Speaker Pelosi: God bless President Bush, that "total failure"

In an interview to be aired this Sunday on "Late Edition," Nancy Pelosi, in response to a quote from Bush about the Democratic Congress' failures, doesn't hold back her true feelings for the lame duck President.

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"God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States -- a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject."



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More words. I'm still waiting for actions.

It took her 2 years to understand that? Says all you need to know about Americans and our politicians.

Nancy is no shining beacon herself. Like a faithful abuse spouse of George, she is the enabler.

Yea, No thanks to her and congress that give the total failure everything he wants.

Pot and kettle here? This statement (while accurate) is coming from the Congressional "leader" who has so far failed to lead her party to do anything meaningful since they took Congress back? From Pelosi, who is such a pitiful, weak, irrelevant excuse for a lawmaker that she can't even fight the least popular president in American history?

I agree with one thing in that article: Congress might as well go out back and have a smoke until January because they sure as fuck aren't going to get anything done this year.

Watched her yesterday on CNN, almost fight words

Get rid of her. She's hopeless. Get a Democrat in there.

seeing/hearing this woman is starting to make me as angry as seeing/hearing gw . . . i don't want to hear another sentence out of her unless it contains the words "impeachment is on the table"

Anyone watch "the Honey mooner"? Where the couple bicker with each other throwing their best taunt at each other?

That's our Nancy and George show!

A few questions for everyone here:

Who is your Representative?

Did you vote for that Representative?

If you voted for your Representative, do you think that s/he is better than the average Representative now serving?

Who did your Representative, if a member of the Democratic caucus, support for the Speaker's chair when the Dems won the House back from the GOP in '06?

Who should your Representative supported for the Speaker's chair, and why should they have supported that candidate?

He has no idea?

Here's an idea, Nancy .....impeach the bastard!

He might be a complete failure................ but she's hardly a success.

Too little, too late. Time to send this pensioner back home to enjoy the twilight years.

Getting nothing done is the best I could hope for! instead we pass the FISA bill and allow the Bush administration not show up for a court order sub committee hearing.

Nancy, Nancy, Nancy too much plastic surgery. You constantly looked like you are startled.

Sweep up? Didn't you mean cover up? Just asking.

Pelosi is saying this to years to fucking late.

She doesn't deserve to be speaker of the house.

This is a woman who was briefed on the fact that the administration was spying on us without warrants, in violation of FISA, and let it slide. She took impeachment "off the table". And she' handed this "total failure" everything he asked for in a bill that didn't need to be passed, and which will make certain that we never find out the degree of criminality this administration has been operating out of.

Pelosi doesn't represent us. She represents the money. If she represented us, you'd have to call her a total failure.

I still can't believe she tried to block Rove getting subpoenaed.

Did she ever explain that one?

Ahhh ... I am just sitting back with a cold one thinkin' of the good ole days ... back in the time of the "100 Days" and all the great wonderful things we were about to regain now that a Democrat was in charge of the Congressional zoo ...

We knew that Bush was a total failure .. and America gave a HUGE message and kicked out the Repubs....

Fast Forward 500 days... Is she talking about the total Congressional failure? Because a Presidential failure is OLD news ... it's like... so, last election!

MAN - SHE SHOULD BE IMPEACHED!

Total Failure #2 taking on Total Failure #1. BOTH of them are equally responsible for the end of America.

and bless nancy's pointed little head

Pelosi has shown herself to be nothing more then an empty suit.

If Bush is such a failure then what does that make Pelosi and the Democratic majority if they can't stand up to him. She has certainly earned her approval rating

I can't stand Nancy Pelosi. She is every bit the failure and the criminal that George Bush is.

Sorry, Nance, but you don't pass the smell test, and your reasons for waffling and bowing in front of the same administration you claim to hate don't make any sense. You may not be up there with Mr. Bush, but I wonder how history is going to look on Conyers and Pelosi, the strange little jellyfish afraid to do their jobs.

Pelsoi should know - she is a total failure herself.

The motivation for blocking investigations into Bush lawbreaking

The most irritating element of her comments is that in reality Bush has achieved everything his corporate masters have asked of him.He still gets everything he wants thanks to Pelosi and company.She's just as shameless as Bush,spouting this kind of empty meaningless nonsense.

Billy @ 25:

Pelsoi should know - she is a total failure herself.

The motivation for blocking investigations into Bush lawbreaking

File not found..Salon

Just looked it up........... Pelosi is Italian for scum.

just because pelosi is a failure, albeit less of a failure than the president, does not make her statements any less accurate.

she is only up against executive privalege,signing statements,secrecy and followed a (R) majority
i'm not happy about it either not so sure it's all her fault.

God bless'em both ... worthless fuckers.

remember, folks, it's pelosi's jobs to herd cats together. can you imagine trying to get conservative southern democrats to support so-called 'san francisco values'?

good luck with that!

Pelosi makes me want to puke. To be sold out by Bush is to be expected but to be sold out by the top Democrat boils my blood.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/985421.html

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/08/10204/

To borrow from Code Pink: TAKE HER TO THE HAGUE AND TRY HER AS WAR CRIMINAL!!!

I still remember her running on (before the 2006 elections) how she was going to "drain the swamp".

Most empty campaign slogan of all time.

Bush plus Nancy "Impeachment Is Off The Table" Pelosi equal two absolute failures.

God DAMN Her.

Obama isn't running for Blamer-in-Chief;

He better be ready to do something.

harley @ 18:

I still can't believe she tried to block Rove getting subpoenaed.

Did she ever explain that one?

thats an interesting factoid, yes she does need to explain that.
And the excuse of relations between WH and House doesnt hold water.

Jeez Nancy, you had the balls to say it, then why not impeach? Do we have to have an International Tribunal or what? I hope Cindy Sheehan gets enough signatures. Sorry Nancy, you gotta go!

If she feels that way why won't she relieve America of his regime? Is it because she's afraid?

paranoia @ 3:

Nancy is no shining beacon herself. Like a faithful abuse spouse of George, she is the enabler.

Her congress polls lower than Bush. What does that say about her and the job the American people think she's doing?

She needs to quit telling us shit we already know and live up to constitutional responsibilities and do what the people elected her to do by putting impeachment on the table.

Yet she STILL WON'T IMPEACH HIM!!

You know who else is a failure, Nancy Pelosi? Who else has lost all credibility with the American people? I'll give you three guesses, but the first two don't count.

In your quest for "bipartisanship", you have made yourselves complicit with this administration, Nancy. That will be quite a legacy your (and Harry Reid's) Congress will have to live down.

And you have no weapon now with which to fight. Congratulations...

God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States — a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject.

Nancy, for goodness sake, we're not talking about some loser nephew failing out of junior college, getting fired from Carls' Jr. and getting his driving license taken away for too many points. We're talking about the President of the United States who has broken so many laws its hard not to dismayed by the so-called "balance of powers" HA!. If he is unaccountable, who is? Stop being guided by polls and make a stand, DO SOMETHING! We have to know that someone is in charge of making rational decisions. Is it you? Certainly doesn't look like it.

I have never given money to a campaign before, but I think I might give Cindy some, and she's not in my district.

a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject.”

Not only does that describe boosh, it describes Queen Nancy

And her tea and crumpet approach to betraying her country.

Poor, poor, Nancy. Let's see if I have this correct. In Nancy's opinion the President is an incompetent in matters of the economy, war, energy, and in fact in any matter. Yet, she willingly protects this "total failure" from impeachment. So Nancy is comfortable having an idiot hold the most powerful seat in our government and be the "Decider" on matters of war, foreign relations, the economy, the environment, and of course that little piece of paper we call the Constitution.

Once you admit Bush is an idiot, and you refuse to use your Constitutional power to do anything about it, you're equally culpable.

for those asking for impeachment:

does your congressperson support it? if not, then i wouldn't completely blame nancy. and i would call your congressperson right away.

Andy K Jong Il @ 10:

A few questions for everyone here:

Who is your Representative?

Did you vote for that Representative?

If you voted for your Representative, do you think that s/he is better than the average Representative now serving?

Who did your Representative, if a member of the Democratic caucus, support for the Speaker's chair when the Dems won the House back from the GOP in '06?

Who should your Representative supported for the Speaker's chair, and why should they have supported that candidate?

My rep is absolute rock bottom. But he's a Repug, so it's almost forgivable -- he's too dumb to be anything but a bottom feeder.

I would say anyone with a spine not ruled by fear, a sense of absolute commitment to the principles and constitution of this country, and someone not afraid to lose his/her damn political job would make the best leader of the House or Senate.

It's like the kettle calling the pot black.

Andy K Jong Il @ 10:

A few questions for everyone here:

Who is your Representative?

Did you vote for that Representative?

If you voted for your Representative, do you think that s/he is better than the average Representative now serving?

Who did your Representative, if a member of the Democratic caucus, support for the Speaker's chair when the Dems won the House back from the GOP in '06?

Who should your Representative supported for the Speaker's chair, and why should they have supported that candidate?

Actually, my rep is Pelosi.

The primaries here in SF were cringe-inducing (if noticeable). Naturally, nobody was going to wage a serious challenge to her, and the woman on the ballot running against her wasn't all that impressive.

Pelosi is on the right side. I wish I could have proudly cast a vote for her. She is progressive. But her non-strategy for dealing with the runaway executive is infuriating.

Is there a way of replacing this airheaded bimbo with Rahm Immanuel?

Scratch the airheaded bimbo, she's a freakin' idiot.

I like airheaded bimbos.

Billy @ 24:

Pelsoi should know - she is a total failure herself.

The motivation for blocking investigations into Bush lawbreaking

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Why don't the media ask her how she can justify taking impeachment off the table.

The only answer I have heard from her was that the Republican would love for her to try to impeach George. So if they are for it, then whats holding Pelosi back?

It's like Kobe Bryant calling Shaq black.

He couldn't have done it without her.

Jo @ 26:

Billy @ 25:

Pelsoi should know - she is a total failure herself.

The motivation for blocking investigations into Bush lawbreaking

File not found..Salon

just lop off everything after "index.html" in the URL. you know how the Internet works by now. :P

We should have a moneybomb for Cindi Sheehan and throw that trash out of office. I can't belive her district doesn't get rid of her right away.

paranoia @ 51:

Why don't the media ask her how she can justify taking impeachment off the table.

The only answer I have heard from her was that the Republican would love for her to try to impeach George. So if they are for it, then whats holding Pelosi back?

Her own culpability. That's what. She was brought into complicity when the Repubs read her in to learn about and watch CIA torture videos.

No weak and spineless.

God damn that total failure and your legacy is pathetic too.

bryancri @ 45:

for those asking for impeachment:

does your congressperson support it? if not, then i wouldn't completely blame nancy. and i would call your congressperson right away.

I have called Tom Allen time and time again to support impeachment. If Nancy called for impeachment she would have the votes. She is the Speaker after all.
My god, what a cheer she would get... she would hear it all the way from Maine to California!

Well, while I agree with Pelosi (except for the God bless him bit) that Bush is a total failure, she should be careful casting stones whilst living in that glass house of hers. So many people wildly cheered her becoming Speaker, believing this was the beginning of change for the better, only to be abysmally disappointed by the subsequent lack of action she has exhibited thus far. Yes, I know impeachment would be impossible, given the numbers even with a Democratic majority - but her lack of any demonstrable leadership qualities has been a betrayal of the people who put her there... we, the People.

We have to vote everybody out. These politicians are the worst of the worst. They get in there for years and forget their obligation to the American people. They have been in to long and are to entrenched with big business and fellow Pols.

Howabout "I'm a Total Looser" Nancy? GW got everything he wants FROM YOU. Plus FISA.

What is it about Georgie boy? Does he have a black book or something? If it were Clinton...

Kathy @ 61:

Howabout "I'm a Total Looser" Nancy? GW got everything he wants FROM YOU. Plus FISA.

He got more than he asked for from these clowns. Stories have it the Repubs shot high, expecting the Dems to bargain them down on FISA. But the Repubs were simply amazed to all they asked for and much more than they really expected.

If Nancy called for impeachment she would have the votes.

sorry, pal.

2 little, 2 late...

Otay @ 46:

Andy K Jong Il @ 10:

A few questions for everyone here:

Who is your Representative?

Did you vote for that Representative?

If you voted for your Representative, do you think that s/he is better than the average Representative now serving?

Who did your Representative, if a member of the Democratic caucus, support for the Speaker's chair when the Dems won the House back from the GOP in '06?

Who should your Representative supported for the Speaker's chair, and why should they have supported that candidate?

My rep is absolute rock bottom. But he's a Repug, so it's almost forgivable -- he's too dumb to be anything but a bottom feeder.

I would say anyone with a spine not ruled by fear, a sense of absolute commitment to the principles and constitution of this country, and someone not afraid to lose his/her damn political job would make the best leader of the House or Senate.

Mine isn't rock bottom(Vern Ehlers, who actually, as the head of whichever committe that controls such things, got rid of Freedom Fries and Toast for their French equivalents) but he's a Republican, and I've never voted for one of those. Hell, in my life this district was represented by a Dem from '75 (when I was ten) until '78. This is Jerry Ford's old district.

As for spinelessness- that's not the prerequisite the Dems are really looking for, is it? Because if you want spine and fearlessness, I could point to Rahm Emanuel. I don't want that guy as Speaker.

And not afraid of losing his or her job? The speakership job is a rather partisan position, no? Elected from amongst their caucus for their leadership and their ability to actually contribute to the re-election of those who supported their candidacy?

btw, does tom allen support impeachment?

Yup... I had high hopes for her till she "set her table..." and impeachment wasn't on it.

Time for her to do a little FLIP-FLOPPIN' of her own. This is the year for it. Everybody's doin' it!

Ahh yes, Pelosi and Bush. The leaders of the Do-Nothings and the Know-Nothings.

Nancy was on the out side looking in until she got the top job. Yes the White House then made her an offer she couldn't refuse and publicly said she would not Impeach Bush/Cheney for their crimes, she would pray for them. Yes money does make a person follow orders and Nancy got paid big time. Diane Feinstein was slick she took her kick backs by having the White House give her husband over paid contracts. Dodd got kick backs and a second home with the housing fraud. Nancy has shown she is weak and isn't protecting the American people. With so many corrupt Law Makers it's time they open their bank accounts to see just how many have been paid by the White House.

The leaders of the Do-Nothings and the Know-Nothings.

you think pelosi is as awful as bush? you have got to be kidding me.

Please, Nancy, continue. You were saying...?

Assassin @ 54:

Jo @ 26:

Billy @ 25:

Pelsoi should know - she is a total failure herself.

The motivation for blocking investigations into Bush lawbreaking

File not found..Salon

just lop off everything after "index.html" in the URL. you know how the Internet works by now. :P

Got it! Thanks!

Karen @ 48:

Andy K Jong Il @ 10:

A few questions for everyone here:

Who is your Representative?

Did you vote for that Representative?

If you voted for your Representative, do you think that s/he is better than the average Representative now serving?

Who did your Representative, if a member of the Democratic caucus, support for the Speaker's chair when the Dems won the House back from the GOP in '06?

Who should your Representative supported for the Speaker's chair, and why should they have supported that candidate?

Actually, my rep is Pelosi.

The primaries here in SF were cringe-inducing (if noticeable). Naturally, nobody was going to wage a serious challenge to her, and the woman on the ballot running against her wasn't all that impressive.

Pelosi is on the right side. I wish I could have proudly cast a vote for her. She is progressive. But her non-strategy for dealing with the runaway executive is infuriating.

Karen, I agree with almost everything you just wrote, but that's the norm. Not to sound like a broken record, but where are the 67 votes to convict in the Senate? I've got my fair share of idealism, but it's tempered by realism. And the reality is that you could impeach, but never convict- and the outcome would be a pyrrhic victory.

But thanks for being yourself, and admitting that there are shades of gray to be seen. :D

when i lived in california, i gave pelosi my vote. she said all the right things and was a progressive. i think since she got the leadership position she is more concerned with the calculus of winning elections. i liked her better when she wasn't in the leadership position.

ysbaddaden @ 49:

Is there a way of replacing this airheaded bimbo with Rahm Immanuel?

Scratch the airheaded bimbo, she's a freakin' idiot.

I like airheaded bimbos.

So you want to replace an ineffective idiot (Pelosi) with an ineffective asshole (Emmanuel)

Good grief...

Jackie @ 68:

Nancy was on the out side looking in until she got the top job. Yes the White House then made her an offer she couldn't refuse and publicly said she would not Impeach Bush/Cheney for their crimes, she would pray for them. Yes money does make a person follow orders and Nancy got paid big time. Diane Feinstein was slick she took her kick backs by having the White House give her husband over paid contracts. Dodd got kick backs and a second home with the housing fraud. Nancy has shown she is weak and isn't protecting the American people. With so many corrupt Law Makers it's time they open their bank accounts to see just how many have been paid by the White House.

Could you please link that proof?

Andy K Jong Il @ 65:

As for spinelessness- that's not the prerequisite the Dems are really looking for, is it? Because if you want spine and fearlessness, I could point to Rahm Emanuel. I don't want that guy as Speaker.

I stick with requiring a spine. As for Rahm Emanuel, see my comment about the constitution and principles of this country.

And not afraid of losing his or her job? The speakership job is a rather partisan position, no? Elected from amongst their caucus for their leadership and their ability to actually contribute to the re-election of those who supported their candidacy?

A politician should consider their jobs a temporary duty. I am referring to the fear they have of going against the group, when the group is doing something wrong, just to save their own job. Doing what those who elected you want is important, but doing something unconstitutional just to please the temporary passions to be re-elected is unforgivable.

constituent @ 29:

she is only up against executive privalege,signing statements,secrecy and followed a (R) majority
i'm not happy about it either not so sure it's all her fault.

Pelosi: “God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States..."

God bless Bush? God bless the hundreds of thousands of innocent people Bush has gotten crippled and killed. God may damn Bush but I don't think a blessing from God is in the cards.

harley @ 17:

I still can't believe she tried to block Rove getting subpoenaed.

Did she ever explain that one?

Sometimes she forgets the role and reverts to her natural state: GOPer.

No faster way to lose credibility than lying. And its far past time to retake the constitution and the elected officials who swore an oath to maintain its credibility: Impeach.

And FUCK you, Pelosi, for the total failure YOU are.

Wisterley @ 7:

Get rid of her. She's hopeless. Get a Democrat in there.

She IS a Democrat...that's the point. The answer is simple: www.cindyforcongress.org/

When is the revolution? Give me a date and time.

impeach pelosi

Otay @ 79:

Andy K Jong Il @ 65:

As for spinelessness- that's not the prerequisite the Dems are really looking for, is it? Because if you want spine and fearlessness, I could point to Rahm Emanuel. I don't want that guy as Speaker.

I stick with requiring a spine. As for Rahm Emanuel, see my comment about the constitution and principles of this country.

And not afraid of losing his or her job? The speakership job is a rather partisan position, no? Elected from amongst their caucus for their leadership and their ability to actually contribute to the re-election of those who supported their candidacy?

A politician should consider their jobs a temporary duty. I am referring to the fear they have of going against the group, when the group is doing something wrong, just to save their own job. Doing what those who elected you want is important, but doing something unconstitutional just to please the temporary passions to be re-elected is unforgivable.

Idealistic, and there's nothing wrong with that, but the fact of the matter is that Americans send incumbents back to DC in droves.

I'm glad you even read my questions, btw. I'm asking them for a reason: I want to see how many people still support their own selections while dismissing everyone else's choices. Pelosi, Emanuel, Ehlers...They must be doing right by someone with a vote, right?

bryancri @ 46:

for those asking for impeachment:

does your congressperson support it? if not, then i wouldn't completely blame nancy. and i would call your congressperson right away.

Clinton got impeached over blow job related ridiculousness. What is this bureaucracy that springs up against impeachment when we gravely need it? I'm sorry, but Dems that say they can't do anything, are lying. At the very least they should be voicing their outrage every single day. Not one of them was elected to roll over to a different party with an extremely different agenda, yet the majority are betraying us exactly in that fashion.

Spitting in the wind

bryancri @ 72:

The leaders of the Do-Nothings and the Know-Nothings.

you think pelosi is as awful as bush? you have got to be kidding me.

Yes I think she is a traitor! There is a reason that British agents were treated better by the IRA than traitors from within the ranks.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/985421.html

http://www.commondreams.org/ar...../08/10204/

Read these two articles and let the full betrayal sink in.

“God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States — a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject.”
So, God bless him for getting us into Iraq and costing us thousands on American lives and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives? God bless him for destroying parts of the constitution? God bless him for running up gas prices and making it hard to own a home? God bless him for all these things that are making our lives so much worse? O personally would have much preferred if the Bush presidency had been a great success and brought peace and prosperity to the country and made all of our lives better, but he chose not to. I believe the phrase she should have used was "God damn you ..." The only reason she says "God bless ..." is because it helps her and her party and their chances in the next election. That's pretty selfish in itself and says a lot about her lack of judgment, something we've seen a lot of lately.

She seems like a total phony to me. With that stupid smile all the time. Just get to the facts. Tell the truth. And put America above all else. How hard can it be to be serious from time to time. Take your job seriously. Everyone else does or has to from time to time.

nancy fiddled while Rome burned

And boosh was snickering to himself, holding the gas can and matches.

yeah, i called and left her a message today and told her to stop being a putz, she's making herself look the fool criticizing anyone since she's declared long ago and many times that "impeachment is off the table."

the democrats in congress can whine all they want about the low confidence the public has in congress as a whole, they can blame it on "obstructionism" by the republicans, but as far as i'm concerned it is the democrats who are obstructionist in their refusal to engage in investigating and punishing the criminals who currently occupy the white house and much of the federal government.

[spit that bad pelosi taste out of my mouth - blech]

Andy K Jong Il @ 75:

Karen @ 48:

Andy K Jong Il @ 10:

A few questions for everyone here:

Who is your Representative?

Did you vote for that Representative?

If you voted for your Representative, do you think that s/he is better than the average Representative now serving?

Who did your Representative, if a member of the Democratic caucus, support for the Speaker's chair when the Dems won the House back from the GOP in '06?

Who should your Representative supported for the Speaker's chair, and why should they have supported that candidate?

Actually, my rep is Pelosi.

The primaries here in SF were cringe-inducing (if noticeable). Naturally, nobody was going to wage a serious challenge to her, and the woman on the ballot running against her wasn't all that impressive.

Pelosi is on the right side. I wish I could have proudly cast a vote for her. She is progressive. But her non-strategy for dealing with the runaway executive is infuriating.

Karen, I agree with almost everything you just wrote, but that's the norm. Not to sound like a broken record, but where are the 67 votes to convict in the Senate? I've got my fair share of idealism, but it's tempered by realism. And the reality is that you could impeach, but never convict- and the outcome would be a pyrrhic victory.

But thanks for being yourself, and admitting that there are shades of gray to be seen. :D

I realize that the conviction will never happen. There are strategies for dealing with the runaway executive anyway, and she hasn't adopted any strategy at all. She's just waiting out her first two years until we win in November.

As for whether an acquittal would represent a pyrrhic victory, I might have agreed in the beginning of '06. (Actually, I'm on record here calling for a tempered, honest look at what really could be done, making the very argument you're making.) But what many of us also suspected became patently obvious -- nothing but nothing would make the sociopathic Bush Administration budge on any issue whatsoever. It came time to devise a strategy for dealing with the executive branch that included impeachment as an option. With the way things are now, we stand to win many more seats in the Senate. How many more might we win if Republican Senators were forced to campaign by defending their votes for acquittal? How about if we had first impeached Cheney, whom just about everyone hates, including many Republican Senators, and forced Republicans into a decision on his crimes?

But we didn't do that. We gave Bush almost everything he wanted anyway.

Frankly, I'm not all that surprised. But, with the way this administration has acted, and the way the opposition Congress has responded, it's time for some serious Constitutional revision.

Overhaul the electoral process. Without electoral reform, nothing changes.

Take away the veto power. Instead, after the electoral process is reformed, and the allocation of power changed, have all bills start in the House, and put a check power in the hands of the Senate.

Force the president to answer questions in front of the House every month to control the executive.

Clarify the division of war powers so that Congress has an explicit power to end a war.

Andy K Jong Il @ 88:

Idealistic, and there's nothing wrong with that, but the fact of the matter is that Americans send incumbents back to DC in droves.

Well that just reinforces my point that politicians should not be driven by fear of losing elections. For one thing, it's rare for an incumbent to lose. So you better have the least craven or corruptible rep you can get to begin with. And a bonus is one who doesn't elect craven leaders.

I'm glad you even read my questions, btw. I'm asking them for a reason: I want to see how many people still support their own selections while dismissing everyone else's choices. Pelosi, Emanuel, Ehlers...They must be doing right by someone with a vote, right?

I think I know what you are referring to: the polls which suggest most people are dissatisfied with Congress but are very happy with their own rep.

I in no way mean this as a defense of Bush: I think he's evil and hides it brilliantly with his moron act, but tell me how Nancy Pelosi has succeeded by ANY measure.

She has NO room to talk about anyone else losing credibility, or being a failure.

I'd put her on the stand and say WTF is going on with the Anthrax investigation? WTF is going on with the voting machines and the proprietary software they use. WTF is up with Bin Laden? WhereTF is he. WhoTF is looking for him? WTF are you all doing about it. Geez.

I liked they way Cynthia McKinney questioned Donald Rumsfelt. This is the style I'd go for...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU

Orangutan. @ 93:

She seems like a total phony to me. With that stupid smile all the time. Just get to the facts. Tell the truth. And put America above all else. How hard can it be to be serious from time to time. Take your job seriously. Everyone else does or has to from time to time.

I don't know about phony, but I do know she has fallen hook, line and sinker for this "bipartisan" can't-we-all-just-get-along meme that the beltway media has been trying (and succeeding) in getting the Dem pols to adopt (coincidentally, while not demanding the same of the Repubs). So the Dems have been giving in to the Repubs in the name of "bipartisanship".

alvo @ 92:

“God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States — a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject.”
So, God bless him for getting us into Iraq and costing us thousands on American lives and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives? God bless him for destroying parts of the constitution? God bless him for running up gas prices and making it hard to own a home? God bless him for all these things that are making our lives so much worse? O personally would have much preferred if the Bush presidency had been a great success and brought peace and prosperity to the country and made all of our lives better, but he chose not to. I believe the phrase she should have used was "God damn you ..." The only reason she says "God bless ..." is because it helps her and her party and their chances in the next election. That's pretty selfish in itself and says a lot about her lack of judgment, something we've seen a lot of lately.

Uhm...Adjust your sarcasm detector.

I wish PoP was here to correct me when I get this wrong, but there's this thing that's southern, but not necessarily limited to the south...When someone's an asshole, a lady doesn't say, "What an asshole," but rather, "Isn't that nice?" Or something along those lines.

alvo @ 92:

“God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States — a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject.”
So, God bless him for getting us into Iraq and costing us thousands on American lives and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives? God bless him for destroying parts of the constitution? God bless him for running up gas prices and making it hard to own a home? God bless him for all these things that are making our lives so much worse? O personally would have much preferred if the Bush presidency had been a great success and brought peace and prosperity to the country and made all of our lives better, but he chose not to. I believe the phrase she should have used was "God damn you ..." The only reason she says "God bless ..." is because it helps her and her party and their chances in the next election. That's pretty selfish in itself and says a lot about her lack of judgment, something we've seen a lot of lately.

Absolutely. She played the God card for middle America. She's a panderer on top of being a huge disappointment as speaker.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. The Democrats have yet to establish any kind of voice in Congress, while the Neo-cons continue to force policy on America that destroys personal liberty and erodes freedom.

Lame-Duck Speaker.

bryancri @ 72:

The leaders of the Do-Nothings and the Know-Nothings.

you think pelosi is as awful as bush? you have got to be kidding me.

Most often in abuse relationship the children will turn on the mother for the father behavior, because they have look up to the mother to save them from the father.

We look up to Nancy to protect us from our dictator, as she said she would do in cleaning out the swamp, then once Nov 2006 election was over, she let the swamp life continue.

So yeah! Nancy is doing worse in the rating than George. For keeping George just to make her look better. Some people don't want to be on the winning team, but be the best person on the losing team. She may be slightly better than George, but she is still on the losing team.

I wouldn't bless George Bush in any circumstance. The trouble with these "Democratic leaders" is they think we are dealing with real Americans in the Bush administration. It hasn't yet dawned that Bushco are a bunch of crooks, war criminals, and traitors. Why are the polls so much against both Bush/Cheney and congress? Has any polling organization ever asked just why people hate congress so much? It's because they won't stand up to these thugs and uphold the constitution.

Andy K Jong Il @ 101:

alvo @ 92:

“God bless him, bless his heart, president of the United States — a total failure, losing all credibility with the American people on the economy, on the war, on energy, you name the subject.”
So, God bless him for getting us into Iraq and costing us thousands on American lives and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives? God bless him for destroying parts of the constitution? God bless him for running up gas prices and making it hard to own a home? God bless him for all these things that are making our lives so much worse? O personally would have much preferred if the Bush presidency had been a great success and brought peace and prosperity to the country and made all of our lives better, but he chose not to. I believe the phrase she should have used was "God damn you ..." The only reason she says "God bless ..." is because it helps her and her party and their chances in the next election. That's pretty selfish in itself and says a lot about her lack of judgment, something we've seen a lot of lately.

Uhm...Adjust your sarcasm detector.

I wish PoP was here to correct me when I get this wrong, but there's this thing that's southern, but not necessarily limited to the south...When someone's an asshole, a lady doesn't say, "What an asshole," but rather, "Isn't that nice?" Or something along those lines.

Pelosi wouldn't know southern if she were hit upside the head with a fried chicken. She was pandering to the God-zillas with that comment pure and simple. Being a lady, southern or otherwise, had nothing to do with it.

Karen @ 96:

Andy K Jong Il @ 75:

Karen @ 48:

Andy K Jong Il @ 10:

Sounds like a Parliament, with the ministers appointed by the elected exec. Is that about right?

Not one of them was elected to roll over to a different party with an extremely different agenda, yet the majority are betraying us exactly in that fashion.

clearly, you're talking about the conservative and moderate wing of the democratic party, with whom pelosi has very little in common, other than the fact that they share the 'democratic party' label.

can you imagine a san franciscan, who personally believes in progressive values, in washington, where there are hundreds of representatives who share totally different values from hers? can you imagine trying to persuade your radically different
colleagues to support progressive policies? it cannot be an easy task.

having said that, if you really want pelosi out of office, then vote for cindy sheehan.

and all i gotta say is: if you think pelosi is a failure, can you imagine how much cindy sheehan would f*ck things up?

yes, I realize an actual impeachment may never have happened, BUT....there SHOULD be an historial record that it was brought forth.

Whoo! Screwed up that edit!

enough @ 105:

I wouldn't bless George Bush in any circumstance. The trouble with these "Democratic leaders" is they think we are dealing with real Americans in the Bush administration. It hasn't yet dawned that Bushco are a bunch of crooks, war criminals, and traitors. Why are the polls so much against both Bush/Cheney and congress? Has any polling organization ever asked just why people hate congress so much? It's because they won't stand up to these thugs and uphold the constitution.

Testify! Amen. Every word the truth.

to those critics of pelosi who feel she has accomplished "nothing," i would advise you to look at her website to see what she has accomplished. look at her voting record.

even a cursory glance at her record demonstrates that she is a true liberal the vast majority of the time.

however, she has committed a few disastrous errors.

but by and large, she's done a lot.

bryancri @ 72:

The leaders of the Do-Nothings and the Know-Nothings.

you think pelosi is as awful as bush? you have got to be kidding me.

Heh, I was making a less-than-spectacular pun. The historical Know-Nothing movement was a genuine one, very similar to the Republican Party of today. I liked the juxtaposition of the wording against Pelosi's inaction vis-a-vis the president.

Why am I explaining this? How could you possibly infer that I think Pelosi is "as awful as" Bush. You have to be kidding me.

Speaker Kucinich would have set up that impeachment table long ago. Can we impeach Pelosi and make a change?

Andy K Jong Il @ 107:

Karen @ 96:

Andy K Jong Il @ 75:

Karen @ 48:

Sounds like a Parliament, with the ministers appointed by the elected exec. Is that about right?

With the very important exception that the separation of powers would still be maintained, and legislation would remain bottom-up instead of top-down.

Moreover, with electoral reform, we can make the House genuinely Democratic, and have the Senate genuinely represent the populations of states as a whole.

Thanks to your taking impeachment off the table, the greatest betrayal of America since Bush stole the 2000 election. Takes two to tango.

Bipartisan means, 2 faces, 1 unjust war.

bryancri @ 112:

to those critics of pelosi who feel she has accomplished "nothing," i would advise you to look at her website to see what she has accomplished. look at her voting record.

even a cursory glance at her record demonstrates that she is a true liberal the vast majority of the time.

however, she has committed a few disastrous errors.

but by and large, she's done a lot.

A Speaker Kucinich (and a number of others) would have done everything she did AND put impeachment on the table. Why settle for less? Impeachment is arguably the most important thing she could have done yet she took a pass and we as a nation have suffered for it.

The Republicans had the guts to go after Clinton because of a BJ, but these spineless democrats don't have the guts to go after the current administration on all it's human rights and constitutional abuses committed during the last 8 years?????

Give us a break Pelosi.

Ruthless People @ 114:

Speaker Kucinich would have set up that impeachment table long ago. Can we impeach Pelosi and make a change?

The basic thinking would be no. We don't "impeach" members of Congress, though they are arguably "officers" eligible for impeachment.

It's only ever been tried once, if I'm remembering correctly. The House tried to impeach a Senator, but the Senate would not hold a trial. Instead, the Senate just exercised its removal power, and kicked the guy out on its own terms.

In any case, the political pull of someone like Kucinich to stage an internal revolt against Pelosi is roughly akin to the gravitational pull of the moon on the average mosquito.

Karen @ 113:

bryancri @ 72:

The leaders of the Do-Nothings and the Know-Nothings.

you think pelosi is as awful as bush? you have got to be kidding me.

Why am I explaining this? How could you possibly infer that I think Pelosi is "as awful as" Bush. You have to be kidding me.

She was as awful as BUSH when it came to FISA wasn't she?

"He's also said Pelosi is leading the moderate faction of her party "off a cliff" by refusing to allow a vote in the House on offshore drilling.

"Just because John Boehner, who is my friend, has my respect, says it doesn't make it so," she responded, reiterating that she will block any vote to allow lifting the ban"

If she can block any vote lifting the ban, then why didn't she block such as the FISA bill and Telecom immunity??

PLEASE PLEASE VOTE HER OUT OF OFFICE. She does not deserve re-election

She might as well be looking in a mirror when she says those words because as far as I'm concerned she's more miserable a failure than he is.

"Nancy Pelosi, in response to a quote from Bush about the Democratic Congress’ failures, doesn’t hold back her true feelings for the lame duck President."

So she thinks merely verbally attacking Bush is going to win her popularity points? We're not neo-conservative wannabes on the left, we have a few more braincells to realize that words and actions are not one and the same.

She doesn't hold back her true feelings, but she certainly holds back on any sort of enforcement of her duties as a supporter and defender of the Constitution.

I certainly hope the people of SF run a REAL American against her in 2010. I won't hold my breath since I know that this isn't the way politics works... It is he (or she) who can raise the most money that wins, and that requires suckling at the teat of the power brokers, not pandering to "We the People".

abarts @ 109:

yes, I realize an actual impeachment may never have happened, BUT....there SHOULD be an historial record that it was brought forth.

Why, exactly? There have been two Presidents impeached in the history of the nation, and both times the members of the House were petty in bringing the charges.

Posterity will look back on the last eight years, and the history will show that Bush and friends in the administration and the Supreme Court marched in lock-step and never sold each other out, never gave a straight answer. They covered their asses very well. They knew how to hide evidence. They gamed the system and got away with it.

The Congress led by Pelosi has an approval rating that makes Bush seem popular.

The only way to stop Bush from pardoning Cheney and Mukasey and anybody else still looking at criminal trial is to impeach them and Bush himself. Obama will kick this can down the street until 2012. McSame will pardon them all. Thanks, Nancy and Steny, for totally screwing up this country. You are not excused.

Ruthless People @ 117:

bryancri @ 112:

to those critics of pelosi who feel she has accomplished "nothing," i would advise you to look at her website to see what she has accomplished. look at her voting record.

even a cursory glance at her record demonstrates that she is a true liberal the vast majority of the time.

however, she has committed a few disastrous errors.

but by and large, she's done a lot.

I concur! Arguable, her only REAL job as a Legislator is to uphold her oath. She could pass this resolution or that bill till she's blue in the face. 10,000 goods does not overrule one very fundamental wrong. Again, her ONLY job is to support and defend the Constitution. Nothing more, nothing less.
A Speaker Kucinich (and a number of others) would have done everything she did AND put impeachment on the table. Why settle for less? Impeachment is arguably the most important thing she could have done yet she took a pass and we as a nation have suffered for it.

And the total failure will never be impeached, may never answer for his crimes and the crimes of his administration, Scooter will be pardoned by Jan 19, 2009 and because Nancy and all have NOT done their job, have not held him to account, have not slammed the book down on him and hard - we are now set up for another president in our future to do the same.

Thanks Nancy, and Harry, I think you both are FAILURES too and I think history will not judge you kindly.

i'm voting the incumbents out in all situatuations I have available unless there is a really compelling reason, flush them all down the drain and start over.

fry @ 126:

The Congress led by Pelosi has an approval rating that makes Bush seem popular.

Congressional approval ratings nearly always lag bewhind those of the POTUS. But people continue to send incumbents back to office. Most people evaluate their own Reps and Senators highly- moreso if those polled voted for those Reps and Senators- but rate lowly the bodies in which they serve.

Andy K Jong Il @ 131:

fry @ 126:

The Congress led by Pelosi has an approval rating that makes Bush seem popular.

Congressional approval ratings nearly always lag bewhind those of the POTUS. But people continue to send incumbents back to office. Most people evaluate their own Reps and Senators highly- moreso if those polled voted for those Reps and Senators- but rate lowly the bodies in which they serve.

Maybe this is a good argument for Proportional Representation?

Come on...approve it or disapprove it...don't leave me hangin'

[Disapproved it. You couldn't possibly be more misogynistic. Disapproval of Pelosi is one thing...But that comment was in a whole other realm. Site Monitor]

Karen @ 119:

Ruthless People @ 114:

Speaker Kucinich would have set up that impeachment table long ago. Can we impeach Pelosi and make a change?

The basic thinking would be no. We don't "impeach" members of Congress, though they are arguably "officers" eligible for impeachment.

It's only ever been tried once, if I'm remembering correctly. The House tried to impeach a Senator, but the Senate would not hold a trial. Instead, the Senate just exercised its removal power, and kicked the guy out on its own terms.

In any case, the political pull of someone like Kucinich to stage an internal revolt against Pelosi is roughly akin to the gravitational pull of the moon on the average mosquito.

Can a vote, or a non-vote in Congress even be considered a high crime or misdemeanor? Should it? And if that might be the case, what would that do to deter elected officials from voting their conscience?

Isn't the reasoning behind the six-year Senatorial term that Senators should be able to vote their conscience without fear of having to answer the voters in less than two years?

The Dems of 110th Congress are a total failure. FISA was the last straw, I'm voting against every incumbent and I'm voting for Ralph Nader.

James @ 132:

Andy K Jong Il @ 131:

fry @ 126:

The Congress led by Pelosi has an approval rating that makes Bush seem popular.

Congressional approval ratings nearly always lag bewhind those of the POTUS. But people continue to send incumbents back to office. Most people evaluate their own Reps and Senators highly- moreso if those polled voted for those Reps and Senators- but rate lowly the bodies in which they serve.

Maybe this is a good argument for Proportional Representation?

Good point.

I'm sick of the South, the West and my next door neighbors controlling my government.

Irony intended.

Pot, meeting frickin' kettle.

Next Speaker, please.

bryancri @ 112:

to those critics of pelosi who feel she has accomplished "nothing," i would advise you to look at her website to see what she has accomplished. look at her voting record.

even a cursory glance at her record demonstrates that she is a true liberal the vast majority of the time.

however, she has committed a few disastrous errors.

but by and large, she's done a lot.

Some perspective:

Bill Clinton
popular president twice elected by the American people
presided over record prosperity and peace
approval rating around the 60's when impeached
Impeached by Republicans over something that had absolutely nothing to do with the business of this nation in a shallow attempt to overthrow a twice Democratically elected sucessful president.

George Bush
Lost one, possibly both elections. Selected president by 5 Republican activist justices
Turned his predessors legacy of recored prosperity and peace into record deficits and endless expensive wars
approval rating at 25%
worst, most unpopular and lawless president in US history
depleted our military, busted our budget, trampled our constitution, alienated our allies
traitorous outing of a CIA agent, politicized most every govt organization
Katrina failures, lied the nation into war
Steered no bid govt contracts to VP's former company (war profiteering)
Has committed more high crimes and misdemeanors that relate directly to the affairs of this nation than we may ever know
Pelosi refuses to put impeachment on the table

Nothing else Pelosi does or had done really matters. She has shirked her #1 constitutional responsibility.

If the Dems want a resounding victory in the coming elections, they should spell out the multitude of failures the administration has been involved with in the last 7 years. Then tie McCain to them by association. Then repeat this over & over until the general public gets the idea. Don't let the American people accept the premise that the GOP is sure to present that it is the Dems fault since they have had control of Congress for the last year.

Uh, Nancy is a good one to talk about "failure".

IF he's such a fucking failure then why can't this worthless whore see it clear to IMPEACH his ass?

Is it because she likes smelling his ass so much that she can't stop kissing it?

She is a twit at best and a traitor at worst...

Freaking worthless twit... Yeah, after she ok's Bush's ILLEGAL wiretap scheme, then she gets balls?

FUCK YOU NANCY and I will pass on you, you traitor bitch... I have standards and it's obvious that you don't...

Pinky Left Brain @ 141:

IF he's such a fucking failure then why can't this worthless whore see it clear to IMPEACH his ass?

Is it because she likes smelling his ass so much that she can't stop kissing it?

She is a twit at best and a traitor at worst...

Freaking worthless twit... Yeah, after she ok's Bush's ILLEGAL wiretap scheme, then she gets balls?

FUCK YOU NANCY and I will pass on you, you traitor bitch... I have standards and it's obvious that you don't...

...oh, I forgot the illegal wiretaps, add that to my post @ 138 (so much to keep track of with this criminal regime you can't remember all the illegal activity)

Beagle @ 139:

If the Dems want a resounding victory in the coming elections, they should spell out the multitude of failures the administration has been involved with in the last 7 years. Then tie McCain to them by association. Then repeat this over & over until the general public gets the idea. Don't let the American people accept the premise that the GOP is sure to present that it is the Dems fault since they have had control of Congress for the last year.

Ah, but that IS the irony. That the Dems now have no standing to say McCain=Bush, since they have now enabled nearly every single Bush desire into law.

Nancy, you're as much a quisling as any republican in this age of bait and switch politics.

She's just feeling pissy because dubya tried to blame the economic and gas crisis on the dems this week.

I can't believe she's showing her face.

Nada @ 145:

She's just feeling pissy because dubya tried to blame the economic and gas crisis on the dems this week.

That's it. BushCo pissed on her glass slippers so she's a little testy. Soon the fuss will be over, bygones will be bygones, and Pelosi will be back to cupping Bush and Cheney's balls again.

Ruthless People @ 138:

bryancri @ 112:

to those critics of pelosi who feel she has accomplished "nothing," i would advise you to look at her website to see what she has accomplished. look at her voting record.

even a cursory glance at her record demonstrates that she is a true liberal the vast majority of the time.

however, she has committed a few disastrous errors.

but by and large, she's done a lot.

Some perspective:

Bill Clinton
popular president twice elected by the American people
presided over record prosperity and peace
approval rating around the 60's when impeached
Impeached by Republicans over something that had absolutely nothing to do with the business of this nation in a shallow attempt to overthrow a twice Democratically elected sucessful president.

George Bush
Lost one, possibly both elections. Selected president by 5 Republican activist justices
Turned his predessors legacy of recored prosperity and peace into record deficits and endless expensive wars
approval rating at 25%
worst, most unpopular and lawless president in US history
depleted our military, busted our budget, trampled our constitution, alienated our allies
traitorous outing of a CIA agent, politicized most every govt organization
Katrina failures, lied the nation into war
Steered no bid govt contracts to VP's former company (war profiteering)
Has committed more high crimes and misdemeanors that relate directly to the affairs of this nation than we may ever know
Pelosi refuses to put impeachment on the table

Nothing else Pelosi does or had done really matters. She has shirked her #1 constitutional responsibility.

Yes. She is complicit in treasonous actions by the criminal GWB administration. Nothing else matters after saying that.

NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 148:

Ruthless People @ 138:

bryancri @ 112:

to those critics of pelosi who feel she has accomplished "nothing," i would advise you to look at her website to see what she has accomplished. look at her voting record.

even a cursory glance at her record demonstrates that she is a true liberal the vast majority of the time.

however, she has committed a few disastrous errors.

but by and large, she's done a lot.

Some perspective:

Bill Clinton
popular president twice elected by the American people
presided over record prosperity and peace
approval rating around the 60's when impeached
Impeached by Republicans over something that had absolutely nothing to do with the business of this nation in a shallow attempt to overthrow a twice Democratically elected sucessful president.

George Bush
Lost one, possibly both elections. Selected president by 5 Republican activist justices
Turned his predessors legacy of recored prosperity and peace into record deficits and endless expensive wars
approval rating at 25%
worst, most unpopular and lawless president in US history
depleted our military, busted our budget, trampled our constitution, alienated our allies
traitorous outing of a CIA agent, politicized most every govt organization
Katrina failures, lied the nation into war
Steered no bid govt contracts to VP's former company (war profiteering)
Has committed more high crimes and misdemeanors that relate directly to the affairs of this nation than we may ever know
Pelosi refuses to put impeachment on the table

Nothing else Pelosi does or had done really matters. She has shirked her #1 constitutional responsibility.

Yes. She is complicit in treasonous actions by the criminal GWB administration. Nothing else matters after saying that.

Ditto
and again

Spkr. Pelosi still thinks Bush is incompetent, a bumbler who gets everything wrong. In fact, he is extremely good at giving that impression as he uses his power to acquire more power, power to break the laws of America for his own benefit which he has done time and time again. He needs to be impeached -- at once -- along with VP Cheney. Alas, it isn't going to happen, and we can only hope he doesn't break the law too many more times before Inauguratioin Day.

Dave

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