McCain-Giuliani '08?
AEI’s David Frum, a former Bush speechwriter and top aide to Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign, has an item in The New Republic this week about John McCain and the possible impact of his running mate. It’s Frum’s conclusion, though, that’s noteworthy. (via Yglesias)
I have my own personal nomination for vice president for McCain. It’s Rudy Giuliani, precisely because he shares the vision of a practical, reforming, war-winning Republican Party that inspires John McCain, plus the stronger-than-usual grounds for hoping that he might be the rare candidate who can make a difference in an essential state — in this case, New Jersey.
But, my personal preferences aside, I hope, Senator, that you will make your choice with this consideration in mind: This choice may prove to be your most important legacy to your party and your country. Your nominee probably won’t help your candidacy–but he or she may secure your vision or else destroy your reputation. Sports talk about the veepstakes is good, entertaining political fun. But a party in as much trouble as the GOP in 2008 has little time for fun.
Oh, I don’t know, David, if McCain picked Giuliani for the ticket it would enormous fun.
In fact, just to extend the entertaininment factor a bit, I’ll add some fuel to the baseless speculation and note that once the McCain campaign secured the nomination and took over the RNC, the committee hired Victory 2008 directors, many of whom are “veterans of the Giuliani presidential campaign, and before that, veterans of the 2006 RNC field operation run by Mike DuHaime, formerly the Giuliani campaign manager.”
Clear evidence of a Giuliani role in the presidential campaign? Well, no, but a guy can dream.
Keep in mind, there was ample talk of a McCain-Giuliani ticket earlier this year.
When Giuliani traveled to California to officially endorse McCain, MSNBC’s report immediately touched on the notion of Giuliani as McCain’s running mate.
The same day, Stephen Bainbridge wrote:
Listening to Giuliani’s withdrawal and endorsement speech, I couldn’t help wondering whether we just heard Rudy making a bid for the Vice Presidency. The emphasis on their shared beliefs, their similar policy positions especially on the GWOT, and especially the need for a 50-state coalition. That last point sounded like an argument that McCain needs a VEEP who can appeal to Blue State voters; namely, Rudy.
Hugh Hewitt added at the time that no one should be surprised if “McCain selects a Rudy or Joe Lieberman as a running mate as an ‘all-in’ play for the muddled middle of the country.”
I realize that there have been plenty of surprises this year, but I simply cannot imagine the circumstances that would lead McCain to pick Giuliani for the GOP ticket. It’s simply unfathomable. Giuliani ran one of the more embarrassing presidential campaigns in recent memory and lost every contest in which he competed, usually by enormous margins. He invested millions and ended up without a single delegate.
Frum believes Giuliani could help McCain win in New Jersey. Not only do I think that’s false, I’m quite confident Giuliani wouldn’t even move the needle in his home state of New York.
For that matter, the quickest way to enrage the Republican base is to put a serial-adulterer and supporter of abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, and liberal immigration policies on the ticket.
Then again, maybe I’m going about this the wrong way. Allow me to revise my analysis — please don’t put Giuliani on the ticket, Sen. McCain, because he’d be too great an asset. With him, you’d be unbeatable. Dems everywhere are scared of the Giuliani juggernaut and the ease with which he’d help you win a national landslide.
Yeah, that’s what I meant to say.
The repugs are cartoon caricatures.
I'm thinking Linda Graham.
That's great!
Can't wait to get those photos of Giuliani In Drag and post them all over the city!
Ha! Go ahead McCain! Pick Guiliani! Do you want to send the religiuos right into a tizzy? I would love to see that!
Yes, please!! The GOPtanic will sink like a stone.
Go for it mc bush, that is if Forrest Gump is busy....
Picking your nose or picking Guiliani, either one is a good choice. Snot!
If it happens will Rudy wear a dress to the convention to try and get the Hillary vote?
I'm thinking the Mittster.
Mittster "Seamus" Romney
Just remember, with Rudy comes Judith...and her tiara.
Oh, the ecstatic Joy of such a campaign -- Mc-Giuliani's.... "would you like genocide with that?"
lol. At least there's something funny in the news today!
I said this also about the speculation that Jindal could be McSame's running mate. I wholeheartedly endorse either choice, and wish to keep all the reasons why this is a moronic pick to a minimum until after the choice is made. Knowing this won't be the case, I will just sit back and pray I get to watch the Freepers have a total meltdown if Rudy is the pick. Just when they are getting to the point where they can hold their noses and vote for McSame, this would be the ultimate slap in the face.
They could co-host SNL too.
GC @ 8:
LMFAO!!!!
When diebold secures the election for the GOP, remember, the VP will stand a good chance of taking over the office of president after McCain kicks the bucket.
OMG talk about an early Christmas gift. It just couldn't get ANY better than that.
Jeb is that you in the bushes over there?
This is such a hysterical picture. It's like a hot headed, mean spirited, Giulianai actually trying to work with Grandpa Moses! I'd give Giuliani about 2 weeks, and he will have strangled McCain! Face it! There is no decent match. McCain is wrong for the job. He's way too old, and way to slow and sinking steadily into dementia as we speak! Like Rudy could pass being vetted anyway!
sounds like a trial balloon to me.
A lead one at that.
Imagine the Cyndee-Judee conversations about their premarital fuck-pad hijinks - wait a minute. Is Judee still consort?
P.D. @ 4:
Yup. Two men, five marriages between them. So much for the party of family values. Meanwhile, the Dems have Obama, still married to his one and only wife.
God, I hope the Republicans persist in the fantasy that Jersey is a swing state. And how comically wrong is the notion that picking Giuliani would help carry Jersey? I understand that NJ is more like two states in one as far as makeup, but from the standpoint of someone born and bred in South Jersey, that is just about as funny as it gets.
Pullleeeeeeze pick Rudy. Can't think of a better roomate for John McCain and he might even turn him on to some cross dressing parties. Plus, that would be two of the ugliest men in America on the GOP ticket.
McCain/Giulliani 08: Get off my lawn 911.
giuliani has avoided indictment so far. in the g.o.p. that qualifies him for vp.
Hello USA, guess at this time it's probably mostly west coasters here.
Hello progressive Americans.
now, on topic, I guess they could do their whole campaign on the set of Saturday Night Live.
I hear Gore on CNNI just now and he was on fire! Go Obama!!!
This is a truly scarey scenario...........
Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, puhlllllllllleeeeeeaaaaaaaasssssssssse make this happen!
Oh, good. The "Both-Bald & Both-Have-Cheated-On-Their-Wives Ticket."
gempei @ 24:
yep
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ in Chiang Mai @ 26:
Bob, it just turned 10pm(yesterday) here in the Eastern Tie Zone!
That said.....goodnight! It's 10pm! Who stays up that late?!?
Andy K Jong Il @ 31:
Too bad, you guys are fun .... but so are the left coasties.
G'nite Andy, I'm waitng for breakfast.
what a target-rich environment the republicans are putting together.
Bush Is A Yankee @ 29:
whay aren't the kids on the campaign trail with either one of them?
family values = anotherfucking repug lie!
I know McCain's people must do internal polling, so there's no freakin way they would take Rudy, but boy wouldn't that be great!
Seriously, with Giuliani on the ticket the Republican Party would suffer a monumental defeat that would cause nothing short of political disintegration. After the election in November there would be nothing left but religious splinter groups, neo-whigs and various other warring wingnut factions.
"McShrub-Ghouliani/ Adulterers and Divorcees for America"
They already have a 6 pack of wives.
MarinatedInSmog @ 37:
Ooooh... zing!
All of the VEEP choices for McCain are even worse than McCain, which should make the next four years very entertaining and very depressing in a Constitutional sort of way.
Giuliani as VP? Works for me. Barack Obama will definitely be the next President of the US.
tuddies @ 39:
Why? It will be entertaining and depressing to be able to rub their noses in the fact that they suffered a stunning defeat this November? I don't think you should rub their noses in the defeat for four years, but if you feel like it, go for it.
jac @ 40:
McCain as the nominee? Works for me. Barack Obama will definitely be the next President of the US.
I don't care what anyone says frum is about the most ignorant fool I can think of until I think of another MSM "personality" or just any neocon. The all remind me of one flew over the cuckoos nest!
It'll be McCain-Romney, and that's a lock.
LongTooth @ 44:
More like "that's a Goldilock," since it's a fairytale that they'd ever make it to the White House. Of course, that would be great. "The All-Special-Undergarments Ticket." Grandpa with his Depends, and Romney with hi Super-Secret-Religious-Underoos.
Bush Is A Yankee @ 45:
*his
"Your nominee probably won’t help your candidacy–but he or she may secure your vision or else destroy your reputation."
So a top Repug strategist thinks this is the best McSame can hope for? I'd say the 'Straight Talk Express' is about to derail.
Although wih Rudy in the mix, perhaps it should be called the 'Cross-Dress Express' (no offense to TVs/TGs)
Ron @ 2:
Or Linda Blair...
2 bald dudes on the same ticket... Hah!~
Guaranfuckingteed to lose.
Do it.
Oh please God.. Let Rudy run.... I was looking so damn forward to the NYPD and NYFD tearing Rudolph a new asshole. They will destroy Mr 911 zero in a hurry.
i read somewhere that Fred Thompson said he'd be open to the idea. now wouldn't that be an exciting ticket!!!!!Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I give my enthusiastic endorsement to the all a-hole ticket.
The reaction of southern Repugs: Secession!
9/11 24/7!
The Screaming Blazing Loony Party @ 54:
Exactly!
Noun verb 9/11
Andy K Jong Il @ 28:
dont beg ! its seems like desperation!
False Dmitriy @ 53:
With any luck, the North will have the brains to let the South go this time around...
Rudy is well known in NY circles as the guy that shows up to the party dressed like Marilyn Monroe.
Flash @ 15:
That is why Jeb Bush will be the pick for VP
The Screaming Blazing Loony Party @ 54:
A 924 at 7-11?
McCain's VP will be none other than Joe Lieberman. The war party duo is determined to attack Iran.
McCain/Giuliani is my dream ticket too
EarthAbides @ 59:
Sh'yeah. That's a winning ticket. For sure. ROFLMAO
galmud @ 62:
Then you're kinda stupid.
Two bald dudes on the same ticket? Has that ever happened before?
Oh I can't wait - Rudy can dress up in all his glory and dance with St. McCain at all the inaugural balls. They won't even need the 2nd, 3rd, whatever wives.....
Gui911ani would be a sure sign that the GOP is just laying down this election. Two words for everyone: Bernie Kerick. That's who Rudi recommended take over as head of DHS. If Rudy would put America's security in the hands of a corrupt criminal with bad taste in women, then surely we are all doomed. As for the McCain Veepstakes, my money is on Mitt the Schitt. Mitt is actually the one GOP guy that, if he had won the nomination, actually would not be a total nonstarter against Obama. Go Barack! Do not let us down when you win. Be what you say you are.
McCain will go with Lieberman or Mitt the Schitt. Lieberman is waiting around like a hangdog, hoping, waiting, that his moment of zionist glory will at long last arrive.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 65:
They are not "two bald dudes". They are "two combover dudes". As a proud bald man, I can tell you whenever a dude is combing over, he's got something to hide besides his thinning hairline!
is napalm pre or post natal !
sailors will be sailors
they didnt like the VC owning guns
The Vietnamese werent asked if they wanted the US war machine on their soil
tr @ 25:
Well that and the fact that he's a bona-fide fascist.
Says on Wikipedia that Giuliani applied for a draft deferment after he left law school in 1968. He was turned down. He had the judge he was clerking for request to have him classified as an essential civilian employee. This was granted.
It would be great if McCain were dumb enough to pick this egomaniac as his running mate. I'd love to watch Jim Webb or Wesley Clark ask him to explain why he skipped Vietnam.
53 False Dmitriy Says: The reaction of southern Repugs: Secession!
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My reaction to them: PLEASE!
The pickin's over at the GOP sure are thin this time around...
Now Giuliani's in the mix, given his poll numbers?
Wow...talk about the bottom of the barrel.
What, the governor who performs exorcisms wasn't good enough?
What about the Huckster, who probably has videos of himself as bad as Hagee floating around?
Giuliani disgusted me more than anybody at those republican debates, which is really saying something. He's even worse than greaseball "double Guantanamo" Romney. Although his utter failure in the primary is mostly due to his moronic campaign strategy, I'd like to think it was also because it's so easy to see that the guy's a douche.
I'm somewhat conflicted here. He'd probably completely ruin an already worthless ticket and I'd love to see him lose again. On the other hand, is it really worth the risk of having a VP who thinks that freedom is about ceding to authority? Christ, who actually says shit like that?
Also, as I think others have aluded to, can you imagine what a Jim Webb or a Wesley Clark would do to this guy in a debate? I'd love to see this authoritarian motherfucker, armed with nothing but 9/11 references, get pounded by a candidate who realizes foreign policy isn't always about flexing nuts.
I can see why Giuliani is a good choice. I mean why not pick a guy who came behind Ron Paul in nearly every state!
Giuliani for McSame's vice is an excellent idea. You go girl.
Hope Republicans latch onto that idea.
God help us, please, what a disaster that would be, i feel ill at the prospect.
John McCain and John Ellis Bush.
Think the country's going down the crapper now? That's why we NEED Two Johns!
Seriously (nahh), no matter who McCain picks will turn out to be about as useful as a signed endorsement by Martin Bormann.
So wait, now it will work that everything is "a noun, a verb, and then Hanoi, and 9/11"? If this goes through, we may have to invade Vietnam looking for WMD.
Please McSame, do it ! Pick the most rejected Repugnicant of the primaries as your running mate, please, please, please !!
This wont happen, it's just too good to be true.
I think this ticket would actually be the "DREAM TEAM" Ticket
Dream Team for the Democratic party that is.
They are actually thinking of running a guy that is even more toxic than Old Whistlin' Dentures himself.
Those Neo-Cons must know something that the rest of the country doesn't!
Watch your ballot boxes and voting machines!!!
David Frum is teh suck.
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/detainees/story/38779.html
suck on that
Hey its McC and julie the infedelity twins!!! Let them cheat on their new wives with eachother or act like true congressmen and find fresh young underage men!!!
you bet it would be fun
Giuliani and Cindy could go shoping for makeup and trowels together. And she could give him skin care tips to keep the youthful botox glow.
Okay so at this point two suggestions for veep provide nothing but fodder for jokes . . . the one above and then Jindal who because of how young he is has fueled the (really disrepectful) joke that he and McCain would be saving the country money since they can shop for their underware in the same aisle of the grocery store.
so two down .. whose next? Mitt?
Adding Giuliani to help McCain win essential states like NJ, would be like using gasoline to put out a fire. Jersey, and NY for that matter, know too well what a jackass Giuliani was/is and his 9/11 grandstanding and exploitation, along with the shenanigans of Bernie Kerik, has only furthered the disdain. Firefighters, Cops and other Unions in the area will foam at the mouth to pound on the Rudester....Go ahead Senile John, pick Saint Rudy of the Rubble!
All of this of course overlooks the fact that Obama is building a strong presence in the state and could capture 60% no matter what Johnny McSame does.
Does that mean they'll be two First Ladies?
Or would julianni be First Lady
And Cindy First C**t?
So that would be, Mr. "Every Question is answered by 'I was a POW'" with Mr. "Every Queston is Answered by '911.'"
Can hardly wait for the debates.
Seriusly, it will be Mitt Romney. He is a malicious, angry smearer. He will spend the entire campaign calling Obama and wife fiends, Communists, and child molesters. Think I'm kidding? Look at old tapes of what he called McSame during the primaries.
Wow. Mr. "My Friends" and Mr. "9/11". Holy shit. Boring speeches galore.
WHY WON'T YOU BELIEVE ME? THEY'RE GOING TO RUN JEB BUSH AS THE VEEP.
THAT WAY WHEN THE GEEZER KICKS OFF, THEY HAVE THEIR NEXT 8 YEARS.
And you can place a bet on the kick off.
Check out this story at CNN:
"(CNN) – For only the second time in nearly three decades, there won’t be a Bush on the presidential ballot this November. But that absence may not be a permanent one, the current White House occupants hinted Sunday."
Bwahahahahaha.
Yeah, do that.
I think he should pick Jed Bush.....when jeb has experience, he can be Prez after the job kills McCain. Then we really will have a continuation of the "wonderful" Bush legacy.
Pardon...I was speaking of suporting Kucinich.......I guess some things must be made clear. He has my respect, just not my firearms.
Good luck folks.
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Whats the matter? That Jindal kid look so bad on the sunday gab circuit they're throwing him back already??? Whatever, Rudy's not going to save the GOP's ass either..................JD
There it is, folks. This has been my prediction all year. All the good attorneys ousted by Alberto Gonzales are still ousted. All the cronies he installed are STILL THERE. Now, with Mukasey, Giuliani's close friend and business partner, responsible for counting the votes, i.e., caging voters, purging voter rolls, baking the election, and McCain's advanced age and precarious health, this is how they will install Giuliani as the next president.
I'm betting on it.
Please, run with Giuliani.
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