'bout damn time.

So where did that video go? Pelosi better come out swinging about something because she is going to face a challenge herself. Put impeachment back on the table where it belongs. Remember Nancy some of us worked are asses off to get you folks in control and to hold the Bush administration thugs (Lieberman is one of the thugs) ACCOUNTABLE. We are watching and waiting

So long Joe LIEberman.

Don't let the door hit ya' where Yaweh split ya'!

Nancy is getting her head handed to her by her constituents back home.

The democratic voters are in open revolt with the leadership. ALL the Democratic Senators are getting the same stuff back home. HEALTHCARE, UNEMPLOYMENT, FUEL and not putting a stop to this Administration's BULLSHIT.

It took exactly 1 hour and 10 minutes for that video to disappear - so who monitors information at you tube?

Vid is no longer available.

Chairmanships in PERIL?!?!

Benedict Lieberman is already on the McCain's short list for VP.

What the hell does he have to do to be removed from the Chairmanship...take a dump on Nancy's desk?

Exactly the kind of empty rhetoric I would expect from Nancy Peolosi - the "Democrat" who keeps Impeachment off the table, and who refuses to even READ the articles of Impeachment that have been entered.

What she says may or may not be true. The critical aspect of this statement is that she has no authority or responsibility in the matter, and is simply blowing smoke in an effort to placate the masses who are fed up with her spineless "leadership".

pissed off patricia @ 8:

Good for her. I don't know how much good what she said will do but at least she called him out on what he said.

I heard a woman on Fox say that while McCain was a POW the other POWs called him "Hell's Angel" because he would defy the guards and hold church services for the other prisoners. I have never heard that story before.

POP
That story is on the front page of this morning's McCain Chicago Tribune. I laughed out loud when I saw it. What's next? He sent Jonas Salk the original recipe for the polio vaccine? He invented Yahtzee? Or maybe he's the thirteenth apostle?

Kathleen @ 3:

So where did that video go? Pelosi better come out swinging about something because she is going to face a challenge herself. Put impeachment back on the table where it belongs. Remember Nancy some of us worked are asses off to get you folks in control and to hold the Bush administration thugs (Lieberman is one of the thugs) ACCOUNTABLE. We are watching and waiting

Amen to that!

Why is she so concerned about maintaining her majority when they aren't doing anything with it anyway. She can bend over for Bush just as easily from a minority position, and at least then she would have an excuse for doing it.

Is she gonna tell him to leave the table?

nancy can take her sorry ass with sad sack joe.

she's a bigger disgrace than joe imho.

Yellow Elephant Safari @ 16:

pissed off patricia @ 8:

Good for her. I don't know how much good what she said will do but at least she called him out on what he said.

I heard a woman on Fox say that while McCain was a POW the other POWs called him "Hell's Angel" because he would defy the guards and hold church services for the other prisoners. I have never heard that story before.

POP
That story is on the front page of this morning's McCain Chicago Tribune. I laughed out loud when I saw it. What's next? He sent Jonas Salk the original recipe for the polio vaccine? He invented Yahtzee? Or maybe he's the thirteenth apostle?

The whole POW thing is getting old. I have never, ever, seen a POW try to use his imprisonment as some sort of "credential" or badge of honor (shield against the left) the way McCain's supporters do. Folks, its shameless to all the other POW's. And, this credential was established 40 years ago. I would say its almost irrelevant but Clark was right, just because McCain was a POW, that doesn't mean he has the cred to be Pres.

"Nancy is getting her head handed to her by her constituents back home."

I'm not sure the reacion is that strong, but Cindy Sheehan made the ballot, and I've seen several bumper stickers with her name. Expect a few thousand protest votes aimed at getting Nancy's attention. Mine will be one of them. Nothing else works.

If the leadership has any pride left at all they will--when the time is ripe--fire Lieberman out of a cannon as far away from the Democratic Party as possible.

surfjac @ 26:

Yellow Elephant Safari @ 16:

pissed off patricia @ 8:

Good for her. I don't know how much good what she said will do but at least she called him out on what he said.

I heard a woman on Fox say that while McCain was a POW the other POWs called him "Hell's Angel" because he would defy the guards and hold church services for the other prisoners. I have never heard that story before.

POP
That story is on the front page of this morning's McCain Chicago Tribune. I laughed out loud when I saw it. What's next? He sent Jonas Salk the original recipe for the polio vaccine? He invented Yahtzee? Or maybe he's the thirteenth apostle?

The whole POW thing is getting old. I have never, ever, seen a POW try to use his imprisonment as some sort of "credential" or badge of honor (shield against the left) the way McCain's supporters do. Folks, its shameless to all the other POW's. And, this credential was established 40 years ago. I would say its almost irrelevant but Clark was right, just because McCain was a POW, that doesn't mean he has the cred to be Pres.

Or that he has the mental capacity either.

Who decides which videos stay and which ones get taken down? Is it like an administrator at youtube?

Another one of her diversionary moves, this. She has no say about how the Senate runs itself. Meanwhile, while she's publicly pretending to be a Democrat, word is she's going to allow a vote on offshore drilling.

Yes, Lieberquisling is an unconscionable, self-serving little toad, but it's her position that needs to be in the deepest jeoprody.

Stop threatening, chiding, whining...etc. Nancy...and friggin' DO SOMETHING REALITY BASED! Below, from Ezra Kelin...it looks like the traitorous Lieberman CAN BE KICKED OFF ALL HIS COMMITTEE POSITIONS WITHOUT BLOWBACK!!!!!!!

Marc Ambinder asks:
If John McCain selects Joe Lieberman as his vice presidential ticket-mate, does Harry Reid kick Lieberman out of the Senate Democratic conference, thus, potentially, transferring power to Republicans for a few months?

No. Lieberman can't pull a Jeffords; in 2001, Democrats coaxed Republicans members of the Senate into passing an organizing resolution that allowed for control of the body to shift when Senators switched caucuses, as happened with Jeffords. There's no such clause in the current organizing resolution, and while Lieberman and the Republicans could get 51 votes between them and Cheney in favor of a new organizing resolution, Reid could easily filibuster it and retain control. So essentially, there's no way short of a 10 member swing toward the Republicans that control over the Senate will shift before January 2009.

BTW, Cindy Sheehan for Congress.

We need a Jeffersonian revolution to be rid of the entire lot of them, with the exception of Kucinich and a very few others.

Nancy Fat Cat Pelosi must go.

whoa, pelosi is finally starting to listen to her base. she has to keep swinging before faith in her is restored. she may not care what we think, but she needs to remember that we are the voting public.

liberalNmoderation @ 19:

pissed off patricia @ 8:

Good for her. I don't know how much good what she said will do but at least she called him out on what he said.

I heard a woman on Fox say that while McCain was a POW the other POWs called him "Hell's Angel" because he would defy the guards and hold church services for the other prisoners. I have never heard that story before.

Neither have I...in fact, I've never heard of ANY POW's that were there with him say anything about McBain.

Actually a few fellow POWs have come forth saying that they can't vote for McCain in full conscience. Last week a POW that was smeared in McCain's book called him on his shit, and basically labeled the old fuck as a bold faced liar.

His nickname in the Hanoi Hilton seems to have been "song bird." BTW, lest not forget that he signed off all that anti-American propaganda while in Prison. He was surely coerced into the Vietnamese propaganda, however he is not the one to play the hero card now... esp. since he has been quite forthcoming in his support for torture, which sort of erased any integrity he must have had as a POW.

Also, in the old days getting captured by the enemy wasn't really considered an heroic feat...

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Micheal Scheuer's latest on Lieberman's efforts and how the I Lobby has Obama and McCain licking their feet .

The Lobby Like No Other Wants a War Like No Other

By Michael Scheuer(Michael Scheuer is a 22-year veteran of the CIA and the author of Imperial Hubris: Why the West Is Losing the War on Terror.

McCain is an Israel-firster of the deepest hue. Coached by Joe Lieberman – who argues there is a U.S. duty to ensure God's promise to Abraham about Israel is kept – McCain is now considering Republican Congressman Eric Cantor for his running mate. Rep. Cantor, needless to say, is eager to spend American blood and treasure to secure Israel. Speaking in Israel, Cantor pushed the same false assertion that is the staple of U.S. leaders in both parties. "What befalls Jerusalem," Cantor said, "threatens the security of the United States and its allies worldwide. That's because Jerusalem and Israel are Ground Zero in the global battle between tyranny and democracy, radicalism and moderation, terrorism and freedom."

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20510.htm

Nancy's timing with this 'tough talk' ...is all about nancy(and a gal named cindy)..and
nothing to do with Joe.

foutsc @ 48:

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Lieberman is a Traitor to the Constitution to the truth and to the people that he is willing to sacrifice for his bloody unnecessary wars (he did not serve and none of his children or grandchildren have served in the military. He is a yellow bellied chickenhawk.

Is Pelosi stupid?

You don't tell him that till we don't need him.

Mayday @9"
"It took exactly 1 hour and 10 minutes for that video to disappear - so who monitors information at you tube?"

Something's going on with the embeds. If you go to YouTube, you can watch it-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF8BdG5yNWA

trevor-es @ 57:

pissed off patricia @ 34:

Who decides which videos stay and which ones get taken down? Is it like an administrator at youtube?

May be Joe's formal complaint to Youtube/Google a few months back is now paying dividends.

Did he really make a formal complaint to them? About what?

paranoia @ 2:

I knew Nancy would get upset with Joe! Helping the Republican is her job, not Joe. Not enough room for 2 big turncoat!

Bump

So now that Condi is playing hall monitor in Georgia, what is there left for Lieberman and Graham to do when they arrive? Maybe they can get in some shopping time. Hell, Condi would probably like to go along too.

sheeesh! mccain doesn't wear "boots"! He wears really expensive loafers!

Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 42:

We need a Jeffersonian revolution to be rid of the entire lot of them, with the exception of Kucinich and a very few others.

Nancy Fat Cat Pelosi must go.

Electoral Reform. No change in how we elect representatives, no change at all.

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pissed off patricia @ 69:

trevor-es @ 65:

Around March it was on C&L:
YouTube responds to Lieberman’s calls for censorship: Thanks, but no thanks

pissed off patricia @ 60:

trevor-es @ 57:

Did he really make a formal complaint to them? About what?

Sweet! I guess someone at YouTube has indeed read the constitution and believes in what it says.

Few have actually read the Constitution. People tend to have a political philosophy, and just think that the Constitution mandates it. But they haven't actually read or studied the Constitution.

Tyler Durden @ 47:

Can_You_Hear_Me_Now_? @ 43:

General_Rennenkampf @ 17:

Pah!

I'll believe it when I see it. As Speaker of the House, she effectively has no authority over the Senate, thanks to Article I of the Constitution's little clause that each chamber of the legislature makes its own rules. Just what can the Speaker of the House do to a Senator?

I don't think that Pelosi has ever actually READ the Constitution.

It is just a piece of paper after all... George told her so, and since he is the prisidint he must know!!!

Proof that the so called "constitution" is just a piece of paper: http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/tl07a.shtml

kabuki

she has no credibility. what is the difference between giving Bush everything he wants and then stamping your little feet and write angry letters or simply embracing the neocon pillaging? the result is the same: Bush does as he pleases. At least Holy Joe isn't hypocritical about it. Which is sort of like taking great pride in war crimes - it may be honest, but it's still disgusting.

pissed off patricia @ 76:

Karen @ 72:

pissed off patricia @ 69:

trevor-es @ 65:

Sweet! I guess someone at YouTube has indeed read the constitution and believes in what it says.

Few have actually read the Constitution. People tend to have a political philosophy, and just think that the Constitution mandates it. But they haven't actually read or studied the Constitution.

Everyone should have to take some courses in Constitutional Law. I did back when I was in college and I thought they were the best courses of all the legal courses I took.

Incidentally, do you think that the 10th Amendment might prove an effective source to stop the constant expansion of bureaucracy? I mean, it's right there and waiting for anybody to use it to point it at the Bush gang of clowns...

This is just another meaningless statement from Miss Nancy. Come January 2009, Joe's leadership will be gone because the dems will have enough seats to dispose of him.

pissed off patricia @ 76:

Karen @ 72:

pissed off patricia @ 69:

trevor-es @ 65:

Sweet! I guess someone at YouTube has indeed read the constitution and believes in what it says.

Few have actually read the Constitution. People tend to have a political philosophy, and just think that the Constitution mandates it. But they haven't actually read or studied the Constitution.

Everyone should have to take some courses in Constitutional Law. I did back when I was in college and I thought they were the best courses of all the legal courses I took.

Did those courses ever mention Lysander Spooner?

ysbaddaden @ 86:

81 General_Rennenkampf

Incidentally, do you think that the 10th Amendment might prove an effective source to stop the constant expansion of bureaucracy? I mean, it’s right there and waiting for anybody to use it to point it at the Bush gang of clowns…
________________________________________________________

I doubt it, most amendments, and probably some laws have language to the effect of: "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." They generally do this by creating agencies and sub-agencies thus creating the bureaucracy.

Max Weber, who prefered bureaucracy with civil service exams made the argument that the only other alternatives were nepotism and spoils.

Another alternative is the system that sustained the Chinese empire for millennia. Unfortunately, the Chinese system is prone to stagnation of a much deadlier sort than what currently exists now in the US or what Brezhnev brought to the USSR.

But the 10th Amendment, which states that all powers not expressedly delegated to the federal government are delegated to the states and the people, might provide a wedge into the bureaucracy that otherwise might create a system of 1970s Soviet inefficiency if things keep moving the way their moving.

Ooo Ooo Ooo a Sternly Worded Poop.

liberalNmoderation @ 90:

pissed off patricia @ 78:

If there were as many copies of the Constitution floating around out there and being read, as there are bibles, this country would be a hell of a lot better off.

Actually...I think the entire planet would be better off if the bible had never been written.

I'm not so sure...something else would have come along in its place, and no guarantees that it would have been as relatively easy to defang as Christianity.

Monotheism, let alone evangelical monotheism like Christianity or Islam, was a genie that was going to pop out of the bottle sometime, after all, we have it in a nonChristian context in both India and a pre-Columbian indigenous religion in the American continent.

General_Rennenkampf @ 91:

liberalNmoderation @ 90:

pissed off patricia @ 78:

If there were as many copies of the Constitution floating around out there and being read, as there are bibles, this country would be a hell of a lot better off.

Actually...I think the entire planet would be better off if the bible had never been written.

I'm not so sure...something else would have come along in its place, and no guarantees that it would have been as relatively easy to defang as Christianity.

Monotheism, let alone evangelical monotheism like Christianity or Islam, was a genie that was going to pop out of the bottle sometime, after all, we have it in a nonChristian context in both India and a pre-Columbian indigenous religion in the American continent.

I never understood sacrificing virgin into the volcano. Sounds like something a jilted man would think of. I am all for sacrificing bad leaders into the volcano. Whatever religion that foster that, I will believe in a heart beat! Some reggae music and drum beats, and food aplenty while tossing the warmonger into the fire.

I wish Nancy Pelosi had said that Joe Lieberman's chairmanship will be revoked should the Democrats no longer need him to form a majority, but that's not what she said. This post is misleading. She simply commented that it'll be "very interesting" to observe what would happen in that hypothetical scenario. Not exactly the most committal of possible responses to the caller's question.

OH who the hell cares what you think anymore Nancy? You suck more than Sucky McSuckington, winner of the Suckton, SC Suck County Suck-Off.

If you'd DO YOUR DAMN JOB already, we wouldn't be worrying about Lapdog Lieberman, we'd be celebrating the first Female President... YOU! (you know... the part where you'd be next in line after Bush and Cheney are impeached out of DC and into a Federal Prison? You know... the whole oath to defend the Constitution thingy you did when you took office?)

Oh well, but that's off the table... which led me to my aforementioned proclamation of your well-known general suckitude.

Oh please! Pelosi's been a total failure. When Obama loses in November her and the rest of the incompetent Democratic leadership should be shown the door. It's time to rebuild the party with people who will fight for progressive ideals.

Meat @ 95:
"I wish Nancy Pelosi had said that Joe Lieberman’s chairmanship will be revoked should the Democrats no longer need him to form a majority, but that’s not what she said. This post is misleading. She simply commented that it’ll be “very interesting” to observe what would happen in that hypothetical scenario"

Yes, that's exactly what she said. I think C&L was being deceptive in making it look like she had even HALF a spine. What the caller actually got was a parsed non-answer saying it might be interesting to see if a Democratically controlled Senate would continue to let a turncoat Republican chair one of its most important committees, or if they might think about giving the job to a Democrat instead.

It would be NICE if we got that kind of non-partisan THIRD PARTY NEUTRALITY from the MEDIA! Instead, we get partisan Republican SPIN from the media, and non-partisan NEUTRALITY from the Democratic Speaker of the House. Nice...

Can't watch the video. Did she threaten to write him a stern letter?

What is she going to do, blink Joe to death?

Don't believe it- she's selling books.

shaggles @ 4:

Pelosi is Speaker of the House. Does she actually have any say about Senate commitees? Well kudos anyway for sort of standing up to Lieberman.

Oh, please. Pelosi neve stood up to anyone. Civics 101: Lieberman is in the Senate.

PUT THE SMACK ON LIARMAN.... about freeking time!!!!

why he has power.... because he is the 51st vote.... SADLY THEY NEED HIM AT TIMES....

get everyone registered to vote TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE

Hey, Nancy! The correct answer is,

"If I were doing a better job in the House, I might stick my nose into Senate affairs. Right now, I'm too busy keeping impeachment off the table to concern myself with something that is none of my business."

Nancy, when you do something other than send nasty letters, and wait and see, we'll listen. Until then...

How are your dividend cheques from the MIC these days? BIG? HUGE?

Edwin Hussein, arugula lover @ 116:

What have the Dems done to "cool down/shut down" the neocons since they were elected in '06? I can't think of anything either. If you can, please post it, I'm eager to see.

The Dems are enablers.

Well they, er....ahem brb

I only hope from the bottom of my heart that Lieberman takes Pelosi, Emanuel, Hoyer, Reid, Schumer and Feinstein with him.

Pelosi won't do a damned thing. She is Bush's biggest protector in Congress, and so a natural ally of Lieberman.

This is just for show, trying to fend off Cindy Sheehan's candidacy.

More talk, no action. Why didn't she do that a year or 2 ago? It's not like he has been working with the dems all along.
What a disappointment pelosi is, as a woman and as a dem. wonder what the reps have on her to keep her so adamantly against protecting the us constitution?

Otay @ 119:

I only hope from the bottom of my heart that Lieberman takes Pelosi, Emanuel, Hoyer, Reid, Schumer and Feinstein with him.

I couldn`t agree more. These people are not Democrats. They are enablers for the Chimp and Company. They cut our throats and now they want to be voted in again.

When are you people going to get it through your demented heads? Fight Republicans, not Democrats. I know the San Francisco Bay Area, and believe me Pelosi and Feinstein are not, not, not going to be voted out. We need to get Obama and other Democrats voted in---put your energy and passion in that direction. You can follow your "ideals" and lose or accept being in a bigger tent and (maybe) win. Just stop and consider this. Would you rather be "right" than win??

Even though she's not in the Senate, I loved hearing it from someone in the leadership.

Actually, I'm beginning to think we're all being a little too hard on Nancy. True, she's been a pusillanimous insect when it comes to upholding the Constitution, or impeaching BushCo. But you got to give her credit for frustrating the Republicans on the offshore oil drilling debate, shutting off C-SPAN and turning the lights out in the house, leaving the turgid little buggers to scramble around in the dark like cockroaches with silk neckties.

Now THAT was some FUNNY SH!T!

jward @ 130:

Let's not worry about the judgment of history right now, let's worry about the election in 10 weeks. Obama's election is very iffy--he's only a few points ahead if that. Plus it would be nice if we could elect 6 or 8 Democratic senators so we could finally make some progress in Congress and get more laws passed that would benefit the people. Those you are calling a band of losers were winners in 2006, but by the very slimmest of margins. In short do you realize that we are very close to getting Pres. McCain? (we've only had 2 Democratic presidents in the last 40 years) and if we do get Pres. McCain do you want a strong opposition in Congress that can fight him?

Yes, let's worry about the election. And in that vein, encourage the Dem congresscritters to vote with the majority of the country, rather than vote with the dead-enders. Repubs already are using the example of the Dem congress to point out that it was a "bipartisan" screw-up that this administration got us into. IOW, Dems in general are being dragged into the mud that Bush created.

We would be far beyond McCain in public opinion if it weren't for the DC establishment (and yes, Obama) trying to associate themselves with the Repubs in policy, by voting with their most egregious of bills.

And don't associate my attack of the some of the Dems with all of the Dems in congress. Russ Feingold has made some mistakes (and some serious ones), but he has done much good. So have several other Dems. However, the craven ones in congress are dragging the names of the good ones down with them.

Yes I want a strong opposition in congress to fight Repubs. That is why the poor Dems must be marginalized at the very least. Thanks to them and the incompetent Dem strategists, the race is this close, and not ahead by 30 points. When one considers that around 80-85% of citizens think the country is going in the wrong direction, a 30 point lead should be a given.

Yawn. Not too late to impeach. I'm voting for Sheehan either way.

I agree with the comments here, she has NO credibility and I hope she's voted out in november with the rest of the scumbags.

Her legacy will be having had the chance to impeach the most corrupt, incompetent, unconstitutional president in US history and taking a pass.

Nancy is a stealth Republican. The party is infested with DINO's.

She said:
"She said that if the Democrats win enough seats in the Senate then bye-bye Joe from any leadership position he might have held."

First of all isn't she in the House? Secondly, she needed to say this ages ago or now keep quiet. This is not the time to start saying this because even this close to your election Lieberman could easily switch sides right this moment if he has zero chance of keeping his chairmanships (not that he deserves them) and there goes the Senate for the last 80 or so days until your election.

It's queen nancy that needs a good smack.

Nancy is worthless. Best as I can tell, the Dems are working very hard to make sure another Republican gets voted in as President. Obama should be handing McCain his ass and yet some polls show them tied. Write in Kucinich. If enough of us did that, it would be pure comedy gold when the total votes cast far exceeds the number of people that will vote....

joe the JEW Lieberman is a dick sucking jew.....nuff said!

dk@147,
You ACTUALLy said,
"joe the JEW Lieberman is a dick sucking jew…..nuff said"

Although I claim no religious affiliation, how the FUCK did you make it past the sitemonitor?
Joe may be a worthless bag of slime on the public dole, but prithee tell, what does this have to do with him being jewish?
Go to the back of the line and get some manners while you're waiting.