Charlie Gibson: Isn't it unfair that John McCain can't raise as much as Obama?
By John Amato Friday Jun 20, 2008 8:30pm
McCain's Media begins its march against Obama. I've been saying they will support McCain in the general all along. Listen to the tone of Gibson's voice as he makes a strong statement against Obama's money advantage over the uninspiring John McCain. Something that never seemed to bother the Villagers before. Heck, Bush 41 and the Saudis look really cool as friends... He feels oh so awful about the fact that McCain is getting trounced in the fundraising department by Obama. The poor little guy who makes sure the media has plenty of doughnuts on his campaign bus. I'm sure that if McCain had the online support that Obama has---the story would be something like. "Will John McCain's excellent fundraising advantage lead him straight to the oval office?" They would be amazed at his fundraising prowess. John McCain: The Internet Maverick!
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"Let me ask you a question about basic fairness: People in this country like to believe that people play on a level playing field and that a campaign will be about ideas and personality; if you start with that much more money, is it basically fair?"
There was real emotion in his voice when ABC News anchor Charles Gibson used Friday night's newscast to stand up for little-guy McCain against online-fundraising powerhouse Barack Obama.
To me, the good news is that a network anchor was giving prominence to the plight of underfinanced candidates.
The bad news is that it's taken years to see an anchor make such a stand. And that Gibson (like other media voices in recent days) is making his stand for "fairness" against a candidate who has attracted 3 million contributions from 1.5 million donors giving an average donation of $91. In other words, against a candidate who is arguably less beholden to big-moneyed interests than McCain.
Thanks to Silent Patriot for the video and screen cap. Full transcript below the fold with a little added tasty treat:
CHARLES GIBSON: Barack Obama announced today that he and Hillary Clinton will campaign together next Friday, their first joint appearance since he secured the nomination. The announcement comes a day after Obama said he is not going to take public campaign financing, a decision which has drawn a great deal of criticism, and our chief Washington correspondent, George Stephanopoulos, is joining us again to talk about this.
By opting out of the public financing system, George, he could have, depending on how much he raises, two times, three times, four times as much money as John McCain. What's he going to do with all that money?
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, we're already starting to see what he intends to do with this kind of money. Just today, just yesterday in fact, Barack Obama bought his first general election ads. I'm going to put up a map showing the states in which he's bought those ads: 18 states overall, Charlie 14 of those 18 states are states won by George Bush in 2004. If he's able to continue to raise money over the Internet, as he expects to over these next several months, it is conceivable that Senator Obama will be able to campaign and advertise in Republican states right up to election day.
GIBSON: George, I've heard a lot of political analysis today about his decision, but let me ask you a question about basic fairness. People in this country like to believe that people play on a level playing field and that a campaign will be about ideas and personality. If you start with that much more money, is it basically fair?
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, I guess we're going to find out in this election whether people believe that or not, Charlie. You know, this public financing system where each candidate, presidential candidate, has the same amount of money has only been in place since 1976. So for a little over 30 years right now. This will be the first time ever that a presidential candidate in the general election will not be taking that public money, but we've seen the system erode over the last several years. Americans are checking off that contribution to the public financing system by fewer and fewer numbers every single year, and in the primaries, over the last three election cycles, we've seen candidates in both parties opt out of the system as well.
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This is a joke, right?
That has to be the first time i ever heard a tv broadcaster ask that question. I thought he was goning to cry. I had to stifle a laugh.
Where was that question after the Supreme Court Decision in 2000?
Don't worry, Cindy the C*nt, will pick up the tab.
Sire, Obama got most of his money from "little-guy" donors, more than a million of them. But isn't it unfair that McLame only has a tenth the number of people avidly supporting him as does Obama? Shouldn't Obama be forced to give up some of his supporters -- maybe a half million of them -- to McCain?
And what's going to happen in November? won't it be unfair that Obama gets to be called Mr. President just because he got so many more votes than McSame? I mean, how can we figure it to be a fair election if one guy, just because he can raise vastly greater numbers of votes, wins?
Gibson is a fool, as is his sidekick, Snuffleuppagus.
Allow me to be the first to say Suck it, Charlie!
votingvet @ 4:
I meant "Sure"!
Damn! I thought for a moment i was royalty! :)
How is it not "basically fair"?
John McCain has an equal opportunity to collect funds in the exact same manner as Obama, should he choose that route.
Disingenuous much?
These two will make up for it by giving McCain 90 minutes of free advertising, if they are allowed to moderate a debate. Sometimes I wonder if they love America as much as I do.
Nowhere near as much, but you can bet they love their jobs and their income.
What seems to get lost here, is that money does not guarantee success. Mitt Romney has more money than God - and look how much it helped him in the Republic primary.
Your headline still says "John" Gibson. I believe it's "Charlie" Gibson.
Obama had better think about his fundraising as he tacks to the right as in the FISA capitulation. That "trust me, I'll watch it" line just doesn't work for me.
goo observation. though it is charlie gibson. even though he's sounding like john gibson.
"John" Gibson?
Charlie Gibson. Or was that intentional?
Oops, I just made another "unfair" contribution to the Obama campaign.
it is Charles Gibson...and he is a shill...his debate performance was just a precursor...
cry me a river....after 20 years of Republicans killing Democrats in the money race...Charles Gibson has now found his diety....I hope Jon Stewart and Keith Olbermann skewer him...I mean skewer him...
This is what we are up against...and Obama isn't helping by listening to the DC chattering class...
"My name is John McCain and I am a conservative. I want to cut public spending and taxes whilst at the same time I expect the public to pay 80 million dollars to fund my campaign for president, and my opponents. Also, whilst we're on the subject of conservatism my friends, I believe firmly in states rights, whilst at the same time I want to amend the constitution so I can overrule gay marriage in California."
Basic fairness involves Charles Gibson in a soundproof basement and a knobbly fist-sized dildo smeared with carborundum
play on a level playing field ....we tried that against you guys in 2000 and 2004 don't tell us about level playing field..........wow
All is fair in war.
The Republicans threw away the rule Book, and now they want fair? No. Such. Thing.
to be fair, it's Charlie Gibson, right? No one listens to John Gibson except for radio listeners anymore...
Oh, Charlie. Your just bitter because you and Georgie poo will receive zero access from the Obama Administration due to your freak show debate. I'm sure you could find some guns and religion to cling to.
Smitty @ 13:
Agreed. There's nothing to stop me from one-upping him and the Dems by voting a straight (R) ticket. If we're going to hell, let's get it over with quickly.
McCain Agrees to Forego ‘527s,’ in Favor of ‘666s’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1941
Is if fair Charlie? Holy crap, you right wing shill. I despise you.
Is there a bigger piece of fecal material doing the "news" than Charlie Gibson? While he gives short shift to the real issues facing Americans, he finds time to undermine the best hope this country has had in decades. I beg every reasonable citizen to be vigilent, the power of the Corporate MSM may undermine the peoples choice yet again. We,re already facing a long way back to the principles that made once made us great.
FOX Lite (ABC) is scared.
there is no way this election should be close but it probably will.........the bush administration have been serving the kool-aid all along. scott mcClellen exposed that they have been using propaganda and it hasn't stopped.......barack sees it as do many of us.....i hope the rest of the country gets it...the republicans showed barack what their strategy is and it's dirty. he'll plenty of money to clean it up.
Wow. Asshat, just wow. Let me ask you a question about basic fairness, Gibson, you stupid shit: People in this country like to believe that people voting will have their votes counted, each and every one, to a person. So if SCOTUS tells a state to stop counting votes, and as a result, the candidate who was not elected by the people ends up as the office holder, is it basically fair?”
Uh, not to be too obvious but, how much more money did President Stupid have in 2000 and 2004? Where was your outrage then Gibson? Gibson has always been a lightweight but, now he's an absolute GOP shill !!! This is the same moron that thought the press asked "All the right Questions " leading up to IRAQ!!!Join O'Reilly , Hannity and all the other right wingers in crying on Nov.5th.
Wow - is Charles Gibson a knob, or what? Looks to me like his inability to ask coherent questions has continued since the "debate".
Wow. Just wow. What a knob.
Just when I've thought I've seen it all. However, its pretty clear where Gibson's dinner hangs.
For cying out loud GIBSON and STEPHANOPOULOS. If I remember correctly you two also hosted that idiot and despicable debate in Philadelphia.
It looks to me like you guys need to stay as far away from each other as possible, because when you don't, your IQ levels head for the basement.
lara logan had it right! gag me with a spoon!!!!
Are these guys for real? All those years that Democrats didn't nearly have as much money as the Repugs, and these idiots are defending McCain. What a bunch of tools.
a white, WASP son and grandson of admirals vs. son of a kenyan goatherd raised by a single mom...
fair?
lol wtf omg are kidding me?
I have a nickel I'd be happy to donate to Senator McCain - if he's willing to take a check and hold it a week so I can make sure it's covered.
Well, I for one would love to see Obama keep with public financing for two reasons.
One, the voices that will be in front of Obama between now and November will make a difference in how he makes decisions. He will need to spend more time with the big money in order to finance himself, which grants more access to those that can afford to give him contributions. I understand that this won't ultimately determine policy, but I am certain that many of us have complained about the power of money in the political process and this feels very much like what we are fighting against.
Second, the money issue will play into the republican narrative of this election. "McCain is a straight-talking outsider who has never taken a dollar of special interest money and will oppose all earmarks. Republicans are change." I know it's crap. Its utter nonsense, but it might sell, and Obama outspending his opponent by 2 or 3 to 1 will add emphasis to this talking point.
Gibson's argument about fairness will have legs as well. I know this is not the whole story. 527s are not included in this equation and I can just imagine the "Americans for Christian America" 527 that forms to fight the secret Muslim and the woman who hates America. I even agree with this, but as a political move I wonder how it will play.
This reminds of the boy who ran around and punched kids in the nose. He was so proud of this that he did it every day. Then one day he came running and screaming to his mother, tears running down his face.
"What's wrong honey?"
"H-he hit me back!!"
Charles Gibson is a pathetic little tool. Watching this clip gave me a good laugh. It's gonna be fun to watch his facial expressions in the next few months. It will be pure pathos.
Is it fair that Michelle Obama doesn't have her own plane for her husband to use on the campaign trail? *shedding tear of sympathy*
but can the obama campagin really complain about lack of fairness?
it seems to me that obama has been getting plenty of fair coverage, taking into consideration that:
a) he assured us that he really supports israel, no matter what.
b) he really supports the new FISA bill
c) he really supports the health insurance companies
shall i go on?
i am certainly no supporter of mccain, but i'm not going to perpetuate this illusion that obama isn't getting enough coverage, whether positive or negative.
how about the coverage of nader/gonzalez? where is that? have we heard anything about their platform?
gwen @ 43:
that's a good one.........i wish they would look into that more
Isn't it unfair that John Gibson can be so dumb and bias but still make all that money on television?
Let me ask you this George.
Is it fair that you and I mindlessly shill for the soul-less architect of the Iraq occupation?A monstrous greed driven nightmare that has vaporized the bones of thousands of screaming women and children?
I have often wondered if Charlie is really tapped into the stories he talks about once he is removed from a teleprompter.
Charlie reminds me of the weather person you find on local news stations who aren't actually meteorologists and pretend as if they are an expert on the topic, but in reality, they are just good at reading and pointing while on TV.
Personally, I never thought he had the goods to be the top news guy on ABC. Recently when I saw that Today Show interview with Charlie, Brian Williams and Katie Couric, it was clear to me that only one person sitting there has the gravitas to be an evening news anchor.
Hey Gibson you freak, isn't it unfair that 50 million Americans have ZERO health insurance???
Robert @ 12:
Thanks...
Marcus Aurelius @ 25:
Nothing stopping me from voting for Nader who in my heart I trust more. When in hell, at least I can say I did my part...I can't believe this is really happening to us. You're right, we should get it over quickly..whooppee we're all gonna die.
Oh for crying out loud, Charles Gibson, are you related to Josh Gibson?
Charlie(not much different than John) Gibson--just another Republican tool in the "fair and balanced" media. Now we know how McSame will win...
McCain's upcoming events from his site. Note the scale of contributions for the Finance Events: 50K per couple, etc. That vs. 1.5 million small-scale contributors...
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Calendar/
What do you expect from Gibson and Stephenoupolis .Someone tell Gibson to look up the word Democracy , oh that's right , he doesn't believe in or support Democracy , I forgot .
Unfair? Oh boo-f*cking-hoo.
Japandrew @ 55:
pandering to those who want the permanent bush tax cuts
Oops, can't comment now, gotta go give Obama 50 bucks.
Try not to cry, Chuck.
Geez, exactly how many old men, other than McNugget, ar eyelling at clouds these days?
bryancri @ 45:
We'll never hear msm coverage of Nader/Gonzales, but Rachel Maddow yesterday when she hosted Gregorys Race4theWhiteHouse mentioned that he has 6% of the national polls. This is pretty good considering the total blackout of coverage.
This is a great piece by Matt Gonzales
http://www.counterpunch.org/gonzalez02292008.html
Charlie ought to treat himself to a new wardrobe and a brain!
Poor guy, he should have had the chance to steal the election like all the other Republicans. Now it won't be close enough. It just isn't fair!
Since when have Republics and their media lapdancers become concerned about fairness. Give me a break.
Never heard a word out of Charlie when in the past the repugs
out raise the Dems 2 to 1!
Charlie
GoebbelsGibson, MainStreamMutherfucker plutocorpofascist tool demonstrates why his fake gravitass rakes in the big bucks, while Stephie tosses the salad on the side...False Dmitriy @ 59:
Thanks for reminding. I need to send Obama some more money.
“Let me ask you a question about basic fairness: People in this country like to believe that people play on a level playing field and that a campaign will be about ideas and personality; if you start with that much more money, is it basically fair?”
This sounds about right. When his candidate has all the money, that's the free market and it's liberal and downright unamerican to question it. When they're at a disadvantage, he cries foul.
Soon he'll be calling for the government to step in and help out with some affirmative action!
This is the same Republican syncophant that said they were "losing the audience" in their laughable sham of a "debate." Keep it up, Charlie. Your flippant comment will become your reality soon.
And get this, pal---Newsweek has Obama 15 points ahead. Your candidate and your corrupt party suck, period, except to the delusional 25 percenters who would vote for anybody Rush tells them to. That isn't fairness, Upchuckles, that's the voice of the public that you choose to intentionally ignore because you are a partisan hack. You neocons got what you deserve. Enjoy your voyage to obscurity.
Idiots, it's unfair that MCCAIN CAN'T RAISE AS MUCH MONEY? Maybe it's because of his message.
Didn't see Charlie boy whining when it was the Democrats getting the short end of the fund-raising stick. Didn't see him complaining about the K-Street project. Charles Gibson, Republican shill.
Charlie's debate performance should disqualify him from weighing in on any political matter. Charlie, you flunked. We don't care what you think. But, just as a thought. This is called an election contest. It is a contest to raise the most money and get the most votes. The person that does that wins. Each candidate has the same opportunity to solicit funds and votes on their merits. The fact that McCain is lagging is not Obama's fault or the fault of his supporters. But, it could be said to be the fault of McCain.
Survival of the fittest/ free market enterprise in action. Funny that the republican'ts now want to turn us into a socialist system simply because they are behind in fundraising.
Republicans have been fighting against level playing fields for years, now that they're at a disadvantage, suddenly it matters?
Let me get this straight.
The government shrinking conservatives are upset because Obama refuses to use TAYPAYER MONEY (read YOUR TAX DOLLARS) and instead raise his own money given voluntarily by citizens who WANT him to be president.
BWAHAAAAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know it's set up when Georgie doesn't respond with, " Well, the real question is. where are the McCain supporters?"
Come on Charlie, we just want to talk!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFjPry9wJIE
motorfingaz @ 47:
From above:
"People in this country like to believe that people play on a level playing field and that a campaign will be about ideas and personality. If you start with that much more money, is it basically fair?"
Oh I thought he was referring to the level mediocrity of MSM hacks such as himself...Charlie, your blandness rises high and proud, like a dandelion sticking above a freshly-mowed putting green.
Suck it up, shill-boy. Better get some big guns working on that stock portfolio of yours...
I don't know if Gibson is a shill or just someone that's not too bright or both. I don't watch television, so my only real exposure to Gibson is on C&L. Still, what I have heard from him makes me think that he's not very intelligent. If, as an anchor, all he does most of the time is read from a teleprompter, it wouldn't surprise me a bit that he can carry that simple task off well, but that when called upon to do much more than that, he reveals himself as rather shallow.
Who said life is fair? Life isn't fair.
Go Obama!
The field's only level when your guy's winning, right Charlie? Perhaps you righties should have had a better candidate. God knows, you've got all our money. You make me sick. Sanctimonious creep.
George Steponthepopulous
9/10's of today's "journalists" should be led straight to the gallows for betraying their professions with such hubris and treason against their mother-land.
charles gibson should stand behind only rush, hannity and krystol.
mcBrane @82, that is priceless and I salute you. Most excellent!
when did you ever hear a republican worry about the playing field being leveled?
Its always been we got more money then you so go shut up.
When you have people like gibson whos whole livelyhood is dependent upon being able to lie with impunity and now after they thought they rigged the game by having the supreme court rule that money= free speach, and now enough individual Americans are putting their money on line to buy their own politicians they are really getting panic stricken.
Do you think they are finally starting to realize thjat being such lying fools is going to come back and bite them in the pocketbook?
It would only be fair if this scumbag got to live under so bridge somewhere along with all the other America hating bush supporters!
ABC. Not just disgusting.FUCKING DISGUSTING.
I have been addicted to the evening news for 50 years. It's a hard habit to break. However, Gibson's embarrassing debate moderator performance and now this have at least convinced me to wean myself from ABC for good. I'll be rehabbing at PBS until I can safely watch the TV again without being compelled to watch "The News". So long ABC News and Charles Gibson.
Noam Chomsky has pointed out that, while there may be very little difference between the two parties, a lot of lives hang in the balance in that difference. Voting for what you perceive as the lesser of two evils is not very satisfying, but to abandon that responsibility to vote for the lesser of two evils is to turn your back on all those lives who hang in the balance.
Will Obama end the Iraq War sooner than McCain? Almost certainly. And every day means more lives saved. Therefore, helping McCain get elected, by not voting for Obama, means more people die.
Will Obama bring about more health coverage for Americans than McCain? Almost certainly. Which means people who might have died for lack of health care (especially early detection of treatable disease) might not die. Therefore, helping McCain get elected, by not voting for Obama, means more people die.
So before you make a stand and vote on your "principles", be sure you understand what that choice means in real, human terms.
Wouldn't a level playing field mean reassigning about half of the media to the Democratic side?
I got to thinking . . . it just doesn't seem fair when a candidate gets fewer votes and loses the election. What kind of message does that send?
It only becomes a problem when the black man has more money than the white man. What kind of world is that? /snark
The question should be why is it so damned expensive. The money spent by all candidates borders on obscenity. We need campaign finance reform. Who knows how much is being contributed to each candidate and by whom and for what end? Until that piece is lifted from the equation corruption will remain. I am sure that this high stakes way of running elections does not take place to this degree in other civilized countries.
Insist the candidates can only run for 6 months out. Have voting day be a Saturday. Place a premium on how much can be spent. Insist the networks give equal time. In other words, as simplistic as this may sound, let the voter decide not some heavy handed corporation who is playing the quid pro quo game.
Uh, they both started with the exact same amount of money....$0.
charlie gibson is a morning guy... he should've stayed there.
the projection and transference displayed by the fright-wingers is incredible...
it's almost like they actually believe it too... oblivious...
stosselitaphobic @ 24:
This should win the "Comment of the year" award.
I feel really really sorry for John McCain. Somebody should give him millions of dollars. Oh, Cindy already has, sorry.
I feel sorry for him because he is almost as dumb as George W. Bush, he is a white male, and yet Americans may not want another dumb dyslexic white male Republican with no conscience to run the country further into the ground another four years And probably start more wars or at least continue to screw up the two we have going. I feel sorry for him also because the Republicans already used the Supreme Court once to get one dumbass Republican into office and they probably won't do it again.
Gibson didn't bother mentioning 527 organizations that will be used primarily by the Republicans to smear Obama. These 527's raise tons of money. Obama has discouraged the use of the 527's in his campaign. Charles doesn't this even up the score so that the poor little McCain feller can compete? Charles, we know you have a soft spot for Gramps McCain, but he'll get by.
Charlie, George and the rest of these so called journalist have been bought off. They have a warranty on them. Until that warranty runs out we're going to being hearing these kind of lame ass questions and remarks from these jokers.
This is a joke, yeah? "basic fairness"....? Doh, what the f*ck are you talking about charlie moron?
Poor mcAncient is such a loser, it's hard to get the greedy right wing to contribute to a "sure loser". Suck it up charlie....you pathetic scum bag.
Wow. Just wow... CHarlie Gibson is the most uniformed newsman outside of Fox.
McCain has More money than Obama
It's just that Obama has many more small donations from individuals. Like a magnitude of 10000 more.
Put up Gibson's information, ad make him spend the time on ABCNews to talk about the actual truth of the campaign donations, not the BS he prefers to spew.
Joe Max @ 88:
that needed to be repeated over at ThinkProgress...
ain't copy'n'paste great?! ... thanks.
What he fails to mention, McCain is getting an unseen hundreds of million dollars, which do not go to his campaign, but to groups like Swiftboaters. They are in turn using it to run a second campaign against Obama. In essence, barack is fighting a two front battle. The agreement he spoke of to McCain, had a major clause, that McCain would shut down the 527's. Naturally, he refused. I suspect he control and/or clout to influence these groups.
If Gibson really cares that much, I fully expect him to cry about the unfairness that is inherent in this country's electoral process towards third party candidates.
Until then, STFU and deal with reality.
What? Why don't you love America, Charlie? Love it or leave it!!!
We'll put a Boot up your ass and shove some Freedom toast down your throat.
Gibson has always been an Idiot so you cant expect much from him.
On the other hand anyone that would let Gison infuence who they voted for
is probably stupid enough to vote for Grampa Munster Translation McCain.
The fundraising is an election of sorts. It measures how fed up we are with these losers running our country. (/me remembers to go give Obama some cash)
Maybe, if McLame had as much to offer as Obama, he'd get the same amount of donations. The conservatives are always criticizing liberals for promoting "self-esteem" and not allowing anyone to lose because it might hurt their psyche. Now that it's their darling who can't cut it, suddenly the system is unfair. What a bunch of whiny litle crybabies.
Why doesn't someone ask Charlie Gibson these questions? Why can't you talk about the issues? Why don't you understand that when a major TV anchor says they suport one canidate over another, people will have trouble trusting their judgement thereafter? Most importantly, why do you deny opinions and facts that differ from your own? Do you really feel that superior to everybody else?
I think if anyone asked Gibson those questions, his head would explode from trying to come up with answers.
This is the funniest thing I've read in weeks.
The surrealism of this comment is astounding.
Say it DID matter - which it doesn't under our current system - Since WHEN did re-PIG-lics care - OR EVEN KNOW - anything about FAIR?
I'll go cry a few crocodile tears for McSame though - just to make them feel better.
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All is fair in love and war and politics ain't love!
Obama '08!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you think it's fair that Obama has a double digit-plus lead over McCain in the early part of the general election? Wouldn't it be more fair to handicap Obama, since clearly he is the better candidate?
Thank God the blogs watch these scrubs so I don't have to.
Well
JohnCharlie Gibson sure has outed himself as at least ideologically conservative. So much for the lib'rul media. (rolls eyes)-- Rob
what's unfair is that these insufferable twits are propped up on a mega-soapbox, from which they parrot the company line, into homes w/out "internets."
Steve Bucholz @ 28:
While I agree that Charlie is a douche, I don't get this whole meme about Obama being the "people's choice". Obama along with McCain were both chosen by the media which is why I was pissed that all the other Dem candidates didn't get a fair shake.
The media was basically slobbering over Hillary and the horse race with Barack even before the primaries, they were always referred to as the front runners, during the debates did anyone notice how pretty much the whole focus was on only Hillary AND Barack? While McCain's candidacy had been declared dead by the media, let's be honest, he's been one of their favorites for a while, though for the republick nomination they were really really hoping for ghoulie or mittens and totally underestimated the fundies disapproval of them, but once that got settled I don't think they were too upset with McCain as evidenced by their usually positive coverage of him.
On the dem side they basically got one of the "frontrunners" they picked for us. Meh.
Isn't it UNFAIR that one man can live in a mansion while another lives in the streets? Isn't it UNFAIR that one man can throw away enough food in a day to feed a family of four in the "third world"? Isn't it unfair that one man can get all of his medical need attended to on the public dime and someone else has to die because of an infected tooth?
Welcome to AMERICA Chuckles! This is what we have become.
George, I’ve heard a lot of political analysis today about his decision, but let me ask you a question about basic fairness. People in this country like to believe that people play on a level playing field and that a campaign will be about ideas and personality. If you start with that much more money, is it basically fair?
These corporate shills said nothing of the sort when the gap between the rich and the rest of us grew and grew under this criminal administration...Cry me a phucking river...Is it fair when 70% of the tax cuts went to the richest 2% of Americans who didn't need it? Was it not fair then when the Republicans were able to use so much money to outspend the DeMOCRATS in virtually every election cycle until now? Now that the tables are turned and your GOP masters are in danger, you play the "is it fair" card?
I watched one of those "Mayday" shows the other day about an airliner that crashed into the ocean at night because the onboard computer was fried and kept giving erroneous altitude and speed data to the pilots . This is the perfect metaphor for what we are seeing now. Gibson and the rest of these pricks aren't stupid . IT'S THEIR JOB to give bullshit opinion and confusing spin to the "pilots" of the electorate, even to the point of some pundits claiming the "liberal media" (ha !) have been going easy on Obama .
The hope is to put out enough garbage out there that the plane crashes .
Charlie Gibson has to be one of the most clueless and stupidist people on the face of the earth. I hope that he will bow down to the "God of the Monumentally Stupid" and ask for forgiveness. Because he is so monumentally stupid, I frankly doubt that he will do so. That given, it doesn't make Charlie Gibson less stupid.
He is, without doubt, one of the very stupidest people on earth (ranking up there with Douglas Feith, whom General Abrams called the "stupidest fucking asshole on earth.")
Charlie Gibson deserves to be ranked with the biggest assholes on earth. Total tool of the Republican party. Total jerk.
Oh my gods, I think I am going to be ill!
I'm allergic to stupidity.
I thought Amerikkka, espcially Republican Amerikkka, was all about free markets, survival of the fittest, having the competitve edge, innovative thinking, supply and demand. The problem is, what the GOP have supplied there is scant demand for: no one wants their product.
I find it interesting that Charlie Gibson has all of a sudden starting caring about fairness and issues.
The fact of the matter is that Obama's donors are the public and are far more representative of the public than the very few people that tick off that box on their taxes. He hasn't and won't take soft money. This is just sour grapes from McCain and the McCain Press because he's been running almost on empty for the last 2 years. His private jet and his estimated 200 millions dollars in worth are all of sudden out of the picture? We know the GOP is coming and we know they will hit below the belt.
as O´reilly would say if the situation were reversed "this is socialism!"
"Born in Evanston, Illinois, Gibson moved to Washington, D.C., when he was 12. He attended the prestigious Sidwell Friends School, a well-known private college-preparatory school in the city."
Nothing beats a level playing field... right Charlie?
This, along with their debate? in Philly, woulld be perfect for an ad against the unfair corporate owned republican media. It could also focus the publics attention on regulating these people, and breaking up monopolies like Rupert Murdoch's.
Beat them to death with images of their own hypocricy. Do it with humor, and destroy the laughable "liberal media" myth the corporate talking heads have established over the last 30 years!
The time is right, will the democrats blow this golden opportunity? Win, don't whine.
Is it basically fair. What a dumb question. Of course it's fair. Who's stopping McCain from raising money over the internet? That he has been able to elicit little more than a stifled yawn in response is not Barack Obama's fault, I'm sorry.
It's sad. I used to like Charlie Gibson.
There is not one day passes without McCain makes a 'flip flopping' statement,but with major media outlets and television networks looking the other way...
On Friday, major television networks were on the attack against Obama accusing him with 'flip-flopping', over the issue of election's money.
MSNBC spent a good time on Friday talking to pundits how a big crime Obama committed by choosing not to take public funding,same with CNN and Fox networks.
Lou Doubs of CNN spent sometime questioning Obama sincerety...bla bla bla..
In the evening on Friday ABC News, ABC put on their TV screen..in big letters..'FLIP..FLOP..FLAP"..and the attack began on Obama...
To my surprise, with all McCain's 'Flip Flopping' ABC chose to leave him alone and look the other way...
I believe the media is biased...and the only hope left for people searching for the truth is the internet...
Well actually it is Barack Obama's fault - by being the more interesting and inspiring candidate than John McCain, he does tend to suck the positive interest in his direction and away from the other candidate.
on the news hour one of the talking heads said that by not taking the pledge obama made the right decision because the democratic party has raised less money than the rethugs ( is that right?) also there are the outside parties that will use their money to present their side of the issue and those are mainly rethugs.
then there are the chicken littles that say it's the third sign of the end of days for obama not to agree to the pledge that the other side keeps skirting anyway Mccrazy has broken how many FEC rules to date?? why do you expect him to keep his word he doesn't even remember what his word was from one day to the next.
When I see Mccrazy on the tv I turn on the mute why listen to what he'll say he'll change it by the end of his speech
Gibson's raised the quetion with regard to Obama's money mainly collected thru internet from small contributors in the millions:
Gibson :"What's he going to do with all this money.."?
Such question indicates how dumb Charlie is.
A 10 years old kid knows what Obama wants the money for...!!
Why Charlie is silent about PACS and corporate money...?!!
Freeze the corporate media out of the new Obama Administration. All they will do is carry water for the right wing and try and undermine any progressive steps taken by the next administration. These celebrities' careers and wealth is based on access. Eliminate their access and the stranglehold of the corporate media is over. The American people can and will find other sources for their information that are far more credible than the corporate media.
Coming up after the break, our special correspondent, Nash McCabe, discusses the fairness of campaign financing.
It was so unfair for Al Gore to get all those votes in 2000. Fortunately the SCOTUS stepped in and set things right! But who will stop the people from unfairly preferring Obama by wide margins in this election?
Crybabies.
LMAO What a TOOL, Liberal Media at it again, this is the reason I don't watch TV anymore.
Maybe the most insulting part of the quote was "People in this country like to believe that people play on a level playing field and that a campaign will be about ideas and personality." This is just pandering to the idiot masses, trying to make them sound MUCH more elevated than they actually are. If we follow through with his assertion that Americans want a level playing field and starting with varying amounts of money is unfair we would not be living in a capitalist system, would we? I think the average American cares about fairness only as it relates to himself or herself. This pandering makes me sick. Reminds me of John McCain's line, repeated ad nauseum, about how he's not disappointed in Obama breaking his commitment to McCain but to the American people. And the idiot masses are probably just lapping this all up.
Damn all those millions of people who reached into their pockets and gave Obama their hard earned cash! Don't they know thats unfair!
*Sounds of right wing pundits sobbing*
It's just not fair I tells ya....
So all of a sudden "trickle down" isn't a working theory?
Probably a lot of "angry black women" giving money to Obama.
You go, girl!
Translation: WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
Hey, if they can't handle the free market of the Internet, they can just suck it.
So will it be basically unfair when Obama gets more votes than McCain in the general election? I mean... what's he gonna do with all those votes?
God help these
networksGOPer/neocon propganda organs if the FCC is ever reformed and returned to integrity.I am surprised that charles gibson and his buddy, george stsphanopoulas after asking rediculous questions at the debate on Flag pin wearing? Is obama more patriotic then his former pastor? by the the way obama's pastor was A U.S. marine. Which service did Givens and Stepen. serve in? Givens can ask if it's unfair for obama to raise more money then john mcCain? In my opinion it is after two stolen elections in 2000 bush vs gore supreme court rule put bush in office. 2004 Kerry was cheated by the repub's. Now I guess givens wants the supreme court to say obama is geting to much money and it's not fair to john mcCain.
I wonder if this ass hat thinks it's unfair that the U.S. spends more money on weapons than the entire world combined.
The most horrendous thing about all this is that as inane as the entire Repug community is---and I include EVERYTHING,... every-single-thing!!! from the MSM to Anything-Remotely-Repug-Or-Otherwise-Related-In-Any-Way-Shape-Or-Form-However-Slight---- the odds are that McLame will actually become the next president. It chills me to know that clown will actually win and for one simple reason....the Dems and Libs are still not a fully formed cohesive threat! Not yet. I can only hope we can get our entire act together before election time. Otherwise, I see McLame as a bonafide, 100% repugnant shoo-in as the next president. Obama's chance are slim only because his own party STILL doesn't have all their shit in one bag. What's it gonna take!?
Lets not forget that ABC is the home to Chuck Gibson...owned by Disney. Corporate Conservatism to the peril of us all. Would love to see the status quo continued for there own Corporate Greed. I think it is clearly apparent that McCain gets them closer to that greedy calculatinon. ABC and Disney are moving they way of Murdoch and Fox if they are already not there.
Gibson is a Republic (sic) and is rightly nervous that his party is headed down the same path as the Whigs they replaced in the 1850's.
I do not want to see one party rule, whether Democratic or Republic (sic), but I will not weep if that pack of evildoers (lol) ends up on the trash heap.
Prior to Disney's takeover of ABC, they actually had a relatively honest and straightforward anchor, the late Peter Jennings. ABC was always dead-last in the ratings, but they were not the conservative shills they are now. Perhaps it was due to the fact that Jennings was a Canadian, and Canada is shouldering it's part of the war on terror in Afghanistan where it should be.
Stop hiring second rate weather-readers like Gibson, Brit Hume, Steve Doocy and Katie Couric and go for tough journalists like Jack Cafferty or Glenn Greenwald.
Better yet, go for Michael Ware or Lara Logan who have actual time "in country", as Dan Rather did in Vietnam. They could be the Ernie Pyles of today.
Attila the Appeaser, Trollop Despot @ 131:
Nash McCabe? I'd forgotten about that fruitloop.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/04/18/jon-stewart-eviscerates-abcs-ha...
Anheuser-Busch's and MICHALOB political action committee was among McCain's earliest donors. Cindy McCain's father, James Hensley, and other Hensley & Co. executives gave so much the Federal Election Commission ordered McCain to give some of it back. McCain's campaign used Hensley office equipment such as computers and copiers, and Cindy McCain personally paid some of the campaign's bills.
MORE MCCAIN? MORE BUSCH?
This 4th of July...... LET'S HAVE A BECKS or a SAM ADAMS.... (anyone know if they are GOP tainted products)
they are BOTH bought and paid for by corporate interests
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