DHS Considering Shock Bracelets For All Airline Passengers
It seems as though the only people left in the Bush administration are certifiable lunatics and knuckle draggers. The unthinkable is always possible with these people, so I suppose it should come as no surprise that they would sink to using such barbaric tactics to keep the public in line.
This clip, which is not directly linked to this story, is safe for work, although you might find yourself yelling at your monitor while watching it. (the related content starts at around 3:00 in) The video, made by an electronic ID bracelet manufacturer, shows how they will work to effectively disable the dirty, scary brown people in mid-air without compromising the structural integrity of the plane or harming innocent bystanders -- and I'm sure they're just as effective on anti-American liberals and dirty f*$king hippies as well. Would you allow yourself or your family to be fitted with one of these devices when you fly? Me either. More from Daily Kos:
Every feel like livestock when you fly? DHS is exploring a new technology (warning, Moonie Times link) which, if it makes to airlines, will guarantee I will never fly again:
A senior government official with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has expressed great interest in a so-called safety bracelet that would serve as a stun device, similar to that of a police Taser®. According to this promotional video found at the Lamperd Less Lethal website, the bracelet would be worn by all airline passengers.This bracelet would:
• take the place of an airline boarding pass
• contain personal information about the traveler
• be able to monitor the whereabouts of each passenger and his/her luggage
• shock the wearer on command, completely immobilizing him/her for several minutes Read on...
It's amazing that DHS would think passengers would be willing to wear these.
"It seems as though the only people left in the Bush administration are certifiable lunatics and knuckle draggers"
Almost correct. That's all that were ever in the Bush Admin and they are the only people that support these lunatics. You KNOW they would love all of us to wear those in everyday life and that is EXACTLY where we are headed if we continue to vote this lunatics into office.
Bwahahhaaa...
That's the most fkkd up thing I have ever heard of.
Yeahuh, right. Like that is ever gonna happen.
Not trying to be paranoid here, but wouldn't this bracelet make it way easier for "the terrorists" to control an airplane? In addition to the fascists, of course.
There is soon to be no fourth amendment.
We have a corrupt congress.
Anything can happen.
They would be useful to keep track of the administration officials once they're removed from power. They could threaten Rove with that at least if he won't testify.
That would definitely guarantee that I would never fly again. They could take their airports, airplanes, security lines, overpriced airport stores and stun bracelets and stick em right up their asses, because I wouldn't be needing them if this came to pass. But I doubt it will ever come to pass.
James @ 1:
Not only that though the majority of americans will beg to wear them to keep their country safe and make them more patriotic ..... you only don't want to wear one if you hate america ....... ra ra ra we're #1 ra ra ra .........
There you go, proof that the government and corporation think of the public as nothing more than cattle.
why bother limiting this practice to air-travelers?
why not just issue implants to every citizen and children at birth?
hell... you could easily add a microphone that shocks whenever the decider decides he's heard something he's decided he doesn't like...
You remember the old - original - Star Trek episode, the Gamesters of Triskelion...
the big disembodied brains had all the "Thralls" collared with similar devices if they ever got out of line....zap....
then there is the prison neck collar from the Running Man.
The fact that there will be abuse of this 'system' PLUS
The fact that there will be human error PLUS
The fact that there will be egregious malicious use by bored TSA employees PLUS
The fact that some people DIE when electrocuted EQUALS
"I Christen Thee... MURDERCUFF!"
Will the bracelets have links so we can be chained to the oars?
Cue Twilight Zone music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y
Jerry @ 8:
Keep in mind that this would be the promotional video that was shown to the DHS, and not something the DHS made themselves. Naturally they are going to be all smiles and roses about their own product. I'm just saddened that it's a Canadian company making this crap.
Did they really say the terrorist would be captured alive so they could stand trial???
Please, please, oh, PLEEZ tell me this is someone's idea of a joke! How far have we come in this country when anyone would think this is a serious proposal.
What would we do when the hijackers took over the device that immobilizes the passengers? Great screaming Jesus!
Daisy in the gun @ 16:
I noticed that as well. The people who made this video don't get it. They would be shipped to Gitmo or some black site somewhere in the world and tortured in the blink of an eye.
klunk @ 10:
All in good time.
And I'm sure that there would be an extra fee for the braclet too! These people really just want the only people left flying to be those with private planes.
Most people are practically feed up with air travel as it is. I spent 7 hours in an airport or on the tarmac last week waiting for my 1.5 hour flight to take off. Once people learned of the first (short) delay there was discussion about the bus or a train. It would have actually been quicker (and substaintally cheaper) to take the bus in the first place. Add a braclet that could shock me and there is no question. I'd take the guaranteed 10 hour bus trip over the possiblity of a quick flight wearing suck a braclet.
Are the influential blogs and their online communities going to fight the coming police state or just observe and report on it as it occurs. So far after the attack of 9/11 it seems most mainstream blogs are just reporting on it. I'd like to see more action taken to confront these traitors who are trying to maintain control of our population through fear and implementation of fear based legislation.
Ironically 9/11 has been used as an excuse to take away our freedoms, which is the same reason why we were attacked according to the talking points of that time period. "They hate us for our freedoms" I think Bush & his corporate masters hate us for our freedoms.
Something like this was used on Captain Picard on Star Trek, Next Generation. Say what you will about Trekkies, they tackled some damn interesting issues, especially on that show. Amazing and sad how close to the mark Roddenberry and his writers could be except about the one thing he cared most about - that humans would evolve beyond the beasts currently running our country.
ok.. you've been punked. there is no way this is real.
Thanks Logan for the post. Education and information is the first key to preventing this shit from happening. I appreciate it.
If one passenger became uncontroolable and someome pushes a button, wouldn't all of the passengers be shocked?
Hilarious!
I guess the longterm goal is to further lower airline travel in and to America. Maybe cause the death of someone who has a pacemaker and essentially de-humanize people. I can't use electronics on the plane but they can use electronic bracelets that shock people? Believe me, if the day comes where this is instituted, I want to sit right next to the guy who flips the switch so I can grab him and transfer the voltage.
What kind of perverted mind even thinks up disgusting products like this?
Better idea - make us all take a sedative before boarding a flight. Sure we wouldn't be able to respond in case of crash or other emergency, but at least we wouldn't have to worry about terrorists since they'd be sleeping too.
They referred to cockpit doors as being installed sometime in 2003, so this must have been made previous to that.
anyone catch that one of the federal high ups that used to deal with airlines carries her own smoke mask when she flies because she thinks it is unsafe to fly if you don't have one? The airlines don't offer them for passengers. or should I say, cattle?
sadpanda @ 20:
when a bbl of petroleum is going for $200-300, no one is going to be able to fly, let alone take a cab to the airport.
you got airlines going under right now at $140/bbl. and the big companies are in a slow death spiral.
Like a person hijacking a plane would really be dumb enough to not take the bracelet off.
This is just what the struggling airline industry needs.
Is this for real? Or did the Washington Times get duped? How would you incapacitate the right person? Or would you just take down everybody in the plane? I can tell you one thing, I will never fly again if this ever really comes to pass.
as a police officer of over 20 years this is FUCKING MADNESS. WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD WEAR SUCH A THING???
sadpanda @ 27:
that method was used in the space jump scene from the 5th Element.
and the terrorists got on board anyways.
but Bruce Willis, I mean Corbin Dallas, was good at negotiations.
solid @ 7:
I doubt it as well. Remember "intelligent mail"? The Bush Postal Commission Report a few years ago contained a recommendation for the implementation of "intelligent mail" that would log sender and recipient ID for every piece of private first class mail.
To combat "Terrah" of course.
Well, I'd followed the course of that whole thing, and found in the record a document proffered by Pitney-Bowes as part of the hearings. The final report section advocating 'intelligent mail" was lifted almost verbatim from the Pitney-Bowes thing. Pitney-Bowes was obviously gunning for the contract for this mendacious piece of crap.
Show 2 forms of photo ID and give a signature to mail a letter or postcard? Right. Fucking stupid.
Of course, they alluded to expensively irrelevant shit like FedX, UPSP Express Mail, and UPS as analogies. It went nowhere.
So, maybe air traveler shock bracelets will meet the same fate.
Okay... we all know this would never happen, even if this is real (and not made up by Moony-Second-Coming-of-Jesus Times). The solid tin-foil-hat wearing fringe of the GOP (aka- the 29%-ers) would be against this. But come on... to even have the audacity to seriously consider this in a brainstorming meeting shows just how far to the fascist extreme the idiots at DHS would be willing to go.
Land of the free... home of the brave...
Why don't these DHS morons watch Schindler's List to see what prejudiced control freaks can do to the world---oh wait, we're talking about sociopathic Neocons with zero empathy--never mind, it might give them more looney ideas.
and i would want to put on a dog shock collar and give the remote to a sadistic tsa mouth breather exactly why? for the privilige of flying on an american airline? i don't think so.
i already refuse to fly due to the moronic antics of the tsa, i can continue not giving the airlines my business.
And some hacker comes up with a device smaller than a garage door opener that will trigger all of the bracelets on a plane. Imagine the fun...
You know it'll happen. And those controllers wouldn't end up in terrorists hands now would they... Nope... ;-)
I say you do it! We in Europe want to see just how far away you slide from yourselves and still market your country as "the home of the free and the brave".
Really...you guys need help.
If Cheney had his way they'd all be in leg irons!
Scy @ 2:
yep that's where it's headed...
James @ 1:
Really? I'm amazed you think that people won't. I know I wouldn't but I bet if you took a poll a significant number of people would be willing to. Of course they won't spin it as "we can shock you" it will be "this will speed boarding, decrease flight delays, etc." I remember at one point the idea of face recognition software was considered intolerable. Notice how now its referenced here as something that is not safe enough. I hope I'm wrong but I think that a lot of the US people are already so brain washed they would take this.
I had an idea like this about 20 years ago
Replace all stewardesses
With dominatrixes.
Theyve been trying to push this stuff for years
-The national 'ID CARD.'
-The personal ID CHPS implanted under your skin.
On and on...
This will be fantastic when the hackers figure out how to hijack this.
I'm sure someone in the administration is hearing about this and thinking :
"Hey i don't like this idea. Why only for air passengers? Terrorists could be walking our streets at will completely uncollared! We should require ALL citizens to wear these whenever they leave their homes. And maybe even when they are in their homes. And my buddies at (fill in favorite conglomerate here) can get a no-bid to churn 'em out! I'm a genius!"
Y'know, that video alludes to "reinforced cockpit doors that will be required by 2003."
"will be"?
This may be some way old, long-dead stuff.
So what are all these idiots in DHS, TSA and the FBI going to do when a person trained in martial arts uses his own body as a weapon and takes over an aircraft?
Note about the video: Whoever made that video is one racist tool. "Terrorists are religiously motivated...." Yes they are, unless of course they're white supremacists, in which case they're "patriots paying back the government for what happened at Waco".
Another thought on how this could get rolled out. First they deploy it without the "EMD" feature. So its just a substitute for a ticket and it provides extra security since it ties the traveller to their luggage. Then once we are all used to wearing them suddenly version 1.1 gets the EMD "upgrade" (those beta tests will be a bitch).
I think that the only way this could be made palatable to the American Public would be to model the system after Dr. Monroe's family electric shock therapy from The Simpsons.
Also did anyone catch that the state that the real problem isn't that people can get expolsive abroad, and then later their only excuse for why steel doors won't work is if there were plastic explosives?
Seems like by there own logic steel doors together with keeping explosive off the plane would avoid the need for these braclets.
"Today Americans would be outraged if U. N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
- Henry Kissinger from 5/21/92 Bilderberg Conference in Evian, France
"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." ~ Henry Kissinger
The end is here. Home of the Free...BS.
If this is instituted, I will do two things:
1) Never again return to the United States.
2) Sink every last yen I own into Amtrak stock.
Who will be responsible for the possible injuries to the people suffering with medical conditions? It goes throughly unreported how many who have been involentarily shocked, suffer aftereffects afterwards or even die.
This NWO control shit is getting way out of hand. If this ain't a sign of total people control, I don't know what really is.
Put these bracelets on those testifying in hearings that are unresponsive to answering questions properly! They say it works, and is completely safe? Then let them be the first to prove their own bs.
This easily "press a button" remotely crap is disconnecting the punisher from the potential overabuse of possible deadly force.
It's getting so much like "X-box like" gameplaying today.
See my 49. I more & more think this whole thing is a punk job.
Ron @ 25:
No. It is supposed to be specific to an individual wearer. However, that leads to the question what would the user interface look like to activate it? Where would it be and how can you be sure that you are shocking the right person? What if a person changes seats? What if the terrorist gets control of the controlling gizmo? What if whoever controls the gizmo gets pissed at someone that has had a few too many drinks?
Wouldn't a "terrorist" just have to slip a small pad of non-conducting material like rubber between the bracelet and his skin to block the current?
The right wingers will love this idea until "they" have to wear the bracelet, just like they're all for extra airport security... until they're the ones inconvenienced.
BobbyG @ 58:
I didn't catch the reference to the doors but I was thinking the same thing.
Ron @ 25:
That's the beauty of it. They only need one button.
Let me update my last post for grammar.
I will do two things:
1) swear off going to the United States.
2) sink every last yen I own into Amtrak stock.
There. Better.
I propose a, I think, cheaper way to deal with passengers and increase airline revenue at the same time. With my idea, the airline can install floor to ceiling bunks 15x72 in. with 12 in. between layers. As a passenger checks in, they are given a choice of anesthetics, either inhaled or injected. They lay on a stretcher, are anesthesitized, and loaded into the bunking system that is then transported by forklift to the aircraft. This makes passengers happier because they don’t know they are packed like so many sardines, and the cabin crew can sip coffee or coke for the entire flight without having to serve anyone. I expect an aircraft equipped with bunks could double the capacity and be spared the expense of peanuts.
Awesome! Give them 15 minutes and you'll be able to download an app that will let you shock anyone/everyone the plane!! Of course, it will only run on Linux...
Aiwa @ 47:
why bother with all this when they can use Global Hawk technologies and hijack planes...its already worked 3 times I'm aware of. All on the same day.
MikeD @ 61:
@2:51 in the video: "Reinforced cockpit doors should be installed on all planes by some time in 2003"
Definitely off-topic but too hot not to share:
Steamy novel based on Laura Bush stirs controversy
"Don't tase my wrist bro" ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CheY0jYXJjY
Udon Nomee @ 65:
Excellent! Open source hackers will rule the world one day! First thing we do is put all the Neocons in re-education camps where they have to do slave labor coding COBOL on mainframes.
Soon they will be passing them out to everybody. When you click on the C+L link you get a little shock. If you comment the shock will knock you on your ass.
JohnnyBravo @ 55:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/rage+against+the+machine/know+your+enemy_20...
"What? the land of the free?
Whoever told you that is your enemy"
E_I @ 9:
Well when they behave as such ........
Hey Lief @41! Would you please ask your government to invade us? It's okay; the military is not home(what is left of it) and the neocons in charge will only roll on their backs and pee themselves if they were personally threatened.
/snark?
Some poor soul with an insulin reaction or an epileptic aura is going to be killed because of this in my opinion as a retired firefighter/paramedic.
BobbyG @ 67:
Folks, this video was made more than FIVE YEARS ago. Y'all been had.
Next thread, please.
How hard would it be to slide a thin piece of plastic in between the electrical contacts and your skin?
I dint think passengers would submit to the new Backscatter scanners that see through your clothes but they have so i suspect passengers would submit to this bracelet as well.
And nobody would ever abuse something like this--just ask Stanley Milgram.
BobbyG @ 67:
You are correct, and I noted that the video was unrelated to the story. I was using it for reference, I apologize for any confusion.
BobbyG @ 76:
I noted the video was not related to the story. I used it for reference to show what this might look like, nothing more. Again, my apologies for any confusion.
Logan Murphy @ 81:
The same video is on the company's website. That's where I first watched it.
I can see it all so clearly. A middle aged passenger, upset at the long delays and more than one too many drinks at the airport lounge. He boards the airplane, has a few more drinks on the way home. The airliner is further delayed and he becomes more unruly, speaking out loudly about the crappy service. An airline steward, concerned that the altercation may become violent decides to trigger the bracelet. Not having any way to "dial" in the specific person - a bunch of other people get shocked when the bracelets are activated. Aunt Maggie with an undiagnosed heart condition dies of a coronary brought on by the shock.
And then the airlines demand that they too have some of that retroactive immunity to keep the lawsuits off their backs.
http://dprogram.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/fema-red-blue-list-marked-for-t...
We are all on a Red or Blue list somewhere, those on the red list will be woken at 4am and taken to the camps and probably killed.
Red List - These people are the enemies of the NWO. They are the leaders of patriot groups, outspoken ministers, outspoken talk show hosts, community leaders, and even probably NET leaders. These people will be dragged out of their homes at 4:00 am and will be taken to FEMA detention centers and killed. This will take place approximately 2 weeks before martial law is enforced.
Blue List - these are also enemies of the NWO, but are followers of the Red List folks. These people will be rounded up after martial law is in place, and will be taken to the detention centers and ‘re-educated’. Various mind-control techniques will used on them. Most will not survive this. Mr. Springmeier was not specific on exactly who was on the Blue List, but I would guess that people such as you and I are on that list.
Yellow List - these are citizens who know nothing about the NWO and don’t want to know. They are considered to be no threat at all and will be instructed as to how to behave and will most likely do whatever they are told. Unfortunately there are too many of these to be effectively controlled, so many will be killed or starved.
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Posted By: Watchman
Date: Friday, 9 May 2008, 11:44 p.m.
Recently I have noticed BOTH a red and blue disc, about the size of a nickel, and placed on the outside of my mailbox. They are relatively newly placed. They can be removed but are stuck really well. They are reasonably thick and would weather well. They are not just paper. They are reflective. I live off the main road, and I drove to town tonight carefully eyeing all the mailboxes along the way. The vast majority had yellow discs, which are reflective, and show up well in the car headlights. As I got into town, I noticed some larger colored discs on the curb at several houses...
You have been warned.
Nice, so next time terrorists want to hijack an airplane and fly it into something, all they got to do to neutralize the passengers is to hack into a database, shock all of the passengers, and then figure some way to get to the cockpit door to take control of the plane. (blah blah will be secure from terrorists and electronic intrusions blah blah 100% safe for your protection)
How stupid are these motherfuckers? These are the orangutans running our National Security!
If its a "one button tasers all" system (and it pretty much has to be... what is the stewardess gonna do... "excuse me... you with the box cutter, may I have your seat number?") then why go through all this BS. Just rig the cabin with some kind of gaseous sedative and if there's a problem, every one goes nite-nite except for those wearing gas masks (hopefully the pilots and crew). I'm just sayin'....
And what if someone slipped plastic explosive ( which i believe is ignited by eletric current) between their skin and the bracelet?
We are nothing but cattle to these fascists.
danger hussein al-malak choom al-khadra @ 84:
the government would have the easiest time hacking into the software wouldn't it?
Its not like it doesn't have Promis software or other backdoors.
Where the hell are the democrats in all this. They have enough votes to stop stuff like this or at least hold it up....are they still afraid of bush and the republicans. Or are they AFRAID the money from Lobbyist will dry up if they try to protest this stuff.
Mickxotic @ 73:
Hell Yes! Good idea, only it wouldn't be an invasion. Liberate us from this dictatorship!
Mickxotic @ 73:
I'll ask, but unfortunately we like to go to war for more only good reasons. Besides, I love America, I just wish you would go back to being yourselves. Why aren't more of you standing up and screaming about this. You are torturing people! That alone right there should have caused Times Square to erupt in protest, at least the America I learned about in school. You helped us so much when Hitler invaded us, you were so brave and so good. Please find yourselves again. Turn off your TVs if you have to. I know I am preeching to the choir though.
"If you have done nothing wrong,
you have nothing to fear from
24x7 shock collars on all citizens."
-Republicans
Let's see: no elderly folks would fly because of the health risks; no children (would any parent in his or her right mind permit this for a child?); no one with cardiac problems; no one flying on business (could you imagine the liiability for corporations?). Who would be left? Maybe reality show contestants: "Survivor: The Airline."
In reality, I think the airline industry would go belly-up. Maybe the railroads ought to get back in the passenger business.
Does he have a Canadian accent?!
Listen to when he says "out" and "about".
This is just bizarre. Even if they can't take them off, they can easily slip in an insulator that renders it ineffective.
Bow down before the one you serve,
You're going to get what you deserve - NIN
"This is just bizarre. Even if they can’t take them off, they can easily slip in an insulator that renders it ineffective."
Or just take some scissors and cut em off.
The taser could be made so small that it could be secretly injected with a routine vaccination. Ta-daa!
I wouldn't mind the dirty, republican primates getting a taste of these. Leave all other people alone.
There's an easier, cheaper, low tech way of providing 100% security:
Handcuff all passengers. Tie them in their seats. Drug them. This would allow all their possessions to be searched and electronic media copied. Then when they arrive at their destination, they're just dumped on the street outside the airport and the ones with subversive materials on their persons can simply be made to disappear. Of course the passengers would have to wear diapers, but that's a small inconvenience to assure a safe, happy trip.
Just when you think you heard everything this comes up. Yep there are dimwits out there (repukes) that don't think anything is wrong with that suggestion. I met a girl today and she was in shock I was voting for Obama. I already new she and her dimwit husband were voting for McCain. I told her that no child left behind was not a good program. She loves it. I told her where did TN rank in education? I rest my case. Than we really got into over healthcare. She said the government shouldn't be in the business of National Healthcare. I said you are young wait til you get to be 60 and are struggling to make decisions. The gall of this women is both her parents are getting disability pay from SSN and probably on medicaid or medicare. I know they are even 60 yrs old yet. That is the repuke way. Its OK for my family but screw everyoneelse.
This video seems (rather obviously) satirical (and dated, referencing something that will happen "by 2003"). Maybe Canadian humo(u)r is just a little too low key for us Yanks. If you do a little thought experiment about what's required for the implementation, I think you'll start laughing rather than hollering.
Daisy in the gun @ 16:
If that antiquaited concept called Habeas Corpus is still around, that is...
Leif the Laughing Norwegian @ 91:
Lief- it is payback time, we are calling in that favor. As you say, we helped you guys when Hitler invaded- get your big blond asses over here and save us!
As far as the America you learned about in school- we were/are fed the same bullsh!t to this day. I didn't realize the difference until a few years ago. The vast majority here still don't- thus, no mass demonstrations. The many protests that do happen are heavily controlled by police and completely ignored by the media.
I have a sneaking feeling that this device will, sooner than later, be introduced into many of our workplaces along with the pop psychological examinations, background checks, piss tests, anti-smoking regulations and other invasive indignities into our personal lives that American workers must already endure to find gainful employment.
I can't wait to hear my republican in-laws say "We don't have a problem with wearing the bracelets, we have nothing to hide" Arg! Pretty soon the airlines will just give a sedative when we sit down and buckle in.
At first glance I thought it was a bracelet that would shock you if you were unruly or a trouble maker while flying. I must be getting paranoid.
They should have them wear a collar that will explode your arteries around the neck if your out of line.
If Chucklenuts Bush had had a shock bracelet a month before 911; maybe he would have actually READ his presidential daily brief: "Bin Laden determined to Attack in the U.S." But alas he didn't and now we must, because he was too lazy to read his PDB's.
Scy @ 2:
Who the hell voted these jerks into office?They stole both elections and are about to steal another one if we let them.
These people are fucking insane
Uhhh....
I think making recent mothers drinking their OWN breast milk is enough of a reason to not fly...
I think the way they have used 9-11 to trample our civil rights and human dignity is enough of a reason not to fly..
I can go on for about a week regarding examples of this...
NO ONE SHOULD SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO SUCH JACKBOOTED BULLSHIT!
There is no reason for anyone to do so... It is bad for the earth.. it is bad for your self respect and it is just spreading the fear paradigm...
Not to mention airlines suck.
Give me a car, boat, or train ... anyday.
BennyP @ 103:
I went ahead and called the Oslo branch haer (Army Post) and they said they are busy with a boat party this weekend. Maybe next week though, and if not, I guess I can just come by and bring my cousin.
What you learned wasn't bullshit in school. America was the first European group to throw away monarchs (bad grammar sorry), you were the first to say "All men are created equal!" We still have a king. You have so much gifts and that is why Europe is so sad right now. YOU taught us to be free!! Now stop feeling sorry for yourselves and go clean your rooms, the facism is making the whole house smell bad like socks!
Why does DHS hate the airlines?
Oh! BTW, I can fly for next to nothing as my wife is retired from an airline job.I resist flying because of the TSA bullshit.If something like this ever goes into effect,not only will I never fly again,dual citizenship will be a reality,not just a thought
"scary brown people" ? How on earth did this racist meme get started and adopte ? It's certainly not "ironic" in any way.
Caucasians are white and almost all of them are muslim. Some chechens (the people after whom the term "caucasian"
was specifically named after) have even blown up a Russian airliner. Not to mention that muslim is not a race and there
are plenty of non-arab muslims on the planet (most of the central asian republics and many of them, and even afghans are white/blonde/greeneyed)
Wow, this could replace your passport or your driver's license. Lets give every American one right away to keep the whole country "safe"! What a fucking fantastic idea! PS. I'm going off the grid at that point and then this country has got itself a real terrorist.
WHAT is it going to take for Americans to become outraged and SAY SOMETHING!
If we QUIT FLYING these guys would go away. They would disappear in a cloud of BANKRUPTSY.
And another thing: If we all went to our local city council meetings and county commissions we could get a LAW
ON THE BOOKS SAYING NOBODY TRAINED AT BLACKWATER CAN BE HIRED TO BE A COP IN OUR TOWN/COUNTY.
Town by town, county by county, we can get rid of these bastards.
Want to really kill the airline industry, the hotel industry, the travel industry, then by all means go through with this assinine idea. if ever there were an administration of schmucks, this one takes the cake.
MikeD @ 44:
I believe you're right. "These electronic bracelets will make flying much more convenient for the public." And that's all they have to say; the herd mentality will do the rest.
to insure the safety of the aircraft and flight crew, wouldn't it be easier to just snuff anyone who buys an airline ticket?
Liberalfrombirth @ 22:
Original 60s Star Trek episodes were written by people like Harlan Ellison...
one of the must read authors out there.
" Those who would sacrifice freedom for temporary security deserve neither. "- Ben Franklin
Ron @ 25:
think low powered RF device, the trigger box would have a ten foot radius or similar.
So anybody within say 10 feet of the marshal with the activated trigger box would be stunned.
Take the train!
124 ferrofluid (Obama 08) Says: Ron @ 25:
If one passenger became uncontroolable and someome pushes a button, wouldn’t all of the passengers be shocked?
think low powered RF device, the trigger box would have a ten foot radius or similar.
So anybody within say 10 feet of the marshal with the activated trigger box would be stunned.
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So somebody sixty feet from the nearest button can slice and dice while the passengers fifty feet from him are wfithing in pain.
Take the train!
*writhing
I still think the Archie Bunker solution is the best. Hand everyone a loaded hand gun as they board the plane. /snark
WTF is next? Implanted microchips? oh I'm sorry, Nanochips.
rootriver @ 128:
This is Funny!!
I can just see him saying that.LOL.
They're fucking brutally insane.
By the way, the train is next.
And after that, you'll have to put on your stun bracelet and American flag pin when you leave your home.
You can hear the murmur of approval rippling through the pants-shitter community.
"But if you aren't planning to do something wrong, what do you have to be afraid of?"
Jerry @ 8:
I'm with you, except for the #1 part. The Euro has outpaced the dollar and the Canadian dollar is either ahead of the US dollar or coming on fast. The economy isn't in bad shape, it's in wretched, mind-bogglingly bad shape. The Constitution is dead. Civil Rights are fast becoming Civil Privileges. We're losing not one but two wars against amorphously identified "terrorist" entities in Iraq (there because we opened the door for them) and Afghanistan (there again because, after we chased them out we opened the door and let them back in). Unemployment is rising to October '29 levels. The climate is in the shitter and our solution is more oil, more pollution. Gas prices are ruining us because the price of everything is linked to gas. Our kids are learning that science is just a "theory" and a "theory" is really just an opinion. And so it goes.
See where I'm going with this? In North America, let's all stand up proudly (when so ordered by the man with his finger on the shock-control button) and shout "We're proud, we're happy, we're Americans, we're #2, we're #2, we're #2." (And thanks to the Administration that 10's of millions of Americans voted for, we really are "number two" -- which gives a whole new meaning to the old motto "Don't Tread on Me [or you'll have to wipe me off the bottom of your shoe]"
I won't fly if I have to wear an electric wristlet. But then, in the not so distant future, who will be able to afford it?
How long do you suppose it will be before somebody puts one in their pants, and then becomes intentionally unruly?
It's like the solution to a game of "Clue"!!
"Ummm, OK! I'll guess it's Larry Craig, with the electric wristband, locked in the airplane lavatory refusing to come out... "
is this where brains go to die?
DHS official, Paul S. Ruwaldt of the Science and Technology Directorate, office of Research and Development can eat my shorts. Bushco has enabled Orwell--how literary can your dictatorship be?
Great Idea electronic bracelets; all politicians should have one around their necks and when their popularity gets below, say 40%, it goes off automatically and snaps the head off.
When cam we start issuing them?
I recall these from an old Star Trek episode, except they wore them on their necks. They even had a red and green light on them too. I think Kirk got shocked while shagging some green alien babe.
I for one do not wish to be shocked while shagging an alien.
Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 133:
And I am a little concerned that Obama will say, OK, if you are cool, you won't mind this little compromise. I am very afraid of my own government.
A fantastic idea. But first, might I suggest that we test them further on our leaders. I will keep the controls for a couple months just to make sure the system has no bugs.
Hehehehehe!
James @ 1:
No joke! "You want me to wear um, what?!" (Into cell phone) "Hello, Amtrak?"
This would be great for mccains townhall meetings when he goes off on some other subject instead of answering the question. zap him right back in line.
Linus Bern @ 140:
Yes. An alien race used a distress signal to lure other alien races to their planet. They captured them, put these devices around their necks, would torture them with the device if the captives didn't do exactly what the captors wanted, then the captors fought the slaves to the death in an arena for fun.
In other words, they are just like the insane assholes that run THIS planet.
This concept was proposed and not followed-up on for the transport of prisoners who are already in custody. It has since taken on a hysterical life on its own. As bad as the Bush Administration and the Department of Homeland Security are, I'd suggest getting fired up over the real problems and not the stupid "they're going to make all airline passengers wear shock collars" meme.
At Orwell International Airport, they put those things on when you get off the plane.
Diana Powe...Were you aware that in many 2008 model cars there is a device that can shut off your engine remotely. Guess who has the remote?
Well, here's a hint...it isn't YOU.
Oh, and not to mention the numerous redundant tracking devices currently being used which include:
~Black boxes in new cars
~On-Star
~Navigation systems (factory or retail)
~Your cell phone
~Your computer
~Your landline
~Remote cameras in public places
~RFID chips in your clothing
And more on the way such as biometeric ID cards (which was supposed to be federal mandate by now, but it's pushed out to 2009), implants, facial recognition software, fingerprinting, DNA sampling, retinal scan, iris scan, vascular pattern recognition, and whatever else these maniacal fools come up with. But don't worry about it....I'm sure it's just a passing phase to keep us all safe from...whatever bogey man they tell us to be afraid of. Including the blond haired, blue eyed terrorist rogue agent next door. Who can't wait to strap a bomb on himself and blow you up. After all, freedom isn't free.
The actual letter on the manufacturer's website is headlined "Subject: Improved Border Security
, with the Detention and Possible Immobilization of Detainees, Using the Security Bracelet and ZATSS(tm)" and includes this sentence:
(my emphasis added)
Charles,
Well, as a very recently retired municipal police officer I can tell you who doesn't have any such imaginary remote shut-off device...the police.
The forces against privacy and the use of genuinely helpful security systems are many and often driven by stupid people, but this idea is, sadly enough, just something for hysterics to get worked up about instead of the real threats.
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