Malkin's commenter on the TN Church Gunman: He wanted to discredit Conservatives
By John Amato Sunday Jul 27, 2008 7:00pmYou know what I think? He didn't hate liberals. He hated Christians. He wanted to leave the impression that he is conservative who hates liberals, however, to discredit conservatives.
Evil.
The right wing has been selectively pulling comments from left wing blogs to try and blur the line between author and anonymous poster for years and as usual the media quickly lapped it up. Well, check this out. It's a comment about the horrific shooting spree in TN. And Malkin screens the people that can comment on her site with great vigilance, so what does that tell you?


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He hated Christians and liberals.
Why do you think he went after the Unitairans?
Is (gri)malkin trying to be funnier than Franken?
Oh yeah?
Oh, why do you people hate michelle and the troops and jesus so much? All that ruining the country you've been doing has just made you bitter...
The comment is actually from a liberal trying to discredit conservatives, sneaking past Malkin's tenacious screening?
Malkin's in the middle?
arguing about this tragedy makes about as much sense as a dog chasing a car.
good people died and a kook will be locked away for a long time (hopefully).
let's leave our expert opinions to ourselves.
I know some dumb people, but even they have a sense of shame. Malking doesn't
Noun @ 1:
He also hates gays and his wife. He's no doubt a card carrying reich-winger.
Spin it as much as you like, reich-wingers, this freak murderer is one of your own.
It seems wrong to post this, I mean what if I posted that it was a conservative posing as a liberal posing as a conservative in order to discredit the liberals. Would we want that posted over there or in the MSM? I mean while I agree that it's BS to hold a blog responsible for the anonymous wackjobs that frequent the site, why would we do it now? It may be serios and ernest and probably is but it'd be easy to go to their site and go outrageous just enough to get past the scrutiny and still shock your average American if taken seriously.
Riiiigghhhhtttttt. A liberal trying to make the Conservatives look bad. Yep Uh Huh, Suuuuurrreeeeeeeeeee!
I suppose Timothy McVeigh was doing the same thing too.
I have to admit, The Liberals have shown an amazing amount of restraint for the last seven and one half years.
Malkin? Who's that?
instaputz has some more on malkin posters' conspiracy theories and some bat54!+ insane reynold's ramblings as well:
http://instaputz.blogspot.com/
I made comment number eight, above, but then scrolled down and saw the piece on the gunman. Right Michelle. That guy sure does look like a liberal.
Uh, isn't this just nutpicking?
You guys kinda bitch a lot when the other side does it, now you're doing it yourself.
Whole lot of pot calling the kettle black methinks.
bush and cheney are actually raging leftists......just trying to get people to hate on the right
George dubyah Bush (D)
Reverend J @ 14:
Yer right. We're sorry. We'll just sit down and STFU now. Thanks so much for the friendly reminder.
Reverend J @ 14:
The GOP needs no help from us, Their doing just fine on their own.
Just look at the last seven years.
Brad @ 5:
No no no, it's a conservative posing as a liberal posing as a conservative. you are saying he's a double agent, I'm saying he's a triple agent, which is obviously better, by one exactly.
I find it interesting that almost every news account I have read on this story excluded this information.
So if it was really a liberal that killed those other liberals then how do you explain his possession of a gun? We all know all liberals don't have guns because the moment we get one we sell it to donate to the ACLU so they can fake moon landings.
"The church’s Web site states that it has worked for “desegregation, racial harmony, fair wages, women’s rights and gay rights” since the 1950s. Current ministries involve emergency aid for the needy, school tutoring and support for the homeless, as well as a cafe that provides a gathering place for gay and lesbian high-schoolers."
Them damn Christ-punchers.
pfeld @ 13:
snark\ Yah, I mean no one but a liberal trying to pose as a conservative would have all three of those books at home. I'm sure if we went to freepers we couldn't find a handful of guys with 2 of those books let alone all three, I smell coverup. /snark
I'm sure O'Reilly will come out (heh) and say that anyone who 'makes a big deal' out of this is just playing politics with the tragedy. Something a paragon of virtue, discretion and tact such as himself would never do of course...
JinIll @ 17:
Then my work here is done.
Proud2bHumble @ 6:
cute, P2B, but really, she's ALL OVER things like this.
You knew Malcontent wouldn't miss this chance to blame this on libruls. now certainly, if a gun-totin', bitter and unemployed white man shot up a church, he was librul.
If Conservatives were true strict Constructionists, they'd insist that the 2nd Amendment only applies to muzzle loading muskets and flintlocks. Surely the Framers did not predict the advent of double barreled shot guns, assault rifles and automatic pistols.
Reverend J @ 25:
Have patience with the 'rev.' Obviously not playing with a full deck...
Snowball @ 20:
What no The Catcher in the Rye? Shameful, well I guess O'Reilly is the new J. D. Salinger, hey thats better than a Peabody right?
extreme right wing liberal hater they exist...i don't believe anything malkin writes
Reverend J @ 25:
Yeah, concern troll must be a taxing position.
This blogger is admitting to carrying a concealed weapon in a church. Interesting. In Michigan there would be severe penalties.
The shooter committed murder and this blogger is trying to mix it up, besides being extremely rude. Bizarre.
From what's her name page:
How do we know Michelle Malkin is not a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad? I don't trust her for some reason.
Attila the Appeaser, No Stomach for Kristol @ 32:
That job is left to Drugbaugh, O'Racist, and Savage-Weiner.
Well, I'd like to see Fux try to put this in the no spin zone.
This is entirely Wiener, Hannity and Billo fault.
OH!!! can't forget Limpbaughlls. Coultergiest, Malkin and all the rest of these cretins.
I was wondering when something like this would happen. I suppose the Secret Service guarding Obama has stepped up their security now. As well they should.
Whether he targeted the church for it's theology or politics is largely moot, since they see their political activity as a part of their theology.
I think the reichwingers like (gri)malkin are desperately overreaching to protect their image which is already in tatters rather than feel for the victims is significant.
Unitarian/Universalists are monad thelogists not trinitarian. The Unitarian faith was ran out of Western Europe and found a home in the Carpathian mountains, particularly around Romania, which was interesting, being that was an Eastern Orthodox country, nearly as authoritarian as the Roman Catholic West.
Today the UU even have CUUPS, which if I remember correctly means Covenant of Unitarian Universalist Pagans, so some occultic groups meet there.
That's why reichwingers have no concern for the victims and only for themselves.
That just shows you how DEVIOUS we Liberals are.
Snowball @ 27:
If the conservatives were conservatives, we wouldn't be looking at a half trillion dollars a year budget deficit.
i think its a moderate who hates how liberals look at conservatives when they talk about libertarians who love populists.
*whew!*
Noun @ 1:
That's why Malkin's claim is so ridiculous. Unitarian Universalists ARE liberal in their social action activities, but they aren't "Christian" but rather are pan-religious, studying finding commonalities and value in all the major religions.
People from that church should think about suing those media personalities and their employers on his "reading list" -- they incite people's hatred, and some lunatics will absolutely resort to this kind of violence, just as the rightwing ranting against abortion resulted in the murder of physicians and bombing of clinics.
Reverend J @ 25:
Your work was done yesterday in that church. You feast on this sort of violent bigotry. And anything that anyone says to oppose your kind, you already have an answer for.
Get out.
Mike @ 29:
Certainly, none of those talking heads pulled the trigger, but Hitler and Goebbels didn't directly kill anybody either. For that matter, neither did Charles Manson however, as a civilized society, we still hold them to account.
Reverend J @ 25:
Nice to see that you won't be returning ........
The monads were murdered and/or chased out Europe by the successful Constantine Christians nee sun worshippers after the Council of Nicea (380 ce?) from which we get the Nicene Creed.
Fortunately today most Christians are like Pelagius and his heretical Pelegians of the 5th century. Pelagius taught that heaven was achievable by all under their own efforts, but Christianity makes a hard job easier.
Woo boy. The posters at MM's site are pretty lame. I can't even follow their insults! Now I need a hot shower to wash the conservative stink off of me. Blehhh...
Snowball @ 41:
What a nutcase she is! If he hates Christians, he picked the wrong denomination to attack since UUs are not necessarily Christian. I guess she's to stupid to to realize that. No surprise there!
ysbaddaden @ 35:
Sometimes you just bend my mind, ys...
You're right, John.
Pulling and posting "comments" from any political blog is Bush league.
So what's the point here? Their nutbags are crazier than our nutbags?
ysbaddaden @ 43:
Where was old Pelagius when I needed him? I was THIS close to achieving heaven under my own effort, but got my finger snagged on the hook to her bra strap.
1. This shooter intended to strike at a fundamental American right to political freedom. He attacked innocents on the basis of their ideology. HE IS THEREFORE A TERRORIST.
2. He should be subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques to determine if he has other cohorts who are planning events as we speak.
3. His mentors (everyone who has exhorted violence against "liberals" either directly or by claiming that "liberals" help terrorists or hate America, and that includes Coulter, Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh and much of the Fear Outrage Xenophobia News Network etc) should be treated as terrorist enablers, just as the Egyptian Imam was charged and convicted for inspiring the 1993 WTC bombers even though he gave them little or no direct material support.
According to this person, liberals who apparently are retarded, whom he calls 'libtards', are to be found on college campuses.
He would be more polite to say that liberals are intellectually challenged, though they are found on college campuses. Isn't wonderful that our colleges offer those poor liberals a chance to improve themselve, challenged as they are.
This while (s)he misspells the word 'why'.
I rather suspect it is a he, the phrase 'packing heat' rather leads me in that direction.
The comportment speaks for itself.
Brad @ 5:
No, it's a liberal pretending to be a conservative pretending to be a liberal pretending to be a conservative.
I've subscribed to many of these wacko sites, but it is almost impossible to post anything. They want to rant, but don't want any feedback of any kind.
oZer @ 7:
Yeah. 2nded.
I'm out.
Johnny2Bad @ 48:
Sounds about right to me.
I wish the media and the pundits would leave all speculation out of this sad situation. This was murder committed by a deranged individual. To give it any more credence may set this guy up as some sort of hero, which is the last thing anyone would want to see. Just as with the school shootings after Columbine, I see the potential for dozens more just like Adkisson, eating this up in the news and making their grand plans for the future.
The comparison between today's right wing talking heads and the responsibility of Hutu hate radio in Rwanda is spot on.
Michelle Malkin, loon extraordinaire, comes to the conclusion that someone who hated gays, has always been a southern confederate conservative, and kills people at a (basically) secular humanist church, must be a Christian-hating liberal.
And the media laps it up.
Great job, stenographers. Hope you're proud to be parroting abject lunacy.
Snowball @ 57:
...just waiting for the phrase "liberal cockroaches" to spew out of some random hole...
Lilybelle @ 52:
I'm beginning to have flashbacks to scenes from "Victor Victoria".
I am sure that by the end of the day the spin doctors will make the right wing the "true" victims of this tragedy.
Comparing these people to scum would be an insult to detritus...
I think I smell a deep, dark closet. Does Adkisson have a wife? If so, I'd love to interview her about their sex life. it's the only explanation that fits the profile of this type of crime.
Why do we care about that bitch!
Unlike C&L and HuffPo, where you are allowed to say anything you want excluding flamebaiting and incitement to violence, Malkin's blog censors any comment they disagree with. If the moderators there didn't approve of a comment, it would not have been posted.
they need no help from murdering wingnuts....they discredit themselves all by themselves.....every time they open their gaping maws...........................
oZer @ 7:
Yeah, the ostrich approach... it always works so well, don't it?
ysbaddaden @ 35:
Considering the history of Eastern Rome, I'd dispute the Roman Catholics being more violent. Without an outside restraining force, we Christians are violent nasty buggers, much worse than similarly unrestrained Muslims. Fortunately, the US system for a long time has served as that sort of restraining force. If it ever completely collapses, the result would be catastrophic.
hood @ 63:
Because at some point, another wingnut may take her comments literally and we will see a redux of this tragedy.
That is why we should have 0 tolerance with hate speech, and that is why we should care.
But apparently we can't talk about this shooting because ....uh.....why?
Is there any doubt now that the press dutifully spins as much as they can in a pro-conservative frame? Whether from fear of being called "liberal" for not doing so, or just out of personal conservative convictions.
So nice of Sigmund Fraud to give Michelle Mentalcase the benefit of his expertise with an internet diagnosis.........
Talk about fucking absurd PRETZEL-LOGIC.
History records that it has always been conservatives who have gone on these kind of shooting sprees, or committed assassinations.
Plaster everything with the fact that this nonsense came courtesy of Michelle Malkin's website.
It truly makes me ill.
ysbaddaden @ 43:
In some ways, I wish we Christians had gone with something more like Modalism, as it would more easily display our commonality with the Jews and Muslims without linguistic circus-turns. The fact is, though, that unrestrained Christianity, without ya'll nonChristians and the Constitution to bind us, is a monster that needs to be kept in chains. Bad stuff happens without it.
She saw the word "church" and assumed that he was shooting at Christians. If she'd bother to look up "Unitarians" she'd know they aren't Christians. Deist, maybe, but not Christian. They don't believe Jesus is God.
It is understandable that people will try to make sense of the rambling psychosis of this sick, miserable bastard. It's what we do. Try to make sense of things. Unfortunately the only truth here is that a sick man took a gun and murdered random people because he was mentally ill. Period.
Shit happens.
More so in large populations.
conservatoire @ 72:
Always conservatives? I think President McKinley would disagree with that.
Johnny2Bad @ 48:
Keep your hands off my nutbag.
Of course other massacres of note was Juvenal (?) complaining tha Xians can't find precipices to throw themselves over, or ropes to hang themselves without forever making trouble for their authoritites in their lust for martyrdom.
Two apostles in the New Testament, I forget which ones, murdered another Christian because he tried to hold back some of his tithe to support his family.
Than of course was the wholesale slaughter between partisans of the rival popes Eusebius and Marcius (sp?)
Then was the good Xian general (one of the Nine Worthies) Godfrey of Boullion who slaughtered his Eastern Orthodox hosts in Greece right up to the steps of their most holy church Hagia Sophia.
Then there was King Richard the Lion Heart who promised safety for his prisoners to Saladdin, and then had them flayed alive in front of the Islamic hero.
Then there were centuries of torturing and burning people to death in both Catholic and Protestant sects.
The conservatives need no help to look bad.
This'll probably be my last entry as my dial-up is bogging down.
General_Rennenkampf @ 76:
Taking a cue from the malkinites:
Ah, but if the supposed leftist actually killed someone, then he wasn't really a leftist. Ha -- gotcha with mai awsoom mm lahjuk.
Nada @ 75:
Uh, and he just happened to have books by Micheal Savage, Bill O'Reilly and Sena Hannity as well as leaving a four page letter about how he was doing this because he hated Liberals and Gays.
Never mind that entire societies have been motivated to genocide by hate speech. There must be mass outbreaks of mental disorder. Perhaps it's contagious?
General_Rennenkampf @ 76:
enlighten us, please.
This guy is a liberal like ALL OF THESE GUYS are liberals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUE65Lea6kQ
Johnny2Bad @ 48:
TROLL ALERT!