BREAKING: House Panel Votes To Hold Rove In Contempt Of Congress
The House Judiciary Committee has voted 20-14 to approve a contempt of Congress resolution against former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove for his failure to appear after a Congressional subpoena.
Voting along party lines Wednesday morning, the committee said Rove broke the law by failing to appear at a July 10 hearing on allegations of White House influence over the Justice Department, including whether Rove encouraged prosecutions against Democrats.
The committee decision is a recommendation. It remains unclear whether Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) will allow a final vote.
UPDATE: From the House Judiciary Committee:
"Today's vote was an important statement by this Committee that no person - not even Karl Rove - is above the law." said Chairman John Conyers, Jr. "This week's Inspector General report on the pervasive politicization of the Department of Justice particularly underscores the urgent need for Mr. Rove to testify before Congress. Any suggestion that the matters for which Mr. Rove was subpoenaed are not important, or that no Administration misconduct has been revealed, is just inconsistent with the facts. Our investigation has revealed Mr. Rove to be a key figure in the firings of US Attorneys, and the questions about his role in the Siegelman case only continue to mount."
"Today's vote demonstrates that the House will not tolerate Mr. Rove's flawed excuses for avoiding his responsibility to obey a Congressional subpoena," said Rep. Linda Sánchez, Chair of the Judiciary Subcommittee on Commercial and Administrative Law. "We are serious about defending the legislative branch's constitutional oversight role, and it's time for Mr. Rove to get serious about following the law."
UPDATE II: Brave New Films has more from the Send Karl Rove To Jail Campaign.
Don't worry, KKKarl. No matter how bad this looks on your resume there's always a place for you at FOX News.
She better allow a final vote.
i remember when i used to get excited about shit like this.
It remains unclear whether Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) will allow a final vote.
it's very clear she won't.
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Will Pelosi allow a contempt vote? I bet she won't. If she does, I bet nothing happens with it anyway. Mukasey won't enforce a contempt citation, so nothing will come of this. The only way of holding this scumbag accountable is through the use of inherent contempt of congress. Unless Pelosi will allow that to happen, I bet she won't, this is just a joke.
Oh, don't worry. You can rest assured that Nancy Pelosi will step up to the plate for her team. Her real team, I mean. Nothing will happen.
pissed off patricia @ 2:
I would not count on it.
Conservativeslayer @ 5:
Ding, ding, ding.
Voting along party lines
So, all these "rule of law" republican hypocrits show their true colors. Party over the law, party over the country, party over the Constitution. What a bunch of assholes.
Of course Pelosi won't allow a vote. She's there to protect Bush and the Republican Party.
The wheels of justice sometimes grind slowly. But in this case, slow is better than too fast. I have a feeling that the pursuit of this matter will pick up pace sometime after January 20, 2008 when their is one less obstacle that could prevent a legitimate outcome from being realized.
I'm in contempt of Rove. And the right wing entirely. see http://cabdrollery.blogspot.com
Just another dog and pony show.
Turk Meister @ 9:
QFT. Who are they anyway? I should move to their state so I can vote them out of office. (Been living in this Liberal East Coast State for far too long anyway.)
"The committee decision is a recommendation. It remains unclear whether Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) will allow a final vote."
its sad and pathetic that this is even something we have to wonder about.
Answer hazy; ask again later.
Nancy Pelosi, thus far, is in contempt of the US Constitution and the rule of law. Why should she change now?
We have a criminal government. We don't have a country, we have a cesspool.
Nope. Not going to happen. Wasn't she already pushing them not to find him guilty of contempt?
Rusty Shackleford @ 1:
Just like Iran/Contra North. Getting a pardon fro crimes that help the conservative cause makes you a star.
The committee decision is a recommendation. It remains unclear whether Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) will allow a final vote.
I seem to feel the same way as just about everyone posting here. Pelosi is a coward, there will be no vote.
If this keeps up, and there's enough pressure, and a confluence of evidence against Rove, John Conyers may dictate a sternly worded letter to his assistant that will be posted for all to see.
Why would Pelosi allow a final vote on this? She is a complicit enabler of war criminals, a coward and a liar who, by her own actions, has proved that her oath of office is meaningless.
When Pelosi kicked off her book tour on The View and Joy Behar asked her, "why do you insist on not impeaching these people so that the world and America can really see the crimes that they’ve committed?" Pelosi did her best to avoid answering, but finally said:
"If somebody had a crime that the president had committed, that would be a different story... unless you have the goods that this president committed these crimes".
The sound that was heard after she made the above statement was that of people's heads exploding from the sheer absurdity of those words.
Fantastic news! This and Ted Steven's felony charges in the same week. Wonderful!
Lamar Smith, ranking member, referred to the vote as "..a witch hunt."
We now have two sets of law. One that Republicans follow and one for the rest of us.
Biggus Diggus @ 20:
Precisely, then all hell will continue to not break loose.
Same old, same old...Rove will get the last laugh.
I have no faith. Either Pelosi does not allow the vote, or if she does, enough votes will spontaneously go the other way, allowing Rove to skate. I concur with the general sentiment here that Pelosi is a coward AND a criminal.
Sure no doubt Pelosi will approve going after the master criminals in DC and lead the charge.
Well, of course she'd allow a final vote, if anyone knew of a crime he'd committed.
Here's my two favorite bits from the article at yahoo.com:
Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, had urged the panel in a Tuesday letter not to cite his client, calling it a "gratuitously punitive" action that would serve no purpose because the question of executive privilege is already pending in two other cases in federal court.
Republicans on the committee, who unanimously opposed the measure, accused Democrats of staging political theater.
"Instead of conducting witch hunts, we should consider bipartisan legislation to reduce the price of gas, reduce crime and secure the borders," said Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, the top Republican on the panel.
So, basically Rove's attorney is citing that since other white house staff are already giving the finger to their contempt of court citations they can't possible try Rove with the same thing. I swear, white house citations for contempt are becoming so common place now no one ever notices. And then you have the Republicans calling it a witch hunt and repeating their scary mantra about gas prices, crime and border security (all things they have let run into the ground during their six year rule of congress). A better example of a real witch hunt is putting 3/4 of the FBI on a hunt for semen on monica lewinsky's dress.
As far as gas prices go, they've been going down the past week, despite oil prices increasing (hrmmmm), so they may as well can that 'let's drill in america' crap as just cutting back no gas has lowered prices considerably.
For the bush administration's upset tummy, Nancy is exactly what the doctor ordered.
When the pain is all gone, she follows up with a kiss on the cheek.
Pelosi accepts his vacation defense.
Now that that matter is over,....
Unfortunately, our democrats couldn't catch a felon if he walked in front of them waving a flag.
Keith H. @ 30:
A kiss from that would upset my tummy.
It's up to you, Nancy. Your legacy depends upon your answer. Block a vote and you will be forever remembered as a Bush enabler.
Party line vote ...
To these Congresspersons, as subpoena is insufficient reason for action.
Republicans
Hon. Smith - Ranking Member - (R) Texas, 21st
Hon. Sensenbrenner Jr. - (R) Wisconsin, 5th
Hon. Coble - (R) North Carolina, 6th
Hon. Gallegly - (R) California, 24th
Hon. Goodlatte - (R) Virginia, 6th
Hon. Chabot - (R) Ohio, 1st
Hon. Lungren - (R) California, 3rd
Hon. Cannon - (R) Utah, 3rd
Hon. Keller - (R) Florida, 8th
Hon. Issa - (R) California, 49th
Hon. Pence - (R) Indiana, 6th
Hon. Forbes - (R) Virginia, 4th
Hon. King - (R) Iowa, 5th
Hon. Feeney - (R) Florida, 24th
Hon. Franks - (R) Arizona, 2nd
Hon. Gohmert - (R) Texas, 1st
Hon. Jordan -(R) Ohio, 4th
ON PARTY LINES??????? even the republicans should vote the LAW
I smell political gamesmanship. Recommending a contempt citation is really a smart move and it provides the Democrats with an interesting weapon against McCain. The only question is whether Nancy has the will to use it. It is potentially dangerous, but there are some good paybacks.
One option is:
1. The House brings forward a general motion of contempt. This is followed by suggestions from Obama that the law must be followed, etc. If it is framed correctly the issue becomes about breaking the law and not politics. This option puts the ball into McCain's court where he has to either come out against this "persecution" of Rove or not say anything. He will be slammed in either case as someone who supports the Bush Gang's illegal actions or as someone unwilling to criticize Bush. If he does not come out against this he will be criticized by the Republican base. Either way he loses. Obama can either weakly support this contempt charge or just keep quiet. There is no political downside for Obama but huge downsides (no matter which way he jumps) for McCain.
2. Nancy caves and just figures that Obama will win anyway and the Democrats should not rock the boat.
The problem with option 2 is that going after Rove is fairly safe. He is not someone widely liked outside the political wonks. He is not an elected official and most people only know his name. Going after Bush would stir up the Republicans, but this is not likely when going after Rove. The upside to having Nancy show some backbone is that it would help the House and Senate races by making the Republican candidates try and argue that the rule of law should not be followed in this case. The Republicans will try to frame this as a political charge, but if the Democrats do it right the dialog can be shifted to Congress having specific legal powers.
No real downside to the Democrats but some real problems for McCain and the other Republican candidates. It should come up for a general vote.
I thought she all ready said she would not allow a vote?
theWalrus @ 23:
From the party that would happily drag us back to the "good ol' days" of witch-burning...
(A gross insult to the witches I know, to have that term thrown around so lightly by the sociopathic Reichwing.)
Stop voting already. Send the Sgt. at Arms. Let Rove run to court for help, not the other way around.
When justice is left to the judgement of Nancy Pelosi, it feels like having to ask grandma if it's okay to have a keg party.
Conservativeslayer @ 5:
The point has always been to force the hand of these lawless, corrupt Republicans in order to expose them publicly for what they are. Nobody here thinks there will be convictions, because we all know BushCo has the legal system rigged. Let us highlight the rigging.
Nancy is our last hope.....no wonder Karl is smiling. Keep your record as speaker perfect Nancy...by not doing jack shit.
Will this be the final straw?
When nothing comes of this, will Americans finally say enough is enough? Will they finally chase the criminals out of Washington?
Oh, I wait on the edge of my seat...
Sluggo: For maximum political effect, you'd want to force Bush to pardon Rove somewhere in the vicinity of October. As long as we're being cynical...
michaeledward @ 34:
I see a typo here. The "Hon." is the abbreviation of "Honorable."
That should be changed to "Cor." The abbreviation of "Corrupt."
Doubtful that Historians will conclude that Iran had much to do with the destruction of America .
She won't. He'll walk.
I like what Mae West said to the judge, when she was being tried in New York for writing and starring in a play called Sex.
"He asked her, "Young lady, are you trying to show contempt of court?"
Mae answered, "No,your honor, I'm trying to hide it.
cubiclegrrl @ 38:
You know what makes a witch burn?
Not returning our broom.
She won't allow a vote because every dirty pie Bush & Co.'s hands have been in, hers have too. Thats why she, and other Dem. leaders in the legislature, have been the only real road block to actual justice for the crimes committed by this "presidency".
theWalrus @ 23:
Any attempt to hold a Republicker accountable for crimes committed is automatically a "witch hunt". I'm surprised they don't teach that in civics class. Oh, I forgot, they don't teach civics in U.S. High schools any more.
curtilingus @ 31:
What if his flag is at half-mast?
feh.
Big fucking deal.
What happens when he fucking ignores this? Another stern fucking letter?
We must remember that bringing him to court and finding him guilty of anything before bush leaves office is a complete waste of time as he will only be pardoned..so we mustn't move to fast in regards to this concern...any sentence of guilty must happen after Jan 20th or it's useless...
If she is tempted to have an actual vote, I'm sure one of Karl's minions will be quick to remind her of her involvement in approving illegal war, torture, kidnapping Americans, illegal spying, faulty intelligence, lying to the American people or her and her husbands other unknown illegal actions. I would guess there are plenty of tapes on record to back up any threats.
She has been privy to much of the illegal actions of Karl and his Krew and said or did nothing. She belongs in jail with those she protects.
I wish a reporter would ask her if she thinks her telephone and e-mail conversations are private and if so, why she believes that.
Between Nancy "Off The Table" Pelosi and Michael "See No Crime" Mukasey, Rove will skate so far and fast he should be on the team for the Winter Olympics.
As Barbara Boxer told Jimmy "God Will Fix The Planet We Durn Broke" Inhofe, elections have consequences, and Pelosi is up for her next term.
Time to send her home with a case of Turtle Wax, some Rice-a-Roni "The San Francisco Treat," and a lifetime supply of Preparation H.
I doubt anything will come of this. I desperately hope for an outcome where Rove gets a face full of justice, but I'm not holding my breath. For some reason no one with proper authority appears to have the stones to put this guy's feet to the fire. Rove will probably weasel his way out of the situation with - at worst - a slap on the wrist. Grrrrrr.....arg.
I want to see that miserable traitor in IRONS!
Shit, W will issue pardons of all these cocksuckers before he leaves office anyway.
sly @ 3:
*yawns* meeee too.
I'm gonna be so happy if some kind of meaningful ACTION is actually taken to hold this scumbag accountable for his countless crimes against our Constitution!
But I sure as hell ain't holdin' my breath, not with this complicit Congress.
Pelosi will do nothing as she will most likely get another big contract for her husbands business as a pay off. Pelosi got the top job as Speaker and sold out with a pay off. Republicans know they can give billion dollar contracts to female Law Makers husbands as the line of pay offs. Look Feinstein's husband was given a big contract if Feinstein voted for the new Attorney General to get in office. It worked Feinstein's got paid for her cooperation. Remember Americans show Bush/Cheney commit crimes worse then Richard Nixon yet Pelosi said there would be no impeachment. Now that allowed the White House to stay the course of stealing and criminal acts. Karl Rove will laugh at this as he knows they have powerful Democrats in their back pocket and Americans will do nothing.
First Ted, now Karl? Did Christmas come early this year, and nobody told me?
Rove will still have his middle finger out!
The vote makes my day but I'm not holding my breath if it comes down to Pelosi. She'll probably compromise by sending him a sternly-worded memo.
Honest to God...if Nancy Pelosi blocks a vote on this, fuck the Democrats! I will register as an independent and NEVER vote for another Democrat again!
Doesn't mean I have to vote Republican, but rather only for independent candidates or none at all! Even the possibility that Pelosi could block this has me seeing red!
harley @ 37:
Then we should inundate her office with demands that she follow the rule of law. Plus, that she, personally, will be judged by History and by the hundreds of books that will be written about this sorry time in our history. If he is "innocent" let him explain why he thinks he is immune from what would put the rest of us in jail! He always has a lot to say, so give him a platform---under oath.
Turk Meister @ 9:
AMEN BROTHER TURK !!
For the most part the "wal-mart" republicans down at the bottom are decent people who are uninformed, or in the worst cases stupid. The republicans in washington and at the top of the economic ladder are hypocritical corrupt evil assholes. Right and Wrong are irrelevant, its all partisanship and profit.
I hate to say it but the name Nancy Pelosi gives a terrible smell to woman everywhere. DON'T LUMP US IN WITH HER.
The U.S. Constitution spells out the method for electing the president and includes no role for the Supreme Court.
My plan this November is to vote against the incumbent. My congressman is a democrat, but he sucks, he voted for fisa. So I shall vote for his republican opponent this year.
Pelosi has more important matters. Like promoting her own book on The Daily Show.
I doubt Nancy will allow it. I think her approach is clear at this point.
Rove is untouchable, Pelosi will turn a blind eye.
sluggo @ 36:
Why does everything have to be a big plan? Why not just get to Rove and prosecute him because he broke the law?
My guess is no. It just wouldn't be nice, and Nancy's bought and paid for anyway.
What would Dark Knight Batman do with Rove?
Is it time to move to Canada yet? Seriously, people what good is it having a democratic majority in congress if they won't do anything with it.
Can I please beg of the people here who might actually live and vote in Pelosi's district to vote for Cindy Shehan. If we are unable to see the differance this would make, then I guess we deserve the government we have.
i think that this is the one chance that the repubs in the house have to unhitch themselves from bush and rove. if they don't they too will go down with the ship
What the hell is going on in my country?
If anyone dares to point out that Bush was deceptive in the case for war, they marginalized as being "shrill" or "radical".
"Woah, simmer down there, hothead. Just because none of the hysterical reasons for war turned out to be even sort of true and we're now in a costly quagmire that's cost us blood, treasure and our reputation while bringing untold misery to a corner of the world, that's no reason to do something rash like ask for accountability."
And I seem to remember we used to have checks and balances between the branches of government and something called a two party system, where one party is supposed to act as the loyal opposition.
jeff snyder @ 78:
I think you're right! Unlike this miserable, do-nothing bitch Pelosi, Cindy Sheehan would be the GOP's (and many ineffectual Dem's) worst nightmare!
Great picture, but what are the bars doing "behind" him?
Ford pardoned Nixon for crimes even before he was accused of anything, so Bush will probably do this too.
Pelosi ranks second in the line of presidential succession, following Vice President Dick Cheney. She is therefore the highest ranking woman in United States government history.
So don't expect much. Other then selective reporting and slanting of the "news" by the corporate-owned US media which is no different than a cabal of mullahs bent on controlling the behavior and opinion of the populace.
"Waterboarding is not torture".
Let's test that theory!
My response and I see many others who have also made the same decision is to VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBANTS!!! If the king allows a vote, that is, unless bloody Israel bombs Iran and starts WWIII for the 'good' (gag) of all, before there can be a (s)election.
jeff snyder @ 78:
Problem is, Bush's little fan-boy Harper is still parking his smarmy @$$ in the Prime Minister's chair. Dion's made noises about a fall election, though, so the Tories' welcome looks a bit threadbare. Good shuttance to the racist, homophobic wannabe thugs, if that's the case. Let 'em crawl back into minority status and figure out that Canadians see what's going on south of the border and (in the main) don't want to be that country.
Noble Savage @ 80:
what you are describing is but a theory. there is no two-party system. period.
Don't matter. How many days left till the pardons start?
Bismarck @ 72:
Actually she now has more important matters like what to do about Cindy Sheehan breathing down her freakin' neck.
It was posted on Whatreallyhappened.com today that Sheehan has gotten all the signatures needed to qualify for the ballot as an Independent against Pelosi.
This is almost enough to make me pack up my stuff and head back to Cali to help Sheehan oust Pelosi right out of Congress.
If Pelosi does not allow a full vote she is just giving Sheehan all the more ammo needed to oust her come November.
We all need to help Cindy Sheehan TAKE PELOSI OFF THE TABLE on Election Day!!!
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14 House Judiciary Committee members feel it is legal to refuse a subpoena and escape away on vacation.
The law requires that at the least, the subpoenaed show and assert said privileged. Why do THEY(sic) hate us for our Rule of Law?
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L.A. Confidential @ 84:
you stole that second paragraph. ]
but it is accurate enough.
This is great news. May kkkarl get punished to the fullest extent of the law.
I'll bet T. Blossom is really, really worried.
Truth B Told @ 92:
I post clues.
I just called my rep, Tom Feeney's Washington for office for an explanation of his vote. I was very friendly and asked the following.
As a strong "Rule of Law" Republican, how could Mr. Feeney vote against contempt for someone who refuses to appear for a lawful subpoena? If his reason was ExPriv then shouldn't Mr. Rove have to come before the committee with documentation and make his claim?
I almost gagged on the "strong rule of law republican" part when describing one of the most corrupt members of congress ever, but I got through it. The aide was very polite, but couldn't answer my question. He took my name, address and e-mail and promised a prompt response. I expect some for of law enforcement at my door shortly.
Karl Rove has the arrogance to defy the oversight bodies and then has the arrogance to continue working at Fox News where he has the arrogance to float the predictable charge of "arrogance" at Obama - because they can't beat him without cheap shots - and THE LAST ONE is all the news reported?
We get the government we deserve.
I share a lot of the cynicism, or rather perhaps skepticism, that no matter how many smoking guns we keep uncovering in this current White House, they'll keep saying "what gun?" long enough to pardon themselves out of the room. All the while smearing the good people who believe in the rule of law and the checks and balances of power.
Now that my friends, is arrogance and elitism.
Did the Dems trip over the box Bush put their balls into in 2001?
Hey fellow Americans I just got off the phone with the speakers office and left a message about the DOJ holding contempt charges on Rove. If you want to call here is the number to the Speaker Mrs. Pelosi 202-225-0100. Please people call. Do you know that each person that calls represents about 2,000 or more people. The more that call the more she will realize we want him behind bars.
I've always said that if you don't vote, don't complain.
But it's becoming more and more clear that voting doesn't mean crap - our 'elected' representatives, by and large, take donations from corporations and serve THEM, not the people.
Pelosi will have to get the go-ahead from her Lord and Master Dick Cheney. We all know what the result will be. Congress gave up it's equality in power to the Executive Branch a long time ago. Congress merely serves to continue the illusion of democracy.
Canada may have it's problems with Harper in charge, but I am to poor to get to Denmark, so I will except Canada as a substitute. This move of course will only happen if the rethugs steal another election and we get President McSame.
Nancy excuse has always been that she doesn't have the support of the house. Any minute I am waiting for the "The dog ate my official request" excuse.
There are two questions, actually. The first is whether Pelosi will allow it to come to a vote. The second is whether such vote would be on (plain) contempt of congress or inherent contempt. The latter is the only way to make it really happen.
But the odds of the latter are near zero. Given that Bates hasn't decided yet on Miers and Bolten, there's a great excuse for either continuing to use plain contempt of congress or just waiting for Bates' decision. So if you dream of Rove in handcuffs, you have a long wait ahead of you.
WE ALL LOVE A LITTLE BUSH @ 35:
Whats so funny is we are trying to create a democracy in Iraq. What a joke
jeff snyder @ 102:
I have been thinkin along similar lines...but looking to Germany...as for being poor, you can always get passage on a freighter, and pay for your passage by working on the ship...that's how my dad emigrated here.
But lately I've been thinkin...I will stay. I can't leave my family behind.
Shadowgm Hussein @ 100:
It's not a campaign platform for any of these candidate except from John Edward. But It is my number one concern that we need to make lobbying with money illegal. A foreign diplomat revealed that the handlers of George Bush operate much like a lobbyist, in getting contribution for his Presidential Library of Fiction.
My selling point is that yes we'll raise taxes on the wealthy elite, but you will save so much money on eliminating need for expensive lobbyist, and just sit in line like the rest of us for changes in policy with your local representative.
Partisan hatred manifested through BDS has finally (election time) erupted. These people hate America as it was and seek only to"change" it into a Godless, socialist, part of one-world marxism (with them in control of course)
This is nothing but the usual Democrat answer to their failure to steal the whitehouse - you'll pay Bush!
This smells of the French revolution with the supeona taking the place of the Guillotine
What dirty trash passes for leadership these days.
Why aren't the Democrats moving to bring all the Bush crooks to justice as quickly as possible? Two reasons. First, they are taking advantage of this time to methodically gather comprehensive evidence and build their cases before they show all their cards, while also publicizing what the big and little fish in the Bush administration/Republican Party have done to further taint all things Bush and or Republican in order to win the presidency and increase their majorities in the House and Senate. Guess what? It's working! Second, by being patient they are increasing the pressure on the Bush administration/Republican Party officials and functionaries that are still clinging to the hope that McCain will be in the White House to shield and protect and or grant them pardons should they be charged and or convicted. I don't understand why so many seem to doubt that a future Attorney General would act on the requests of congress that the current Attorney General has refused to. I don't understand why so many would think that congress would allow the precedent of the Attorney General of the United State's ignoring their legal authority to exercise oversight of the Executive Branch of government to go unchallenged. It is my belief that the next Attorney General is going to grant the previously denied requests from congress and appoint Special Prosecutors who will impanel grand juries and issue grand jury subpoenas to Rove, Miers, Gonzales, Rumsfeld, Rice, Ashcroft and their underlings, and everyone who has either already testified and or refused to testify before congress. Congress can't allow the denial of the requests they've already made to stand because that would mean that every future AG and or President could challenge and defy their oversight authority based on those precedents. When Bush is gone, the wheels of justice will inevitably move forward without the impediments of Executive Privilege and Presidential pardons.
Ladies and Gentleman...
Guys and Gals ...
Liberals and ... well crazy people...
There is only one end to all of this:
http://www.cindyforcongress.org/
Cough-up $25, $50, $100. We got to go gorilla warfare here and make an example of Nancy Palosi.
angryspittle @ 53:
Actually they have the Sergeant in Arms go out and ARREST Rove and put him in the jail that's located at the capital building.
Somebody somewhere please challenge this woman's seat if she doesn't allow this vote. The fact the Rethuglicans went after Clinton over Lewinsky just adds salt to the wound that this woman lets the Bush regime get by with murder both literally and figuratively.
osage @ 11:
Pelosi's up for reelection?
jeff snyder @ 102:
Unfortunately, one of the "problems" of Harper's government is that they're jiggling the immigration laws so that the "first in, first out" should be pretty much a thing of the past. (No racial quotas here, wink-wink-nudge-nudge). And, of course it throws the system into flux (if not actual chaos) in the meantime. For the Tories, I wouldn't be surprised if that's a fringe benefit, though. Best of luck getting all your background paperwork together--that's been the real bitch for us--if you haven't already done so. Cheers.
Black_Knight @ 111:
sure they do, sure they do.
uh huh. right.
BREAKING: House Panel Votes To Hold Rove In Contempt Of Congress
"So..."
After all we had to endure from the GOP congress of the 90s and beyond, Pelosi owes us this one, but she's probably too busy shilling her book.
Black_Knight @ 111:
That requires inherent contempt, not (plain) contempt.
As to whether Pelosi is up for reelection ... she's in the House and it's an even-numbered year.
As soon as this story appeared on my computer, I called my Congressman, Albio Sires, to "pressure" Congress Nancy Pelosi to bring a contempt of Congress citation against Karl Rove. also called those members of the House from this area to try and persuade them also to support a contempt citation against Karl Rove. I am hoping that this contempt of Congress Citation will come to the floor of the House ASAP, without delay. I am also call on Democratic Members of the House to support Congressman Dennis Kucinch's Impeachment Resolution to go before the House Judiciary Committee with as many Democratic members of the House acting as co-sponsors. It is far too late to impeach this president and/or vice-president at this point in time. It is not too late to hold hearing, or try to hold hears in the criminal activity of both the President and Vice-President of the United states of America. It is my guess that both men will try to claim "executive privilege" and stone wall a subpoena issued by the House of Representatives. The Supreme Court ruled against Richard Nixon in 1072 on this matter, that impeachment trumps executive privilege.
Everbody, please call your member of the House of Representatives about this. The number of the Congressional Switchboard is 1-202-225-3121 and ask for your representative.
sly @ 3:
My sentiments exactly...........
Whooopty fuckin' dooooo!!!!!!!
Karl...watch your cornhole, bud.
Do nothing Pelosi will do exactly that. Stall until the August recess and then sweep it under the rug with the elections coming up. I'm a Dem and my party is filled with weenies that cowered on the war, the Patriot Act, the Military Commissions act, Habeous Corpus, FISA and the list goes on. The one glimmer of hope is that Obama said today that if elected his new Attorney General will review every executive order that Bush had ever written. Personally, I'm not holding my breath.
.....Strongly worded nastygram to follow... To be followed by vague threats of banishment to the comfy chair, to be followed by more of same... Rinse/repeat ad nauseum.................With a fullon pardon as the cherry on top of this cake for any crimes past/present or future handed down by the chimp sealed in the blood of a virgin baby as adminstered by Cheneys dripping bowie knife....
As Darth Vader likes to say... 'All tooo easy'...(Yawn)... So, what's the Vegas line on the over/under odds that this even amounts to spit??.... Ya say you want to see actual justice delievered for what fatboy might have done!!??? Ha! fa-getaboutit.....silly rabbit.. JD
ranch111 @ 121:
Come on! LOL! who do you think that reporter/male escort "interviewed" so many times at the WH??!?
I bet his cornhole is quite calloused!
Andrew @ 122:
That "glimmer" will disappear about five seconds after you learn what Sunstein has actually said.
Whaaa? @ 120:
My thoughts as well. Let's see some results then it will be "breaking news".
Vic @ 19:
Yep - even when they are convicted felons (Liddy, North, etc.) Korporate Amerika will give them a nice cushy spot to land. There is no justice left in this country. Maybe BushCo did us a favor by removing the last veil and revealing the corrpution in all it's glory. Like a drunk hitting bottom, maybe that is what it will take to change our country.
(Sorry about the mixed metaphors - in a hurry.)
JTMinIA @ 125:
Like I said. I'm not holding my breath.
What's next, a sternly worded letter to turd blossom's mommy?
Like I have said many times:
"You better show up or you'll make me say 'show up' again! You don't want to make me do that"
Time for another road trip, eh Karl? Cite him, but if they're smart, they'll hold off really moving until after Bush has pardoned his list of wealthy Republicans at the end of his term. Once there's a new occupant in the White House, then bust MC Rove nine ways to Sunday! Congress will get no cooperation from the Bush Department of (in)Justice.
And do you suppose we have become somewhat skeptical over the last year and a half about the Democrats having any spine? Maybe a little. I wonder why.
Truth B Told @ 92:
No he didn't. He's a Hillary supporter. He wouldn't do that. Hillary supporters like their candidate is above reproach.
pissed off patricia @ 2:
San Franciscans...PLEASE don't reward Pelosi with another term. Letting her seat slide from the democratic side will not affect our majority. Hell...it won't even affect policy, given the way she rolls over for Bush as it is. If we keep rewarding democrats who ignore their base then they are just going to keep doing it.
If Pelosi screws this one up she should be held in contempt her damn self.
JimboInSF @ 134:
Nancy must keep bumping into condi then.
This is one the best "Do nothing" congress, as I heard. am I right ?
as far the Dems and Their leadership goes... they are just Toothless Tigers at best !!!
sly @ 3:
lol exactly.
with language like "nobody should be above the law" and "its time for Mr. Rove to get serious about obeying the law" it's hard not to just throw one's arms up in apathy. How bout this: "nobody IS above the law" and "we will now recommend to the full house that Mr. Rove be held in inherent contempt of Congress, since the Attorney General has indicated that he will not honor his sworn oath of office and refer such contempt citations to a grand jury." Even their freaking language is subservient. They have no idea how to actually EXERCISE power.
"Cry HAVOC and let slip the sternly worded letters!"
The day Turdster's fat ass lands in jail is the day GWB is recognized as a genious, gasoline cost $.99 a gallon and Osama bin Laden accepts Jesus as his savior.
COULD WE PLEASE WAIT.... until the post-dubya-pardon period before accusing any of these asswipes?
i dont mind waiting......
Rove is scheduled to speak at the annual "Perspectives" convention here in Sacramento in September. It would be so sad if something like an indictment and/or arrest were to happen that would keep him from making the trip here. All the good Republicans at the convention might just cry.
The only thing Rove fears more than an 'important statement' from Judiciary is a 'sternly worded letter' from Conyers.
Sanchez, Conyers and Pelosi sicken me.
The ball is in Pelosi's court and she will likely game the system to insure that Rove skates. Pelosi is a traitor to the Constitution and the people and is deserving a traitors fate.
sly @ 3:
LOL. My thoughts exactly. As someone put it yesterday, it's all about protecting the Club.
PLEASE, Lets have XMAS early and have Rove(TURD BLOSSOM) in a Orange Jump SUIT and Legg Irons in Augest ( XMAS IN AUGEST) how wounderfull.
Sound and fury, signifying nothing.
All we'll see of this is yet another *STERNLY WORDED LETTER* and it'll fade away....
More's the pity that we have such a thoroughly lawless Executive Branch, that the ostensibly
non-partisan DOJ is partisan to the point they won't touch anybody the Prez says to let go...
Why does the phrase "criminal conspiracy to obstruct justice" come to mind? Is there any way to put Pelosi in legal jeopardy to force to her uphold the oath of office she took?
just got an email , HJC voted to hold rove in contemp .
I say, wait, if possible, until bush is out of office. Then, at least, there might be a better chance of criminals like this of not getting pardoned if convicted.
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