Yellowcake Uranium Found In Iraq, Bush Was Right! Well, Not So Much
This article from the AP was posted yesterday, reporting the sale and transport of 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium from Iraq to Canada. Some of the leading right wing blogs were quick to hail the find as a significant victory for the Bush administration and proof of Saddam's WMD program, but as Daniel De Groot at Open Left Points out, their celebrations may be a bit premature, if not dishonest:
I noted last night that a supply of uranium from Iraq had been successfully moved to Montreal in secrecy.
If you check into this, you'll quickly find that the uranium a) was not weapons grade and b) was well known to the UN and IAEA and was being stored legally by Saddam's government. It was legally in Iraq according to international law.
I wondered if the right wing echo chamber would use this as "proof" that the WMD claims were true after all. I got even better than I hoped, as not only do they use it that way, but they reveal how dishonest they are by the way they have done this.
Top recommended post at Redstate:
Yellowcake uranium found in Iraq, Saddam's legacy, Bush was right!
Well...not so much.
What is the purpose of non-weapon grade yellow cake
Angel food frosting?
ysbaddaden @ 1:
8th grade science fair project.
The right wing bloggers must be pumping overtime -- with spittle and jizm flying all over keyboard and screen. Yuk.
They live in fear and I am convinced that they need fear to get a woody.
The 1981 Niger sale produced the forged documents used in the run up to the invasion. Unfortunately the Italians exposed those documents because Cheney's twits forgot to change the letterhead, which was from the 1981 Nigerian administration. Just one of the fabrications we were given to whip us into a war frenzy.
OMG this story again? it was pre-1991 non-weapons grade used for nuclear reactors. The UN knew about it. Jesus god thiere is no dumb like republican dumb.
And to state the obvious . . . IF any WMDs were found is there anyone on planet Earth that doesn't believe Bush and Cheny wouldn't be screaming "told ya so"? I read about the iraq yellow cake at least 1 years ago. God these people are morons.
Is Canada in cahoots with illegal activity now? How long till we're the fourth partner in the axis-of-evil? Invade, invade.
Honestly, if the stuff is in Montreal now, does anyone think it was inteded to manufacture weapons. I mean, we are NATO members. If there was anything fishy...
Big non-story.
The point was not that it was sold illegally to Canada, but legally and openly under the supervision of US forces. The story was that it was held under guard until Baghdad was secure enough to move it, and then sold to a friendly ally for friendly purposes. You can be disgusted with the implication that it was WMD uranium, but don't add your own ignorance to the mix. Nobody was implying anything funny about Canada.
We all know that this will be in the MSM for the next two weeks. And just like the non-existant Al Gore statement about being the "creator of the internet", no MSM outlet will look further than the fact that it "vindicates the President and Condi's statements" even though it could never lead to a "smoking gun like a mushroom cloud". They report just enough to make it a talking point among those who want to support Bush and who tend to only read screaming headlines.
Oh, they will also balance it by saying that the Democrats agree that there was yellowcake uranium in Iraq, but they don't think that was important.
But why are they moving it now? Would this stuff become dangerous when (not if) we start nuking Iran? Everything this regime does smells...
2 I Like Pie Says: ysbaddaden @ 1:
What is the purpose of non-weapon grade yellow cake
Angel food frosting?
8th grade science fair project.
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Like the Pepto-Bismol spewing volcano?
Guys, Yellowcake is Uranium pentoxide. That is the naturally occuring _ore_ of uranium. Its how it is separated from the surrounding rock. Its not only not "weapons grade", its not even the refined metal, far less undergone isotope enrichment.
To enrich the isotopes, you need to make it Uranium Hexafloride, (not for use on teeth...), which is about the only known gaseous form of uranium.
Once refined... and possibly enriched, there is absolutely no reason in the world to turn it back into the ore of uranium.
Yellowcake is used commercially to make a urine-colored yellow glass that no one in their right mind wants....
If this uranium transfer to Canada was such a big deal, wouldn't the Bush administration have talked it up in 2002, 2003, 2004...? Wouldn't they have used this as "proof" of WMDs instead of the "16 words" claim about uranium from Africa?
The willingness of the right wing nutjobs to cite this as "proof" that Bush was correct is grounded either ignorance or dishonesty. Given their previous track record, I think we know which.
Yellowcake uranium found in Iraq, Saddam’s legacy, Bush was right!
Iraq crashed into the World Trade Center.
Didn't see anyone talking about the fact that Iraqis were emptying barrels for use as water storage containers-low levels of radiation but still not a good idea. Just one more way we fu*ked up- we were too busy guarding the Oil Ministry to pay attention to museums or anything else. The Hague is missing about 15 people.
I'm more worried about the pink cakes
Found in every American urinal.
I can already hear Hannity screaming "I TOLD YOU SO!!!" tomorrow on the radio.
I'll bet Rush gets it on his show too.
I remember one funny classified message in the Air Force.
I was only sworn to secrecy for 10 years, and I've been out for 26 years.
A bombing attempt was foiled in a Middle-East country.
Plastic explosives were disguised as a popular candy bar in the aread, presumably with some kind of firing cap
And place into a candy machine.
Over a billion taxpayer dollars wasted by the Bush Administration on propaganda and the lowest approval rating of any President in US History.
Incompetence at its finest.
I don`t normally go to right wing sites,but I just went over to Redstate and read a couple of comments.Delusion is an interesting phenomena.These guys are remarkably dense.The second post laid out the truth,but after that delusion abounds.Now I truly understand what we`re up against.Amazing!
I have just read nearly seventy posts at Red State. A few seemed fairly reasonable if somewhat misguided.
Many were simply seeing a different planet.
Their favorite quote is:
“Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so.” – Ronald Reagan
This from the actor, who knew NOTHING, though he read the script well enough.
Chimpy knows less than NOTHING and cannot string two coherent English sentences together.
My but our standards have fallen.
Good Work But Liars Never Stop Trying
Dam is legacy. If this president can get this illegal war off his back, he will settle for not committing genocide. Right now, the facts are we invaded a country for the wrong reasons. In doing that invasion, many innocent people were killed. In fact, close to a million people were killed. That makes Bush's actions genocide.
Logan Murphy disproved this claim in a matter of seconds. It appears Murphy knows the Republicans tactics; he knows they wont stop trying to vindicate their conservative ally. I am surprised it took this long to make such a claim.
Joseph
Was this yellowcake mined / extracted from Iraq itself? Iran also has naturally occurring uranium reserves. Uranium is found all over the earth pretty much, even trace amounts are in sea water. Here in the USA Native Americans do the mining of it so that they can die of cancer to feed our nuclear reactors.
How are we supposed to tell countries that they can't mine their own natural resources?
Elton John Sings 'Goodbye Yellowcake Road'
Give...us...a...fuckin'.....break.
gulf of tonkin anyone?
They have no credibility.zero.
All Franken got it right. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them
Actually at the beginning of the war Greenpeace was on this story and provided the definitive coverage. I don't know if any of their coverage is cached or not, but I was following it closely after we invaded Iraq and before the invasion became an occupation. Greenpeace was eventually forced out of Iraq and had no way of following up, but their coverage was compelling.
People were grabbing the yellowcake barrels, throwing the yellowcake away, and using the barrels for catching drinking water. I have no doubt that we well see generations of of health problems for the Iraqis!
oh my the gop is right on everything..........lol
i guess they will next tell us that cheney brings up
the sun each day..........the reichwingneocons are
all due lobotomies....and this should happen at birth
to avoid any future spin on reality.
Just more proof that life was better under Saddam. Iraq is now stone age, thanks to the caveman in the white house.
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The LIE!
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Oh man, it was painful reading the comments on that site.
I love this one:
"If you ask people on the street if Saddam had Uranium my bet is you would see spikes determined entirely by the MSM and their access to other sources of information. The MSM has done an incredible job disseminating the Saddam was harmless idea."
Uhh, wasn't it the MSM who whipped everyone up into a lust for war?
And another favorite:
"the issue, it's moot. You will hear crickets chirping.
Don't get me wrong, I happen to think that there were WMD's (likely in the Bekka Valley & Syria now) but GWB has been so utterly feckless and spineless about taking on the Enemy at Home that it's a pointless exercise now.
Just as Carter & Clinton's non-actions spurred on aQ, GWB's non-actions have spurred on the Dems."
Ahh, yes the grand Muslim conspiracy to hide the WMD's that were never found. Carter? He was president long before Al Qaeda existed.
A visit to the land of the trolls can be frightening.
The rightwingers will take it even if it doesn't prove anything. This and Obama's forged birth certificate...another conspiracy they dry hump all day at redscare.com
why did sara have to prove her baby is hers? McCain gave all documents needed! the Obamo sends uses injunctions to not provide the papers? As a independant i wonder why he dosn't! If Hillary refused she would have been left out to dry
every time.. EVERY time yellow cake is mentioned, i get hungry. i want cake right now. yellow cake with chocofrosting. im going to the store right now. im gonna buy 3 boxes of cake and make one tonite. so there.
Edwin Hussein @ 6:
No. Cameco bought the stuff legally from the Iraqi government to reprocess into nuclear fuel.
It seems every Friedman unit or so the right wingers roll out this five-year old story?
I see Pammy of Nazareth has been pumping this meme all weekend.
Alice X (Chomsky Nader) @ 19:
Have you ever observed that the louder someone is, the less intelligent they seem to be? Those posters at Red State are an excellent example. The ones who are most confident in their 'facts' and persistent in expressing those 'facts' seem to be complete morons.
History will vindicate the bush presidency.
Seriously, if the U.S. is around for the next 300 to 400 years, statistically speaking, one of those presidents will be worse than bush.
Then we'll see who laughs!
Until then...I'm going with "dumbass."
This stuff has been sitting around unloved and unguarded for over five years in Iraq,
then suddenly its shipped to Canada with full MSM coverage in the run up to the election...
Corey Carroll @ 21:
the US army and Blackwater!
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 36:
I know its hard to believe, but maybe the Bushies are doing this for political reasons! Imagine that.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 36:
yeah!
whoodathunk the reichwing Canadian Prez would conspire with the american repugs to resurrect a lie by the boosh admin and treat the lie as prophecy.
whoodathunk the AP, with rupert murdick on the board of directors, would put forth the story to help McC*nt, who's slipping in the polls and at the podium like he stepped on a banana peel?
and who thinks this won't get a mention on CNN Fux and the threeNBCs tomorrow. something has to replace the story of the collapsing economy. heaven forbid they find space in their broadcast for the word, recession.
Early Oct surprise. They couldn't wait any longer . McCain needs all the help he can get. His campaign isn't getting the traction they would like. SOoooooooo. Lookeee here, Look what we found.
fridgemagnet @ 31:
fridgemagnet! You rock, dude!
So they found a twinky and the right wing is getting all excited?
redstate is either one of the lyingest America hating sacks of shit ever or one of the stupidest!
It's not so much that right-wingers *lie*, it's that they simply don't care what the facts are. A liar does at least acknowledge reality-- if only to himself. These people just say whatever is convenient, and they call it "spin".
If this was a smoking gun we would have been told about it in 04 when Bush almost lost the White House.
This ain't just about neocons, the "plot" is to turn Ontario-o-o-OH into the butthole of the world. This has been planned since 1998, in fact. They dump the depleted uranium canisters from the Isreali wars on indigenous land! But the dimwit lamestream media don't tell the truth about ANYTHING. (the uranium was probably mined in Pakistan with the hearty approval of AQ Khan.)
The right wing also seizes on the sort of BS proof that Noahs Ark existed or the God exists and created the world 6000 years ago.
They are used to this level of deceit and deliberate ignorance.
We need to be on guard of the MSM running with it.
Fox, of course, gets a free pass. a) We'd never be able to stop them anyway b) Fox viewers should continue to remain more ignorant of the reality they live it. It gives us hope of some Darwinian natural selection trimming their numbers.
NOW the lying will start in the CORPORATE CONTROLED MEDIA, LIMBAUGH, GLENN BECK, All of FOX TV NEWS, and maby even the ever fatfull WOLF BLITZER, and LIE-berman. I see a storm of comming the closer that election gets. Want to bet?
The yellowcakeiniraq storyline is a way to encourage a semi decent legacy for Bush. But the truth is people are more interested with the economy. Maybe if he could start thinking
about fixing it and working on it in the white house like any US president should before he leave office. Maybe he will not find a tub of feces smack on his face portrait when he revisited white house again.
Why was this buried in the news cycle?
Exactly. The same thing happened a couple years back when the 1980s-era chemical weapon expired "WMDs" were found. The administration and DoD weren't making hay over it, yet the wingnut pundits claimed vindication. This just goes to show us that no matter what we think of the Bush administration, many members of the 28-percent would be FAR more dangerous in the White House, with access to the red button.
I just read the posts at RedState (whats with the Communist labels the right embraces?).
A valiant attempt is made by a poster, who gives his name as Linus Bern, to throw some sense into the thicket. Hitting every point, Linus counters each right wing challenge smartly and sensibly. At the end the righty he is talking to only gives him 'the benefit of the doubt' because Linus is new to the forum. In the face of honest, polite dialog being condescending is as close to admitting they're wrong righties will ever get.
How do you argue with a twelve year old?
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What does your hissy fit rant have to do with the topic of this thread? Reich-wingers generally seem to come from two schools of "thought" if you can call it that. One is the completely non-thinking, illiterate poor class and the second is the non-thinking, illiterate poor class with no common sense that think they know everything.
Yeah Newsweek carried that story, here is an interesting excerpt
"While yellowcake alone is not considered potent enough for a so-called "dirty bomb" — a conventional explosive that disperses radioactive material — it could stir widespread panic if incorporated in a blast. Yellowcake also can be enriched for use in reactors and, at higher levels, nuclear weapons using sophisticated equipment."
Yet of course at the top of the story they call it the "seed the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment" saying "It also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear ambitions."
http://www.newsweek.com/id/144703/output/print
Love the news, they have to add the sizzle to sell the story. Phew thank God they got that Yellowcake out of there who, you know that helped Iran and the insurgents. Could they have made a nuke with it?! Well no. Could they have made a dirty bomb with it?! Well no but they could have stirred widespread panic if incorporated in a blast and so being terrorist they would terrorize people with knowledge and we all how scary knowledge can be.
Where did the yellow cake come from?
Oh yeah...pre 1991...it must have come from us...oops!
And the fsckers have sent it to the Port of Montreal, and I get to ride by it on my way to and from work. WTF? God damn stephen harper you son of a bitch, Bush butt licker.
The only good to come out of this is that I got bitten by a radioactive spider this morning and my spidy senses are definitely tingling. That and Kirsten Dunst keeps calling me. Tragedy that.
I live in Montreal, I am deeply concerned of some lunatic manufacturing WMDs in my backyard! somebody has got to do something!!! Cheney!! Invade my country
Yes, but that uranium could be MADE into weapons grade... that's what the aluminum tubes were for! (sarcasm, but I'm sure they said it.)
Ya know, a thought crossed my mind while reading the story:
If Saddam already had 550 metric tons of Yellowcake, why would be need to buy 500 more from Niger?
The Bushies will be quick to overlook that little "problem" with the case Bush made for war when using this non-story to hype "how right they were from the beginning".
The obvious desperation of Reslugs is hilarious.
"It was legally in Iraq according to international law."
...in stark contrast to US and allied forces.
Fil @ 58:
Montreal is now the latest member of the axis of evil.
Fil @ 58:
Shut up, man, don't give him any ideas! I happen to like it here.
Cmon people ya cant have it both ways.
Its true and ya just don't want to believe it.
ysbaddaden @ 1:
Yellow cake can be refined into weapons grade.
ysbaddaden @ 14:
The Chimperor has already tasted them. He said they were fabulous! So, we're good with the Pink Cakes. Just avoid the ones that smell like pee. Dumya did note that they were a tad salty.
So far,550 metric Tons of Yellowcake Uranium were discovered in Iraq. 500+ Chemical Bombs are found in Iraq. Our mainstream media continues to ignore these two very significant facts. Rumors now abounding from Secret Service agents that Obama likes to have a little "down low" time on his days off. Maybe there is some credibility to the Sinclair story but no "reporters" working to check out the whole story. I'm not sure Americans' should elect a guy that has 15 minutes of experience, never listened in church (20 year member, never heard what Rev. Wright was saying) and associates/befriends with known terrorist (William Ayers). WMD's and related materials found in Iraq, Bush didn't lie but Joe Wilson did. And America is on the verge of electing a gay, half black, Islamic named, leftist president? Wow! what kind of odds could you have gotten on this in Vegas 5 or 6 years ago?
O'Really @ 65:
Its really amazing that they would find this. It equally amazing that the admin would jump on this to turn down the heat when it comes to his legacy. As I write this post, I am watching my blood pressure because it keeps going up every time I read BS like this. Bush and his cronies are still going to make a case for invading and occupying Iraq. You are just hoping that this discovery will bring the chickens back to roost....naaaah ...not going to happen...no self respecting Republican will allow Bush to burn them again....nuff said
Rupert Murdoch is now on the Associated Press Board of Directors.
What else could we expect?
Che's Lounge @ 4:
The same twits who forgot where the ReThugniCons planted this newly discovered ton of lemon floavored Duncan Hines.
Folks must be assigned to dress these dolts in the morning to keep them from going outside wearing their ruffled panties as fancy hats.
Why not just say nuclear weapons? Do we also include dirty bombs? I'm assuming chemical and biological weapons aren't considered WMDs, but it just seems useless to keep saying WMDs.
Fearmongering republicans need to stop speculating on the use of relatively harmless uranium that would obviously be used for pharaceuticals, if anything. No centifuge was found to enrich the uranium, so it's impossible to say that it's any more dangerous than coal dust. Just because yellow cake uranium can make Uranium 235, doesn't mean that was it's purpose.
that is poopy
Biggest problem with this braindead idiot writing this article is that he has no clue to what is going on.CNN and the pictures of chemical weapons are also WMDS.Learn something before you lay out the lies in order............
Learn what a WMD is before you parrot the lies.When Clinton did an air strike on Iraq that people forget what he said and that there was nukes there.Welcome back from Fantacy Island or are you still there?
Yes, this particular 500 tons of Uranimum was under seal (possibly lock) by the IAEA. And yes, it is unrefined and suitable for use in a nuclear reactor for peaceful purposes. Unfortunately IRAQ does not & did not have any working nuclear reactors. So the question remains why did they have it? And if it was secured by the ever vigilant UN, could it be possible that old Saadam was looking to get his paws on another stash? Oh, heck no, that is just too far fetched. He probably just wanted it for its pretty color. And then one day it winds up in a dirty bomb somewhere and the progressive handwringing begins......."why oh why didn't our government do something to prevent this". "Those Republiocans are sooooo dum, they ncould not connect the dots." blah, blah, blah
isnt uranium one of the ingredients that dem pres truman dropped,twice, on japan? sounds like a WMD to me, if our troops produced 10,000 nukes from iraq, lefties wouldnt want to hear it, they dont want the truth, that doesnt matter, they just hate bush, he i would too if my mind was mushy enough to believe all that angry left garbage, but they still like castro...umm.....so what is that again? free tibet? one human family?, but not for iraqis, such racists, some of them lefties, dont iraqi children deserve to be free?
You know? The DEMOCRAT MORON'S of this country have their heads so far up their backside, that if Saddam had walked out of the spider hole with a nuke in his hand they still would not except the premise that George W. Bush was right.
The media is fond of reminding us that no Weapons of Mass Destruction were ever found in Iraq. This has been the clarion call of the Democrats for a couple of years now. However, did you know that WMD's were found in Iraq? Not just a couple...but lots of them. A mother who lost her son in Iraq was interviewed on Fox News had this to say: "I have seen photos of entire fighter jets buried in the sand. I have seen pictures of entire caches of weapons that just my son's unit would uncover." I wonder why we never hear much about that one? Here's also a nice little list of what was found:
-500 tons...that's right...TONS...make that 1million pounds of yellow cake uranium. It was found at Saddam's nuclear weapons facility (yup...he had one of those too.)
-1.8 tons of partially enriched uranium found at the same place. You know, the stuff you need to make nukes.
(How convenient that the "AUTHOR" of this article, (and I use that term loosely) didn't mention this part.)
-Hidden centrifuge parts and blueprints.
(wow, a way to make enriched uranium. (nope they didn't mention that either, how convenient)
I wonder how they will muddy up the truth next time.
-Two dozen artillery shells loaded with Sarin and mustard gas.
Which just 1 of these is a WMD in my humble opinion.
Sounds like WMD's to me!
So if you leftwing lunatic's out their think there are no repulicans willing to put you in check, think again.
So that being said, George W. Bush was without a doubt correct.
If you libtards want a socialist country, here is a thought. MOVE TO A SOCIALIST COUNTRY. Don't try and turn ours into one.
Harry H. @ 74:
Yellow cake: Hans Blix knew of this material. And said it was not weapons grade.
Sarin and Mustard gas: Known to be old and non effective.(Sold to them by Reagan)
You really should do some homework before you spout BS like that. You just make yourself look like the fool you are.
Provide some sort of PROOF to you BS( You know, Linky ,Linky)
Tell me, how's the neo fascist fan club holding up?
So why is the right so excited now anyway? I thought finding WMD was not the reason we went into Iraq (when none were found)
Dr. Ruger @ 72:
The uranium in question was a left-over from the time when Iraq did have a fledgling nuclear program in the 1970s. That ended when the Israelis blew up Iraq's only nuclear reactor then under construction. The yellowcake uranium then remained languishing uselessly in storage until now when it was finally sold abroad. Refining yellowcake is a difficult and expensive and very time consuming process which Iran has been at for a long time (with no visible success as of yet) and which Iraq did not ever achieve the technology for (even at the heyday of their nuclear efforts in the 1970s-1981).
It is that simple.
Harry H. @ 74:
Wow. Wmd's huh? I'm only going to focus this one item of your list because it shows your ignorance of history. You ever hear of the Iran Iraq war? Where Reagan shipped all these chemicals to Iraq to use against the Iranians. You know, back when Sadam was a stabilizing force in the middle east. Ruthless yes, but the Republicans of the time thought the lesser of the evils so they pushed his war.
Think after the brutality of that war they might have left some artillery shells laying around? I bet there's more buried in the sand then the two dozen found. Funny how your account is so much worse than the actual. The people handling the sarin & mustard gas for disposal said it was so old that the worse it could do is cause a skin rash.
Do some research.
By the way, I'm from a socialist country. Suck on it.
Edwin Hussein @ 6:
Axis of beer, eh.
Interesting dialoge here.
President Bush did use the WMD as a concern to invade Iraq very shortly after video clips came out showing the laugher he shared after the 911 attacks with the talbian. The military did not find conclusive evidence of WMD, thus the Democrats have been all over his back.
Approximately 3 years prior to 911 (1998), President Clinton also invaded Iraq with air strikes stating a concern that Saddam had WMD. He had to get the votes and approval to do this. The first person to sign the dotted line regarding WMD in Iraq for President Clinton was Sen. John Kerry. Republicans beat President Clinton over the woodshed because it was during his impeachment process or there abouts.
It probable does matter so I won't say that it doesnt but those bastards supporting anyone who cheered after 911 need the crap kicked out of them. If anyone doesn't agree with that, than we can simple agree to disagree.
If the US doesn't fight they will get beat up. As far as I'm concerned it's really good that they found this stuff and move it out of that region.
Bush is not afraid to fight and neither was Clinton... the next President better be too. Both Clinton intellegence and Bush's intellegence told them the same things about Iraq. Don't forget it if you can't help yourself from bashing the "right" or the "left."
Also it is good to remember that the person running against President Bush was not smart enough to win the election around him for whatever reason...thus we are all probable better off with the one who figures out a way to get it done better than the other guy.
Well once again, the President was telling the truth. It doesn’t matter when Saddam acquired the yellow cake uranium the fact is this, the uranium had the potetial to make a bomb, either conventional or dirty, that qualifies as WMD to any defense expert. David Kay, in his report, stated Saddam was biding time to let the sanctions drop and then he was going to produce WMD with money he was saving from the oil for food scandal.
It is also a truth that al Quaeda and Iraq had operational intelligence links all the way into back into the ’90’s. Let me provide evidence: Take, for example, the original indictment of bin Laden by the US Justice Department in spring 1998, which stated: “. . . al-Qa’eda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al-Qa’eda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al-Qa’eda would work co-operatively with the Government of Iraq.” Or how about this further evidence:CIA director George Tenet: “We have solid reporting of senior level contacts between Iraq and Al Qa’eda going back a decade. Credible information indicates that Iraq and Al Qa’eda have discussed safe haven and reciprocal non-aggression. We have credible reporting that Al Qa’eda leaders sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire WMD capabilities. Iraq has provided training to Al Qa’eda members in the areas of poisons and gases and making conventional bombs.” I’ll add further: “Bin Laden was receiving training on bomb making from the IIS’s [Iraqi Intelligence Service’s] principal technical expert on making sophisticated explosives, Brigadier Salim al Ahmed. Brigadier Salim was observed at bin Laden’s farm in Khartoum in Sep-Oct 1995 and again in July 1996, in the company of the director of Iraqi Intelligence Mani-abd-al-Rashid-al-Tikriti [to discuss] bin Laden’s request for IIS technical assistance” in making bombs.
I’ll give you so more evidence: bin Laden’s top deputy Ayman al Zawahiri “visited Baghdad and met with the Iraqi vice-president on 3 February 1998. The goal of the visit was to arrange for co-ordination between Iraq and bin Laden and establish camps in al-Falluja, an-Nasiriya and Iraqi Kurdistan under the leadership of Abdul Aziz.” Hayes says that visit coincided with a $300,000 payment from Iraqi intelligence to Zawahiri’s Egyptian Islamic jihad, which merged with al-Qa’eda.
Those of you who wish to deny we went into Iraq for the right reasons need to be reminded Saddam Hussein was a threat to the world and had to be stopped. He was the logical choice to use the military strategy, “defeat the enemy on ground of your choosing.” We chose Iraq and we are winning there. According to an AP story a year ago, we have killed 40% of the terrorists. Last year, USA Today estimated an Al Quaeda body count of 19,000 terrorists dead. This has been one of the most brilliant military operations in U.S. history. It is sad that we have lost 4,000 brave soldiers but when you compare them to the casulties lost in almost every other conflict (330,000 WW II, 624,000 Civil War, 58,000 Vietnam, 53,000 Korean War)it is important to make sure these soldiers didn’t die in vain. Those of you on the left like to point to the mistakes made in Iraq and try to claim this war has been a disaster, but we are defeating the terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan. As a result, Osama Bin Laden (if he’s alive) can only control some little cave in the rocky mountains of Afghanistan. Because we have been successful in Iraq Al Quaeda has become unpopular and is losing its influence throughout the Middle East. We have been very successful in Iraq and the bottom line is the President told the truth, did the right thing and it is Joseph Wilson and you minions of the left who have lied.
I just want all of you who're whining and are sooooo disappointed at this news ...
Well ...
I've got hanky's for you!
You guys simply amaze me... GET OVER IT!!!! Bush DIDN'T LIE!!!!!! You all need to find a freakin' hobby!
SoonerCon @ 83:
reality is hard for some people to accept. He Lied. period.
MarkH @ 79:
lol! Awesome! Better watch out fer those Canadians eh? They might put Yellowcake in your Molson eh? Thinking it's yeast or something eh?
I've got exit visas for all of you also. Every American dollar you mooch, every bit of free U.S. air you breathe, makes you all hypocrites. Hey, I have a great idea. Since you have all supported Al Quaeda and everything they have done (suppressing women's rights and education, cutting off of prisoners heads and innocent civilian deaths) take the exit visas I offer you and move to that great Al Quaeda support haven, Saudi Arabia. Or maybe Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe. After all, the liberals and socialists of the world like you all put him into power. I'm sure either place will just welcome leftists like yourselves. Dick Cheney '08.
mustang 6 @ 88:
Let me guess, you ran out of your meds again. You're hysterically ranting now.
Jesus, neo-cons....
If Saddam had weapons grade yellowcake stockpiled since '81- if not earlier!- why would the administration go through the trouble of linking the supposed late '90's sale of weapons-grade yellowcake by Niger to Iraq?
That's like Bush saying they had guns, and as it turns out, they had squirtguns.
"But...but," said the neo-con,"a squirtgun is still a gun! You could, ya know, drown someone."
Next...
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Truth hurts doesn't it? Yes it is a waste of bandwidth to be shown up by someone who was there and doesn't rely on kool aid. So I hope you will delete this too. The Left just can't compete in the arena of ideas or truth.
Jo @ 3:
Did you mean left wing blog repliers?! Wholly cow!
Jo @ 3:
Well, one thing is very obvious, no matter where you get your facts from. This country will not tolerate socialism. So if you on the left persist, then one of 2 things need to happen. Either YOU need to move to a country that has more government control, i.e. socialism, or WE need to move somewhere else. This citizens of this country will not tolerate this misguidedness that you insist on from the left. Bush did not lie, get over it.
So, the yellowcake uranium isn't "weapons-grade"? Can you find a scientific reference (not someone's personal blog) that explains what "weapons-grade" yellowcake is? I doubt it - there's no such thing. Yellowcake uranium has to be refined first, and the type of refining process determines whether the material becomes "fuel-grade" or "weapons-grade". So isn't it possible that yellowcake IS dangerous in the hands of a terrorism supporter like Hussein, because it's exactly what they need to make nuclear material "weapons-grade" ?
I would qualify that as a WMD. If you don't agree, then I thank God you don't work for the national security - of ANY country.
Oh, and by the way, terrorists don't REALLY care if their radioactive material is "weapons-grade" or not, as long as they can make it work. In fact, the dirtier the bomb or less traceable the material, the better.
The centrifuges spin the yellowcake around which change the grade. Low speed spinning centrifuges will create the fuel for nuclear power. High speed centrifuges will create weapons grade, meaning a higher potency of uranium in the yellow cake. Its sub 10% for nuclear fuel and over 90% for nuclear weapons.
Yellowcake can be found naturally and mined. Its a matter of how it is processed that can make it nuclear fuel or weapons grade. The yellowcake found had not been processed into [yellowcake] weapon grade.
Iran currently has 6,000 centrifuges running that can process yellowcake - they claim to have perfected the spinning of the centrifuges at high speed, which means they can process yellowcake into weapons grade. Although they are still not capable, as far as anyone is aware, of producing a nuclear weapon - they have the material but lack the technology.
A couple years ago a N. Korean ship was seized using a Singapore flag claiming to be transporting cement to Pakistan but was really transporting centrifuges to go into Iran. It wasn't a big deal then because Iran wasn't the threat, or as vocal about its ambitions at that point.
As other articles stated, having the yellowcake in an unstable region is not a good idea and could have been processed by other regimes.
If this 'Yellow Cake' is so innocuous, why don't we just spread on your dinner tonight.
Given more time, Saddam could have used it to produced a weapon, advanced his research into creating a weapon or at the very least created a dirty bomb capable of turning NYC into a ghost town and killing 100s of thousands.
But then being a Patriot and protecting Americans takes a back seat to Bush-bashing and undermining his administration. I guess Democrats will do anything to regain power.... anything at all!
BTW Where was the coverage of this in the Main Steam Media? Non-biased? Yeah right!
They couldn't afford to expose the biggest lie of the 21st century. Bush never lied, the evidence was there, it wasn't doctored and the Dimmicrat Congress has even admitted it.
Once the Congress authorised the Iraq War and America had troops on the ground, ANY dissent has been TREASON! The debate was over and anything short of full support of our troops and their MISSION is unpatriotic!
jesus fu@#ing christ what a pseudointellectual wastland this is. everyone just shut your fu%^ing pie holes and get a life. bush will be gone and the war wont last for ever. and i happen to love yellow cake,,,,with chocolate icing.
Wouldn't it be simpler to have bought a black market nuke from "Crazy Ivans" I mean why make the cake when Mrs Smiths comes ready to rock off the shelf?
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