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Trent Lott lies about environmental impact of Katrina

  What else would you expect from a southern-Senator-turned-energy-lobbyist? Lott and his lobbying partner, former Louisiana Senator John Breaux, appeared on MSNBC today to make the joint case for drilling our way out of the energy crisis, and stressed that we need to start, like, yesterday. And if they have to lie in order to help their Big Oil clientele? So be it.

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One point since we're both from the gulf area. We didn't have one drop of oil spilt when we had the biggest hurricane in recent history, Hurricane Katrina.

Oh, the Big Oil apologist lie that won't ever die.There were, in fact, at least 124 oil spills as a result of the devastation wrought by Hurricane Katrina. But just like how "the Chinese are drilling off Florida!!", some of these talking points are just too useful to discontinue.

On another important point, Lott and Breaux represent perhaps the most vivid example of what's wrong with the current culture in Washington. All too often, we see former lawmakers retire (or in some cases leave office before their terms are even finished) so that they can take cushy positions at prestigious firms lobbying their former colleagues on behalf of the interests who can afford the biggest sum.

I like Al Franken's common-sense proposal: Extend the one year waiting period to a lifetime ban. Such a policy could only have beneficial results.



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I thought Trent Lott was running from the police.

Trent Lott doesn't realize he is lying. Sociopaths don't understand. Look at his partner Breaux. He doesn't correct him when he lies. democrat, republican, what's the difference?

"SPILT???!!!"

And what do the neocons say about education?

republicanSScareme @ 1:

I thought Trent Lott was running from the police.

He should have been tarred and feathered for his traitorously corrupt run as majority leader but alas Lott slithered off to do what all disgraced former Repulican pols do, beg for government handouts on behalf of K street.

Don't you know that fact checking isn't good for ratings.

Katrina and Rita didn't just create oil spills, they accelerated the erosion of the Louisiana coast. The impact had much more to do with just oil.

We need to make it illegal for politicians to lie. Simple, really: simply swear them in when they take office, and then keep them under oath the entire time they serve. That way, anytime Lott or any of the others (on either side of the aisle) lie so obviously, we bust them for perjury.

Hey, it's a lot gentler than what the Founders would be doing to these crooked bastards...

Trent ("Mr. White Sheet") Lott lies!? What next? No-bid contracts for services in Iraq for insiders? Dog bites man?

Bud "Terrorist Fist Jab" Hussein @ 3:

"SPILT???!!!"

And what do the neocons say about education?

Education sucks in this nation, though at least the UK sucks even worse than we do.

1/5 of the US population believes the Sun revolves around the Earth, so a politician using bad grammar is not surprising.

You know how to stop this sort of thing? It's very simple. Anyone they're debating-- or even a follow guest-- should say very bluntly that the person in question was lying.

Not "misinformed", not "confused", not "ignorant". Lying.

Say, "Mr. Lott was lying". If the host tries to brush it off or act like it's no big deal, ask them why they would invite a liar like Trent Lott onto their show. Ask them why, if they assume Lott wasn't lying and was only ignorant, why they would invite a fool to talk about something so important.

Start a *fight* when people do these things. You *want* to draw attention to it.

Paul B. @ 6:

We need to make it illegal for politicians to lie. Simple, really: simply swear them in when they take office, and then keep them under oath the entire time they serve. That way, anytime Lott or any of the others (on either side of the aisle) lie so obviously, we bust them for perjury.

Hey, it's a lot gentler than what the Founders would be doing to these crooked bastards...

The Founders would be doing what exactly? Congratulating them? The Revolutionary generation was just as corrupt as this one.

Why didn't Breaux call Lott on his lie instead of sitting there like a bump on a log?

Ruthless People aka "The Whiner" @ 11:

Why didn't Breaux call Lott on his lie instead of sitting there like a bump on a log?

John Breaux gave up giving a shit about Louisiana when he decided to make Maryland his new home. Not at all surprised at his idiocy.

Somewhere Winston Smith sits in his cubicle and types "UNNEWS Hurricane Katrina oil spills. Should read INGSOC Oil Platforms surprisingly sturdy. Big Brother is pleased to announce no environmental damage occurred at all. Double plus good."

The memory hole is alive and well.

We have 2 corrupt oil men in the White House who have tripled oil prices since the Clinton years and now they and their corrupt lying surrogates in the GOP are using the high prices they helped create (and the record profits for big oil) as an excuse to do what they have wanted to do for years, drill, drill, drill, some more, pollute, pollute, pollute some more. One would be hard pressed to find more deceitful, slimier, moral bankrupt creature on the planet than a conservative Republican.

They just keep saying it over and over and over, until it's believed. Ignore the truth about "spilt" oil. And an image to prove it. They must think people are brain dead.

a protohominid @ 13:

Somewhere Winston Smith sits in his cubicle and types "UNNEWS Hurricane Katrina oil spills. Should read INGSOC Oil Platforms surprisingly sturdy. Big Brother is pleased to announce no environmental damage occurred at all. Double plus good."

The memory hole is alive and well.

You give the Bush Administration too much credit to make them capable of the logic-twisting Orwell's world did by a matter of routine.

Breaux is from an oil state, "the Gulf of Mexico." Good one there, idiot.

Lott is just another traitor sent to your TV screen to sell corrupt corporate interests as YOUR interests. He tells us that we are at risk from foreign oil. Is that right? Aren't we at risk from domestic oil too, Mr. not so Lott? So what's the difference in price at the retail pump I'm paying between domestic and foreign oil? Not a penny you bigot, fascist fucker.

We're at risk alright. From treasonous fools like Trent Lott who have sold our asses out and continue shoveling their $800 per hour shit.

Ruthless People aka "The Whiner" @ 15:

We have 2 corrupt oil men in the White House who have tripled oil prices since the Clinton years and now they and their corrupt lying surrogates in the GOP are using the high prices they helped create (and the record profits for big oil) as an excuse to do what they have wanted to do for years, drill, drill, drill, some more, pollute, pollute, pollute some more. One would be hard pressed to find more deceitful, slimier, moral bankrupt creature on the planet than a conservative Republican.

Not at all, on the finding a slimier, more deceitful, morally bankrupt person than the conservative Republican: someone who would enable them while passing it off as something else. The innocence is charming.

Senator Empty Lott is as full of sh*t as Sen Breaux sitting next to him!

Oil did everything to help create Katrina in the first place - wtf planet is he on.

(_(_) @ 16:

They just keep saying it over and over and over, until it's believed. Ignore the truth about "spilt" oil. And an image to prove it. They must think people are brain dead.

Clearly the average American is about as clueless as a cow sitting around waiting for the butcher's axe to fall.

Rob @ 21:

Oil did everything to help create Katrina in the first place - wtf planet is he on.

Huh, what? Liquified dinosaurs created an atmospheric condition that grew really powerful and disrupted a levee system? How's that work again?

Pull off Lott's hairpiece and your see there is
a "Liar's Bald Spot" shiinng there!

it just appears to get the truth out of the
reichwingneocon pundits, the American publie
will have to hire blackwater for some of that
moral free immunity justice. only in this case
the American public would be justified using
their illegal services.

Trent @ 20:

Senator Empty Lott is as full of sh*t as Sen Breaux sitting next to him!

Right on. It's pathetic. Why would anyone think these dingle-berries represent us or anything we need or want?

Charles @ 26:

Trent @ 20:

Senator Empty Lott is as full of sh*t as Sen Breaux sitting next to him!

Right on. It's pathetic. Why would anyone think these dingle-berries represent us or anything we need or want?

Stupidity + that's their job, Constitutionally speaking + wishful thinking?

What part of lying-sack-o-shit do they not understand??

I'm glad they are going off on this lie....
Let the press smackdowns begin!!
BRING. IT. ON!!

From think progress:

Hurricanes Katrina and Rita Caused 124 Offshore Spills For A Total Of 743,700 Gallons. 554,400 gallons were crude oil and condensate from platforms, rigs and pipelines, and 189,000 gallons were refined products from platforms and rigs. [MMS, 1/22/07]

Hurricanes Katrina and Rita Caused Six Offshore Spills Of 42,000 Gallons Or Greater. The largest of these was 152,250 gallons, well over the 100,000 gallon threshhold considered a “major spill.” [MMS, 5/1/06]

In addition, the hurricanes caused disastrous spills onshore throughout southeast Louisiana and the rest of the Gulf Coast as tanks, pipelines, refineries and other industrial facilities were destroyed, for a total of 595 different oil spills. The 9 million gallons reported spilled were comparable with the Exxon Valdez’s 10.8 million gallons, but unlike the Exxon Valdez, were distributed throughout Louisiana, Mississippi, and other Gulf Coast states, many in residential areas. The most massive spills included:

– The Bass Enterprises Cox Bay spill of 3.78 million gallons of oil, the largest spill caused by the hurricanes
– The Murphy Oil spill in Mereaux, LA of 819,000 gallons of oil, contaminating 1,700 homes and the local high school

At the time, the Houston Chronicle described the devastation as “among the worst environmental disasters in U.S. history.”

dadams @ 25:

it just appears to get the truth out of the
reichwingneocon pundits, the American publie
will have to hire blackwater for some of that
moral free immunity justice. only in this case
the American public would be justified using
their illegal services.

I don't know about you, but I can't wait to defend myself against Blackwater employees. It's easy. Just shoot first, because if you don't, they will.

Adrea Mitchell just sits there silent while the lies fly. She is much too passive of an interviewer. We need to call out these lying repub SOB's immediately.

E. Shyhawk...I get those emails. I liked that one. And they're running around telling us it's safe. That there haven't been any accidents and spills. Getting off oil is the safe thing to do. Will it happen? Not until all these oil men are dead.

Why are you wasting space covering Trent Lott? Why? Why don't you cover real issues?

I've reached a point where I feel the need to express my disappointment with MSNBC. Please note that many of the conclusions I'm about to draw are based on cogent and virtually incontrovertible evidence provided by a set of people who have suffered immensely on account of MSNBC. Am I angry? You bet. I don't know what makes MSNBC think that it has its moral compass in tact. Maybe it's been sipping cuckoo juice. The fact of the matter is that MSNBC believes that we should abandon the institutionalized and revered concept of democracy. That's just wrong. It further believes that its canards are Right with a capital R. Wrong again! Anyway, I hope I've made my point, which is that this should not and need not be the case.

Barry @ 30:

Adrea Mitchell just sits there silent while the lies fly. She is much too passive of an interviewer. We need to call out these lying repub SOB's immediately.

Andrea is a joke. She just brings em out and they fill our ears with distortions, fabricated statistics, overblown fear mongering, false marketing, soft power, and lawyer like public relations. She's just staying "on message."

And holy shit, she's married to Alan Greenspan. What do you expect?

E. Skyhawk @ 28:

What part of lying-sack-o-shit do they not understand??

I'm glad they are going off on this lie....
Let the press smackdowns begin!!
BRING. IT. ON!!

From think progress:

Hurricanes Katrina and Rita Caused 124 Offshore Spills For A Total Of 743,700 Gallons. 554,400 gallons were crude oil and condensate from platforms, rigs and pipelines, and 189,000 gallons were refined products from platforms and rigs. [MMS, 1/22/07]

Hurricanes Katrina and Rita Caused Six Offshore Spills Of 42,000 Gallons Or Greater. The largest of these was 152,250 gallons, well over the 100,000 gallon threshhold considered a “major spill.” [MMS, 5/1/06]

In addition, the hurricanes caused disastrous spills onshore throughout southeast Louisiana and the rest of the Gulf Coast as tanks, pipelines, refineries and other industrial facilities were destroyed, for a total of 595 different oil spills. The 9 million gallons reported spilled were comparable with the Exxon Valdez’s 10.8 million gallons, but unlike the Exxon Valdez, were distributed throughout Louisiana, Mississippi, and other Gulf Coast states, many in residential areas. The most massive spills included:

– The Bass Enterprises Cox Bay spill of 3.78 million gallons of oil, the largest spill caused by the hurricanes
– The Murphy Oil spill in Mereaux, LA of 819,000 gallons of oil, contaminating 1,700 homes and the local high school

At the time, the Houston Chronicle described the devastation as “among the worst environmental disasters in U.S. history.”

Did anybody ever provide a source for the 743,700 gallons figure? I never saw one on the Thinkprogress.com comment thread. Either I gave up reading after it was asked 50+ times or the figure is one of those 37% of all statistics made up on the spot.

Charles @ 31:

E. Shyhawk...I get those emails. I liked that one. And they're running around telling us it's safe. That there haven't been any accidents and spills. Getting off oil is the safe thing to do. Will it happen? Not until all these oil men are dead.

What replaces oil? Saying we need to get off it is one thing. What replaces it is another thing entirely.

Barry @ 30:

Adrea Mitchell just sits there silent while the lies fly. She is much too passive of an interviewer. We need to call out these lying repub SOB's immediately.

Mitchell's not calling out anybody. She knows what side her bread is buttered on. The corporate press pulls her strings.

Why don't you guys cover the impeachment issue? There's still time to frog march GWBush and Cheney off to Guantanamo (wouldn't THAT make a pretty picture)!a

WakeUpAmerica! @ 32:

Why are you wasting space covering Trent Lott? Why? Why don't you cover real issues?

I think because this site is called, "Crooks & Liars." I personally believe all three of the goons we have just watched in this video fit that description perfectly.

Umm.....do they even bother having anybody help them out anymore? Or do they just release them into the wild with no cares because they figure the American public will buy just about anything at this point??

http://liberalretort.blogspot.com/

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who cares if they are lying -- hasn't anyone seen the news lately? A-Rod is banging Madonna!

Charles @ 34:

Barry @ 30:

Adrea Mitchell just sits there silent while the lies fly. She is much too passive of an interviewer. We need to call out these lying repub SOB's immediately.

Andrea is a joke. She just brings em out and they fill our ears with distortions, fabricated statistics, overblown fear mongering, false marketing, soft power, and lawyer like public relations. She's just staying "on message."

And holy shit, she's married to Alan Greenspan. What do you expect?

You're kidding , right? Oh fuck you are right. Talk about crooks and liars. The power couple from hell.

General_Rennenkampf @ 36:

Charles @ 31:

E. Shyhawk...I get those emails. I liked that one. And they're running around telling us it's safe. That there haven't been any accidents and spills. Getting off oil is the safe thing to do. Will it happen? Not until all these oil men are dead.

What replaces oil? Saying we need to get off it is one thing. What replaces it is another thing entirely.

The only reason it's the only fuel we can obtain readily is because it's been shoved up our asses for generations. These fuckers have buried other technologies for as long. For one reason or another. They don't want you to have cheap gas any longer. They don't want your currency to be strong. They don't want you to have personal rights. They don't want you to have a choice. Just get back to work and do what you're told, you slave.

It's also great for making Napalm. Just add frozen concentrate orange juice.

When Confederate Trent's not widdlin with his Klan buddies or lobbyin, he's spewing horseshit on national teevee.

I like Al Franken’s common-sense proposal: Extend the one year waiting period to a lifetime ban. Such a policy could only have beneficial results.

There's nothing wrong with former government officials lobbying per se; rather the problem is people who see a political career as a stepping stone to cashing in on the lobbyist gravy train. Lobbyists can, in fact, do a lot of good. For example I'd love to see more former Congressmen lobbying for the ACLU. So, I'd say keep the ban at a year or two, but, for former politician/current registered lobbyists, impose a confiscatory 100% income tax on all income above the level of the salary to which the former office holder would currently be entitled had he remained in his most recent office.

This is one area where I have to admit I was wrong. A conservative friend of mine was trying to justify the price of gas by saying part of the reason was that the gulf rigs were damaged from Rita and Katrina. I thought that they capped those rigs effectively in anticipation of the storms. Unfortunately even those measures did not prevent spillage and damage to refinery facilities. Just more evidence that offshore drilling is not yet environmentally safe. Not sure yet what overall impact the storms had on the price of gas.

Who will be the first "reporter" to call them on this?

Charles @ 44:

General_Rennenkampf @ 36:

Charles @ 31:

E. Shyhawk...I get those emails. I liked that one. And they're running around telling us it's safe. That there haven't been any accidents and spills. Getting off oil is the safe thing to do. Will it happen? Not until all these oil men are dead.

What replaces oil? Saying we need to get off it is one thing. What replaces it is another thing entirely.

The only reason it's the only fuel we can obtain readily is because it's been shoved up our asses for generations. These fuckers have buried other technologies for as long. For one reason or another. They don't want you to have cheap gas any longer. They don't want your currency to be strong. They don't want you to have personal rights. They don't want you to have a choice. Just get back to work and do what you're told, you slave.

It's also great for making Napalm. Just add frozen concentrate orange juice.

Ah, so this "they" is it the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion? :rollseyes: I mean, Jesus, dude, you sound just like a Dommie dittohead like this. Only the Dommie dittoheads see the "they" as the Jewish Marxist Feminazi Conspiracy to corrupt our White Manliness.

What wrong with the people of Mississippi? In fact, what is wrong with the people down South? Their alligence to these buffoons is mind-boggling. Can't they pick up a newspaper or watch anything other than Faux News? No wonder why Mississippi has some of the worst test-scores in the country.

Che's Lounge @ 47:

This is one area where I have to admit I was wrong. A conservative friend of mine was trying to justify the price of gas by saying part of the reason was that the gulf rigs were damaged from Rita and Katrina. I thought that they capped those rigs effectively in anticipation of the storms. Unfortunately even those measures did not prevent spillage and damage to refinery facilities. Just more evidence that offshore drilling is not yet environmentally safe. Not sure yet what overall impact the storms had on the price of gas.

After Katrina hit, it spiked because plenty of rigs were out of commission. Rita hitting didn't help and it sure fucked the US over worse. It should be fixed, by now, though. Three years is a long time to repair an oil rig.

Hey Lott, go check out Chalmette, LA. My hometown. Destroyed by an oil slick spilled from Murphy Oil refinery.

To quote the nurse from "The Verdict"....

"Who are these men??!!"

I'm sick of these so called journalists not bringing up the facts and challenging these idiots. Far left media? Get real, there is no such thing.

Corporate Media at it's best. Get two corporate/elitist/ex-congressman, now lobbyist whores to push for off-shore drilling to make Obama look like he's a fringe-leftist.
Where can we turn? Obama's caving on everything from FISA, Iraq withdrawal, death penalty, gun control, Palestine..., and you get an MSM that still wants to make picture him like a lunatic fringer when he's anything but.

What a complete illustration of corporate media and a two party system united under corporate rule.

Oh, and it's not like Andrea Mitchell is married to a guy whose one of the most influential Neoliberals of all-time who was the King of Deregulation. She's gots to be objective (or maybe objectivist?).

So meteorologists are telling us there will be stronger hurricanes in the future. So let's make sure we maximize the number of rigs we have in the Gulf and Atlantic to ensure spills will be more frequent. Just another way to make money off of volatile swings in the trading of oil as a commodity. Always remember Exxon/Mobil loves you...and your money.

Bud "Terrorist Fist Jab" Hussein @ 3:

"SPILT???!!!"

And what do the neocons say about education?

Actually:

Spilt:
[spilt] –verb a pt. and pp. of spill

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/spilt
http://www.answers.com/topic/spilt
http://www.yourdictionary.com/spilt

P.D. @ 50:

What wrong with the people of Mississippi? In fact, what is wrong with the people down South? Their alligence to these buffoons is mind-boggling. Can't they pick up a newspaper or watch anything other than Faux News? No wonder why Mississippi has some of the worst test-scores in the country.

I'm from the South, and I'm hardly the sort of ignorant idiot who believes these things. Of course, I had more curiosity and interest in a lot of things that most people here take for granted, that may have a lot to do with it, too. As for the ills of Southern education, the South is a poor region with a very small group of wealthy people and a huge mass of poor people, much like the Middle East.

Put 2 and 2 together and you see why bereft of the US, the South becomes Saudi Arabia, Mk. 2.

Merkin @ 52:

Hey Lott, go check out Chalmette, LA. My hometown. Destroyed by an oil slick spilled from Murphy Oil refinery.

To quote the nurse from "The Verdict"....

"Who are these men??!!"

You're from Chalmette? My pities, it seems the people in NO proper are constricting ya'll from the aid as much as they are from here where Rita still hurts us.

Ron @ 53:

I'm sick of these so called journalists not bringing up the facts and challenging these idiots. Far left media? Get real, there is no such thing.

Just another myth. Republicans believe it because they're so weak minded, they need to believe it. If they have no enemy, they would just kill themselves. So they manufacture them.

Working on the dog-bites-man, man-bites-dog theory of newsworthiness, how about only reporting when a Republican tells the truth.

Talk about a slow news day!

P.D. @ 50:

What wrong with the people of Mississippi? In fact, what is wrong with the people down South? Their alligence to these buffoons is mind-boggling. Can't they pick up a newspaper or watch anything other than Faux News? No wonder why Mississippi has some of the worst test-scores in the country.

If you don't know your brainwashed, how do you figure it out?

If oil spills aren't on the news, did they really happen?

Charles @ 61:

P.D. @ 50:

What wrong with the people of Mississippi? In fact, what is wrong with the people down South? Their alligence to these buffoons is mind-boggling. Can't they pick up a newspaper or watch anything other than Faux News? No wonder why Mississippi has some of the worst test-scores in the country.

If you don't know your brainwashed, how do you figure it out?

Heh, funny you'd quote a post on Southern ignorance while using the wrong "you're".

General_Rennenkampf @ 49:

Charles @ 44:

General_Rennenkampf @ 36:

Charles @ 31:

What replaces oil? Saying we need to get off it is one thing. What replaces it is another thing entirely.

The only reason it's the only fuel we can obtain readily is because it's been shoved up our asses for generations. These fuckers have buried other technologies for as long. For one reason or another. They don't want you to have cheap gas any longer. They don't want your currency to be strong. They don't want you to have personal rights. They don't want you to have a choice. Just get back to work and do what you're told, you slave.

It's also great for making Napalm. Just add frozen concentrate orange juice.

Ah, so this "they" is it the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion? :rollseyes: I mean, Jesus, dude, you sound just like a Dommie dittohead like this. Only the Dommie dittoheads see the "they" as the Jewish Marxist Feminazi Conspiracy to corrupt our White Manliness.

No, moron, I'm talking about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission. If you don't see it, I don't care. Just go along with your daily life until it ends.

Oh, and stick to topics you know something about. I'm not one of those topics.

General_Rennenkampf @ 63:

Charles @ 61:

P.D. @ 50:

What wrong with the people of Mississippi? In fact, what is wrong with the people down South? Their alligence to these buffoons is mind-boggling. Can't they pick up a newspaper or watch anything other than Faux News? No wonder why Mississippi has some of the worst test-scores in the country.

If you don't know your brainwashed, how do you figure it out?

Heh, funny you'd quote a post on Southern ignorance while using the wrong "you're".

You never make as spelling error?

Charles @ 62:

If oil spills aren't on the news, did they really happen?

Oh yes, they really, really, really, did happen.

Take a look:

Charles @ 64:

General_Rennenkampf @ 49:

Charles @ 44:

General_Rennenkampf @ 36:

The only reason it's the only fuel we can obtain readily is because it's been shoved up our asses for generations. These fuckers have buried other technologies for as long. For one reason or another. They don't want you to have cheap gas any longer. They don't want your currency to be strong. They don't want you to have personal rights. They don't want you to have a choice. Just get back to work and do what you're told, you slave.

It's also great for making Napalm. Just add frozen concentrate orange juice.

Ah, so this "they" is it the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion? :rollseyes: I mean, Jesus, dude, you sound just like a Dommie dittohead like this. Only the Dommie dittoheads see the "they" as the Jewish Marxist Feminazi Conspiracy to corrupt our White Manliness.

No, moron, I'm talking about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission. If you don't see it, I don't care. Just go along with your daily life until it ends.

Oh, and stick to topics you know something about. I'm not one of those topics.

Hah, the CFR and Trilateral Commission are Bircher territory. You fail at life.

There is no "conspiracy" theory of some all-powerful group constricting society, and if this is what the Left has turned into, I'dve rather ya'll stuck with Stalinism.

Charles @ 65:

General_Rennenkampf @ 63:

Charles @ 61:

P.D. @ 50:

If you don't know your brainwashed, how do you figure it out?

Heh, funny you'd quote a post on Southern ignorance while using the wrong "you're".

You never make as spelling error?

Never said that, simply commenting on an ironic situation. Persecution complexes aren't cute, asshole.

McOily thinks we can solve the problem by drilling lobbyists.

Before I get moving here, let me point out that I, not being one of the many repressive profiteers of this world, think that I like your notions of the South about as much as I like rheumatism. You probably think that too. But most does not think that. Most think that all it takes to start a rabbit farm is a magician's magic hat. The bottom line is that I have put this to you without any gain to myself, because I care about correcting misconceptions.

General_Rennenkampf @ 67:

Charles @ 64:

General_Rennenkampf @ 49:

Charles @ 44:

Ah, so this "they" is it the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion? :rollseyes: I mean, Jesus, dude, you sound just like a Dommie dittohead like this. Only the Dommie dittoheads see the "they" as the Jewish Marxist Feminazi Conspiracy to corrupt our White Manliness.

No, moron, I'm talking about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission. If you don't see it, I don't care. Just go along with your daily life until it ends.

Oh, and stick to topics you know something about. I'm not one of those topics.

Hah, the CFR and Trilateral Commission are Bircher territory. You fail at life.

There is no "conspiracy" theory of some all-powerful group constricting society, and if this is what the Left has turned into, I'dve rather ya'll stuck with Stalinism.

Another of your misconceptions. I'm not on the left. No one in my government represents me. Left, right, left. The second oldest trick of power. Divide and conquer. The first, is of course, religion.

I'll bet I could drive my car for a month on the oil in Trent Lott's hairpiece.

sundog @ 66:

Charles @ 62:

If oil spills aren't on the news, did they really happen?

Let's try that again (must an Apple/Mac thing):

Oh yes, they really, really, really, did happen.

Take a look: http://skytruth.mediatools.org/node/19981

Charles @ 71:

General_Rennenkampf @ 67:

Charles @ 64:

General_Rennenkampf @ 49:

No, moron, I'm talking about the CFR and the Trilateral Commission. If you don't see it, I don't care. Just go along with your daily life until it ends.

Oh, and stick to topics you know something about. I'm not one of those topics.

Hah, the CFR and Trilateral Commission are Bircher territory. You fail at life.

There is no "conspiracy" theory of some all-powerful group constricting society, and if this is what the Left has turned into, I'dve rather ya'll stuck with Stalinism.

Another of your misconceptions. I'm not on the left. No one in my government represents me. Left, right, left. The second oldest trick of power. Divide and conquer. The first, is of course, religion.

So, then....what exactly are you? Ubermensch? (Used in the strict Nietszchean definition of somebody who claims to have triumphed over human values, not the Nazi German-wank definition.)

sundog @ 73:

sundog @ 66:

Charles @ 62:

If oil spills aren't on the news, did they really happen?

Let's try that again (must an Apple/Mac thing):

Oh yes, they really, really, really, did happen.

Take a look: http://skytruth.mediatools.org/node/19981

I thought your first quote was the best. It said it all. See...there's nothing to SEE.

General_Rennenkampf @ 74:

Charles @ 71:

General_Rennenkampf @ 67:

Charles @ 64:

Hah, the CFR and Trilateral Commission are Bircher territory. You fail at life.

There is no "conspiracy" theory of some all-powerful group constricting society, and if this is what the Left has turned into, I'dve rather ya'll stuck with Stalinism.

Another of your misconceptions. I'm not on the left. No one in my government represents me. Left, right, left. The second oldest trick of power. Divide and conquer. The first, is of course, religion.

So, then....what exactly are you? Ubermensch? (Used in the strict Nietszchean definition of somebody who claims to have triumphed over human values, not the Nazi German-wank definition.)

Hold on a second. Your name is the name of good a good Nazi father.

General Nazikampf....I don't fit into your idiotic little boxes. You cannot categorize me.

Charles @ 76:

General_Rennenkampf @ 74:

Charles @ 71:

General_Rennenkampf @ 67:

Another of your misconceptions. I'm not on the left. No one in my government represents me. Left, right, left. The second oldest trick of power. Divide and conquer. The first, is of course, religion.

So, then....what exactly are you? Ubermensch? (Used in the strict Nietszchean definition of somebody who claims to have triumphed over human values, not the Nazi German-wank definition.)

Hold on a second. Your name is the name of good a good Nazi father.

Wait, what? General Pavel Rennenkampf was a Baltic German who fought for the Tsarist Russian state, and offered his services to the Reds only to get a bullet in his head. You fail the Internets for not doing basic research.

General Nazikampf.....I belong to nothing. I'm just a human traveler. Just passing through. Why am I such a problem for you? Don't you have enough trouble dealing with your ego?

Charles @ 77:

General Nazikampf....I don't fit into your idiotic little boxes. You cannot categorize me.

Somebody who fought for the Tsardom and died offering his services to the people the Nazis would later consider subhuman because he was a good patriot to a (under Nazi views) subhuman nation isn't a Nazi.

General_Rennenkampf @ 78:

Charles @ 76:

General_Rennenkampf @ 74:

Charles @ 71:

So, then....what exactly are you? Ubermensch? (Used in the strict Nietszchean definition of somebody who claims to have triumphed over human values, not the Nazi German-wank definition.)

Hold on a second. Your name is the name of good a good Nazi father.

Wait, what? General Pavel Rennenkampf was a Baltic German who fought for the Tsarist Russian state, and offered his services to the Reds only to get a bullet in his head. You fail the Internets for not doing basic research.

You had better do some additional research on the family name.

Charles @ 79:

General Nazikampf.....I belong to nothing. I'm just a human traveler. Just passing through. Why am I such a problem for you? Don't you have enough trouble dealing with your ego?

Don't you have enough work to do creating a utopia, Adrian Veidt?

Charles @ 81:

General_Rennenkampf @ 78:

Charles @ 76:

General_Rennenkampf @ 74:

Hold on a second. Your name is the name of good a good Nazi father.

Wait, what? General Pavel Rennenkampf was a Baltic German who fought for the Tsarist Russian state, and offered his services to the Reds only to get a bullet in his head. You fail the Internets for not doing basic research.

You had better do some additional research on the family name.

The Rennenkampfs were Germans who fought for Russia, the worst sin in the eyes of someone like Hitler. I was using Pavel Rennenkampf as my Rennenkampf, so comparing me in a libelous manner to the German version of 19th Century America is an insult. [Deleted. Abusie. Site Monitor]

General_Rennenkampf @ 82:

Charles @ 79:

General Nazikampf.....I belong to nothing. I'm just a human traveler. Just passing through. Why am I such a problem for you? Don't you have enough trouble dealing with your ego?

Don't you have enough work to do creating a utopia, Adrian Veidt?

I'll create my own. You worry about yourself. The topic is drilling for a toxic substance called oil off of our coast. Get back on the topic or leave.

Charles @ 84:

General_Rennenkampf @ 82:

Charles @ 79:

General Nazikampf.....I belong to nothing. I'm just a human traveler. Just passing through. Why am I such a problem for you? Don't you have enough trouble dealing with your ego?

Don't you have enough work to do creating a utopia, Adrian Veidt?

I'll create my own. You worry about yourself. The topic is drilling for a toxic substance called oil off of our coast. Get back on the topic or leave.

You first, it was you that hijacked it, after all with this Nazi libel and then didn't have the balls to provide sources.

[Deleted. Abusive. You two done with the name-calling yet? Site Monitor] I don't have a horse.

Lott: "No one wants to unnecessarily endanger pristine areas . . ."
Lott and his g.o.p. enablers don't give a rats a@@ if they endanger pristine areas by necessity. There's a reason why the Santa Barbara oil spill is a faint memory.

If he didn't pander to the OIL cartel he wouldn't be able to slather it into that invincible iron plated Hair-do.
You could bounce bullets off of his head.

I actually saw this exchange while surfing channels. Andrea just sat there and didn't utter a word.

abarts @ 89:

I actually saw this exchange while surfing channels. Andrea just sat there and didn't utter a word.

It must be against the rules to bring up facts and you thought they were in the news business.

For all the world to see.

Lots and lots of oil in the water: http://skytruth.mediatools.org/node/19981

The worst part of the interview was that "journalist" Andrea Mitchell didn't challenge their ridiculous assertions once, and then capped it off with what sounded like the grown-up equivalent of "wow, that is so totally awesome!". Pathetic.

Trent Lott: Professional Christian/Liar

who cares what trnt lot says?

swampfox @ 94:

who cares what trnt lot says?

somebody.... apparently does he is on the idiot box

I think you pretty much me, and had it right at Trent Lott Lies.... All the rest are just the sordid details...............JD

had me had me dang it... Oh well, ya only really get one good chance at snark and I just hit submit without checking first... bummer.... Still, Trent Lott lies doesn't change.....JD

I'd be scared to death to buy a used car from lott. What a pristine piece of bullshit. OK, they lie over and over again about "not one single drop" bullshit. WHEN is the MSM going to call them on this????

They get away with it....nobody calls them on it...and the viewing public believe it's true.

Wake up America, you are some dumb ass ignorant people, and these peckerheads like it that way.

Trent and John , partners in an Alabama AG sense !

It never ceases to amaze me at the complete ignorance of the general public and the right wing media. How they get from point A to point B whether it is voting or reporting has left us with this horrible nightmare that we must continue to endure. The public does cling to a lie like a lifesaver. There are still 25-29% think Bush is doing a great job. And 50% plus that think McCain makes a better commander-in-chief than Barack. And if anyone really listened to him would know how stupid McCain is on every subject. And Trent Lott sold his soul so many years ago.

I'm fast coming to the conclusion that when I see anyone with --hair that never moves, pre-molded, Ken-doll hair-- they're a whacked-out right-wing conservative, and I needn't listen, so I didn't. Was I worng?

what I don't understand is that every time these boneheads say that why doesn't anyone produce film to show the damage off shore.

Heres info on the satellite images showing the damage and oil spill after the hurricanes!!

Spread the links and the word EVERY time you read the lie about no oil spills!!

What else would you expect from a southern-Senator-turned-energy-lobbyist?

asked and answered!

trent , how much oil do you use in your toupe , talk about slicked back .

Ruthless People aka "The Whiner" @ 12:

Why didn't Breaux call Lott on his lie instead of sitting there like a bump on a log?

Just who do you think Breaux is to Lott?

The opposition? Yeah right!!!

General_Rennenkampf @ 58:

Merkin @ 52:

Hey Lott, go check out Chalmette, LA. My hometown. Destroyed by an oil slick spilled from Murphy Oil refinery.

To quote the nurse from "The Verdict"....

"Who are these men??!!"

You're from Chalmette? My pities, it seems the people in NO proper are constricting ya'll from the aid as much as they are from here where Rita still hurts us.

First, to General & Merkin, I hope that you are both recovering from the disastrous 2005 hurricanes. However, the comment from the General about 'the people in NO proper', along w/the jaw-dropping assurances of 'not one drop of oil spilled from Katrina' that has lately been flooding the airwaves, makes me wonder exactly when did 'we' slip through the 'Looking Glass'? Evidently, what's up-is down, disasters of 'historical' magnitude are the fault of the victims...all we have to do is click our ruby red slippers 3 times and all is well in the world, etc. Commonsense, logic, along w/basic fact-checking & information has all but disappeared from the msm media, nothing left except those bumper-sticker talking-points. Are there no investigative reporters anymore? I have the computer skills of a toddler and find it simple enough to find out information by using the search buttons on the computer. You get about a million entries and read a few dozen different ones and voila...you can usually get a general idea of the facts hidden somewhere. But alot of people are too busy trying to maintain their existence and rely on the MSM for their info...so what you see, is what they are getting. One needs only to click on http://www.katrinadestruction.com/images to get a general idea that most of the talking points about Katrina/Rita/NO Fed. levee failure for the past 3 yrs don't hold water, but the misperceptions continue. If I can do it w/my limited skills, why is it such a problem with the media to make a little attempt at relaying facts...many of them probably have the actual footage in their archives. One other thing, if what they propose is the best option...why aren't there verified experts (not the pretend ones) rather than politicians and lobbyists and their shills talking the FACTS?

General_Rennenkampf @ 23:

Rob @ 21:

Oil did everything to help create Katrina in the first place - wtf planet is he on.

Huh, what? Liquified dinosaurs created an atmospheric condition that grew really powerful and disrupted a levee system? How's that work again?

Are you an idiot or something?

Difference here is that you can lie on TV and get the bulk of the people watching to just sit there and take it. Unfortunately when stuff is Quicktime on computer, all the viewer has to do is Google Hurricane Katrina oil spills and get the whole story about 20 times over from 2005 to the present. Hardly even slows down the porn downloads. Eventually, nightly news stations are going to need to put laptops on their interview desks and at least appear to do due dillegence. "Mr Lott, if you look at your monitor to the right you will see 50 stories putting the post hurricane oil spills at some where between 11 million and 700 thousand gallons. Oh, and this one puts any spill over 100,000 as 'major'. Are you refuting all of these reports? Are you telling the truth?" It isn't gotcha journalism, it's just getting the story straight. Without that, they are just being complicit in the lie.

GE and GE/NBC have no shame. Or honor.

What I find to be most deceitful is the fact that they represent Lott as "former Senator" but fail to lsit his current job of "Oil industry lobbyist". Is it any wonder that the misinformed public believes they're receiving unbiased information?

Rob @ 108:

General_Rennenkampf @ 23:

Rob @ 21:

Oil did everything to help create Katrina in the first place - wtf planet is he on.

Huh, what? Liquified dinosaurs created an atmospheric condition that grew really powerful and disrupted a levee system? How's that work again?

Are you an idiot or something?

No, simply someone that fails to see how a substance found in the Earth can contribute to an atmospheric condition, one specific atmospheric condition, and why that substance did not contribute equally for two years running. Did the oil lose its mojo in 2006 and 2007? Or are you just attributing to liquified dinosaurs what the Fundies attributed to gay pride parades?

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