Bloody crybaby morons...
Blaming Clinton for everything is not only seriously lame, it's starting to positively reek of desperation -- and when you dig bemeath the surface, it's nowhere nearly as complimentary to Bush, or for that matter to the American voters, as his supporters seem to think it is. I mean, c'mon...let's get real. Clinton has been out of office now for seven-plus years -- so if everything were Clinton's fault, that inevitably implies that Bush has been so passive and ineffectual and incompetent as President that he's been powerless to reverse the damage allegedly caused by Clinton despite the fact that the Republican Party also controlled both houses in both the 108th and 109th Congress! That's certainly not the portrait that they've consistently tried to paint of Bush over the last seven-odd years, nor do I think that they want the American people to perceive him that way -- especially since it begs the question of why the American people would have re-elected someone like that. Unfortunately, at least in my experience, far too many Americans have no talent or appreciation for either subtext or subtlety...
Pardon me:
*blame
Oh...the republicans in the Senate just voted down a windfall profits tax on the oil companies.
Blame Clinton on that one, too?
These people have no shame. There isn't enough oil in ANWR to make a dfference other than to put money in the repugs pockets. They're all looking at peak oil to make sure they have their pockets lined. Maybe the dollar is worth something in hell when they get there :)
This is why people think blonds are dumb.
"If he had not done that, we would be seeing more gas in the pipeline right now."
Correction, there would be more crude oil stacking up because there remains a limited refining capacity in the United States available to handle that increased load. The Republicans make it seem that all one needs to do is simply drill in ANWR or other places and it will come out of the ground as refined gasoline or some other product. It doesn't work that way. Crude oil, as I understand it, is a nasty substance that, depending on its grade can take some time to refine. If the Republicans actually looked at the trade data they would find that the United States is importing more refined gasoline products year over year while demand for those same gasoline products increases globally at even higher rates.
Bill Clinton...? Whos the hell is Bi...OH, that guy!
That's ancient history. Imagine, a child born when Clinton took office
is just about ready to graduate high school, and some probably have.
At this stage of the game, a Bush supporter is a psychopath.
andy @ 3:
to be fair, andy? I guess the pills aren't working, [Deleted-Sitemonitor].
...also, the VERY IDEA that ANWAR will lower gas prices is just
the BIG OKEY-DOKE.
Do you think the Repugs want to lose? After rejecting the the bill to stop windfall profits for Oil Co's, they honestly believe Americans will embrace them? Who knows. Many people don't even read the newspaper and watch Faux News. Sigh!
This manufactured "crisis" is nothing more than for us Plebs to beg for drilling in these areas so the oil companies can sell US-drilled oil on the open market at these larger than ever prices making them even more money.
That is the plan launched in Darth Cheney's Energy Pow-wow years ago.
They know now the US can support such higher prices and they'll continue until we revolt by shutting the US economy down or some other dissent.
This last primary even the democrats used Bill as an excuse to defeat Hillary. His name works on so many levels. He really and truly is the most despicable person on the planet. God I hate him.
Joe O. @ 27:
Hell, if you listened to bush yesterday morning, he seemed to think the same thing. He said if we began drilling in ANWR it would take the pressure off the gas prices we have now. He must think that when the first drill bit hits the earth there an Exxon station will spring up and the price of gas will be two bucks a gallon.
If they had drilled in ANWR during Clinton's first term, the wells there would probably be dry by now.
P.D. @ 31:
Maybe? Maybe? It pains me that we both know what both instances are true. It's the only way the GOP has remained successful: disinformation and lack of solid information. Well, that and the average person's penchant for gullibility, I suppose.
pissed off patricia @ 34:
Agreed, and we would be worse off environmentally and economically more than we are now.
"If he had not done that, we would be seeing more gas in the pipeline right now"
I wonder if she thinks it just comes out as unleaded. Pick your octane and then drill for that gasoline.
Loonie @ 26:
Hey, I wonder what would happen if we got her attention to a scratch-and-sniff at the bottom of the pool. xD
clinton can, rightfully, be blamed for a lot of our current ills. but high gas prices?
and the meme that, somehow, drilling in anwr is going to save our souls is not factual nor scientific. it is, yes another, GOP attempt to give the oil industry a slow handjob.
blackburn, how much was a barrel of oil before we lied our way into iraq? and how much is it now?
Bud @ 33:
Worse than Bush? Worse than Cheney? Worse than...oh never mind.
taller ghost walt @ 32:
I think they are going to let the price rise until the general public screams "uncle", and supports them drilling in ANWR, off our coasts and anywhere else they think they might find a drop of oil. They will say to hell with the environment, just drill and find more oil.
John McCain has the best and most innovative ways to tackle this problem.. they are so innovative because they are innovative... the best craves innovation...and McCain is innovation!
What did you expect from a Republi[deleted] like Marsha Blackburn?
Joe O. @ 36:
Agree!
Put a hard hat on Marsha and airlift her onto an oil platform somewhere in the North Sea. She can do her part for the energy crisis.
The GOP talking point here is technically accurate, just unbelievably deceptive. Note that Blackburn says only that "we would be seeing more oil in the pipeline," but NOT that it would be significant enough to have any effect on the price of oil/gas. The GOP talking point here is to deliver a total non sequitor that implies prices would be lower (without actually saying so) and hope no one notices.
Note to Democrats: CALL THE GOP OUT ON THIS, i.e. "It's very interesting to look at what Blackburn says and doesn't say. What she says is that there would be somewhat more oil in the pipeline. What she DOESN'T say is that this would have any real impact on oil prices because she knows as well as I do that it isn't true."
rduke @ 42:
Don't forget maverick!
Idiots! Blame Bill Clinton and holler Tax cuts! GOP's message to get votes!
What do you know? A genuine re-PIG-lic party hack.
I think they "wind them up" with a key and send them out to spout their nonsense every day. God knows they are incapable of logic or critical thinking, or even any form of independent thought. The whole idea that conservatism is a mental illness is only and forever reinforced by party loyalists like her.
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If she loses her seat in the house, I bet Fox news would hire her in a minute. She sure looks and sounds like a good fit for them. She just says sh*t and it really doesn't matter if it's true or not.
FACTS AND KOOL-AIDE never mix. Isn't everyone glad that Tennessee elected her so they can stay in the 18th century another century!!
BTW: When did the Tenn. KKK start letting wimmin speak for them???
It's funny how Republicans keep trying to pretend they have any credibility left.
Doesn't this dimwit Congresscritter understand that, in order for the GOP to win the election, they have to at least fake like they're interested in national unity? Doesn't she understand that her ideology is widely viewed as corrupted to the point of bankruptcy?
I guess the koolaid is just toooooo delicious.
The sad thing is that when it all goes to shit, she'll still be blaming anybody but herself and her political betters that got us in to this mess.
As soon as Republicans started harping that we needed to wean ourselves off "foreign oil" you could see what was coming. They have no desire or intent on weaning our country off oil in general. This is just bush and cheney's farewell gift to the oil companies. Here, here's the US. Drill to your heart's content.
Amazing! The Republican party had six, count them, SIX YEARS of control of all three branches of the ENTIRE federal government. And all that they can come up with is "Bill Clinton?!" What the holy hell were they doing for SIX YEARS? I would think that such a bunch of super duper smart Republicans would have been able to fix at least SOME of Bill Clinton's mistakes. But NO! Apparently they are so incompetent that even after SIX YEARS of control of all three branches of our federal government, they were completely unable to correct any of the multitude of mistakes of Clinton.
F*cking AMAZING!
Progressive Libertarian @ 46:
Another point that she does not bring up is the fact that even if the U.S. were to get started today in ANWR it would take some time to get the place operational, crews in place, pipelines and shipping lanes organized along with a whole host of other logistical nightmares. Protracted out, I've heard estimates that the crude oil probably wouldn't be on line for at least a couple of years. Blackburn makes it sound like all we have to do is stick a shovel in the dirt there and the crude will just come running out.
check it out i don't hear anwr mentioned
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=842
Wordsalad. That's all. She never answered the questions, she simply spewed out empty, meaningless talking points.
2 words: peak oil
The GOP mantra on ANWAR, Iraq, the "War on Terror"?
Lie and repeat.
Can we just start making stuff up about the Republicans, please?
The straight out facts don't seem to be working. We have to connect them somehow with Zombie Martians from Venus or something before anyone will pay attention to the rape they have and are commiting of our country and Constitution. Maybe we can convince people they are plotting to take over all avenues of factual political discourse in this country and subvert them for their own selfish ends.
Nevermind, they have already done that.
I will have to think of something...
Joe O. @ 55:
Well, all you have to do is look to the teevee. Remember The Beverly Hillbillies? See....it's all true!
Man, we'd be singing the song, diggin' for dat oil, smilin' at the new prosperity, making lil' crude oil an' mud stachoos shaped like King George. Bliss!
Samson- @ 58:
And then there's that.
That vote in Congress this morning was a fu*king shame, but it was a gift for Senator Obama's campaign. It was also a gut hit for the McCain campaign.
Senator Obama can point out that the repubs in congress are more concerned for the profits of the big oil companies than they are for the American worker who is feeling the pain at the pump every day.
Senator McCain can say that he likes pudding and jello. Oh, and he can say "my friends a few times, laugh that eerie laugh and say the extreme environmentalist are standing in the way of something, but he can't remember what it is right now.
this is asinine and under-researched. i lived in alaska for 7 years and actually was required to take a class on the state to graduate. even IF more drilling had been started in ANWR, the physics of drilling would make it impossible to extract enough oil to prevent the gas price-hike. secondly, even if we COULD extract that much oil at once, there isn't enough oil in ANWR to last us more than a few short years. and finally, even if we could extract all of that oil fast enough and even if there were enough to make it relevant to our current gas problem, the pipeline which carries the oil from the northern part of the state to valdez was found out to be significantly damaged about 1.5-2 years ago so we wouldn't be able to transport the oil anyway! and all of these facts are evident in the increasingly smaller permanent fund dividends which are given out to alaskan residents each year. i know the GOP is desperate to skirt blame onto someone else, but come on, at least make a challenging case. this is so baseless and obviously not understood that it's shameful.
people are united against the bush republican policies, regardless of party
november --> local, state and national
keep saying it loud and clear...
bush corrupt corporate cronys still trying to get rich... at expense of people.
...Bush Senate Republicans today blocked again.
Get MCain on camera with his wife.. and have a real national security debate..
were glad kucinich also included the "2001 secret energy meeting" in the 35 articles..
In 2002... the top ten oil companies took in a nice $31 billion in profits.
...then... Bush: “Bring’m on!” There goes the world’s second largest source of oil.
Crude doubled in two years to $40 a barrel and those same oil companies saw their profits triple to $87 billion.
...now....$134 a barrel
Say it loud and clear...
Bush admin and R has been and continues to be a threat to the national security of the united states of america.
How can the repigs blame Clinton for anything? They controlled the house and senate the first SIX years of the Bush white house! If they really wanted to they could have passed anything, they did pass all those tax cuts for the rich piggies!
It's not supply and demand kids... which makes the ANWR argument further idiotic... it's Enron style bullshit commodity traders hoarding supply just long enough to gain even more in the currency market (a-holes betting against the Dollar, depressing it further.) None of this is based on supply or drilling... these are traders artificially spiking the per barrel cost up.
Energy traders gamed California, now they are trying to game the world. May every death from starvation or food rioting be on these pigs heads. A just dessert would be to drop them into a region raped by their practices with no access to their funds and allow them to see what they have wrought.
Lusmu @ 57:
Nothing new here. This is the Republican fall back position.
I'm getting really tired of the Republicans flat out lying about high gas prices and ANWR. The sad thing is that there are loads of nitwits who actually believe that horse manure.
I hate to say it, but I'm glad gas is high. Maybe all these Hummer driving A-holes will finally do something good for the environment and get a more fuel-efficient car.
Yes that's right! Bill Clinton is responsible for allowing gas to get up to $1.27 a gallon. If only he'd sit down and talk to our foriegn suppliers and support free markets instead of talking tough about making war on them! wait a second......... it's NOT 1997 anymore is it?
Blackburn besides living in a bubble is pretty much a nut case.
neocon wannbe's..when all fails just blame it on clinton nevermind who the majority was in the house or senate
Paul's Bunions @ 66:
What do you mean how can they blame him for anything? They have a simple direct formula:
---> Don't say a thing.
---> Take credit.
---> It's Clinton's fault.
---> Invade something.
Someday i will read up on how the codes work on here. :)
People liek Rep. Blackburn keep repeating these lies because the mouth-breathers who don't keep up with the news tend to believe what they say. The ANWR-saving-the-U.S. myth has been debunked and yet she repeats it. And maybe she should tell her boy-king and Israel to stop threatening Iran, since Israel's most recent threat was partly responsible for the hike in crude oil prices yesterday.
Paul's Bunions @ 66:
well, being the guy non one likes to hear from, clinton can be blamed for a lot.
the problem is that the GOP has used him as an excuse for nearly everything. and blaming the energy crisis, gas prices, and other such issues on clinton is not only dishonest, it is infuriating.
clinton is not the villain the GOP makes him out to be, but he is also not the saviour some dems claim either.
None of these despicable people with (R) after their names have even one honest bone in their screwed up bodies. They lie with every bit of energy they have.
Here is another point to use against Blackburn. Lets say, hypothetically that ANWR is tapped, online and operational along with the many other finds right now. That crude oil would be on the market and may bring the prices of crude oil and everything associated with it down for a short period time while demand continues to increase globally. If those crude oil finds run dry what then? The United States will have destroyed its natural resources while depleting its last strategic crude oil deposits at the same time. This will leave the United States completely and totally at the mercy of foreign dictators or other powers that hold that remaining oil. The Republican ANWR argument has never made any sense economically, environmentally or strategically.
Samson- @ 75:
I agree that Clinton can be blamed for some things that are wrong today, specifically today's state of media consolidation when he signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996. But neocons take it too far and it makes them look silly when they say they are the party of personal responsibility and, a second later, they blame Democrats for issues that built up during the Repug's rein from 1994-2006.
Joe O. @ 77:
John, you're thinking long-term. Blackburn and her ilk are only worried about the short-term, because they can score political points that way.
The Smiths @ 65:
TheSmiths can be counted on to have something of merit to say. Read this comment as I was wondering what is in this stooge's stock portfolio...........I'd love to see a full disclosure, wouldn't you?
Nice to hear from you again, TheSmiths!
Frybread @ 79:
Sorry, I meant to say "Joe O."
Let's see, the average price of gas between 1993 and 2000 was $1.47. From 2001 - present gas has averaged 2.60. In 1995, the national average was $1.21, in 2000 the average was $1.72. In 2001, the national average was $1.63, now the national average is $4.00 - from 2003 gas quickly went above $2.00 gal and never came back down. Hmmm, wonder if the little bit that is in ANWAR could help - it will only be sold to China if they drill.
Yep, big oil got themselves a great president and CEO.
the weak dollar is probably the number one issue
number two inflation
number three supply/demand
number speculation.....banks/financial inst. trying to recoupe losses from subprime/credit fiasco
but the weak dollar big problem for most foreign investors love it great exchange so they buy crude oil is pegged to u.s. dollar
It's really sad that a large segment of the public is buying her bullsh*t.
johnnypunchclock @ 69:
2007 Vespa GTS, 60-70mpg.
Passenger car gets driven maybe once a month, other than moving it so that it doesn't get ticketed on street-cleaning days.
So yes. I am totally on board with high gas prices finally shaking something loose in people's feeble brains. Those Hummers, Landrovers, etc are obscenities.
What do you expect of this robot? Just yesterday Busholini himself was extolling the "virtues" of drilling in ANWR like that would provide immediate relief.
neverbeenfooled @ 84:
a few key words were used for simpletons: Clinton did it....don't have to know the issue or think just say clinton did it for those who still have old playbook
Marsha can't even keep track of her own campaign finances--she is a sorry excuse for a legislator all mouth no brains!
These Republicans are frickin crazy!!! When will they be declared legally insaned and institutionalized?
Frybread @ 79:
Short-term solutions, the Republican way. It's all about duct tape.
Not in any way true ..............
I would prefer throwing Blackturd out a window
We need to consider that this is not supply and demand but an issue like what Enron did to CA a few years ago. Oil is being traded, unregulated, on the comodities markets and being sold to the pump at the highest bid. Once they couldn't screw us on mortgages any longer, they had to find a different way to steal. It is the fault of the instituional investors investing in the commodities markets. Demand has gone down and prices are going up!
karl @ 87:
Besides Clinton, others keywords that rile the neocon-knuckedraggers are San Francisco, universal healthcare, affirmitive action, multiculturalism, gay rights, and atheism/agnosticism.
Hey bitch, it doesn't matter how much you take out of a non-existent paycheck.
StirFry Alabaster Forbes III @ 90:
Yep. Then when the longterm consequences come up and bite us, the neocons blame the Dems.
Frybread @ 93:
oh you must a copy of the playbook.........you don't have to think much which is perfect for black-n-white thinkers......it's sick to them it means were soft and want to help everyone they don't get it why there haters
GOP: We keep trying the same thing over and over again only this time we'll get different results.
montana the next frontier
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05292008/busine
A half-day's supply for this country's fuel consumption would have lasted for 13 years , eh Blackturd ?
Tennessee residents must be awfully proud of this intellectual giant.........
raincntry @ 11:
Au contraire, mon ami. It would reduce prices at the pump by a PENNY!
MCMetal @ 99:
your correct he did veto but why? i don't recall......
karl @ 96:
I forgot to add "appeasement" to that list of keywords. I bet many Repugs don't even know what that word means, LOL!
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20011
interesting crude read
Don't sweat it, Bush is on top of this 'oil thing'.
I've been talking to Vicente Fox, the new president of Mexico... I know him... to have gas and oil sent to U.S.... so we'll not depend on foreign oil.
George Bush, first Presidential debate, Oct. 3, 2000
If Bubba approved the drilling the oil would be coming on line now.
But it would be sold on the WORLD market, not the American, and would make nary a ripple in supply levels, and be gone by now.
Even if theoretically there are safe ways of drilling for oil
The companies would ask and probably receive permission from the courts to use unsafe methods to maximize profits.
If our legislature's said no, they'd be accused of being against the free market.
So if a natural disaster results, the offenders would say, "You said it's okay, so this is your fault."
And it's not the kind of drilling Bubba prefers.
According to the U.S. Geological Survey, there is a 95-percent probability that ANWR contains a TOTAL of 3.4 billion barrels of economically recoverable oil. Since the U.S. consumes about 20 billion barrels of oil per day, 3.4 billion barrels would not affect prices at the pump by much since you could not pump very much per day so you could stretch out the supply.
We can thank the 'if it feels good then do it' mentality of people who are still mired in the 1960s/1970s concept of liberalism for the current oil crisis. It's hilarious to listen to these fools blaming it on Reagan taking the solar panels off the White House, when so many of them gladly and voluntarily jumped on the SUV bandwagon while oil was cheap. Oh, but that's somebody else's fault, too, because CAFE standards were too lax.
Blame Bush. Blame Clinton. Blame Democrats. Blame Republicans. Blame, blame, blame. Easy to do when there is no real leadership in government anymore.
Thankfully we have a unique opportunity in Barack Obama to rekindle the spirit of American progress. People are uniting for something, for a change. He is speaking wisdom on every issue, and not shirking from delicate and controversial subjects. Obama is doing a fine job of getting the truth out to the American people. It sure would be nice if the obsessed Bush haters would pipe down long enough to listen to what Obama has to say, and maybe even realize their deluded rantings and childish insults could dissuade moderate conservatives from crossing over to vote for him.
I wear the "elitist" label very proudly. That's right redneck America. I graduated from college....I read books...I enjoy international travel...I know what (gasp!) arugula is.
Crawl back under your rock, white trash.
rethugs remind me of those dolls that when you pull the string they say some catchy phrase in the case of the rethugs we're back to the start of the tape and blame everything on clinton.
wonder how one becomes a rethug do you go to a special place and have 99% of your brains sucked out of your head ?
Drilling in Alaska will help those in Alaska who will do the drilling and the political power players there- how much does a person get paid for living in the state anyway??
And finally the two democrats that are running against her are jokes well look who we have in the white house of course he's a very bad joke and we're all paying for the punchline
Why dont you put down her state? Why wouldnt you? Did you ever think giving that little bit of information might be too much work, or would you rather I did it? Cant imagine it takes too much character space. Dont just pin GOP on her lapel and leave it at that.
Think about it, it would embarrass the state she represents, and might drive a few people to the polls as well. I mean really....
Frybread @ 106:
Crap. The U.S. consumes 20 MILLION -- no billion -- barrels of oil per day. Despite the much lower figure, 3.4 billion barrels of oil still would not last long. The U.S.G.S. figures that if 3.4 billion barrels of ANWR oil was used to cover just 5 percent of our needs, it would last only about 10 years and would hardly affect prices.
karl @ 101:
He rightfully claimed it would take at least a decade to ever see any of that oil ; and there simply is not that big a supply there.
It would make absolutely no dent in the price of oil on any level ; that is what the idiots in the GOP and their imbecilic backers simply do not understand.
The price of oil IS NOT set by SUPPLY AND DEMAND ; it is set by OPEC/THE OIL SHEIKS.
Peoples Front of Judea @ 54:
The R's had control of Congress for 6 years under Clinton and 6 years under Bush, but the blame belongs to Clinton until... The Dems take control in January 2007, and are clearly responsible for the dire straights in which we find ourselves having been in power a whole 18 months.
Frybread @ 111:
And if we were to use the 3.4 billion barrels of ANWR oil to meet 100 percent of our needs, the find would last only 170 days.
Biggest consumer of petroleum in the world?
The US military.
Heckuva job, douchebag Republicans.
This morning the Republicans in the Senate blocked cloture on a bill to tax enormous profits (over some 25 billion dollars) on oil companies, and to fund alternative energy. Note: the bill taxes profits, not revenue - so if the oil companies wanted to sink their profits back into research themselves, they could and avoid taxes.
EVEN LIEBERMAN SUPPORTS THIS BILL!
Reid should make them filibuster, but is there any clearer indication of their priorities.
MCMetal @ 112:
ou might be on to something i've been told it's an artificial problem devised by our mortal enemies wahhabi muslim countries....
Say -Just how far up Bush's ass can you fit your head?
Bill Clinton-hell Bill Clinton don't live here anymore!
Could we at least see a little creativity? How about, "Well, if The New Deal had not been enacted, we would have more drilling everywhere and more gas. I blame FDR."
At least it would be something new to laugh at...instead of this.
and....
McCain's chief economics advisor, Phil Gramm inserted a little loophole into Enron legislation,... a loophole that led directly to a massive transfer of wealth-- hundreds of billions of dollars-- from the pockets of consumers to the pockets of a handful of billionaire speculators and their political protectors like Bush and Cheney.
http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2008/06/george-w-bush-john-w-mccain-...
We know the repugnants are going to repeat these memes ad nauseum. The question is, how do we debunk them when the traditional media is cheerleading for McLame?
This woman seems to be always on television screens on most networks, yet she always embarrasses herself with her stupid answers and remarks.
I don't know what her level of eduction is but she is as empty as a hollow drum.
Two days ago she was on another show and she blamed 'the seventies' for our oil crisis...meaning Jimmy Carter's time.
She seems to come up with answers as the conversation goes ...
She never came up with facts in her responses...just empty words and statements to defend her party.
I'm surprised that she has been in the Congress for so long.
What's more surprising is that television shows on major networks always have her on their guests' list to babble.
How can Republicans blame Democrats when they ruled the White House for 20 years since 1980,except Clitnon's era 27-8 Clinton's=20
Congress from 1992 until 2006 = 14 years under Republicans control.????
mcBlame talking points for bush administration blame it on clinton so we can avoid the third term issue
Press Release: Release immediately...
Ironic that Rep Blackburn would blame oil prices on Pres Clinton. Ironic because the same person that started World War II, caused the Johnstown Flood, and killed Lassie with her bare hands would dare accuse anyone of anything. Did I mention her sinking the Titanic?
BTW
Blackturd attended Mississippi State University
She has a BS in BS
montana oil
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05292008/business/montana_governor_is_sittin...
What is the background of Marsha Blackburn? We need to know more about her.
I think the Repubs have found their VP candidate -- McCain / Blackburn "Almost one entire brain"
Obama needs tpo get this out to the American Public"
Oil is a finite resource.
The price will never go down.
Human intelligence is an infinite resource.
The goal should be designing cars with better gas mileage with what we have until we develop something better.
~Nyc
Randy @ 122:
America "relates" To Marsha
Estimates put it at six month of oil at current recovery and usage. (link from up above)
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/06/b91072.html
more detail at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs-0028-01/
And if we wait fifty years, and the technology of extracting it is greener and more efficient, and oil is even rarer and more valuable?
Oh right, I keep forgetting Jesus is coming before that.
Actually, if He is coming back, can't the people in charge who know Him so well have him just convert water into wine (dilute ethanol)?
That was actually probably what Dick Cheney's energy policy meeting discussed.
And if you aren't pissed enough:
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/25925/Millions-Paid-to-Dead-CEOs-Outrage-Over-'Golden-Coffins'?tickers=CMCSA,NBR,SGR,OXY
CEO's still finding ways to steal money.
taller ghost walt @ 32:
I think you'll find that the plan coming to fruition now was launched way back in the 1970's - though Cheney, Rumsfeld, Kissinger and Daddy Bush were more than likely involved then, too.
I don't think any of us really knows how much oil there is anywhere in the world, though folks in the MSM are always talking about "peak" oil. I haven't personally done and geologic surveys, so the only info I can get is from people who are proven liars.
That being said, Iran has the third largest oil reserve in the world and Iraq's is up there. That would be why the PtB want to control both nations. They can then control the price and availability of oil for dozens of decades. They are hot to trot on invading Iran now because they had the audacity to open a bourse and trade their oil in Euros instead of dollars - and eventually that could be very bad for the dollar - causing the total collapse of the US economy and most others who hold the trillions of US debt.
The real problem is, the people who created this "let's get rich" plan for themselves and their buddies in the international banking cabal really aren't smart enugh to figure out how to cash in now without causing a nuclear conflagration. Makes me feel secure....
Liars. Fucking idiots and liars.
It wouldn't suprise me one bit to learn they are purposely inflating the price of oil and gas to further this political agenda. Its hard to watch CSPAN for more than 2 hours and not see some R flapping their gums about how drilling, anywhere, is the answer to our problems. Forget the fact that oil is in limited supply, whether it drains out in 1 year or 1,000,000. WE NEED A RENEWABLE ENERGY SOURCE, NOT MORE OIL RESERVES!!!!!
Talk about being behind the times. Even from the Republicans, who don't seem to have an idea that isn't a tired throwback to the past, I don't think I have heard the "blame it on Bill Clinton" gambit in about 2 years.
TheConstitution @ 133:
Bingo. Nuclear is the way to do it, and leverages the existing 'grid' infrastructure.
Old Billy Hussein @ 113:
Well, the GOP MO seems to be to do the exact opposite of what they say.
Their old slogan used to be "personal responsibility" which really meant "everyone else's fault but mine."
Also the recent string of drug addicted homosexual whoring conservative men, makes more sense if you consider how the GOP has been so vocal against drugs, homosexuality, and for moral uprightness.
Wow...fuckin pathetic...I think it's damn near instinctive for Repugs to blame Clinton when their insidious plans go all to shit.
Fuckin assholes.
Nyc La Brets @ 129:
Sometimes, it seems, that's debatable.
Oil is more expensive because the value of the U.S. Petro Dollar has collapsed. Something like 30 countries have stopped trading oil in petrodollars over the last eight years. Of course that has nothing to do with the Bush regime, or the territorial pissings in Iraq. The talking points bleating out of Sean Hannity right now on the radio are just insane, ANWAR, Clinton, 19 Dollars a barrel. When WMD was appointed POTUS oil was around 20 Dollars a barrel! The price of a barrel of oil has a hell of a lot more to do with the collapse of the U.S. Dollar then a million barrels from Alaska. Americans are pretty stupid though, so we might just be doomed. Like about Iran, most Americans don't learn in School that the U.S. Government assassinated the Prime Minister of Iran back in 1953, they all think that Iran just started hating us back in 1979? Why do they hate us? USA! USA!
I’ve asked this before and never get an answer, I have no clue why. Why SHOULD gas prices be less? There are ecological costs ignored in prices (and national indices), when we consume oil we create costs in pollution as well as depleting a finite resource. It would be against common sense and economic law for a price of a resource to stay flat or decrease as it becomes scarcer. It’s also a continuation of the flawed economic thinking that we shouldn’t include ecological costs into prices and national induces. This is one of the largest reasons why, in addition to economic and consumption growth, that the economic system is destroying the environment.
I also don’t think that high oil prices HAVE to be a bad thing. The issue is who is benefiting off of the high prices. We should not allow large, un-democratic regimes and corporations to profit off of this situation. Take some of the wealth that isn’t theirs to begin with and use it to fund social development (Venezuela is attempting to do this and look what is happening, also look how the capitalist powers are responding. OPEC was originally created for this purpose, because rich countries like ours always under value natural resources from poor countries for our benefit, but has failed thanks to the elites and un-democratic elements that control it and use it for their benefit) and alternate fuels.
Anyone, SHOULD oil prices be less (taking into account ecological costs and scarcity) or should the high prices go towards funding needed ventures?
Just going towards more and more sources of oil is us continuing to change. It’s another sign that new ideas die quickly in this country, a supposed democracy, where only a few out of touch elites get to decide what ideas are and aren’t too radical to consider. Instead of realizing the reality we're in, let's just find more oil and continue on. We should never adjust and consider new, and better, ideas.
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 138:
Of course! It gets plenty of mileage with the FOX Noise crowd. Did you know that Enron, no WMDs in Iraq, 9/11, and Natalee Holloway were all President Clinton's fault? President Bush needs to seize this opportunity!!! :-)
Post American @ 140:
Don't forget, FOX and Bill O'Lielly, especially were saying that the invasion of Iraq were going to bring us $20 barrel oil. Hmmmmmm, where is it????
Someone needs to point out to this skank that Clinton hasn't been in office since January 2000 and that the GOP controlled Congress until 2006.
Actually, considering how they block everything the Dems try to do, I'm not so sure they don't still control it--especially with Lieberdick in the mix!
Oh yeah, I guess they must be glad Frist didn't abolish the filibuster afterall, considering it's been Mitch McConnell's best buddy recently!
I think its great to see women in politics, but soccer moms have no place in politics.
stfu Rep Blackburn, and get back in the kitchen and make me a ham sammich. you're interrupting the intellects.
*shrug* - hey, the same could be said for Nancy Pelosi and her hand-wringing "impeachment is off the table" policies. =\
I'm not totally sure but i think a couple of years ago I saw a trailer for a porno flick and I would swear it was blackburn with her back arched getting pumped by some guy. I saw it then saw blackburn on the floor of the house. I went back and founf the trailer again just to be sure and it sure looks like her. I wish I had bought the tape. I can't remember where I came across it now or I would go back and buy it and maybe send it to her campaign headquarters wouldn't that be a hoot?
These people deserve all the misery that can be piled upon them. Can you think of any more deserving people that need to be ridiculed.
If only W had a little more time to combat the things that Clinton did almost a decade ago...
but Clinton was too strong and W is too weak to change what had happened nearly ten years back.
That is what this airhead is saying, she's just using different words.
The W stands for Wimp.
We’re being ENRONed again: this time by oil futures contracts speculators who are unnecessarily and very profitably driving up the price of crude oil and hence retail gasoline prices. Curious as to why you are suddenly paying over four dollars a gallon for gasoline? No, it's not due to "supply-and-demand," no, it's not due to "OPEC," nor is it due to "peak oil." It's due to totally unregulated electronic oil futures trading in world markets. Check out the very lucid article that explains the unseen financial machinations in oil futures markets written by F. W. Engdahl on May 2, 2008, entitled, "Perhaps 60% of Today's Oil Price is Pure Speculation." It may be viewed at http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/2008/0502.html.
In a nutshell, he suggests that the Bush Administration dropped the ball in January 2006, when they allowed totally unregulated electronic trading of oil futures contracts in New York. Previously these electronic trades had been made at the London Intercontinental Exchange (ICE) Futures Market. With that decision by the Bush Administration, all of the world's oil prices were then opened to upward pressure from speculative futures contracts. In essence, oil futures contracts made by speculators, banks, hedge funds and pension funds all competed with real demand on the spot markets and had the effect of driving up both wholesale oil prices and retail gasoline prices. Speculators have made billions of dollars on their trading of oil futures contracts. All of their profits come right out of our pockets.
Even with a stable oil supply, there is a slow worldwide increase in demand for oil, which creates a long-term upward pressure on oil prices. However, with the relentless saber-rattling and war-mongering by Bush and Cheney in the last several years, and the more recent war talks by McCain and the Israelis, the oil futures markets are rife with speculation and paranoia. This war talk keeps ratcheting up the prices on the oil futures contracts and hence the wholesale spot market prices. It is an endless spiral of greed and paranoia.
As long as there is no tough and effective oversight of the electronic oil futures markets by the Bush Administration, the oil prices will climb endlessly. These oil prices will be quickly followed by hikes in the retail gasoline prices at the pump. The 60% speculation share of the $4.25/gallon gasoline price, is about $2.55/gallon, which is what we consumers are paying to these oil speculators as a "service fee." Not a bad "fee," since the speculators produce no usable goods or services...Just a few large greedy oil futures traders helping themselves to your gas money.
Without this added-on oil futures "service fee," you would be paying about $1.75/gallon for gasoline. Write, call or smoke-signal your Representatives and Senators today and suggest that they read the June 2006 report by The U. S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations entitled, "The Role of Market Speculation in Rising Oil and Gas Prices." Then demand that they investigate and then force the Bush Administration to firmly regulate the computerized oil futures contracts trading in New York, London and Dubai.
The (R) = Retarded
Marsha you ignorant slut. It blows my mind that any woman with a lick of sense would vote for McCain and then stand there and lie and believe every word your saying. I guess them thar womens like hang-ars in Tennessee...
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