"I Call Insurance Company Rules" Anti-insurance rally tomorrow
By Bill W. Sunday Jul 20, 2008 12:00pm"You don't know insurance company rules? Oh, they're so sweet..."
Disclaimer: "Insurance company rules not compatible with Health Care for America Now. Which side are you on?"
h/t Jax
UPDATE: John Amato: Progressives fire back at insurers
Health Care for America Now announced Friday that it plans a news conference and a rally next week to counter the insurance industry's Campaign for an American Solution, which launches in Columbus, Ohio, on Tuesday with a roundtable discussion among uninsured locals.
"They're pretending that the health industry represents the American public, and we need to make it really clear to them and the public that all they represent are their own profits," said Richard Kirsch, national campaign manager for.
On Tuesday, the group plans to rally about 300 supporters outside the Columbus YWCA, where America's Health Insurance Plans will hold its roundtable.
The $40 million it plans to spend by year's end will put 100 organizers in 45 states to hold town hall meetings, go door to door, staff phone banks and take action outside insurance offices. Already, the group has aired television spots in an extensive adverting campaign.
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"I call nunchucks" LOL
wow. A genuinely funny political ad. I can hear people saying "I call insurance company rules!". brilliant.
"Calvinball on crack!
rules smules...
tag, you're F**k
Great ad.
Does anybody remember what ever happened to the Dingle-Norwood bill?
'Insurance Company Rules' reminds me of 'Credit Card Company Rules.' A lot. Like they were thought of by the same guy.
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Simple rule in insurance; when in trouble, you'[re canceled.
funny ad.........i am on the side for universal healthare
some how some way this needs to happen this presidential term. increase the size of the paying recepient pool and implement effencies. there will be discussion whether to mandate or not. although different ....my auto insurance is a mandate.
healthcare costs increase approximately 10% a year compare that to wage increases. i believe the number one reason for bankruptcy is healthcare bills.
since there are people who seek/ receive care they can't afford some of the losses taken on by hospitals/clinics are passed on to paying/insured members.....hillary pointed this out as an added tax.
with the influx of people into the country working for
minimum wage...they can't afford healthcare so the
public bares the cost...this has to change now.
Sad But the video is so true that it's hard to laugh. For me I want some of that socialized Euro-commie hate-republicans health care. The idea of for profit health care makes me sick. Medicare for all.
healthcare's favorite member payspays..pays...but never receives care
It's for reasons implicated in this whole discussion that everyone should be very wary of anyone calling for 'plebiscitary' democracy. Imagine a Constitutional Convention the agenda of which was decided by competing attack/sound bite ads...Nyo, nyo, nyo...not a good idea...
This little spot about the insurance industry might be funny if only...
But the truth is, there is nothing funny about the insurance extortion racket...
The truth of it is no less palatable when presented as snark and parody when it's your family and a loved ones health being put thru the financial ringer over donut holes and reductions in medicare funding and insurance funding gaps and medicaid non compliance and insurance fraud purpitrated by the very institutions who are suppose to work together and supposedly make this shit work.. Not to mention unfunded political health mandates like forced mandatory health insurance under onerous conditions or else... and all other forms of political and business inspired bullshit that this little 'insurance company rules' joke actually equates to..... All in all, just one more thing to be pissed off about as regards, politics in general, congress in particlar, insurance companies of all stripes specifically and lobbiests for said industry... The heroin dealers of social inequity.............Ya know folks... I'm actually holding back my real feelings here... I don't need to blow the top off my BP right off the bat on a monday morning...................JD
*smile* Best Al Gore voice: "What about the Dingle-Norwood bill?"
The writing is already on the wall. American is finally headed for a health care system that works, after almost 40 years of the Nixonian HMO corporate welfare scheme.
Take a look at the stock chart for the Unitedhealth Group. It's clear that the rats are already jumping ship. Of course, not before the CEO, William McGuire gave himself a 1.2 billion dollar golden parachute. So, there's a potential 1.2 billion in healthcare that holders of Unitedhealth insurance didn't get. But hey, if you took the profit incentive out of HMOs, there would be no more incentive to do medical research, right?
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=UNH&t=5y&l=on&z=l&q=l&c=
And then there's the real world in which you must fight fire with fire if you want to raise the awareness of John Q. Public.
How much better off would health care be if all the insurance salesmen got jobs that really help people? After the initial sale, these folks don't do much at all, except get in the way when a real emergency comes along.
I'm tired of having to call my insurance co. to see if they will cover something or not, only to have them renege once the procedure is finished. Also, if access to doctors is such a bottleneck, why do we have them waste so much time dealing with insurance companies that add no value to health care?
The argument that insurance salesmen serve as some sort of "gatekeeper" to prevent insurance companies from taking on too much risk is total B.S. First of all, they are salesmen: they will sell anything and fudge the facts when needed (see the mortgage industry and the current housing crisis). Secondly, how much more "risk" could health care afford to take on if we did not have to pay the commissions for insurance salesmen, the exorbitant salaries of insurance executives, and the profits of insurance company stock holders?
Anyone who still believes in the "free market" has not been paying attention. We bailed out the mortgage industry after they made their profits. It's time we stop privatizing gains while socializing risks. If I'm going to pay for insurance or a mortgage, I only want to pay once: not one time to cover the agent's commissions and a second time to cover the losses of a financial shell game.
Here's a direct quote from my insurance agent:
"This is a business that loves to take your money,
and hates to give it back."
Single Payer Universal Health Care NOW!!
It is hypocritical for politicians to rail against the dangers and pitfalls of single payer universal healthcare when thay all have it and use it.
If it's so bad why do they all have it?
If it's good enough for Dickie Cheney and our politicians then it's good enough for the rest of us too!
I am on Medicare, and they are doing a good job. They pay part of all of my bills and my supplemental pays the rest. Part D takes care of my prescriptions, and the supplemental to that pays what Part D doesn't pay, except for a percentage that I have to pay.
I pay premiums for Medicare Part B and Part D, Supplemental thru my past employer, and another for drug coverage.
No one should get rich off the misfortunes of others, I therefore propose Universal Healthcare, added either to an expanded Medicare system, or privately to a non-profit organization created with salaries equal to federal salaries without golden parachute retirement bonuses. Those who wish to subscribe will pay an additional 'tax' which will replace the insurance premium they now pay. I pay for Medicare Part B and Part D, Supplemental hrtu my past employer, and another for drug coverage.
As in auto insurance, people may opt out if they have proof of either self-insurance or a private policy equal to, or better that what UH provides.
I believe that the tax will be less than premiums paid now when you consider that all the insurance companies duplicate each other in paying for real estate, equipment (office, computer, etc.), employees (office and agents) and most of all the toploaded officers raking in millions of the premiums they charge.
The charge I often hear that it would lower standards of medical care is simply not true, since people will be free to see any doctor or hospital who accept the plan, and most will. If not they can opt to see any facility at their own cost. Cosmetic surgery and related unnecessary procedures would not be covered
THere seems to be some confusion as to the location. The story says the YWCA (downtown columbus on North 4th street) at 10am, but the organizer's info says Hyatt on Capitol Square (downtown on State & 3rd) at 11am.
Link here
Or maybe I'm just reading it all wrong (possible - it's way too hot to be thinking today).
Funny thing .. I'm on the phone to my health insurance company right now .. trying to get a new nebulizer .. I was just told that a new nebulizer falls into a gray area because:
1. my coverage is only for a replacement nebulizer
2. since we've only had this health insurance for 2 years and my old nebulizer is over 10 years old, they did n't purchase it to begin with
3, it could be considered a "convience"
Oh FUCK yeah! Breathing is a convience!!!!!
I'm on the transfer merry go round now ....
GIVE ME SOCIALIZED, SINGLE PAYER MEDICINE!
BEST AD EVER!
The insurance companies have forfeited all rights to participate in healthcare. We need universal single payer heathcare NOT universal health insurance. I think We've had all the healthcare we can stand.
Great ad. The only way to improve it would be to make it about the current regime's foreign policy. Domestic too for that matter. The whole country is a racket run by corporatists.
I'll have war lies for 3 trillion Alex.
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How long is this crock of sh#! going to go on? I mean really, how long? The answer is as obvious as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. Insurance companies aren't going to be part of the solution because they are the problem, along with their buddies in the drug industry. Health insurance is going to be extinct in this country. Single payer, and oh yes, you get to choose your doctor is the only way to go. There is no negotiating or discussions with the health insurance companies. They are going to go the way of the dinosaurs. They have to for the health and good of the country. End of story.
It would be funny if it were not true.
i got nunchucks!!!
the lulz!
"THere seems to be some confusion as to the location. The story says the YWCA (downtown columbus on North 4th street) at 10am, but the organizer’s info says Hyatt on Capitol Square (downtown on State & 3rd) at 11am."
you gotta go with HCAN's instructions, they are staging people at the location and THEN going to the protest. They are within a block or so of each other.
some of the nutjob deadender blogs were claiming some sort of conspiracy about this.
follow the HCAN instructions and meet at the staging area prior to marching to the Y.
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