Taliban drives NATO, American forces from Afghan post
US forces have abandoned a small base in eastern Afghanistan that was the scene of an intense assault by Taleban fighters in which 9 US soldiers died. The base was quickly occupied by Taleban fighters after the departure of the US forces, according to local government officials.
Nato spokesmen confirmed that US forces pulled out of the base in Wanat village of Nuristan yesterday afternoon.
"We are confirming we have vacated our combat outpost at Wanat," Nato spokesman Mark Laity told The Times. "All these kinds of outposts are temporary. We will continue to maintain a strong presence in the area. We will continue to perform regular patrols in the area."
It looks like we're starting to reap the consequences of essentially outsourcing the fight in Afghanistan/Pakistan to NATO. It's amazing that that fight -- the real front in the war on terror -- has been neglected for so long, especially considering even President Bush concedes it's "probably true" the next attack will originate from there.
Hey, aren't these the guys that defeated the Soviet Union?
Just sayin'...
The three rules of fighting Afghans:
Rule 1: Afghans always win.
Rule 2: Their opponent always loses.
Rule 3: Rinse, wash, repeat.
Billy Shears @ 1:
And Alexander the Great, and Ghenghis Khan, and Tamerlane, and...
you get the picture.
Looks like things are going swimmingly........for the bad guys
It is starting to sound like the Vietnam War .... we fight the enemy over ground and leave after the battle is over, just to return to fight over the ground again.
Thanks to Bush we are now loosing 2 wars and he wants to start a 3rd?
Big GOP lie #325: The Republican party is the party of national security.
War is most profitable the longer it goes on.
Ferocious fighters fighting against an occupation of their country.
I wish the Dems had half their balls fighting the takeover of this country by the fascists in power.
Clif @ 5:
Summarized rule of warring in Afghanistan: Afghans win, you lose.
What do you know- History does repeat itself.
Ruthless "I wouldn't whine if I had Phil Gramm's money" People @ 6:
He doesn't realize he has to clean the sandbox up after playing with his toy trucks.
Another example of the great Commander in Cheif and his war planning. Did God really chose him to rule tthe world, as the GOP once said?? i think GOd sent him to push the GOP the way of the Whigs. Thanks God.
Orangutan. @ 7:
...profitable for some...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rick-jacobs/halliburton-and-cheney-_b_29635.html except for those who loose their lives fighting for war profiteering chickhawk cowards.
"It looks like we’re starting to reap the consequences of essentially outsourcing the fight in Afghanistan/Pakistan to NATO. It’s amazing that that fight — the real front in the war on terror — has been neglected for so long"
I'm not as certain as you seem to be that being in Afghanistan has much to do with the war on terror, whatever that is. I'm not someone that believes the US government orchestrated 9/11. At the same time I don't believe the "official story" about what happened that day either. The 9/11 report is so full of holes it makes the Warren Commission report look like a work of great scholarly research. At the same time much of the 9/11 conspiracy literature with remote controlled planes and controlled demolition is just speculation and flawed reasoning. As someone who believes in the scientific method I have to say that I have no clue who was really behind the attack. I would like to see a second 9/11 investigation with subpoena power that actually looked for the truth. Even assuming for the sake of argument that Al Queda and OBL were behind the attacks I'm not at all convinced that what we are doing in Afghanistan has much to do with getting those guys. Again I just don't know. Oil pipe lines, drug profits, and just asserting US control over that region seem equally likely.
Senator Obama spoke at length yesterday about his positions vis-a-vis Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
MikeD @ 14:
Why aren't they using the mercenaries IE Blackwater, in Afghanistan? Why do they need NATO when they have high paid mercenaries.
MikeD @ 14:
Invading a nation for a non-state group's actions is the old rule of collective punishment. I'd like to think that this nation would have figured out it was a bad idea from observing how well it worked for Rome, Nazi Germany, the USSR, and the Triple Alliance. In that, I'm overly optimistic.
“We are confirming we have vacated our combat outpost at Wanat,”
Vacated? Is that what the kids are calling retreat these days?
LunaStick @ 18:
Maybe tthey should call it foreclosure.
One more SMART???? thing the bush administration has done...they were too arrogant to understand what happened to the Soviet Union when they fought a neverending war. We too are bankrupt and have lost so many precious American lives.
LunaStick @ 18:
I miss the days when it was called "successfully disengaging the enemy," or "advancing backwards."
Ron @ 19:
Ah so! The Taliban has mearly foreclosed on our outpost in Wanat. We must have taken out a subprime mortgage on that base. Ooops.
Marge @ 20:
We financed the guys that killed the USSR. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Russian Federation is repaying the favor. What goes around, comes around.
General_Rennenkampf @ 21:
The Bush folks aren't that good at coining phrases.
Are we still paying Pakistan $10 million to harbor Bin Laden?
LunaStick @ 22:
Certainly one our worst investments.
abarts @ 25:
I thought it was billions.
abarts @ 25:
You gettin' the feeling the Bush admin. is waiting til October to "capture" Bin Laden and then giving the credit to McCain?
LunaStick @ 28:
ABL has been dead for years- catch up.
Ruthless "I wouldn't whine if I had Phil Gramm's money" People @ 6:
Not necessarily. They didn't specify which nation's security.
BennyP @ 29:
Dead, schmead. Like that matters to the Bush people.
BennyP @ 29:
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Osama would be dead soon in any rational scenario. Six-foot Hanbalis with dialysis don't live long in a Hanafi warzone.
Does Mean Jean Schmidt know about this?
Ron @ 16:
My information as to Blackwater is somewhat outdated, but last I heard, there were
approx. 17,000 Blackwater folks/mercenaries/soldiers/(or whatever) in Iraq, however
of that number, most were private security guards for the U.S. Embassy, guards for the governmental personnel within in the Iraqis Gov., and guards for the private contractors
who are doing the interfactural work in Bagdah and other cities. So, in reality, the
number of "mercenaries" available for assistance within Afghan is most likely very, very
limited in numbers...
You evil lib'rul liars! I don't believe this.
John McCain just told us, "I know how to win wars!"
doggiebobo @ 34:
The last estimate I've heard was 130,000 mercenaries in Iraq, not all are Blackwater.
General_Rennenkampf @ 32:
Not only is he a Hanbali in a Hanafi warzone, he'd made a shitload of enemies by propping up the Deobandi-Wahhabi mix called the Taliban. He was dead meat after Torah Borah.
MarktheSpark @ 35:
John McSame learned one thing getting shot down,
Not to do in Aerial Combat what he did right before he got shot down.
That was IT.
Everything else he “learned” has NOTHING to do with winning a war;
Absolutely Nothing;
To paraphrase Gen. George Patton;
“You don’t win a war by becoming a POW,
You win wars by making the enemy a POW.”
Jo @ 8:
Jo
Your first sentence is extremely and intelligently well stated and, in a perfect America, should be repeated every day on the corporate airwaves. But, alas, it will not, since declaring that obvious truth will not fit in with the narrative that those who wear the little American flag on their uniforms must always be the good guys. The government cannot allow the corporate executives to tell the American people that it truly began to unravel for the United States during the Vietnam War when, as George Carlin pointed out during one of his routines, the U.S. became quite adept at bombing the hell out of brown people. What was most egregious was for that ill fated conflict to have been seen in America's homes [hence the term "living-room war"]. The Democrats, as usual,are just as complicit as the Republicans when their "peace candidate" says that he will leave close to 100,000 troops in Iraq after his phased [not immediate] withdrawal finally takes place and redeploys close to 10,000 more troops to Afghanistan [the so-called "good war"], where Afghans will once again feel the wrath of American bombs tearing asunder their homes and families.
America will have a tough decision this fall deciding who is more militaristic, Barack Obama or John McCain. The last thing the United States wishes to do is to leave that oil pipeline unguarded in Afghanistan, the one that stretches from Central Asia to the Caspian Sea.
Erroll @ 39:
Became...adept at bombing nonwhites...in Nam? I'd think the bombings of the Home Islands of Japan should have been ideal enough, meself. The firebombing of Tokyo alone killed more than the immediate death toll of both Atom bombs.
"the real front in the war on terror"
Funniest line ever on C&L!! SilentPatriot I generally like your posts but I have to tell you the real front of the war of terror is Washington DC. That's where it all started and where it will all end. Mark my words. If the goal had been to fight terror we definitly wouldn't have invaded Afghanistan.
"even President Bush concedes" should tell you something about what's going down. Surely the last 7 years haven't been forgotten already? The next terror attack will come from anywhere and hit anywhere the world elites chose. Self fullfilling prophecies are just that. Lets see when and where is the next big military anti-terror exercise in the US like they had in New York and New England back on 9/11 2001? I'm not a conspiracy theoriest, I'm just saying the truth isn't out there...yet.
Well at least they drove them and didn't just tell them to take a cab.
Another great new game sensation from those wonderful folks at PNAC:
Whack - A - Mole!!
You drive those pesky insurgents to ground in Iraq and they reemerge in Afghanistan. Whack 'em there and they'll pop up in Pakistan. Whack in Pakistan and maybe start a nuclear war. It only ends when your country is broke or the earth is coated with radioactive dust.
A fun game for the family, the country.......maybe even the whole world. Give the game that keeps on keeping on!!!!
Elect McSame for more thrills and chills.
in korea we called it a bug out, maby we can get charlie willson to interceed for us with his old friends , nah they are going to rip the shit out of us but good!
Karen @ 15:
Really.... Also didn't future President Obama(WITH ALL OF HIS INEXPERIENCE AND NAIVETE') speak of how we needed MORE troops in Afghanistan?
Erroll @ 39:
Thanks. And you are so right about the Dems. Complicit says it all. The only reason I will vote for the Dem is the SCOTUS.
General_Rennenkampf @ 2:
Ask the Brits. They lost and retreated, and were repeatedly ambushed on the way out. There was one survivor, a doctor.
With the resources we have in Afghanistan, we'd be more likely to repeat Dien Bien Phu than Khe Sanh if we stayed (in Wanut).
General_Rennenkampf @ 9:
But some bloggers think the US alone can do a better job then NATO.
Cas @ 49:
Absolutely, look how well things are going in Iraq since all those Coalition of the Bought bailed out.
How do you spell cut and run???
Huh Meester Booosh?
The 'Tally-Ban' and 'Al-Kaeeeeda' are groups created, trained, and initially (at least) funded by THE US GOVERNMENT. Any news story representing them is a propaganda piece designed to keep as many of us as possible believing the LIE that those groups are comprised of enemies to the US. They may be the enemy to all the regular folks in the USA, but they are enemies created by OUR government to keep all of us in fear.
'Mission accomplished'.
Except for those who know better.
Sorry about all the BOLD at the end. My boo-boo. ;)
General R. at #40
Good point. I would also add to that that under Clinton, it was one of the rare times that the United States did its best to annihilate as many people as it could during the Serbian conflict who were not brown, despite Wesley Clark's claims to the contrary
Chicken Hussein Little - NOT!! @ 50:
I always found it remarkable that the Northern Alliance by themselves did very well against the Taliban. But now the fighting is in foreign hands, things go bad again.
General_Rennenkampf @ 9:
So declare victory and get out already!
mr.ed @ 47:
And did he relate his tribulations to one S. Holmes of Baker Street?
Man, this is really getting scary.
I tell you, bogged down in Iraq, suddenly losing in Afghanistan, worse than broke, over-extended, disrespected & shunned - if there is a credible force out there with designs on hammering the US off "the grand chessboard" the prospects for doing so have never been better.
Lisa Pease posted a short cut to this comedic presentation of "the History of Oil" the other day, and there is great background over there for understanding the dynamics that could finally lead to our ruin.
This is terrible news, if not unexpected.
Wanna have some fun? Visit Fox "News" at http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/07/16/billboards-in-florida-link-democ...
to let them know what you think.
Well .. Nixon went to China ..
Guardian UK: After 30 years, US to send diplomats to Iran
.. rather amazing news ..
.. last week "we" were going to incinerate "them" ..
Bin Laden is not necessarily dead, he is a hero to many Muslims and is likely safely ensconced somewhere near Pakistan. If he does die it will be from natural causes. Penetrating his group of ideological protectors is highly unlikely, and intel on him is almost nonexistent, partly due to incompetence, partly by design.
Afghanistan would have been tricky to democratize but it could have been done, but under the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld wrecking ball approach of maximum military force it, like every enterprise they touch, is destined to fail. And fail miserably, with lots of innocent civilians dying in the process
Diplomacy and international cooperation could have saved Afghanistan. With Al Gore in charge and a team of committed professionals at the helm this all could have turned out much differently.
Instead we have created terrorism and hatred that will last for decades after the necon war criminals are out of power.
Erroll @ 53:
True, that. There's also the Civil War when massed armies of white men killed each other in our nation over the right of a tiny minority to own some brown people. It seems that the West has little issue over killing brown people, or brown people killing brown people, but God forbid a white person should die. Note the relative levels of outrage over Mugabe versus the Congo conflict.
MountainMan23 @ 59:
I don't know what to make of this.....maybe another "hostage crisis" in the making? A reason (they are desparate) to bomb bomb bomb Iran of things go as planned, er, not as planned?
Mongoose @ 58:
I went there, I had to leave shortly thereafter because my IQ was starting to lower, and it's hard getting drool of the keyboard.
Dubya always says he listens to 'the generals on the ground' or 'the commanders in the field' ... it's too bad that he didn't get their last urgent memo. Or, more likely, he got the memo and just ignored it.
Just send some more of our boys in Iraq over there to Afghanistan and let them duck and cover, too. Hey, they're in the neighbourhood, anyway. Right, Dubya ?
Uh, guess we are losing the war on terror all over the place, including here where they are making us surrender our precious constitutional rights by using our own constitutionally elected reps to do their dirty work.
Sorry but anybody that uses the phrase "war on terror" can be immediately dismissed as a blithering idiot. How does one win a war on a political and military tactic?
To quote Gore Vidal: "This is an eternal war against terrorism. It's like a war against dandruff. There's no such thing as a war against terrorism. It's idiotic. These are slogans. These are lies. It's advertising, which is the only art form we ever invented and developed."
well few will worry about the war in afganistan untill american boys and girls start comeing out in body bags loaded on over filled shot up copters, slipping and a slideing ,peeping and a hideing,,
The irony is non-stop these days.
McCain just accused Obama of being stubborn and in denial of "success" that we are having in Iraq and in the war on Terror.
Meanwhile, our troops are dying, retreating, and giving up ground in Afghanistan as the Taliban grows stronger.... right where Obama says we need to reinforce and take the fight to...
Now McCain AND Bush are following his lead.
Looks like Bush and McCain are following the "jr. Senator Obama's proposed policies for America.
SWEEEEEEEEEEET!!!
jax @ 66:
Yeah, I would have thought SP would have gotten it by now: there is no real war on terror.
It's all a sham to keep the people in line, kinda like the "War on Drugs."
It’s amazing that that fight — the real front in the war on terror — has been neglected for so long
I know. And yet, despite the brave efforts of Congressmen Kucinich, Paul, and a handful of others to impeach the President, open a new investigation into 9/11, and find out if America has been on a Continuity of Government emergency plan for the last 7 years, so many of the American people and their "elected representatives" have neglected the fight against the real terrorists and kow-towed to their every whim (FISA, Military Commissions, AUMF, etc.).
LunaStick @ 18:
No shit, in all the movies it's 'About Face! Advance Towards The Rear!'
The really fun part is watching our Canadian troops stick it out day after day, month after month, cleaning up the unfinished mess US troops left behind, hoping that some REMF doesn't accidentally call in a fire mission on them again........ Every time we get a step ahead in hearts and minds, the whole f---ing thing goes backwards again- US bombs on civilians, an entire prison of Taliban fighters escapes......
We have got to learn to let the US fail on their own.
Erroll @ 39:
America will have a tough decision this fall deciding who is more militaristic, Barack Obama or John McCain. The last thing the United States wishes to do is to leave that oil pipeline unguarded in Afghanistan, the one that stretches from Central Asia to the Caspian Sea.
Hoss, that pipeline ain't built, nor are the oil and gas one's contracted thru Turkmenistan, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan and India . . .
Yer history will tell ya that Cheney was told by the TALIBAN (Reagan's Freedom Fighters) in '98 to go Cheney hisself, when he was head of Halliburton.
THAT was about a gas pipeline, maybe it was oil, that the Talibani had signed on to do with Russia, Germany and others. So once 9/11 happened, the FIRST place we did, was Afghanistan. It was NOT to get Bin Laden, it WAS to disrupt the Talibani and scuttle any contracts they had with Russia, China, Germany, France etc, for gas AND oil pipeline controls.
So here we are, and there's announcements of 3-4 new deals for gas and oil contracts from Iran, Iraq and Turkmenistan, to India, Russia, and China. Oh, and USA.
Only, there's NO FUCKIN WAY, we can defend them pipelines, or have the money to pay others to defend them . . . we're 'phooked' in this manner, which is military, political, and economic all rolled in one.
And here we are, getting our clock's cleaned amongst the Afghani Tribes, aka Freedom Fighters, just like Vietnam, all over again.
History has proven it, as others have said . . Imperial Warfare and Occupation don't work . . . it breaks the economic back of the invading emipre.
We are that empire. WE are broken and will break LOTS more.
In 2-5 years, you won't recognize this country. If it holds together. And I don't think it will . . . no matter WHO'S Elected, cuz they are all shills for the 1%.
Harumph.
"It looks like we’re starting to reap the consequences of essentially outsourcing the fight in Afghanistan/Pakistan to NATO"
As an old time fan of C&L I must say I'm amazed how stupid and ill informed this sentence is.
This is like saying " US is reaping the consequences of outsourcing the fight to US".
Do you have any idea who controls NATO ? Who has control over US combat forces in Afghanistan ?
Who lays out the strategy and combat tactics. Who dose almost all the fighting ? Who pays most of the bills ?
I'm not going to answer my own question, google it up your brain can't handle it.
Nato in Afghanistan is actually mis-namer, you should talk about coalition of the willing out of Nato countries.
Why do you think some European Nato "allies" are unwilling to send more troops to Afghanistan and some Nato nations just have a token force in there ? It's because US approach in Afghanistan is fuxx up, approach that is consequence of US public going crazy over casualty numbers (mainly from Iraq but i don't think that has/will register in US public mind).
The only influence Nato-Europeans have over US strategy in Afghanistan is to refuse to take part in it.
To drive down casualty numbers, US has started to aerial-bomb the hell out of the "Taliban" forces and wedding party guests.
All the collectral damage has pissed of the Afghan nation and the "Talibans", US and "Nato" are reaping the consequence of that.
Another very disconcerting aspect of this story:
45 Americans, with 24 (53%) casualties - 9 dead, 15 injured
25 Afghans with 4 (16%) casualties - all injuries
This in a pitched battle in which a complete overrun was narrowly averted only by fierce hand-to-hand combat.
I don't care what the assigned roles of the Afghan soldiers were, when circumstances are that dire, your unit it fighting to keep from being completely wiped out, and your backs are to the wall, every soldier in that outfit should have been front and center "balls-to-the-wall" battling with their "brothers" to the very end.
A casualty rate differential like that draws a very different picture. I have no family in Afghanistan, and I am so mad I'm shaking. I cannot imagine what accompanies the grief those soldiers' families at this moment.
Welcome back to Afghanistan, US.
As a Canadian, it's nice to know US blood is being spilled along with our Canadian forces' deployment got stuck over there while your president fucked the bulk of your forces over to Iraq.
Misery loves company. Ain't it a bitch?
Mark Glass @ 77:
You know what? That post is friggin obscene, and should be deleted, along with is author.
scumbag.
um, you don't announce this unless it's a trap. we'll let the Taliban seep in, and then we'll bomb them much more easily.
$0.02
Damn soldiers must be cowardly Democrats, to cut and run like that . . .
BennyP @ 10:
History does not repeat itself exactly but it comes damn close.
What's happening in Afghanistan today is becoming incredably similar
to what happened in the 1800's when the British came and departed
with nothing to gain.
The internal politics in Afghanistan is something you do not want to
stick a screw driver into. The so called Government (Mr. Karzai) controls
a small portion of the country , and probably does not really control that small area.
Are the US and NATO forces going to stay in Afghanistan for the next 50 years?
Very expensive . Money determines the outcome of war.
Billy Shears @ 1:
Yep and they are about to have another victory, America is broke.
The real front on the war on terror isn't in Afghanistan. It's wherever the PNAC and the neocons are.
A slogan for the short of attention span:
"They Died in Afghanistan, but were killed in Iraq."
Afghanistan war was started on lies too. Look at the Osama bin Laden wanted poster. He is NOT wanted for 9/11...the US has NO evidence that he did it. The Taliban said before the attack that if the US could come up with evidence he did anything they would hand him over...well you know what happened after that. I think people should start to wake up more when it comes to 9/11 but believe me the economic conditions your are in will force you to start paying attention to reality soon.
General_Rennenkampf @ 2:
How do we know we are fighting the Taliban? Aghanistan has no centralized gov't ourside of Kabul, just warring factions. Al Qaeda, who are mostly Arabs, are no more welcome in that country than anyone else. Maybe it's time to think about leaving.
I thought C&L was anti-war? saying Afghanistan is the "REAL-FRONT" on the war on terror is ridiculous. Its a joke whenever military commanders say "We killed 10 taliban". As if they wear uniforms that say "Taliban" on the front. Afghanistan is a disgusting war as is Iraq. Complete US withdrawal must be demanded.
It looks like we’re starting to reap the consequences of essentially outsourcing the fight in Afghanistan/Pakistan to NATO.
Excuse me, but the battle cost the lives of 9 american soldiers. I didn't see any listing of deaths for any soldiers from any other NATO countries.
"Hey man, maybe you haven't been keepin' up with current events, but we just got our asses kicked."
PFC Hudson - "Aliens"
Hmmmm. Look what I found.
http://www.independent.co.uk:80/news/world/asia/revealed-british-plan-to...
Revealed: British plan to build training camp for Taliban fighters in Afghanistan
By Jerome Starkey in Kabul
Monday, 4 February 2008
Britain planned to build a Taliban training camp for 2,000 fighters in southern Afghanistan, as part of a top-secret deal to make them swap sides, intelligence sources in Kabul have revealed. The plans were discovered on a memory stick seized by Afghan secret police in December.
The Afghan government claims they prove British agents were talking to the Taliban without permission from the Afghan President, Hamid Karzai, despite Gordon Brown's pledge that Britain will not negotiate. The Prime Minister told Parliament on 12 December: "Our objective is to defeat the insurgency by isolating and eliminating their leaders. We will not enter into any negotiations with these people."
The British insist President Karzai's office knew what was going on. But Mr Karzai has expelled two top diplomats amid accusations they were part of a plot to buy-off the insurgents.
The row was the first in a series of spectacular diplomatic spats which has seen Anglo-Afghan relations sink to a new low. Since December, President Karzai has blocked the appointment of Paddy Ashdown to the top UN job in Kabul and he has blamed British troops for losing control of Helmand.
It has also soured relations between Kabul and Washington, where State Department officials were instrumental in pushing Lord Ashdown for the UN role.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=60249§ionid=351020403
US-led forces have played a part in a Taliban attack on an Afghanistan prison that set hundreds of militants free, some reports speculate.
Experts in regional affairs believe that Taliban militants attacked the Kandahar prison with the green light from US forces.
They say it is questionable - how could the militants dare attack the prison with US-led troops stationed just northeast of the jail?
The sources also noted that although clashes between Afghan security forces and the militants lasted for several hours, US-led troops did not intervene.
Ordinary people share the idea, asking how is it possible that hundreds of militants could attack a government prison, detonating more than 800 kilograms of explosives and foreign forces show no reaction.
They say the blasts were deafening and awakened everyone in the region. No one can claim not being aware of the attack.
"There are two opinions among Afghans following up the attack; non-political individuals say the Taliban managed to attack the prison with the help of God, while those more political believe that US forces helped them," Ahmad Saadat, a political expert, said.
He compared the foreign forces' struggle with Afghan insurgents to a movie that ends before reaching a conclusion.
Saadat added that Afghans are tired of war and that only a few illiterate people, called Taliban, are fighting foreign forces.
He emphasized that while these groups should oppose foreign forces, they do things in favor of them with consequences that they are not aware of.
He said foreign forces have chosen these militant groups to achieve their own objectives under the pretext of defending Islam.
He also said that since the number of Taliban militants is shrinking, foreign forces planned the attack with Pakistan's assistance to encourage the militants' move.
This political expert believes that the assault on the prison was essentially a US plan. Otherwise, after the first blast, the heavily armed US, Canadian, and Afghan troops would have intervened.
Showing no reaction proves that foreign forces had a role in the escape of more than 1000 inmates, 400 of them Taliban, from the prison.
HE/JG/RA
According to people in Pakistani tribal area who go back and forth to Afghanistan to see relatives, they are already saying that NATO and US forces only have hold over Kabul and going out of these cities mean a definite attack. Karzai's govt does not exit outside Kabul and Taliban have already taken over the rest of the country. Mass is already taking orders from Taliban as they know that Taliban govern most of the country and cannot be messed with. No one has any confidence in Karzai's govt and believe in its hold and future.
Yay!! The good guys are resisting occupatiuon by Imperialist forces! Congratulations for the Rebel Alliance!
Next, to throw Darth Bush down a fucking giant shaft.
Che's Lounge @ 88:
unfortunately the Aliens represent the US and the Resistance represents Hudson.
odanny @ 61:
Dead and Buried. I saw his obit myself from Nov 2001... So who has been releasing the videos?
Ron @ 16:
Because the attack on Afghanistan was done by the UN and the UN does NOT allow Mercenaries in it's combat zone. They cause more problems than they solve.
Jo @ 8:
Hear hear! I think we should all consider it's time to arm ourselves because they certain will kill us to attain their goals.
That's just so amusing. The insane Islamic crazies are kicking the insane Christanic crazies' asses for them. Many, wouldn't it be great is _ALL_ religious terrorist baby killers exterminated each other completely, leaving their intellecual and moral superiors out of their violently insane god delusions?
You claim this is the real war on terror. I hate to inform you that it is about a pipeline thru Afghanistan and nothing more.
DHSmd @ 78:
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