Obama has to hit back HARD now!!

The McSame file is loaded with these awkward moments. Hit him hard with them. Hit him hard with his economic moments. Hard hard and harder. "Its the economy stupid!!!" It won Clinton the election and it will win Obama the election if he plays it right.

He's lost his fucking mind. McGrampa, you are mentally UNFIT.

Where are the Democratic 527s?

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 8:

Where are the Democratic 527s?

Obama has asked them to stay out of the race. Was that a mistake? We shall see I guess.

Dementia. That, and to-the-bone racism. I think these will both be more and more evident as this campaign goes on.

this angle that provides distance and shadowed darkness just seems to add to the out of touch, inability to react and revealed his weakness in this issue. it also empowers the questionaire more so at least from me perspective. mccain seems lost in his own denial of his own past regarding the MLK issue.

Sputtering old fool.

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 8:

Where are the Democratic 527s?

after we give mccain the rope...527's will do the honors

mccain is just old. he can't remember two questions.

constituent @ 18:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 8:

Where are the Democratic 527s?

after we give mccain the rope...527's will do the honors

I use to think it may be agood idea to wait until September of October but people get their ides in their mind now and it hard to change those ideas. It has to start happening now.

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 17:

Rob (Formerly) In Toronto @ 10:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 8:

Where are the Democratic 527s?

Obama has asked them to stay out of the race. Was that a mistake? We shall see I guess.

Well it ain't working is it?

Too early to tell. I think that, a week or two after the GOP convention, if this same shit is still happening and Obama isn't hitting back directly then the 527s should take matters into their own hands and just go for it. Until then, I think that he has to be given a chance to set this own tone. He is the candidate and gets to make that choice.

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 25:

I hate to say it but maybe Obama should bite the bullet and have Hillary as his VP. It just might be the thing he needs to seal the deal. When he wins the election put Bill in a room and nil the door shut.

And that would help the racebaiting how?
It also seems to me that it would just give the wingnuts one more reason to get fired up and vote for McCain.

Rob (Formerly) In Toronto @ 26:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 25:

I hate to say it but maybe Obama should bite the bullet and have Hillary as his VP. It just might be the thing he needs to seal the deal. When he wins the election put Bill in a room and nil the door shut.

And that would help the racebaiting how?
It also seems to me that it would just give the wingnuts one more reason to get fired up and vote for McCain.

You wont change the 20%s but you would get a lot of people sitting on the fence in Ohio and Pennsylvania and Florida who love Hill but are worried about Obama.

I think Obama knows that as a black man the white majority will not tolerate his attacking McCain. The only worse thing he could do would be to be caught driving a car at night in a white midewest neighbolrhood.

There is plenty of time. The role of the VP is to play the attack dog. I think with the convention, the VP announcement and the chance to play up the ticket, there will be time for attacks.

I do think the campaign needs to be in control of their surrogates better. Kerry was awful w regards to Clark and McCain's experience.

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 27:

Robert59 @ 23:

You lost me. McCain is doing one or two things. She was hard for me to understand and I'm not 72 (spent a great deal of time on airplanes though and ground support equipment, but I wore hearing protection; guys his age didn't).
What he might also be doing is stalling for time as he didn't have a rehearsed answer to her legitimate questions.

Probably a mixture of both.

One thing McCain's ads have done is get me fired up to give money to Obama. When he played the Moses card, the antiChrist card, the founding fathers card, all McCain did was get me pissed off.

Keep it up John. Your tactics might fire up your base, but guess what? They'll also fire up the Democrats. We outnumber Republicans and if your smear campaign will get more of us to the polls, keep on sliming.

Its not you we are worried about. It is Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox who voted for Bush... twice. Those are the people you have to show that McAsshole is an asshole. We here, are the choir.

I do have to agree with you here. It is hard to figure out how to reach people that genuinely thought that Bush was a better choice than Gore and Kerry even given all the evidence to the contrary.
But then we have seen that a majority of Americans are also in favour of opening up offshore drilling more widely so evidence based reasoning doesn't seem to work really well.

Dunno, maybe you are right about the 527s. Load em up and fire away. The only thing that I worry about is if it really gets nasty and Obama turns into one of those centrists (i know he is a centrist anyway but bear with me) that likes to get ahead by tossing anyone to the left under the bus to try to look moderate. If that happens then I think that we can kiss goodbye any hope of meaningful change in this country for a long time.

Planet B @ 31:

Anyone else get the feeling that McCain's debate performances will make George W. Bush's look absolutely presidential in comparison?

Yet he won the election despite getting obliterated, by any reasonable measure, in the debates.

Unless McCain comes off as fundamentally unhinged and out of touch with reality it can be spun that he is just not as smooth as Obama and will be more evidence that McCain is an ordinary guy that can better understand the ordinary (read white) American voter as opposed to the Ivy League educated Obama.

It scares me that we can all predict the spin before it happens.

Nicky @ 35:

It would be nice to see the answer, not just the pause!

Funny, I thought the pause was the answer.

Rob (Formerly) In Toronto @ 32:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 27:

Robert59 @ 23:

You lost me. McCain is doing one or two things. She was hard for me to understand and I'm not 72 (spent a great deal of time on airplanes though and ground support equipment, but I wore hearing protection; guys his age didn't).
What he might also be doing is stalling for time as he didn't have a rehearsed answer to her legitimate questions.

Probably a mixture of both.

One thing McCain's ads have done is get me fired up to give money to Obama. When he played the Moses card, the antiChrist card, the founding fathers card, all McCain did was get me pissed off.

Keep it up John. Your tactics might fire up your base, but guess what? They'll also fire up the Democrats. We outnumber Republicans and if your smear campaign will get more of us to the polls, keep on sliming.

Its not you we are worried about. It is Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox who voted for Bush... twice. Those are the people you have to show that McAsshole is an asshole. We here, are the choir.

I do have to agree with you here. It is hard to figure out how to reach people that genuinely thought that Bush was a better choice than Gore and Kerry even given all the evidence to the contrary.
But then we have seen that a majority of Americans are also in favour of opening up offshore drilling more widely so evidence based reasoning doesn't seem to work really well.

Dunno, maybe you are right about the 527s. Load em up and fire away. The only thing that I worry about is if it really gets nasty and Obama turns into one of those centrists (i know he is a centrist anyway but bear with me) that likes to get ahead by tossing anyone to the left under the bus to try to look moderate. If that happens then I think that we can kiss goodbye any hope of meaningful change in this country for a long time.

Give them the off shore drilling issue. Sure we are for drilling. Lets start right now. Its what Joe and Betty want to hear. Obama has no choice but to say it. Why lose the election by not saying it? When the time actually comes just put it on hold. Just blow it off. It is the states issues anyway. 65% of the dumbshits want it. You have to play with them. It also can be said over and over that they oil companies hold 64,000,000 acres of oil leases that they are not drilling on. 75% of the people in America do not understand this. Why? Because they have not been told over and over and over and over!!!!! Fuck, if they would just understand this they would be as pissed off as I am right now.

I think any video add that Obama does attacking McCain, (and yes, Obama needs to attack McCain, now and hard and fast) show be all about awkward pauses, blank stares and asking to repeat the question.

"What does McCain think about the ecomony?" cut to McCain with a blank stare.
"What does McCain thing we should do about Iraq?" cut to McCain, long pause "Could you repeat the question?" *nervous from McCain*

On and on.

Lets go Obama, don't let what happen to Kerry happen to you. Lets go. Fight back. Lets go!

CaptainBitter@38: Not only that, but the same 70 to 75 percent who say they
favor offshore and/or ANWA drilling, do not know that it will take a MINIMUM of
5 years for such exploration and drilling to make its way into the pipe steam
and the estimated supply is enough for less than ONE year.

doggiebobo @ 42:

CaptainBitter@38: Not only that, but the same 70 to 75 percent who say they
favor offshore and/or ANWA drilling, do not know that it will take a MINIMUM of
5 years for such exploration and drilling to make its way into the pipe steam
and the estimated supply is enough for less than ONE year.

Not only that but it will only drop the price of gas by $.07... on a good day. But these dumb fucks don't get it. Just play along. Deal with it later.

Question from a member of the Whitehouse Press Corp in 2012 to President McCain :

Reporter : Mr. President, you said that if Syria continues to let fighters cross their border into Iran to kill Americans - they'll end up in the same boat as Iraq and Iran. Can you elaborate?

McCain: Sure.

Reporter : Also in 2008 you said quote 'President McCain will get bin Laden.' What's happening on that front?

McCain : Uhhh, ehhh, hmmmm,,,,,,huuu,,,,,,errr......hmmmm......what was......what was the first question again?

CaptainBitter@44: True & isn't that sooooo expected and typical though of most US citizens; "Me, me, me...take care of ME"..Conservation or changing one's way
of lifestyle is "foreign" to most Americans..."Just give me my gas so I can drive my
big ole Humvee to work alone. Drill, Drill and to hell with the enviroment."

Rob (Formerly) In Toronto @ 45:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 41:

At this point I don’t care if he is centrist. WE SIMPLY CANNOT HAVE MCSHI IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!! I know Obama is not going to do what I want him to do but McDumbass will absolutely ruin this country to the point of no return. I’m talking revolution here if is gets any worse and Joe and Betty have no idea how much lower it will go with this OLD MAN who knows nothing about anything

Personally I think that he is too dangerous to have walking down the street without a keeper but that is just me.

NO, it is not just you!!!!!!

Well ah er ah well a does connie rice count

Is anyone other than me concerned that McCain will resign for "medical reasons" sometime shortly after the election and we will end up with Mittens, or someone worse, as President in about mid-March of 2009?

Rob@54: Nope, NOT TO WORRY....McLame is NOT going to get elected.

how to totally F"up John THE BUSH REPUBLICAN McCain...

...........ask him a 2 part question

Kerry is a limp dick!

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 57:

Rob (Formerly) In Toronto @ 53:

So you are of the Jane Hamsher school ... Pivot and Attack!

It has a certain appeal to it. You just might be right.

Make these kind of comments on every blog you visit (I do). The Obama people must read them. The must listen. There are a lot of them lurking. Believe me. They have been doing a lot of things very well. Give them these ideas. As often as possible. Things being said here right now are very solid. Very valid. They are not off the cuff dumb shit rambling.

I think that the key is to get the attacks out there in such a way that if McCain complains about them he comes off as a WATB and the media starts to back away from his maverick warrior persona. Those of us on the left seem to get what a lying sack of dung he is but it isn't yet being communicated to the general public.
I have some hope that since he has managed to lose Joe Klein over at Time just maybe corporate media outlets are going to start coming around. Call him a canary in the coal mine I guess.

mcsame doesn't appear to know where he is let alone what he was just asked.

Go ahead America, vote in this absolutely pathetic, lying forgetful same old sack of shit as your Prez because you're "afraid" of Obama(whatever the fuck that means). The world will just keep laughing at our asses.

Obama needs to stay off the race issue even when McCain raises it and stay on message!

Obama leads McCain on all the issues in the national polls except one and that is taxes... a real bread and butter issue.

McCain has characterized him as "he raised taxes on those making $32,000 dollars a year, but I won't raise your taxes."

Yet if you look at Obama's tax plan, only the people making more than $250,000 a year will see a tax increase. Those making between $250K and $100K will see no tax increase and those making under $125K will see a tax cut!

But we see Obama letting McSame define him as a "tax raiser" and if Obama's campaign allows this to continue... we are in for another John Kerry moment!

Let's just take one of McCain's proposals and really look at it, "I want to build 100 new Nuclear power plants."

The average nuclear plant cost between $3 billion and $8.5 Billion dollars to build and the majority of those funds come from the Federal and State governments. Taking the average say of about 5 Billion per reactor since they almost always have serous time and costs over runs from their original projections... what is the total cost of these reactors?

McCain's proposed 100 nuclear power plants would cost at least $500,000,000,000 of tax payer dollars... where is this money supposed to come from? Oh a trillion here and a trillion there and soon you can get up to some real money eh?

Now this doesn't even begin to address nuclear waste disposal or the costs of decommissioning those plants after their 40 year life span... does that sound like a sound energy policy to anyone?

Think I make this stuff up? Read on...

The High Cost of Nuclear Power: Why Maryland Can’t Afford a New Reactor
http://www.uspirg.org/home/reports/report-archives/healthy-communities/h...

Nuclear reactors' cost: $17 billion
Progress Energy plans to file its estimate for two new reactors with Florida regulators today
http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/993686.html

COSTS OF NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS — WHAT WENT WRONG?
http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter9.html

Now this doesn't even begin to address the issue that a nuclear plant takes an average 5 to 10 years to completion so we wouldn't even see a single watt of power from during the next administration and the same is also true about "off-shore" drilling... ten years to bring in an oil field!

Large scale wind and solar projects on the other hand cost a fraction of that and can be on line producing in an average of 18 months. If you divert hundreds of billions of dollars from renewable energy sources for nuclear power plants... you don't solve our immediate problems!

McCain is controlling the debate... Obama needs to change that or we are indeed in for another John Kerry moment!

McCain can only repeat stock answers. Clearly he has not rehearsed answers to questions about his abysmal record on civil rights for all, not just wealthy white people. Now, with a campaign in full swing and the myriad of things to worry about (like "Iraq" instead of "Iran", for starters) trying to memorize an answer to this question is going to be hard on his old brain.

Chances are he will remain speechless to questions like these, but if it is an organized debate, he probably wont get tough questions to answer like this one. Instead they will be parsed down to some vague banality that the masses can consume and McSame can slither out of it.

odanny @ 70:

McCain can only repeat stock answers. Clearly he has not rehearsed answers to questions about his abysmal record on civil rights for all, not just wealthy white people. Now, with a campaign in full swing and the myriad of things to worry about (like "Iraq" instead of "Iran", for starters) trying to memorize an answer to this question is going to be hard on his old brain.

Chances are he will remain speechless to questions like these, but if it is an organized debate, he probably wont get tough questions to answer like this one. Instead they will be parsed down to some vague banality that the masses can consume and McSame can slither out of it.

During the debates I would like to see Rachel Maddow do the questions.

Americans willing to vote this guy into office should consider the fact that they'll be stuck with another world class embarassment for at least 4 years.This idiot is definitely Bush part 3.

This whole "race card" controversy was generated by a Jake Tapper post at ABC on Wednesday, July 30 at 10:45 p.m. Why Jake was posting that late that date is beyond me to explain, but he had never done it before in June or July except in conjunction with election returns. He made the charge in that post that Obama's comments were an accusation of racism and xenophobia against McCain's campaign. No other reporter covering the campaign reported it that way. The McCain people were ready to go to town the next morning. In his post, Tapper asked the Obama campaign if it were meant as a charge of racism against McCain. They said it was not. Tapper does not report asking the McCain campaign about it. Pretty curious circumstances.

It's a common Republican (most recently Bushie) political Q&A tactic to make someone repeat their question in order to stall the answer - Rumsfeld was the king of this.

And at the same time explain that the taxes he has to raise is because the Republicans have run up the debt higher than your sister-in-law's credit card maximum. they have to understand that this debt has to be paid somehow.

It does seem that McCain's most common reply to any question is: What was the question? Is this some new variant of Tourette's Syndrome?

Get the man a prescription for Aricept or Razadyne for crap sakes, he's got alzheimers.

But The Moron Factor will probably give this guy the keys and Button the the nuclear arsenal.

They should be all over this shit already.

☻..Bangkok Bob..☻♫♪ Sawatdee @ 83:

Get the man a prescription for Aricept or Razadyne for crap sakes, he's got alzheimers.

But The Moron Factor will probably give this guy the keys and Button the the nuclear arsenal.

They should be all over this shit already.

Do you mean play the senile card. Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant.

odanny @ 71:

Rasputin @ 68:

Obama needs to stay off the race issue even when McCain raises it and stay on message!

Obama leads McCain on all the issues in the national polls except one and that is taxes... a real bread and butter issue.

Actually, I heard he trailed on who you would want as CiC, according to a report on NPR last week.

Mind boggling, yes.

I was quoting a CNN poll report that they just aired a couple of minutes ago where Obama had the lead on the war, the economy, the environment, except taxes where McCain has a slight lead.

Well it seems that the damn polls are all over the place, but Obama does show he's trending up and over McCain slightly this weekend.

Real clear politics gives Obama a +2.7 lead but uses the only poll that shows McCain leading by +4 points, the USA Today/Gallup Poll. Personally I tend to dismiss that one poll for faulty methodology because it is so different from all of the other polls taken including the latest Gallup poll taken 7/31 that shows Obama up +1.

Some thing was awfully wrong with that poll of Gallup's that McCain would drop five points in the 6 days from 7/25 to 7/31. McCain would have had to punch Cindy in the face live on TV to get a drop like that.

Even if you take that one poll out as an anomaly, Obama only has a +3.7 lead over McCain and that is pitiful.

The only good news is that the latest polls, which aren't including in the Real Clear Politics poll average show Obama up +7 so he's trending up while McCain is flat lining.

CNN poll: Obama up 7, McCain criticisms aren't sticking

A new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll today shows Democrat Barack Obama leading Republican John McCain 51%-44% among registered voters. CNN says that's similar to Obama's 5-percentage-point lead last month and shows his high-profile trip overseas did not shake up the race.

CNN says McCain retains an an edge on every foreign policy issue asked about in the poll.The good news for Obama, it says, is that "few of the McCain campaign's criticisms of the trip have stuck — especially charges Obama was presumptuously acting as if he had already won the election, and claims he nixed a visit with injured troops because members of the media could not accompany him. Instead, more than two-thirds of voters surveyed said the trip was appropriate for a presidential candidate, and 72% think Obama cares about veterans and the troops currently in Iraq."

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2008/07/cnn-poll-obama.html

Poll: Despite Obama Trip, McCain Still Holds Edge On Foreign Policy
By Eric Kleefeld - July 30, 2008, 6:03PM

A new CNN poll just released today has the first numbers taken entirely since Obama's overseas trip on key national-security readiness questions -- and the survey finds that McCain still holds an advantage in these areas.

CNN's article on the poll says that McCain polled better than Obama on all the foreign policy and national security questions: Who's trusted more to handle terrorism, Afghanistan, Iraq, the Middle East, and Iran. No internals are available yet, so we can't be sure that Obama didn't cut into McCain's lead on these questions -- but the McCain sweep seems pretty telling.

On the other hand, the poll also suggests that McCain's days-long effort to paint Obama as unpatriotic and indifferent to the troops has flopped. Two thirds of respondents said the trip was appropriate for a presidential candidate, and 72% say Obama cares about veterans and the troops in Iraq.

And Obama is ahead in the horse race: Obama 51%, McCain 44%, beyond the ±3% margin of error. So even if McCain is viewed as superior on foreign policy issues, it's not enough -- and Obama is getting a passing grade.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/07/poll_despite_oba...

Tuesday, July 29, 2008
CAMPAIGN NEWS
New Poll Shows McCain Leading Among Likely Voters

A new USA Today /Gallup national poll shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain 47%-44% among registered voters. However, when the sample is reduced to only those likely to vote, McCain jumps to a 49%-45% lead. The survey, taken July 25-28, "showed a surge since last month in likely Republican voters and suggested Obama's trip may have helped energize voters who favor McCain." The poll surveyed 900 registered voters and 791 likely voters.

Other Polls Show Obama Up The Gallup daily presidential tracking poll shows Sen. Barack Obama leading Sen. John McCain 48%-40%, down from a 49%-40% lead yesterday. The survey polled 2,674 registered voters from July 25-27. The Rasmussen Report automated daily presidential tracking poll for July 28 shows that while Obama opened a wider lead over the weekend, it closed again in yesterday's survey of 3,000 registered voters. Obama now leads McCain 45%-42%, and 48%-45% if leaners are included. A Democracy Corps (D) poll of 1,004 likely voters taken July 21-24 shows Obama leading McCain 50%-45% in a two-way race or 49%-43% if Bob Barr (L) and Ralph Nader are included.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080729.htm

Peter G @ 81:

It does seem that McCain's most common reply to any question is: What was the question? Is this some new variant of Tourette's Syndrome?

you should see how he reacted to the minister who asked him if it's true he called his wife a c*nt, or how he dodges the "wearechange" kids.

The Hiltons not amused http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/03/kathy-hilton-calls-mccain_n_116... McSame better tread lightly and not piss off part of his base, the super rich.

General_Rennenkampf @ 83:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 76:

General_Rennenkampf @ 73:

doggiebobo @ 42:

Anyone who really thinks that a rinky-dink part of Alaska can fuel a nation of 304 million people is either misled, lying, or stupid, or all of the above.

You know that and I know that but Joe Sixpack and Betty Winebox can't grasp it. So Obama plays along until he wins the election. He has to do what he has to do to win.

Yep, I think it would be better to drop oil altogether, but it would require an overhaul the wingnuts would never stand for. Which means that it will require it to be almost too late before anything is done for action that's necessary now is actually put into place.

I don't know where Captain Bitter@38 got his "minimum five year" figure for producing oil from Anwar because Bush's own Energy Information Administration gives it at least a 10 year time line...

Energy Information Administration Report

Analysis of Crude Oil Production in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge

Timing of First Production

At the present time, there has been no crude oil production in the ANWR coastal plain region. This analysis assumes that enactment of the legislation in 2008 would result in first production from the ANWR area in 10 years, i.e., 2018.

The primary constraints to a rapid development of ANWR oil resources are the limited weather “windows” for collecting seismic data and drilling wells (a 3-to-4 month winter window) and for ocean barging of heavy infrastructure equipment to the well site (a 2-to-3 month summer window).

The assumption that ANWR oil production would begin 10 years after legislation approves the Federal oil and natural gas leasing in the 1002 Area is based on the following 8-to-12 year timeline:

* 2 to 3 years to obtain leases, including the development of a U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) leasing program, which includes approval of an Environmental Impact Statement, the collection and analysis of seismic data, and the auction and award of leases.
* 2 to 3 years to drill a single exploratory well. Exploratory wells are slower to drill because geophysical data are collected during drilling, e.g., rock cores and well logs. Typically, Alaska North Slope exploration wells take two full winter seasons to reach the desired depth.
* 1 to 2 years to develop a production development plan and obtain BLM approval for that plan, if a commercial oil reservoir is discovered. Considerably more time could be required if the discovered oil reservoir is very deep, is filled with heavy oil, or is highly faulted. The petroleum company might have to collect more seismic data or drill delineation wells to confirm that the deposit is commercial.
* 3 to 4 years to construct the feeder pipelines; to fabricate oil separation and treatment plants, and transport them up from the lower-48 States to the North Slope by ocean barge; construct drilling pads; drill to depth; and complete the wells.

The 10-year timeline for developing ANWR petroleum resources assumes that there is no protracted legal battle in approving the BLM’s draft Environmental Impact Statement, the BLM’s approval to collect seismic data, or the BLM’s approval of a specific lease-development proposal.

Snip!

The report does go on to say:

A similar timing issue arises with respect to the application of advanced techniques to raise ultimate recovery factors in fields of various sizes. With all new fields already assumed to be developed in an efficient manner if ANWR resources are opened to leasing and development, investments in such techniques would predominantly occur well after fields are first developed. While prices can influence decisions regarding the application of advanced techniques, the timing of ANWR development is such that the major impact on production from large fields in ANWR is not likely to be felt before 2030. However, a more significant impact could be realized in later years.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/servicerpt/anwr/methodology.html

Now as to size of these deposits... remember that the US is only estimated to hold 2% to 3% of the world's oil reserves so we are not talking about giant fields of oil. That is ridiculously small number so we are not talking vast amounts of oil here and as the report says it won't have a significant impact until after 2030, but fails to project a duration for those impacts.

Meanwhile... you've got John McSame running around on the cable channels saying that isn't true and he's heard experts who say it can be producing in a couple of years. No one called him on that BS in the MSM or the Obama campaign... why the hell not???

I say someone ought to buy that young lady a bunch of roses, a box of chocolate and a nice bottle of wine. Then take her out to a nice dinner. She just saved Obama's ass.
Yeah, I agree with some of you guys up there. Who ever is advising Obama, needs to find a new job.
Obama needs to go on the attack, not just defend himself. The nation is looking for a leader. Not another poser.
What happened to the Obama from the primaries?
See Ya.
I'm outta here
GaNite and Be Well.

Wow, McCain seems a lot like Reagan in that clip.....

Vote for FISA. Yes! Vote For Oil Drilling Off The Coast Of Los Angeles. Yes!

Let John McCain Smear You. Yes!

The Pelosi/Kerry strategy.

Now adopted by the losing Presidential Candidate Barack Obama.

Obama will flip flop on his "take the high road" strategy two weeks before the Nov general election.

He's so late to the game.

And so gonna lose.

my sister forwarded an email to me today all about how obama will raise EVERYone's taxes. It starts out very sincere and proceeds to lie, lie, lie about the two candidate's tax plans.

I went to snopes.com and found the EXACT email (complete with sincere intro) and it's thorough de-bunking. I emailed the link back to her and followed with another message suggesting strongly that she 'reply all' to the list that she was on when it was sent to her, telling them that it is BULLs*%t. Her response was along the lines of 'well, don't be such an asshole about it'.

Infuriating! A hateful, lie-filled email about my candidate for president is being spread around and it gets me pissed! She might have the story straight now, but most of the other folks on that list will BELIEVE IT.

I wondered: if I sent an email around talking about 5-Crash McCain's Propaganda for the Vietnamese these people would be horrified and would call for my head. And it's not even a lie!

.

Well Atleast McCain can show a authentic Birth certificate... and you wanna talk about race??
Hmmm... What was that church Obama was involved in for 20 years .. and that sorry excuse for a preacher,was spewing racist comments on everyone from Italian americans,to jew's !

Eat that and shut the fuck up .

Jon @ 104, wait maybe you meant the preacher who called all the Catholics in the world followers of the great whore? Now who was that guy...... oh yeah McCains good friend Hagee.

ps: most of Hitlers death camp victims were jews and most Italian Americans are Catholic. So who's "spewing racist comments on everyone from Italian americans,to jews" again now? And by the way America is spelt with a capital A for those of us who care.

Rob (Formerly) In Toronto @ 26:

Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 25:

I hate to say it but maybe Obama should bite the bullet and have Hillary as his VP. It just might be the thing he needs to seal the deal. When he wins the election put Bill in a room and nil the door shut.

And that would help the racebaiting how?
It also seems to me that it would just give the wingnuts one more reason to get fired up and vote for McCain.

Funny thing Rob, that is the same thing I heard the Republicans say. Some day I must thank them for the heads up. It is not often the Republicans will tell what will help them win.

Joseph

The Right-Wing Media Has A Lot Of Work To Do

When does John McCain "shine?" So far, he looks like a total baboon under the best light. This man does not have the mental capacity to be president of the boy scouts. I mean he is missing much of what made him a fighter pilot. Only aging can do this. Yes, he's too old.

Yet, the right-wing media has chosen him to be our president. At every opportunity, they come out with their new Gallup poll to show how close McCain is to Barack Obama. Gallup has had to work so hard they stop showing their history on the RealClear Politics site. Gallup and Rasmussen tracking polls give the Republican instant daily control over the polling averages. Gallup has had to change so much someone thought it would be a good idea to remove the tracking poll history. It could come back to hunt them.

I would not worry about polling manipulation if I were working for McSame McCain; I would be worried about what McCain himself might to to end the chances of him becoming president. He missing much, and it is easy to pickup on.

Joseph

You know there is yes, a question of what has this fool done to help the lives of black Americans, yet even more important is what the hell has he done to help the lives of All the citizens in this country.

John McCain has been in lock step with the most vile and anti American legislation this country could ever tollerate and he now wants to continue with the same old tired distructive crap, only in a higher position of authority, and we need to tell him in no uncertain terms, where the hell to get off at.

Go to his voting record to find the answer. He claims to have been in the Senate so much longer then Senator Obama, which means he has a whole lot of trash that needs to be reviewed, and it is trash.

The first question was a great softball to hit out of the park for McKnucklehead-How is it that Obama is playing the race card?-There was utter terror in his face after the second question.It's bluntness and simplicity completley froze the man.He couldn't give an answer because he doesn't have one.I think it blew his mind so much that he forgot both questions eventually.He needs to be pounced upon immediately.I don't even think Faux News can explain this away.But alas I do not hold my breath for the msm to do it's job.They'll probably just bury it.

A lot of angst here. The phony polling appears to be working. So the race is close, it is supposed to look that way.
How can Obama be beating McCain 97% to 3% with blacks and 55%/40% with young voters while nationally being up only 4% or 5%? It is the question the MSM has been forcing down our throats without providing a meaningful answer.
The correct answer is, of course, that they are not polling blacks and young voters and the numbers they are giving us represent Obama over McCain with white voters.
Maybe the trouble is not with Obama. I know we as progressives are smarter then this. It is we who can win this election, it is OURS to lose if WE continue to play into the bash Obama routine the press and even some of our own high profile talkers are doing. WE, the collective 'we', the big kahuna 'we', are his base. Base means support.
I know, my natural state is one of questioning authority also, but now is not the time. Obama needs support not advice, we can advise him after he takes office (and boy will we!). But lets get him their first.

StCyrlyMe2 @ 112:

You know there is yes, a question of what has this fool done to help the lives of black Americans, yet even more important is what the hell has he done to help the lives of All the citizens in this country.

John McCain has been in lock step with the most vile and anti American legislation this country could ever tollerate and he now wants to continue with the same old tired distructive crap, only in a higher position of authority, and we need to tell him in no uncertain terms, where the hell to get off at.

Go to his voting record to find the answer. He claims to have been in the Senate so much longer then Senator Obama, which means he has a whole lot of trash that needs to be reviewed, and it is trash.

Good points. I suggest looking at http://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm to review McSame's voting record and the records of others too.

as usual, democrats are trying to do too many things at once. repetition and rhymes are the keys.

Here's your penance:
chanting "John McCain, More of the Same" at a public event (remember "flip-flop" at the pug convention?). 50,000 times at least.
putting together a simple list of obvious McCain flubs and playing it on a TV commercial at least 1000 times. or maybe 50,000, i don't know what a typical ad buy is.

Just humiliate this fucking fraud. He deserves NO RESPECT of any kind any more. NONE. He's a pandering JOKE. Remember that or lose again.

but repeat the message and get all the surrogates on all the lefty blogs focusing on a single issue for a few days. herding cats, yes, but it has to be done. republicans flock to leadership. democrats embrace individualism and independence. democrats are better for the country, but currently, the republican approach is more effective than the Democrats' approach in the shitty game of winning elections.

did you ever see the Simpsons episode with the animatrons?

"You're the birthday, you're the birthday, you're the birthday Boy or Girl!"

a McCain animatron attack ad might work, or it could backfire. i can never tell what the bottom-feeding dopes in middle America will go for.

Putting McCain into any office is scary. The question was asked and I understood what she was talking about, but McCain, bless his little pointed head, acted like the dunce he is.
I swear - anybody that votes for him is dumb.

That awkward silence of McCain's is the picture of panic. Either he's reaching for an answer, or all the bile in his maverick, straight talk express gut just filled his lying mouth.

I think it honest-to-God pains this man, who consistently voted against the MLK holiday, to have to campaign against what he considers to be an "uppity" black man. What a small-minded little man McCain has become.