Nancy Pelosi: "Two oil men in the White House" are responsible for high oil prices
By SilentPatriot Friday Jul 18, 2008 5:00pm
Who knew Nancy Pelosi was such a straight-shooter? When Wolf Blitzer tries to pin part of the blame for the current energy crisis on the Democratic Congress, Pelosi shoots back by saying her House did everything it could to institute a sensible energy policy, only to have "run into a brick wall" in the form of Senate Republicans -- you know, the ones who broke the filibuster record for a full term last year.
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"The price of oil is... is attributed to two oil men in the White House and their protectors in the United States Senate."
While it might be easy (and typically accurate) to blame everything on President Bush and Vice President Cheney, I don't think it's unreasonable to lay the current crisis at the White House's doorstep. Sure, there are some uncontrollable market forces at work, but both Cheney and Bush are oil patch guys; it would be the height of naivete to assume that they would have an energy policy that didn't benefit Big Oil.
From Day One, Dick Cheney was plotting how to take over Iraq oil fields. Before the war, it was obvious to everyone that the invasion or Iraq, and the instability it would caused in the region, would only drive prices up further. For all the lip service President Bush pays to his commitment to renewable energy, the fact is spending has been on the stagnant since the mid-1990's.
What we really need is a leader with the wisdom to acknowledge the magnitude of the problem and the courage to tackle it head on. "Green Screen" John McCain is clearly not that leader.
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No.
Nancy is wrong.
She is responsible for shrub's crimes. Because she has let them slide.
Fuck you, Nancy.
Fuck you.
The widespread and complete ignorance of economics in this country is staggering. Oil is a global market, and it's priced in dollars. The Fed has purposely devalued our currency to save already-insolvent banks. Oil guys don't feel like taking the same number of dollars that are now worth much less, so they charge more, evening it out. Oh and the Fed has injected $250B into the markets in excess liquidity, all of which has been invested in oil and other commodities in an attempt to 'earn' their way out of insolvency.
these "crimes" were mostly established congress 106
bush and cheney were totally ready for the new congress
like scott mcClellen said they were in a perpetual
politicization mode.....bush uses signing statements
veto and executive privilege to battle the paper thin
majority.....they just want him out of office.
they used 9-11 to get what they wanted....all that patriotic propaganda was used against us.
i am probably wrong i believe the congress is getting more heat than they deserve........i didn't say no heat
i'm saying too much....most of the damage was done
2000-2006
It's shame Nancy has to be attacked by BushCo before she grows a pair.
As far as Wolf is concerned, are those Exxon/Mobile's puppeteer strings I see moving his lips?
Huh? This problem (oil) and many others, are due to Congress, other than rare exceptional members,
(Pelosi is not one) kissing Bush's ass, repeatedly, over and over and over.
Plus, some all this current nonsense (deregulation) began during Clinton's term.
VietVet8666 @ 1:
My immediate visceral response was "Shut up, b***h."
MUCH too little, WAY too late. Dump ALL the DLC and Blue Dogs this November folks if you want the Democratic Party to actually be populated by Democrats - otherwise, you have a bunch of Republican sheep in Dem clothing.
Pelosi should have started pushing for impeachment in Nov of '06. There are a LOT of things she should have done since then that she hasn't done. She needs to GO. Blue Dogs need to GO. The DLC needs to be disbanded and the DCCC needs to be taken over by non-Right Wing ideologues.
Otherwise, there are going to be a helluva lot of disappointed, disillusioned people come this time next year...and for the next few voting cycles.
She's been shoveling cash into the Bush/Cheney US-Empire in Iraq for awhile now. She's just as treasonous as the rest of them. It's like watching Jerry Springer where 2 parties accuse each other for doing the same thing.
Cheney wanted oil at these prices. His calculation is, one barrel of oil does the work of twelve men for one year (same energy output). That's perhaps accurate. So he's long held, oil has been at insanely-cheap, bargain-basement prices, for far too long. So, why shouldn't wealthy speculators make a profit on this most-valued resource. He figures we're getting a deal, even still, at these prices. (Of course, the government gases up his motorcade, and he's a millionaire, or maybe billionaire now.)
Let's see 12 men X $30,000 a year = real price, a barrel of oil should be.
Let's reframe, Nancy. The reason those two oilmen ARE in the WhiteHouse is because spineless corrupt Dems like you don't REMOVE/IMPEACH them.
Medford Tim @ 7:
maybe your right..... get rid of bush and put the real president in office...... dick cheney
Your government is stuck in some kind of statistics maze. They don't see human faces, just the bottom line: you are numerical values. Their cronies are raking it in, so everything is good.
This is like shooting fish in a barrel, except we've got two barrels full of fish and a machine gun. Nancy - your right about Bush, but shut the fuck up anyway. You have zero credibility on anything, so your criticism of Bush just does not mean a thing.
Radhika @ 10:
Hear hear!!
constituent @ 11:
His impeachment can run alongside Bush's. Then, Cheny can resign ala Spiro Agnew and Bush can appoint the placeholder-in-chief to be. Keep the bastards occupied with legal difficulties so they can't do any MORE damage!
Sorry, but democrats and republicans since Jimmy Carter are to blame. Bush is just another in a long line of people who have their fingers in their ears and don't care about the future.
That, and the fact the earth doesn't have more oil. We've already taken half of it from the ground.
Oil is a one time deal, people.
It'll be millions of years before your remains becomes the oil of the future.
And we're wasting it.
My presciption
Boycott everything.
Boycott elections.
And if everyone would agree, paying bills.
Bring this fucker to a halt.
Mitesh Damania @ 8:
Washington is like the Jerry Springer show. A bunch of losers accusing the other side of being worse.
The, "thank god I only fucked my cousin, and not my sister," like that loser over there-- kinda logic.
Edwin Hussein the whiner @ 14:
Absolutely. It's like the alcoholic blaming the bottle for the problem.
“The price of oil is… is attributed to two oil men in the White House and their protectors in the United States Senate"
Why did she forget to mention the protectors in the US HoR? Namely, people like HER, who refuse to do anything about the problem.
Elect Dave from Wendy's and a Hamburger would be 25 bucks. Cheney in particular holds the blame. The shrub didn't understand the oil biz at all Pissed away a fortune drilling dry holes
Nice job of repeating those right wing talking points (lies) there Wolfie!
IS Wolf Blitzer stupid or what?
He asked the same question 3 times.
None of them mentioned the 9 TRILLIONS dollar deficit we have now NOR THE WAR IN IRAQ AND THE US-ISRAEL Threat of bombing IRAN . They are the MAIN reason for the HIGH PRICES.
RELEASING 10% of the US reserve WOULD BE A wonderful solution RIGHT NOW but Bush and cronies wants to blame SOMEONE for their CRISIS.
The picture of Nancy Pelosi on this comment is an insult
to every reader here.
She is a piece of shit. Period.
The almighty dollar is mighty no more. It has been declining steadily for six years against other major currencies, undercutting its role as the leading international banking currency. The long slide is fanning inflation at home and playing a major role in the run-up of oil and gasoline prices everywhere.
If you don't believe how bad Cheney has screwed up read how they've managed to let Russia take over the majority of oil production:
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/JG19Ag01.html
...and who is responsible for them STILL being in the White House?
Is Nancy Pee up for re-election in Nov.? I don't think so, but regardless, you are wasting your breath and our time with your attempts to point the finger and blame others when it is YOU who is equally guilty. Go home and count your stock holdings
w/your husband.
constituent @ 11:
Poster must be watching tooo much of Fox Knews--why impeach both of the suckers?
By the way,does it matter that America need a leader,most of the time the playing golf and quil hunting.They rarely are in Congress or senate.
re-electing Nancy is off the table.
Ruthless People @ 4:
You are so right about Wolfie! He is dumping the blame on the Dems, when the Repugs cut them off at the knees when voting for anything.
Why is it that many people just don't understand that the Dems do not control the Senate. They have a slim majority, but not the actual numbers to make a difference.They need 60 votes to pass anything worth while to over ride the policies of this jackass president and his chief criminal cohort, Cheney! Wake up !!!
She tries to make people think if she had a larger majority in congress and a filibuster proof senate she still wouldn't be rolling over for the most unpopular, corrupt and disasterous administration in US history? And impeachment wouldn't still be off the table? Puh-lease! I'm really starting to tire of this woman, she's become a useless bore.
1Watt @ 26:
that's a good read alittle more interesting than putting
a beat down on pelosi........this is much bigger than
people understand
ron Ft Lauderdale @ 30:
your argument falls on deaf ears when I think of those democratic senators taking payola from telecoms.
ron Ft Lauderdale @ 30:
You nailed it and are "right on"; however, majority of citizens(even those registered to
vote) are, unfortunately, ignorant or misinformed or too lazy to comprehend what the
actual circumstances are in "our" Congress. Wake up America.
doggiebobo @ 28:
Yes, all Representatives come up for election every two years. In the Senate, the term is six years.
Been that way since the 1700's...
doggiebobo @ 34:
step away from the kool-aid.
ron Ft Lauderdale @ 30:
good points
Medford Tim @ 35:
Not challenging you, but are you telling me that in Nov. 08, ALL 435 members of
Congress are coming up for re-election? I don't think so..
Nada @ 6:
No, Bush/Cheney, their cronies, and their Repug base are responsible for what is happening now. The Dems in the Senate can do vey little, if the Repug Senators don't join in to get the 60 vote mark needed to over-ride Bush. Note that they sometimes get close to 60, but not actually there! Planned I am sure!!
You are playing into Bush/Cheney's plans by attacking others for their criminal acts. Go after Bush/Cheney and those Americans who put them back in office in 04 for Christ's sake!!
Get rid of some of these F'n Repug Senators in November and give the Dems the majority they need. Then, if the Dems don't do the job, attack!!!!!
alzuben @ 36:
Are you of the opinion that most American voters are aware of how the U.S. House
and U.S. Senate are comprised and what it takes for a piece of legislation to be
enacted and become law???? Get serious.
ron Ft Lauderdale @ 30:
We ARE awake, which is why we can't believe Harry Reid is acting as he is. By not forcing the Republicans to do REAL filibusters, he has CREATED this insane 60 vote threshold. 51 is SUPPOSED to be the magic number, but as long as Reid only pulls out the "full filibuster" card when DEMOCRATS threaten to do it, the Republicans DO remain in charge.
Reid will be a guest on Meet The Bloggers this coming Friday, maybe a cascade of emails to the show with the question, "WHY, Harry?" would make a point?
alzuben @ 33:
Yes, you are right to a degree. BUT, it is Bush/Cheney who have done so much harm to America the last 7 and a half years. Focus on them!! Make them pay, even after they leave office!! Hunt them, down like the dirty dogs they are.
Medford Tim @ 41:
I agree, but was it actually Harry Reid who initiated, pushed and endorsed the 60
vote threshold or did somehow(unbeknowst to me), the Repugs force or otherwise
insist upon that procedure. I really don't know, so please educate me. Thanks.
doggiebobo @ 40:
Not for a moment! But those who aware of what is happening, have to keep "beating the drums" to bring about the change that is needed.
I am serious. I want change and I think this kind of discussion is not only good, but it is essential. America is in big trouble. I think Bush/Cheney are responsible and shoud be held accountable for the rest of their miserable lives. Maybe I am naive, but that is how I feel.
doggiebobo @ 43:
Yes, educate me too! So, Harry Reed has created this 60 threshhold??
doggiebobo @ 38:
That's okay! Challenging things is the only way to learn. Don't ever hesitate to do so.
However, in this case, I am right.
"The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature." - U.S.Constitution
Yes, every two years, ALL members of the House go through an election. That's why they are in perpetual re-election mode. Which takes a lot of money. Which is why lobbyists are so powerful. Which is why the citizens end up holding the brown end of the stick a lot.
ron Ft Lauderdale @ 44:
We are in total and complete agreement.
VietVet8666 @ 24:
Speak for your self dickhead. You're the the piece of shit.
Nancy killed Wolf with the truth but the so called Democrats
are vilifying her. Typical. This is why we have W as a two term
president & people in C&L leading the parade when McCain wins.
doggiebobo @ 40:
lol, I'm the one who needs to get serious?
am I the one who said impeachment is off the table?
I'm not going to speak to what the American voter knows or does not know...after all, 59 million voted to re-elect Bush.
excuse me, at the moment, I'm having an outpouring of sympathy for all those poor democrats whose hands are tied behind their backs....those same hands holding the $8k checks from telecoms.
tell me again how impotent they are.
How come Wolfie never pushes back like that with republicans? Guess Faux Snoose isn't the only "fair and balanced" "news" organization.
"What we really need is a leader with the wisdom to acknowledge the magnitude of the problem and the courage to tackle it head on. “Green Screen” John McCain is clearly not that leader".
Unfortunately, neither is Barack.
doggiebobo @ 43:
Harry decided that filibusters would be "paper only" instead of the full process as depicted in "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington." HE makes the rules. HE decides whether to bring things to the floor or not. The Republicans are free to filibuster, requiring the 60 vote threshold, but Harry DOESN'T have to accommodate them and make it easy to do so. I.e.; He DIDN'T HAVE TO ALLOW THE FISA BILL to come to a vote. He could have let it die in committee the same way Pelosi is letting Kucinich's impeachment die in committee. There are so many things he has done in favor of the Republicans for political "safety" sake rather than for the good of the country that you HAVE to question his motives.
Well, Nancy, maybe you and the rest of the spineless Democrats should have been pushing for the agenda discussed and the players present at Cheney's energy meeting when this criminal bunch took over our government. I agree, WAY too little and WAY too late!
alzuben @ 50:
I expected about as much...failing to speak to the question, but instead going off on
a tangential subject. We agree, Congress(both Houses are impotent(and incompetent)
but that has not been an issue, at least in my mind, since Nov. 06(and prior)...
Ruthless People @ 19:
Somebody in the USA voted for W. Impeach is pure bullshit
all you ass-hats know it, or should. Nancy is fine. It's the body
of humanity that is the American voter that is at fault. She is
a good Speaker of the House & a decent human-being. That's more
than anyone can say for the boneheads posting in C&L.
Medford Tim @ 53:
Appreciate your reply. Does the Senate Leader(Ried) actually "makes the rules"?
I would have thought/hoped that rules are not dictatorial, but are adopted under
some kind of procedural system where members are involved.
Ratface @ 56:
Wow, I did not know Pelosi's office interns worked on weekends, poor bastards... At least I hope you can charge overtime.
Pelosi is complicit in far more of this than most will(unfortunately) ever know.
VietVet8666 @ 1:
No.
Nancy is wrong.
She is responsible for shrub’s crimes. Because she has let them slide.
Fuck you, Nancy.
Fuck you.
My immediate visceral response was “Shut up, b***h.”
I bet you say the same filthy crap you write
about Nancy to your mother, wife or kids. You
are some asshole.:-(
Ratface @ 56:
Nancy, is that you?
The Dude @ 58:
So acording to you Nancy is responsible for W Bush. Simpleton.
boy, nancy's looking kinda rough... bad photo maybe...
or, the weight and struggle of managing and enabling the bushco blackmail and bribery and extortion is catching up...
And thank you Nancy for letting them stay there.
Nancy and harry must go!
The Dude @ 58:
What a hoot. LOL..
Edwin Hussein the whiner @ 14:
If you phoney Democrats didn't vote for W he wouldn't
be an issue.
ron Ft Lauderdale @ 43:
Somebody has the courage to do just that http://youtube.com/watch?v=3xP79ReW8bk I don't know how successful he'll be but at least he has the balls to try, which is more than can be said for the majority of Democrats in congress who refuse to push for impeachment.
doggiebobo @ 57:
Reid is on the Rules Committee, but it is a joint Republican and Democratic group... Feinstein is the Chair:
http://rules.senate.gov/members/
Somebody in the USA voted for W. Impeach is pure bullshit
all you ass-hats know it, or should. Nancy is fine. It's the body
of humanity that is the American voter that is at fault. She is
a good Speaker of the House & a decent human-being. That's more
than anyone can say for the boneheads posting in C&L.
Nancy, is that you?
Yes it is & I a million times more intelligent than you or
your hillbilly family. Not that it's a difficult accomplishment.
Yes it is & I'm a million times more intelligent than you or
your hillbilly family. Not that it's a difficult accomplishment.
Notice I can't put a sentence together & you are still a dumb-ass. :-)
Rasputin @ 68:
Thanks again. I noted that the Rules Committee is comprised of 10 Dems and 9 Repugs,
and I'm not certain as to what number(majority or 2/3rds) is required for adoption of
a rule, but w/Dem's controlling, seems that they are in fact the Party who "rolled over".
Ratface @ 62:
... so the answer is "no overtime" I certainly hop you do get paid by the strawman. Or are adhominen the ones you get the big bucks for?
Ratface @ 70:
Notice I can't put a sentence together & you are still a dumb-ass. :-)
You obviously don't seem to understand how the quoting feature works.
Before calling names and boast about your mental capacity (or lack thereof in this case), since you live in a glass house.. remember about the danger stones present when you throw them around.
Hey, Speaker Pelosi, we all KNEW that W and Cheney are wholly-owned subsidiaries of the oil industry when the Supreme Court appointed them Vice-President and President.
This is all stuff that you, and the rest of the Democratic misleadership, should have been screaming well over a year ago. As Neocon Terminator (post #23) pointed out, Speaker Pelosi did not bother to mention the two main reasons for the rapid run-up in the price of oil -- the devaluation of the dollar as a result of borrowing from the Communist Chinese and our good friends and allies the Saudis to pay for the war and for the tax breaks for the only Americans W and Cheney --really-- care about, plus "risk premium," or the added costs traders build in to account for the possibility that something bad will happen. Surely, I'm not the -only- person to notice that every time W or Cheney dare the Iranians to cut back the world supply of oil, the price goes up a few dollars a barrel.
doggiebobo @ 57:
You can read up on the duties, responsibilities, and perqs of the Majority Leader position here.
Nancy Pelosi a straightshooter?
You're kidding right?
It's one thing to acknowledge the worst president ever, but Pelosi, Reid, and (most of) the rest of the Democrats in the House and Senate have been a disaster for this country.
katy @ 63:
All the facelifts are taking its tall. If you notice they have stretched her skin so much that her whole head is firmly planted up her ass. If you notice that is the reason why she wears anal beads for necklace.
doggiebobo @ 55:
...and well you should have when you present an argument that can't stand on it's own 2 legs.
I believe I already spoke to the question. You can pretend that I have disseminated all you want...but the reality was you only wanted me to continuously repeat myself. You never brought reasonable refutation to my op. So you got doubly slammed for trying to be an apologist, suck it up.
we don't agree...and essentially the reasons why we don't agree was exemplified in that second slam you called 'tangental'.
way to prove your ulterior motives trump integrity!
that's right, I said it...and it's more than appropriate.
The Dude @ 72:
So according to you nobody voted for W. Typical Republican
troll, bullshit. C&L is loaded with you guys. Did they toss your
dumb ass out of Newsmax?
shit, not enough coffee yet. Replace "tall" for "toll"
The Dude @ 73:
You obviously don't seem to understand how the quoting feature works.
Before calling names and boast about your mental capacity (or lack thereof in this case), since you live in a glass house.. remember about the danger stones present when you throw them around.
Okay. Nobody in America voted for W Bush. You win. :-(
Ratface @ 78:
So they do pay you per strawman and personal attack!
Let me see, that response contained 1 strawman, and over 2 and a half ad hominem attacks.
Any other logical fallacies for which Pelosi interns get compensated that we should be aware of?
Ratface @ 56:
is that you chris crocker?
The Republicans have no intention of drilling off shore or onshore.They are quite happy with the current situation. This is an attempt to get those additional leases that have eluded them for so long. Of course the American people are falling for thier scheme as usual. Drill here drill now pay less? What a scam!! They wont even drill the millions acres of onshore and offshore leases they have now!!
Ratface @ 80:
Okay. Nobody in America voted for W Bush. You win. :-(
It takes 2 to tango. Bush does his shit, and Pelosi and Reid enable it.
Is that so hard for you to understand. Or are you unaware that the executive branch of the US government does not pass the laws?
Ratface @ 69:
how can I not be amused by somebody calling themselves 'ratface' professing superior intelligence?
:D
I think the price of oil is a secondary benefit for Cheney. He got Hallburton into ruinous asbestos liability when he was running it. If they didn't have a license to steal from the government right now, his stock options would be toilet paper.
oh really @ 76:
I think she made this obvious when she tried to appoint the pork king as majority leader.
Ratface @ 81:
Okay. Nobody in America voted for W Bush. You win. :-(
diebold did
That's nice and all... but what are you doing as speaker of the house?
Nancy has been drinking too much of her own wine that it has effected her rational thinking. Oil is needed and will be for many years. If we prolong the exploration for oil our economy will decline, unemployment will rapidly expand and we will all suffer.
danL @ 84:
exactly, it's nothing more than a test of wills to run out the clock.
Sam Adams @ 91:
this message brought to you by exxon/mobil
ron Ft Lauderdale @ 40:
So forth time's a charm? Fifth? Wait there's an election in um 2021 and I'm almost sure they'll have started to think about doing something then. Trust me! And if they haven't by then... we'll really write some strongly worded letters. Yessir.
VietVet8666 @ 1:
seriously...ive so had enough of her...
'maybe if we continue to let them do whatever they want, the american people will see what bad people they are'
she's a gutless worm whos desperate to play nice and thats why congress' approval rating is lower than the president's.
seriously...thats the ONLY reason...if the american people saw that she had the guts to punt his ass out of office, EVERYBODY would win...especially congressional democrats.
Uhhhhh... is Pelosi up for re-election this year?
Nada @ 94:
Everybody knows that the only reason why the Dems haven't been able to do anything for the past decade, it is because Nader and his minions go at night and force them poor Dems at gun point to undo every liberal legislation they have ready to go for the next day. That weasel! Forcing the poor dems to enable this clusterfuck just so he can prove his point that there is very little difference at the end of the day between the Dems and the GOP.
Alzuben You seem to be an apologist for Nancy
You know, as much as I hate republicans and their filibustering our bills... I congratulate them.
They have the spine and the balls to filibuster any and all bills they dislike. I could WISH that democrats could grow a spine and even vote down republican bills.
The minority party is ruling like it's the majority. And doing a damn good job at it.
No, Bush/Cheney, their cronies, and their Repug base are responsible for what is happening now. The Dems in the Senate can do vey little, if the Repug Senators don’t join in to get the 60 vote mark needed to over-ride Bush.
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You need 60 just to get to cloture. If Bush vetoes, you need 66.
I'm sorry, I usually don't pick on looks but Nancy looks like she's spent too much time with a plastic surgeon .... she looks awful.
alzuben @ 50:
alzuben @ 34:
alzuben @ 30:
Sam Adams @ 98:
lol, think speak!
you mean the same alzuben who has said this?
is it because I have failed to make my position clear...or that I use big words?
Ratface @ 62:
Nancy Did NOT put the Evil there BUT SHE IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO KEEP HIM.
WHY?
One reason could be AIPAC.
Well, I thought Jon Stewart's analogy said it best. paraphrased
"I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I'm saying is. . .
look. If we elected Colonel Sanders president and a few years later
the price of chicken tripled. . . Well. I'm just sayin'. I'd be
lookin' at him."
Batting for the Oil Companies much, Wolf?
On one hand Pelosi is right, but that statement doesn't go far enough in explaing why Congress has been out to lunch regarding the energy problem. Where these two men from the oil patch failed, was in not bringing forward policies that would have begun the process of making us energy independent through the use of alternative energies. Where Congress has failed has been in taking a leadership role in seeing a problem and demanding any type of action.
As things stand today, the world more or less can pump 85 million barrels a day. But for the first time in modern history, demand has now out stripped current supply by over 2 million barrels a day. We can limp along for a while, but everything including throwing the kitchen sink at this is what is required. Drilling for more oil isn't the answer as we're killing our planet with our addiction to fossil fuels. We have to start bringing alternatives onto the front burner. These technologies have been around for decades, but as Vice President Gore has stated, we need to level the playing field by allowing inventors, entrepreneurs and engineers in a free market system to bring these technologies forward.
We're already seeing this happen in countries like Japan that just introduced a car that can run on water. But whether wind, solar or any other technology, we have to do something now!
Pelosi is a leech and a louse on the Americans backs. Placed there by the biggest vampiristic insidious dogs known as the "AIPAC" lobby group.
The day she gets jailed for failing to proceed with Impeachment is the day I will eat a Ham Bagel in celebration.
High oil prices are also caused by the idiot Democrats in the House and their plan to blockade Iran's ports.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d110:h.con.res.00362:
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If I could blame my counterpart for my failure to live up to my responsibilities, I could be called Nancy Pelosi!
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Pelosi does not know what she is talking about. But if you believe oil prices are high because of increased speculation related to the Iraq debacle then she is clearly as guilty as Bush/Cheney.
Ratface,
How is that "bipartisan" strategy working out for your Dem congress heroes? You know, the strategy to give Bush everything he wants and then cry it's not your fault; you're just going along to get along.
Hey Nancy..Please bury your face between {Deleted}.. Oh.. what's that?... You already did that with George Bush? Never Mind......
{Edited, Over the top. SiteMonitor}
The finger pointing is getting real, real, REAL...old.
Nothing is being done.
The immunity is working as they wish.
Who will end up being behind bars? Them,...or us citizens, for merely asking, WOULD YOU PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ...DO THE RIGHT THING THAT THE PEOPLE PAY YOU FOR, AND WANT SO BADLY, BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE?
We all know what the many problems are. They are nothing but, REHASHED repeatedly.
Where are the built in checks and balances that have been there for centuries to stop the crimes?
If they are not there, IT IS... plain and simply, a DICTATORSHIP.
Quit talking, do something.
VietVet8666 @ 24:
Don't speak for me. You have no right. I don't like Rahm and Steny but, for ME, the jury is still out on Nancy. Apparently, you disagree.
Yeah Nancy, and your phony rich ass is greatly responsible for them remaining there.
Great observation by Nancy No Credibility Pelosi. I hope she gets the Boot!
I'll keep saying it until it sinks in: Don't trust anyone making more than $150,000 a year.
Republican Alert The Truth Has Been Spoken
I wonder what happens to the Republicans when the truth about an issue gets out. The MSM has not kept the camera on any Democrat long enough to tell all the facts concerning what drilling will do. Instead, the Wolf Blitzers of the world would have you believe, the Democrats are stopping what the people want.
So far, it is not clear what questions have been asked of the American people, and if this is going to be a determinant, lets put it on a ballot to get to what the people want. I know the initial question asked by Gallup was misleading at best. it asked "if it would lower gas prices, would you support offshore drilling?" It is misleading because no oil will come of the venture for at least 10 years. I am not sure, after the greedy profit margin the oil companies now enjoy, the American people wants to give them the right to make this kind of money from land that belongs to the American people. At some point, does any American want to know "what about their cut in this get rich land give away?"
With the exposure to issues organizations like C&L bring, the Democrats finally are allowed to deliver the truth concerning these issues in its entirety. As it stands, the MSM will only play bits and pieces of the truth. This fractured delivery often makes the Democrats seem scattered and without any cohesive plan. The MSM are doing this very thing to Barack Obama. If you have not noticed, they are not reported his messages to the people in its entirety. The chopped up version takes away Obama's primary weapon: His ability to speak and deliver a moving speech.
The Republicans can only get away with apathy when they can shorten, distort, or mislead issues. They have got to be a little uneasy when they saw Nancy Polosi speaking the truth. To hear Polosi say her congress has passed every bill they said they would pass, with the exception being getting out of this war, the lying Right must feel like they just got caught with their hand in the cookie jar. It makes you appreciate sites like C&L even more.
Joseph
Ratface @ 56:
You are posting here, what does that say about you, bonehead?
What is the point of tearing down/smearing/verbally abusing a person who states
1) we could release some oil from the reserves
2) oil companies already have plenty of off shore drilling leases w/o having to open up environmentally sensitive areas
3) the senate is a roadblock (my 2 senators vote with Bush everytime)
4) drilling off shore does not solve the problem at hand.
Everything she said made sense to me... Why the incredible anger and hatred? How is this spewing of venom going to lead us to a collaborative, collective, conscience future?
Seems like she is gathering sound bits for her 2008 election campaign commercials.
Well, E.L., you may contrast and compare what Nancy said, with what she actually did.
Fact of the matter is, for all of her complaining about Bush, she has enabled nearly every thing he wanted and the American people did not want.
And trying to blame her capitulation on FISA on the senate (which at the time she claimed was a "compromise" on a "good bill") is beyond childish. She should proudly take responsibility for any vote she makes.
I don't care for a collaborative, collective future meeting the rabid right wing's demands. And neither do the American people.
constituent @ 38:
That are totally b.s.
The House of Representatives must first pass “articles of impeachment” by a simple majority. The articles of impeachment constitute the formal allegations. Upon passage, the defendant has been formally “impeached.”
The slim major stuff is a ruse.
And what are you going to do about these two criminals in the White House Nancy
when articles of impeachment come to the table?
Nancy Pelosi: "Oh...nothing as usual...sigh"
Anyone catch what crap Cass Sunstein is trying to feed to the netroots? That there should be no criminal accountability for the Bush administration, since that will just lead to a tit-for-tat?
No kidding he thinks this. And the real problem is that this idiot is one of Obama's closest advisors.
Pelsoi bashed Bush's comment about giving up golf for the troops, today.
He said that like 3 months ago and she just got around to say anything about it today?
She is getting sound bytes for campaign materials.
Yep, now that elections are coming up, wow, look at how brave and strong the Dem pols are!
Blitzer spouts "oilman" talking points, never once mentioning or asking about tax credits or funding for green/renewable energy technologies.
He's a corporate worm.
I do not care what nancy says.
I care what she does.
nancy does nothing.
Oil Refining became very profitable shortly after the two oil barons took office. Extremely profitable. Someone publicize it! It just so happened that I had been watching a small oil refining stock for 15+ years... it was hovering around $5-8 per share for many years. it ran up over $80 with little news. Go figure. I have heard it said before on NPR i believe, but no one talks about it, ever! just me.
Refining is much more profitable now than just 10 years ago.
[Deleted. With an email addy like 'fuckthemods@biteme.com' I gotta say, your comments probably won't be making it to the boards-Sitemonitor]
danL @ 84:
It does seem like the classic resurface of the engaging wedge issue to divert attention away from practicality in the minds of potential voters.
I'm no fan of Pelosi, but I thought she handled herself pretty well with Blitzer, who completely typified the ignorant American, making claims that are directly from the Bush PR office.
snag @ 2:
Your comment is interesting, I'm surprised nobody else commented on it. What about oil stock speculation? That has also added to the high price of oil. But I agree with the gist of your argument, our devalued currency has played a much larger role than anyone's talking about. Neither party will be able to bring down prices in the short-term unless the oil oligarchies play along.
Joe Tseng @ 134:
http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69257
a short read on what airlines have to say about speculators
who owns more oil exxon nope....shell nope valero nope
morgan stanley yup
http://www.321energy.com/editorials/fox/fox061808.html
I'm afraid that the American people don't get it, and will blame "they" for these troubles. "They" being oil companies, politicians, wall st, a-rabs, etc. The pols, even if they know better won't tell it straight. It's like the New Yorker cover, people just don't get it
Yea, I agree with Nancy, now let's Impeach the bastards
Let's all stop paying taxes. Simple solution. We paid for the oil reserves. Hand them over or get no more from us. What kind of government is this? Oh, forgot! The same one that keeps telling me I'm going to lose all the thousands I've paid into Social Security. Guess I'll work until I croak. Or maybe I'll move to Sweden before then.
Nancy "Off the Table" Pelosi is a disgrace. Her inaction makes her complicit in the crimes of this administration. I hope the voters in her SanFran district vote her sorry ass out of office. She doesn't deserve to be Speaker, let alone a Congresswoman. Harry Reid is no better. John Conyers seems to have lost his cojones too. Vote out the whole sorry bunch of them this November. Kucinich should be Speaker.
Yes, too little, too late, Nancy.
Give her the boot and Harry Reid too... Come to think of it, ditch most of the incumbent Democrats and all the Republicans.
One would wonder why Nancy Pelosi neglected to mention that her party's candidate, Barak Obama, voted FOR Dick Cheney's Energy Bill giving huge subsidies and tax breaks to the big oil companies.
Hillary Clinton and John McCain wisely voted AGAINST that Cheney Energy Bill.
But then again, Ms. Pelosi is not known for her political honesty. She and Harry Reid both pushed for the FISA bill on behalf of the Bush administration, didn't they?
Nancy is delusional. "Her" House did not do everything it could do, because she wouldn'y, and still refuses to, allow it to happen. Bush and Cheney should have been impeached for their acts of treason, bribery and high crimes and misdemeanors. she's part of the problems and just as guilty as everyone else in the Bush regime.
Man, but I am learning to despise these corporatists.
Nancy and Harry. Change we can believe in.
Right?
Peak Oil does not care who is in the White House.
Medford Tim @ 53:
I've called Reid's office many times to complain precisely about this manipulation of procedure by Reid. Reid's rep will typically defend what's happening as the inevitable result of the close dem/rep balance in the senate, but I don't let them get away with it! A good example of Reid's complete hypocracy and betrayal is the FISA bill. As doggiebobo says, Reid did not have to allow the vote to come to the floor. Period. Instead, he enabled it, AND--in a stunning show of hypocracy--proceeded to vote against the bill at the same time!
Call Reid, call Pelosi before votes happen and demand they use all procedural methods possible to achieve what they say is their goal!
She sounds so intelligent on the clip. Too bad she's stupidly against impeachment. She agrees with Wolf that the country is in a dire situation.
The big money in oil is made by leaving as much oil as possible in the ground i.e controlling supply to meet demand at the highest possible price that won't significantly reduce demand. It's no accident that big oil has not built a refinery since 1974 and has closed half of the refineries it had then or that we export 17% of what we do refine while running those remaining refineries at capacity. Even if we were swimming in oil we lack the capacity to refine it and the surplus inventory would only reduce oil prices. If we eliminated refined exports that would increase domestic gasoline supply and reduce prices at the pump. Why would the oil companies want to do that? The only reason they want unlimited drilling rights is to jack stock prices even further by laying claim to all remaining domestic reserves. Those reserves will be exploited only to serve existing or modestly expanded refinery capacity and will increase prices even further due to the cost of new exploration, infrastructure and a desire to keep inventories low.
Radhika @ 10:
When Bush starts another war with IRAN, it will be NANCY who is responsible. She will have blood on her hands as the great enabler.
For all the lip service President Bush pays to his commitment to renewable energy, the fact is spending has been on the stagnant since the mid-1990’s.
This is a bit of an understatement.
The facts. The REAL reason we are at the mercy of foreign (and hostile) oil producing countries and greedy domestic energy barons, the REAL reason why we're in this dire predicament? The Republicans. It has been their unswerving (paid) alligence to Big Oil and Coal and conspiracy to back-burner and trivialize clean and renewable energies like solar and wind every step of the way.
We need never have been in this predicament. If they had decided to do the right thing way back when we might have been free of oil by now. It's a scandal of the first order. People have been calling for clean alternatives for decades now but the Republicans in Washington, in bed with Fat Cat CEOs, have done all they could to favor Oil and Coal by giving them huge subsidies and tax breaks while simultaneously roadblocking R&D into renewables. Why? Because de-centralized alternatives would mean no longer being dependent on a large central corporation to provide one's energy needs. A population with their own solar panels or wind turbines etc. would OWN their energy and not have to continually pay for it and they simply could not have that. With all stationary buildings "off-the-grid" we could have greatly reduced oil use (drastically cutting greenhouse gas emmissions in the bargain) and made a dwindling supply last longer, perhaps long enough for us to come up with a better solution for transportation. But no. Frankly, it's just insane.
One would think that with the sudden spiking of gas prices recently, though, these politicians would remember their supposed role of looking out for the American people and would realize that we should be investing in renewables - but you’d be wrong.
“Separately, Democrats also failed to get Republican support for a proposal to extend tax breaks for wind, solar and other alternative energy development, and for the promotion of energy efficiency and conservation. The tax breaks have either expired or are scheduled to end this year…. The oil companies could have avoided the tax if they invested the money in alternative energy projects or refinery expansion. It also would have rescinded oil company tax breaks — worth $17 billion over the next 10 years — with the revenue to be used for tax incentives to producers of wind, solar and other alternative energy sources as well as for energy conservation.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/10/republicans-block-extra-t_n_106...
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jul2002/2002-07-19-09.asp#anchor2
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1525/is_4_85/ai_63127627
When Bill Clinton tried to make it fairer again the Republicans put the breaks on anything that could lead to a switch away from dirty energy (oil, coal, nuclear).
http://clinton4.nara.gov/WH/new/html/Tue_Oct_3_130025_2000.html
Maybe no one want's to touch it but it's the 500 lb gorilla in the living room, and we all know it. Isn't it time to tell the truth?
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