Joe Lieberman's Obama Betrayal
When he was fighting for his political life in 2006, Joe Liberman desperately reached out to Senator Obama for his coveted endorsement -- and Obama came through. Now, when the time comes for Senator Lieberman to repay the favor -- at least in terms of not helping to spread Obama-is-a-muslim smears -- HolyJoe is nowhere to be found. Talk about appreciation.
TPM:
This back-story is particularly relevant right now in light of Lieberman's harsh assaults on Obama's national security credentials.
The top Lieberman official, who was directly involved in securing Obama's help, tells me that the campaign was desperate for Obama to come to Connecticut in March of 2006, soon after Lamont entered the race.
It's well known that Obama's 2006 endorsement was important. But it's not widely understood just how urgently the Lieberman people begged for Obama's help at a critical moment in Lieberman's career -- and in that light, just how much of a back-stabbing Lieberman's attacks on Obama now represent.
Like I've said before, it's Lieberman's prerogative if he wants to support John McCain. But what this episode illustrates quite vividly is just how sleazy the guy is, given how Obama came through for him in the clutch.
Can we strip this guy of his committee assignments yet?
Holy Joe is not so holy.
We need to stand up for our Party. And if not that, then our Country.
I would big bucks to see those two in a cage match.
I would PAY... I would PAY...
gahhh. :(
I wonder if he got 30 pieces of silver?
I hate him. I'm a CT resident. I campaigned hard on behalf of Lamont. I even got my dyed-in-the-wool parents to vote for Lamont instead of Lieberman.
I HATE him. I enjoyed how the HBO film, Recount, stuck it to Mr. Magoo/Emperor Palpatine/Mr. Burns - however you want to characterize this cartoonish clod.
Bah!
kep306 @ 5:
maybe 30 shekels.
"Obama is a Muslim smear"? If America has "freedom of religion", then how is smearing anymore than saying that "Obama believes in jeebus"?
How about "Lieberman is a Republican"? Now that is a smear!
Joe better pray that he never needs another fav from BO.
When are people going to start telling the truth that Lieberman is an agent of a foreign power -Israel- and NOT a 'real' Senator?
Obama didn't continue to endorse him after Joe jumped ship and ran against the Democratic nominee, so Joe gave Barrack the old you-scratch-my-back-I'll-stab-you-in-yours.
"they're smilin' in your face, all the time they wanna take your place, the backstabbers"
by the OJays in the early 70s. liarman's been sucking up to bush for so long, he is now practicing that peculiar form of bush one way street loyalty: thanks for all your help man, but when you need a favor in return, go fuck yourself . ask katherine harris, scooter libby, every american soldier, et. al. how that works. the only good thing about bush one way street loyalty is some of the people bush fucked over had it coming. hopefully john w. mcsame will pick loserman as his v.p.
Like I said the other day....http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com/2008/06/it-about-fking-time-some-dem-stood-up.html
Orangutan. @ 2:
Stand up for party and country?
How about standing up for truth and fairness?
Karl Rove is a big party and country supporter.
I'll tell you what I'd pay to see: A campaign to recall Lieberman. If there's a current effort underway, I'll contribute!
This just in: Lieberman asked for and got an endorsement from a Muslim in 2006. "Persecute the Heretic. Jehovah, Jehova..."
BTW, I thought the official line from the Stained House was: "We hate the terrists, not the Muslims."
E Pleb Neesta
GODISNOWHERE
"Blessed are the cheese makers."
"We must all follow the gourd!"
"Can we strip this guy of his committee assignment’s yet?"
According to operative Senate rules, he could have been stripped anytime in the last two years without affecting the Democratic majority. It hasn't been done simply because, when you get away from defense issues, Holy Joe tends to vote with the Democrats. And since Reid has been nervously pushing the Democrats to vote with the Republicans--why should he kick Joe out?
Blame Reid, then. He has all the spine of a land slug, and the roar of a tiger. If ever a senatorial leader was beaten before the fight is started, it's Reid.
Joe can justify his behavior the same way the fundamentalist nutjobs he's in bed with do.
He's doing it for God and at the end of days he's 'gwyne up in ta hebbin'!
Why would Joe support somebody who has a soft spot for terrorists...well as socialists would call them..."freedom fighters". Joe is a jew and he isn't supporting somebody who doesn't support Israel 100%
to me, this says more about obama than LIEberman
I hate to say it, but why did Obama endorse him? In 2006 we already had a very good idea that Lieberman was a Hannitized, Bush-loving rightwing toadie. Obama should have had better sense.
Balakirev @ 17:
Reid really needs to go. He is pathetic and out of gas. We need vitality and courage in that chair. We have suffered tremendously at the hands of the Bush enablers Reid and Pelosi. I hope Obama can use some pressure to get some new blood there.
Lieberman is a sleaze. He sucks up to the Presidents. By sucking up to McCain he is succking up the wrong tree this time. After Obama is elected Liebermans political career is Kaput.
The posters who actually try to tie Obama to this stinky piece of shit make me laugh. Lieberman lied and turned on Obama and many other decent people. Turncoat toad face Joe knows Obama's victory in November will end his sorry and worthless political career. And again, Thanks for nothing, Connecticut!
Left&Left @ 24:
so, obama didn't support LIEberman against lamont?
Underground Pirate @ 14:
Exactly right, UP! We need to stand up for the principles this country was founded on. No more, no less.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Let see here...he betrayed Obama...he betrayed the Democratic Party...he betrayed his Country....3 for 3 ya turncoat fucktard!
What's next? Betraying the planet to aliens!?!
Samson- @ 25:
No, not once Lamont was the Dem nominee.
Blue Knuckle - Mr. Magoo/Emperor Palpatine/Mr. Burns are all good (especially Palpatine), but I think you were probably closer on the other two; I refer to him as Elmer Fudd. That voice - ack!
Lieberman sucks McCain ASS. Is there any doubt about that? Why would anyone expect him to endorse Obama? How stupid is that?
Obama should be more careful with his endorsements.
Lieberman isn't a sleaze, Kansaskowboy. He's an old school Democrat. Barry is a socialist, there is a difference.
Dr. Acula @ 29:
thus, 'yes', when lamont was challenging LIEberman?
Lieberman really can't do any more damage to the Democrats at this point. His brand as a Democrat is already trashed. After November, the Party can strip him of all power and let him leave if he wants. Either way, he won't have anymore power. He won't have DEM seniority and if he goes to the GOP, he won't have seniority there either. He isn't respected in his home state anymore and he will be of little influence in the Senate. His days are numbered. As a Senator without power, even Haggee will likely find a new buddy for his fringe movement. Joe will have destroyed himself and have no one to blame but himself. McCain will be treated badly by GOP for having lost. They can lunch together and lick their wounds.
Joe Lieberman is Jewish. All Jews automatically have dual citizenship with Israel. Lieberman is backing McCain, because McCain supports whatever it takes to protect Israel's and Israel's interests in the Mid-East. Read that as neutralize Iran. Lieberman is putting Israel ahead of the USA. Lieberman is not only a traitor to the Democratic party, but he's a traitor to the USA.
Strip him of his assignments, you ask?
I say not only that, but we strip his ass, tar & feather him with his turncoat bullshit and run Judas Joe "LIE"ing man out of town (D.C.) on a rail.
My 2 cents @ 31:
Yes it's stupid. Which is why you'll find that nobody's claiming to've expected that he would.
Expecting a person to not spreading lies and rumours about a colleague, on the other hand, is something else. That's expecting him to act like a polite and honest person.
When that colleague had previously done you favours, I think you'll find that the expectation changes from 'being polite' to 'not being a totall backstabbing asshole'.
WTF? Yes.. Obama should have known in 2006 that he'd be running against McCain with Lieberman as his toady.
We have to keep in mind that Joe the Liar isn't a Dem. He is from the Connecticut for LIEberman party -- a party of one.
Doughy Joe, the Keebler Elf.
Hard to believe that he was the Dems' VP nominee in 2000. That alone was a terrible choice.
Oily, unctuous, sanctimonious, falsely pious. He's disgusting.
Is it "tit for tat" now? Obama had lots of help to get into politics - the senate - and he won't acknowlege these senators. In fact, Obama has been known to "snub" his fellow senators. What's the difference?
I don't like Holy Joe, but there's more here than meets the eye. We need the rest of the story.
NEPAConservative @ 32:
Do you also roll-over on command , too?
Rush and Hannity have you trained well, fetch boy!
Begs the question why did Obama back Lieberperson over Connecticut’s Democratic primary winner. Is Obama a DINO in Democrats clothes? He’s definitely no lefty.
McCain, Lieberman and Rev. Hagee
Lieberman unfortunately reminds me of many "establishment" jews in my family, not necessarily conservative, but sleazily adopting any position necessary to maintain their wealth and power. For all my life, these relatives have been bombarding me with pro-Isreal propoganda.
When other groups demomize jews, I feel it does not apply to me, but that it IS very relevant to others I know of. I feel responsible for letting assholes like Lieberman characterize a mostly, well-behaved group of people, and not that I give a fuck about the jewish religion.
please get this guy out of the democratic party 2009......tired of his antics...i think it was 2006 he wanted a democratic pres. in office 2008..traitor
The senator from Tel Aviv shows his true turn coat colours.
I gotta chyme in - WTF was Obama thinking endorsing Lieberman? This is the first I've heard of it and it doesn't sound good at all. Obama has some 'splainin' to do.
Colbert/Obama 08
Man would I be happy if our Party included Ned Lamont and Paul Hackett at this moment. Damn.
StirFry @ 41:
HA! Hey NEPANEOCONservative...you have no power here, troll.
Move along now, before you embarrass yourself.
Oh good grief... It's Joe fucking Lieberman...What did anyone expect??? Really??? Why should anyone be surprised or outraged at anything this trojan horse on two legs does anymore.........He's made perfectly clear what he's all about in the years since that odd Gore/Lieberman pairing... He should have been banished from all committee assignments and made persona non grata within the democratic party at least 3 years ago minimum... Kicked out of the democratic party totally to be blunt about it............. Betrayed Obama??? Fuck, the little twerp has betrayed the whole party as well as the nation and constitution..................JD
Make sure you get involved in the local races as well as the national ones. It may prove to be influential in the future.
Ed in Socal @ 35:
Then how come Israel never sent me my passport?
Interesting. Someone running for president on the platform of “good judgment is my main qualification” might not want to go there. Obama’s support for pro-Bush, pro-Iraq war hawk Joe Lieberman against the liberal antiwar candidate Ned Lamont is unforgivable. Its one of the main reasons why I don’t trust Obama. The last two years might have been much different if Liberman had lost. Not just Iraq, but other things as well. But Iraq is the biggest, most important issue this nation's faced since 2003.
I supported Lamont because I believed in his message and because I knew he would be a reliable crusader to end the war. Yet, Obama supported Liberman knowing full well that a Liberman victory would be a devastating blow against the anti-war movement. What was Obama thinking? How does this square with his "right from the start" 2002 speech against invading Iraq? Maybe someone should ask him?
It is fortunate both for Obama and our party that the Rethugs are running a guy who is probably the weakest, most inept campaigner in the past hundred years. He will be lucky to carry a single state. That said, I don't trust Obama and if liberals don't start pushing Obama to lock in specific public commitments (policies, appointments,etc) for his first hundred days, we may be regretting it for the next 8 1/2 years.
It's (should be?) just as well...
...Lieberman is another AIPAC war pig anyway,
should be no skin off Obama's back!
good riddance Joe.
poor Joe.
he thought that McCain would be facing the "hated" Clintons.
and he was wrong.
he thought/thinks that any pretext to place the US in the Middle East is a good one.
and he is wrong.
now, all he can do is smear the Dems, and oppose the values that he had espoused his whole life.
which circle of hell is for you, Joe?
Joe has to be shittin' a kosher pickle at the signs of the coming Joe-pacalypse:
1) Obama wins in November
2) Dems pick up a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate in November (unlikely, but could happen).
He will then find himself caucusing in the Capitol men's room with Larry "Restless Leg" Craig. CT voters will pull down his pants and taunt him come election time.
Can we start up a collection of silver pieces for Lieberman? We'd only need 30.
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 49:
God forbid a troll enters a pit of vipers.
Thank you for the compliment though.
I'm just proving a point...Liberalism IS a mental disorder.
Now I'll move along before somebody else starts to cry that there's a conservative reading this crap.
Honestly doesn't it get boring preaching to the choir ?
For the record...not a Rush fan.
miss_kitty @ 57:
I ain't givin that traitor squat!
Lieberman has been offered a cabinet position by McCain. If McCain doesn't win then Lieberman will switch to the Republican party when he runs for re-election in 2012 since he knows he can't win a three way election.
NEPAConservative @ 58:
Ahahaaahahahahahahaaaaaa!
liberalism a mental disorder? that's fuckin rich!
Does LIE-berman think he has a chance to return to the senate in 2012?
Ok, we ment Mike Savage and Hannity. Big difference *rolleyes*
liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 61:
Don't let the door hit ya on the ass on yer way out!
lieberman dual citizenship...u.s. israel.........we know what he wants invasion of iran and continued occupation of iraq
Obama endorsed Lieberman and we're supposed to feel sorry for him now because Joe returning the favor?? Obama should be hung out to dry for betraying his party and backing a worthless POS like Joe in the first place. He also shouldn't accept any endorsement from Lieberman either; all Democrats should do whatever they can to stay away from Joe and just let the Republicans keep him and maybe McSame will be foolish enough to put him on the GOPerv ticket.
bye bye
I think that misguided chap got it wrong.
Mossback, regressive, myopic conservatism is a mental disorder. Over the decades, liberalism is what produced every important bit of legislation in this country -- despite fang-toothed opposition from the troglodyte right. This isn't opinion, but empirical fact.
I mean, just look at all of the reich-wingers out there! Unhinged! Defensive! Angry! Delusional! Bitter! Resentful!
Godspeed, troll. Thanks for sharing your stupidity. It's always a kick.
Funny that our conservative guinea pig would share a clip of Shrub's asinine "speech" in Israel. Oh, well, there's no accounting for reich-wing idiocy.
Isn't this the Fable of the Scorpion and the Frog?
Did the Republicans kidnap Joe after 2000 and implant a GOP chip in his brain?
This old senile fool is too brain-addled to understand ANY issue. His PTSD and his dementia are catching up with him.
PLEASE POST THIS EXCERPT EVERYWHERE YOU GO - It was highlighted by C & L some time ago and is taken verbatim from the forward of McInsane's book entitled: "The Best and the Brightest".
"It was a shamefl thing to ask men to suffer and die, to persevere through god-awful afflications and heartache, to endure the dehumanizing experiences that are unavoidable in combat, for a cause that the country wouldn't support over time and that our leaders so wrongly believed could be achieved at a smaller cost than our enemy was prepared to make us pay. No other national endeavor requires as much unshakable resolve as war. If the nation and the government lack that resolve, it is criminal to expect men in the field to carry it alone."
THIS NEEDS TO BE THE BEGINNING POINT OF EACH OF THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES! PLEASE CONTACT EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND SPREAD MCCAIN'S OWN WORDS AROUND THIS COUNTRY.
He's either 1)a bigger liar than we presently think he is 2) being totally blackmailed by Bush as he was during the 2000 primaries regarding the release of what really happened on the USS Forestal or 3) Absolutely and Certifiably Insane.
Now, what the hell was BO doing endorsing that sack o' crap? It's this kind of maneuver that had me supporting Clinton -- who, by the way, did not endorse Obama, and raised money for Lamont. Qualified, yes. Did Bill speak for Lieberman? Yes. But BO endorsed him! If only the conservative slander -- he's a dangerous radical -- was true about Obama.
And Joe "BlubberLips" Lieberman - well, what can anyone say about this obvious shill? He was the quintessential "wolf in sheep's clothing" who, at this point in time, has no political capital and no personal power - other than with AIPAC and the Bush Cabal.
I didn't know this before. I wonder if this was what Obama was informing him of when he had that little talk with him. Lieberman is truly a slime. I will hammer on him as hard as I can as often as I can from here on out.
NEPAConservative @ 67:
Au revoir, troll.
Samson- @ 33:
Yes Obama played "politics" and as the junior Senator from Illinois he took the Dem. party position and supported the incumbent Lieberman in the primary. When Lamont won the primary, Obama supported him. You "progressives" who keep bringing this point up state the obvious if you're trying to expose the fact that Obama makes mistakes (now compare Obama's gaffes to Dubya or McStupid and get back to me). But not for Lieberman( a liar and traitor), we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Left&Left @ 77:
It's tough getting through to some people, isn't it L&L?!
It's not about Republicans and Democrats anymore. It's about who will continue to support Israel. Holy Joe, the orthodox Ashke-nazi Neo-con never had any allegiance to any party. I wouldn't be surprised if like many of the Neo-cons, who have dual citizenship with Israel, Joe is of the same ilk. Why don't they just move there!!!
Joe Lieberman, party of me.
Dr. Acula @ 78:
So Obama fucked up. At the time he was doing what he thought was best for watever reason. BUT IT IS NOTHING compared to what Lieberman has done since he was elected. He has changed his affiliation to Republican. He doesn't have the balls to came out and actually say it. He is too chicken shit.
With all this Lieberman crap for the last six months I have not seen any pols on what the good folks of Connecticut think about this asshole. Surely they must be pretty pissed off by now.
Left&Left @ 77:
you put progressives in quotes, nice subtle jab. thanks. i love the irony.
and the lame-o-meter is pretty high when you infer that somehow i support bush, or mccain or lieberman just because i question if obama supported lieberman over lamont.
LIEberman's career is over on Jan. 21, 2009.
He can go drinking with dumbya after that.
Samson- @ 83:
I did not suggest that you supported Bush(what a reach). And I'm not apologizing for Obama. In retrospect I too think it was a mistake. I simply think to point out the fact that the guy makes mistakes is a little silly. I hear jabs like this every morning from Scarborough, Mika, and Willie(yeah I watch Joe's shitty show in the morning at the gym) Lieberman pissed on a lot of people's faith.
Dr. Acula @ 78:
I don't get the point, we all screw up. Obama fucked up on that one. Big deal.
I'm as big of an Obamaniac as they come but I have to say that Obama is getting just what he deserves on this one.
I was disgusted when he supported LIEberman over Lamont.
Bet he wishes he had THAT one to do over!
I bet there are a lot of Democrats in the Senate who wish they had it to do over again!
I am sick of Politico.com's hatchet jobs on Obama (which are disseminated by Yahoo news.) Look at these crap headlines:
Democratic division:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080612/pl_politico/11029;_ylt=Al.zICR...
McCain appealing to young voters:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080612/pl_bloomberg/at83ytwalldq;_yl...
McCain and Obama basically the same on issues:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ibd/20080611/bs_ibd_ibd/20080611general01;_ylt=A...
Keeping bullshit rumors (he's a muslim!) in the headlines:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20080612/us_time/exclusiveobamasantirumorpl...
Politico is the electronic Fox News.
Left&Left @ 86:
Wait, so Obama backed Lieberman in the primary, but Lamont in the general?
How is that a mistake?
The incumbent Dem is usually going to be the stronger candidate, and you get some serious blow back from the party if you don't support an incumbent in the primary. And when Lamont was the Democratic name on the ticket, Obama supported him even though Lieberman has the personal connections and backroom pull - that was somewhat courageous considering the full flight most Dems took from any mention of the race.
The bottom line here is not what Obama did, but that Lieberman is using any means necessary against the Democratic candidate. And will therefore be re-named "Liebertool." Okay?
What a frikkin' SCUMBAG!!
Lieberman needs to be stepped-on for this.
The Party Elders better deal harshly with the MFKer, when the time comes.
I will use that as a measure of Democratic GUTS.
I don't care if it is Lieberman, Ferraro, or HRC herself- the Democratic Party 'acts' like it loves its Black\Brown members as long as they need them. Lieberman's recent behavior shows that he is no longer interested in the DNC or anything connected to it. The "(I)" behind his title\position stands for "I don't give a flying-eff" and he is now trying to slowly [blatantly] throw his lot in with the GOP. Case in point, the fact that he is sooo cool with Hagee's C.U.F.I. organization says that he is willing to accept the support of people that hope to see his eventual destruction\eradication [and that of Israel] as long as it provides the IMMEDIATE support he needs to achieve his goals. I think he represents Israel more than he represents CT. But what do I know?
Keeping with the subject, white women in the Democratic Party that are threatening to vote for McCain over Obama's candidacy are acting THE SAME WAY, but their motivations are sexist [and racist, IMHO] while Lieberman's are all about his ego and trying to hold onto power by any means necessary.
so many people, that i normally dig, are incredibly sensitive about this subject.
to me, obama's support for LIEberman was akin to hillary's vote for the iraq resolution: something done for political reasons, that the thinking and caring faction of the dems rejected intensely. and, like hillary, he would have been better off NOT doing that. but he did.
i still support obama in the race, begrudgingly (even though he let kucinich dangle in the wind when kucinich tried to do what congress should have been doing), but if you expect me to be the aptly attentive cheerleader, well, sorry, no can do. i guess that is why i am an indep. i never was good at pep rallies.
Old Billy Hussein @ 88:
I completely agree. Obama would have been criticized which ever candidate he would have supported. To be fair, anyone(and there were many) who signed off on Traitor Joe made a 20/20 mistake. But Lieberman's subsequent actions is what made this move a mistake, Not Obama's or anyone's vote. I give up....my head hurts.
This from the Kos link:
To me, this seems over the top. Given Obama did endorse Lamont, and did send out the email (pitiful as it was,) I don't think its right to say Obama ran interference for Lieberman or "undermined" Lamont.
Once Liebertool started running an independent campaign in the general, the whole thing became a catastrophe.
So, Liebertool is still making terrible decisions for Senate Democrats. If he decided to caucus with the Republicans, the Dems would be even more screwed. Smoking Joe had a huge lead in the CT general. A strident Senate Democrat voice on behalf of Lamont would have only served to further push Lieberman into the Republican caucus. I know its the same flaccid argument of Liebertool's so-important status, but I think Obama probably played this one pretty smart.
jackinthebox4 @ 55:
The one in the middle of Baal's asshole.
Samson- @ 91:
"Obama's support for LIEberman was akin to Hillary's vote for the Iraq resolution" Samson, dude come on now.
Left&Left @ 95:
yup, it was for political reasons, like the un-pasted part of my sentence said.
it was the 'safe' move, the insider way-to-go. if not that... then why?
Samson- @ 91:
Obama's support for Liebertoolio is so much less severe than Clinton's vote for the AUMF.
There are strategies and there are objectives. At worst, Obama's decision represented an error in strategy - and that's a question because we don't know how it would have played out otherwise. Considering that it should be an objective NOT to kill hundreds of thousands of people, Clinton made a greater error.
I don't think you should compare Obama to Kucinich - I think Kucinich is a great guy. I think you should compare Obama to the status quo and realize that Obama is an outstanding candidate. I think you need to realize that Obama can be a transformational candidate (redefining the middle back toward the left) and this election can result in a Democratic majority in the House and a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate.
I think if you consider what's possible (instead of inspecting Obama for imperfections) you would embrace the cheerleader position.
Please realize, Samson, I don't mean to attack personally. I write this with all respect.
Yet another reason to loathe the current batch of Dems that lead the party. They should have tossed his back-stabbing ass out of cmtes. a long, long time ago. But they are so spineless, fearful they would lose a single vote, that they supposedly felt it necessary to cut him some slack. Nice job morons.
And speaking of morons, nice job by the Veep vetting panel in 2000 for almost putting him in the #2 position alongside Gore. It probably cost the Dems at least one state. And one was all that was needed.
I would imagine that come the next election for Senate, the people of Conn. will do what the majority party in the Senate refuses to do: Put him out to pasture for good. Then again, they bought his load of crap the last time round too.
But thank you, voters from Connecticut, for keeping him around so that he can ruin it for everyone else outside of your state.
:)
Old Billy Hussein @ 97:
ahhh, Old Billy Hussein, you will always be Original Bill to me
:-)
i have failed to make my point (*sigh* a pattern i've been in). i was not trying to say that obama’s support for lieberman in the CT dem primary was the same as supporting this god-awful clusterfuck in iraq. And I apologize if that is what anyone got out of that. I was attempting to say that obama’s decision to support Lieberman was for political purposes, not b/c he is a diehard leiberman fan. Which is why, I surmise, hillary voted for the iraq resolution, for political purposes, not b/c she believed we should invade iraq. The comparison I was trying to make was about the decision making process, not the actual issue.
I do think, for a mainstream candidate, that obama can be an iconic and transformational figure. And that someone like Kucinich—who to me was the one nominee with courage, integrity and honesty—would most likely never get the nomination, due to the entrenched money that would stop him, is a sad truth.
But, I think it is vital that, as liberals/progressives/lefties/indeps/dems/etc we ensure that obama stays true. Which, at times, requires us to point out things we don’t like.
And fussy bridges, like me, might become more cheerleader-esque (I am hard wired against being a true cheerleader. That is, unless we are talking about a zeppelin show) if we are able to point out the good and the bad, but in the end know who the candidate is and be politically-smitten….
Warts and all.
Well I hope Obama learned his lesson.
this Congress is FULL of SNAKES LIKE LEIBERMAN.
Joe, ever self-serving opportunist, has well earned his last name Lieberquisling.
Lieberman has drank from the republican fountain. Anyone who has, will never be normal again.
Lie-ber-man is a scumbag!!! He is in the pocket for the Israelis. I admire the Isrealis for standing up to the crazy Arabs who hate the Jews. I think the Jews havd had their share of misery and deserve to live safely in Isreal and co-exist with the Arabs. The Arabs hate the Jews and want to kill them all -like they would the Christians, the Hindus and everyone else including themselves (shia vs Sunnis etc etc). Now, the problem is that America is not Isreal and should stop and think. US needs to be fair to the Isrealis and the Arabs. Because, they are not fair, the Arabs hate the US. The Isrealis need to be fair to the Arabs and the Arabs need a kick on their behinds and act like humans rather than the garbage they are. They need to learn to be humans first and live peacefully and recognize that the Isrealis have a right to live too. Confusing !!! Sure... but it does not help when we have a Senator who is like a conservative Jew who just fails to recognize that US is not Isreal, that he is not in Isreal but in the US and needs US to be independent and behave more like a moderator rather than an extension of Isreal. Lastly, Lieberman is repulsive and acts and behaves like a snake. Whatever, respect I have for the Jews in this country, he makes me want to hate them because I just don't like his snakey looks. Do I make sense.
Joe lies.
its about israel
duh
ricchase @ 104:
Just wait until he starts trolling the airport mens rooms.
Rev. O.J. Flow @ 106:
Ha-HA!!! "Joe lies, when he cries..."
What an evil piece of crap this man is. He should have never been on the 2000 ticket, unless, of course, he's an entirely different individual than he was back then.
What a creep.
Old Billy Hussein @ 89:
Dr. Acula @ 29:
Obama gave very tepid support to Lamont in the general. Even Kos went after him on this...
Underground Pirate @ 22:
You've given me another good reason to vote for Obama: the hope that with a moderate Democrat in the WH who stands up regularly to the Rethugs, Reid and his Don Knotts impression will get a swift and effective challenge to the Senatorial leadership. Pelosi? I'm more impressed by her work, but only if she uses a larger, more progressive Democratic majority in the House to truly splinter the Rethugs. I really, really want that bunch of Bush pod people as decimated and fractured as the Democrats have been. Let them sit it out in the wilderness for a while, as others attempt to put the country, the law, and the government back together.
Lieberman unfortunately stays put until the Democrats gain a comfortable majority in the Sentate. After that, watch for Joe to be handing out towels and selling cheap cologne in the Senate Men's room.
Larry Craig will not like the competition. Oh wait, he is a Republican and is all for free trade.
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Rev. O.J. Flow @ 106:
Barrack "evolves".
knifewrench @ 110:
Ok....But Obama was on his knees for Joe (His senate "mentor") at a $175 a plate fundraiser in the Primary:
"I know that some in the party have differences with Joe," Senator Obama said, all but silencing the crowd. "I'm going to go ahead and say it. It's the elephant in the room. And Joe and I don't agree on everything. But what I know is, Joe Lieberman's a man with a good heart, with a keen intellect, who cares about the working families of America. I am absolutely certain that Connecticut's going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the United States Senate."
Tepid? Uh....Not.
Every Democrat I know and a hell of a lot of Democrats I don't know knew that Lieberman was a schmuck back in 2006 and were rooting for Lamont. So why did Obama call him a mentor and go to bat for him in the first place? I will vote for Obama in Nov. because I am a loyal Democrat but damn, I do have questions about his judgement and associations.
What? Joe likes to push his supporters under the bus?! Impossible!
First of all, Lie-berman was a two-faced bastard before his last election. I hated seeing all those Dems. run to his side. Now he's paying them back by shitting on them. I really don't like pols doing things for political expediency, or the "strange bedfellows" bullshit. Obama is getting just what he deserves for supporting the asshole in the first place.
Joe Lieberman represents an important lesson for Obama, and for all Democrats. That lesson is about the importance of the choice of a Vice President. In retrospect, who's side was Joe on in the 2000 election.
It seems that he had more in common with George Bush then he had with Al Gore. Could it be that had Gore made a different choice for his VP, that there would never have been a Bush Presidency?
LIE-berman is a SLUG. He leaves a trail of SLIME and OOZE wherever he goes.
When ANY re-PIGlic says to him "Joe, bend over!" Holy Joe's only question is "How far?"
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The most surprising aspect of this story is that Obama actually gave Lieberman his endorsement. Somehow I find that saddening.
Why did Gore pick this guy to be his VP candidate?
Lieberman is in his own class of douche bag. Cheney is a goon (see Letterman clip), Bush is a fucking idiot, Rumsfeld was a smug s.o.b., AG a consumate liar and spineless "toy" (of Cheney), and Liebrman is a whole new category of slime.
NEPAConservative @ 58:
That last post was supposed to look more like this:
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"Honestly doesn’t it get boring preaching to the choir ?"
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No. It doesn’t. Millions come in here to read.
Back in the days of eternal flag waving “patriotism” many of us found this site, when we thought we were all alone, wondering WTF was going on in the USA. I am one of them!!!!!
Orangutan. @ 2:
The only thing this cretin cares about is Israel and after November he can pack his bags and head for the land of milk and honey permanently! Don't let the door smack you on the ass on the way out you sorry ass cocksucker!
Lieberman is an Israeli firster first and foremost. He is an Isaeli firster in support of radical and unfair legislation and foreign policy that not only puts Israel in danger but endangers the U.S.
Lieberman should have to register as an Israeli foreign agent. He should never be able to serve in any administration due to continuously lobbying for foreign policies that endanger the U.S. and Israel.
this guy is a traitor, and a chicken hawk. Lieberman got a deferment during Vietnam due to being a parent and being in school. But he is more than willing to send your relatives to fight in unnecessary and immoral wars that he helps start.
And what is with the dual citizenship of Lieberman in both Israel and the U.S. Our Reps should not be able to be dual citizens of any two countries. They need to choose. Choose Lieberman!
The Rude Bellman @ 123:
I believe Gore's handlers screwed him. Lieberman was picked to win the I-Lobby and Florida. Instead they screwed Gore in Florida. Read "Too close too count"
Jack Canuck @ 120:
Also another important lesson about the individuals who support the Israeli and I-lobby agenda above what is good for the U.S. Schumer and Feinstein are more examples their yes vote for AG Mukasey.
Feingold rises above the I-lobbies destructive agenda over and over again .
I would really like to witness Senator Feingold be our first Jewish President!
Bluesage @ 117:
Because Lieberman has voted for the middle and working classes in many instances. It's just that Joe takes a hard right (wrong) when it comes to foreign policy that has to do with Israel and starting unnecessary and immoral wars. I truly believe this turn to the wrong has hurt Israel in the long run
Rev. O.J. Flow @ 106:
The endless lies that have come out of Senator Liebermans mouth when their are discussions in the Senate having to do with Iraq, Iran, and for instance the Kyl Lieberman amendment that are beyond shame and conscience.
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