Bombshell: Serious Palin vetting took place <i>one day</i> before official selection
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Sep 02, 2008 8:00am
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was not subjected to a lengthy in-person background interview with the head of Sen. John McCain's vice presidential vetting team until last Wednesday in Arizona, the day before McCain asked her to be his running mate, and she did not disclose the fact that her 17-year-old daughter was pregnant until that meeting, two knowledgeable McCain officials acknowledged Tuesday.
In the first and most telling executive decision of his potential presidency, John McCain makes a rash, reckless decision that, God forbid he falls ill while in office, will be disastrous for this country. Is that the kind of judgment we need in the White House for another four years?
Heather caught this video last night from MSNBC of Rachel Maddow blasting Buchanan for praising Palin... after, of course, he said her nomination would be disastrous.
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John Cole makes a great point:
McCain had three months free to do whatever- to fund raise, to campaign, to make the case for himself, to shore up the base, to work on the platform, and, presumably, to begin vetting his running partner.
What, then, did the McCain team do with the extra three months they had to choose their candidate? Beats me, but it sure as hell was not a careful examination of Sarah Palin.
Who do you want as Commander In Chief? An intemperate flyboy, or a cautious thinker?
What's even worse is that despite all the evidence proving the McCain did a piss-poor job of vetting Palin, McCain still insists that the background check was thorough and he's pleased with the results. Wow. Just wow.
To me, the question is no longer whether or not Sarah Palin is ready to be VP; it's whether or not John McCain has the temperament and judgment to be President. His choice of the eminently unqualified Palin pretty much answers that question.
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Country..... I'll get around to it later.
C'mon, people. He was a fucking POW!
Come on folks...she's got demonstrably more experience than Barack Obama. After all, she's a hockey mom! 'Nuf said.
Now the McCain camp is insisting that the day before was a second vetting. If this should turn out to be false like everything else, will we see the media calling him a liar on this? Please keep us up to date, SilentPatriot!
Word among Alaska politicians here in Anchorage is mccain's organization didn't contact any one of them.
McCain kept telling Palin to meet him at his house for the vetting. Never said which house. Months of confusion ensued.
Grandpa is just a lazy, unqualified old man who never learned how to work hard or think things through. It is amazing to listen the political experts try to justify Palin. Obama and Biden are sitting back silent, laughing at Grandpa, praying nothing will change, knowing they will demolish Mrs. Moose burger.
The GOP - Give Us One More Chance....
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=183781&title=the-g...
The last second of that clip was the best part of the entire thing:
"I vetted her. (hah hah)"
-Pat Buchanan
There once was a man named McCain,
Who lost what was left of his brain,
He called his new wife a cu*t,
What a shi**y little runt,
now his campaign is going down the drain.
poem by John Hulse
He might as well have chosen Michael Palin.
His judgment sucked the big one on this. He is willing to leave our country in the hands of a freakin' hockey mom if anything should happen to him. Yeah, I call bull sh*t on his country first garbage. President first is more like it and to hell with the country if he should kick off because he won't be here to see her major fu*k ups and disasters.
McC(shitst)ain is STILL a POW...
With a record of voting with the Chimp 95% of the time, Bombin' Johnnie's a "Prisoner Of "W"..."
Unless they successfully rig/steal he election, the GOPers know they're going to lose, and probably by a wide margin. This may have a lot more to do with setting up their ducks all in a row for 2012...a cynical move that they will use to manipulate as many women voters as they can in the interim. It could be an initial opening salvo in a propaganda war that they will wage in order to build brand loyalty, hoping that women voters will remember this gesture (however cynical that gesture is) in 2012. Expect the fact that McCain picked a woman (and in this regard, anybody who comes factory-equipped with a vagina would serve the purpose) to become a relentless talking point, repeated as often as the GOPers repeat their many Big Lies. An act of strategic manipulation.
Actually I can easily visualize the scene. A senior McCain campaign adviser slaps his forehead and says: We coulda had a VP.
It's so appropriate that they chose Palin for the Veep slot. What better than someone from Alaska to roll the huge ass snowballs the GOP loves to hurl at unsuspecting Americans.
Hey, isn't that a photo of those pop music sensations, Scummy and Scare?!
Moggy @ 11:
That would've gotten him the lumberjack vote.
It best to not interfere when your adversary is busy committing suicide.
I tell ya folks...went to the pub last night to meet some friends for a few drinks...the discussion drifted to Palin...and these friends...lifelong republicans.. are just dumbfounded by McBain pic...they say that they're voting for Obama now...even admitted to having serious misgivings about McBains mental acuity for some time...and this veep pic proved to them that he's not fit for the job.
McCain wanted Lieberquisling but his masters wouldn't let it happen? Awwww...poor old Lieberquisling, always the bridesmaid but never the bride.
She has to go. Time is reporting that she wanted to ban books from the library in her little town.
AlterNet:
Thanks to Bush, the Republican Party is not strongly associated with intellectualism. But Sarah Palin has apparently taken the conservative derision for book-learnin' to a whole new level: Time reports that as mayor Palin asked the town librarian how to go about banning books from the local library. News reports from the time show that the librarian, who, strangely enough, was opposed to a tactic commonly employed by totalitarian regimes, had her job threatened for not giving her "full support" to the mayor.
She is one scary person. Hitler would have admired her.
Great way to run a country eh??
It's no surprise he made the decision on Saturday when Obama announce his VP as Biden, but was unsure how unified the DEM Convention would come out after Clinton's speech, so we they thought i was a good idea to announce it on Friday to rain (Pun intended) on Obama's parade. Karma's a Bitch and John McCain Cun't palease her.
Left&Left @ 7:
Right, and Fred Thompson actually said we were panicking over Palin? I swear, sometimes I wonder what you have to do to yourself to be able to interpret reality like that.
Comedy gold.... Ginrich rails on MSNBC reporter for knocking Palin's achievments.
Newt Gingrich - smackdown on MSNBC for Sarah Palin
MSNBC reporter: Uhh, back up to you, Keith.
Keith????
Austin along with 15 other US cities are bigger than Alaska and Chicago itself is 4 times as bigger than Alaska.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population
Palin said war in Iraq, gas pipeline are God’s will - In a speech last June in her church
Wow, banning books from the library? That is great. One can only hope these tidbits start to emerge in the MSM over the next couple of months. Dems need to be all over this in the media. Unfortunately, they probably need to be female dems so they aren't being accused of sexism.
Bottom line is that Palin was picked by the religious right and the courageous, decisive, hero
McCain is now stuck with being stubborn about keeping her, rather than be the boss. Again, only
when she and he becomes a laughing stock will they be forced to drop her and let the new decider have Lieberman.
So the big question should be........who turned it down at the last minute that caused the Repugs to consider Palin at the last moment?
People for the Ameircan Way is pissed:
“People can disagree about a lot of things, but censorship is completely beyond the pale. Our democracy was founded on the belief that government shouldn’t tell people what kinds of books to read or what kind of beliefs to hold. No one with that kind of history should be anywhere near the White House. Sarah Palin needs to clarify her stance on freedom of speech immediately, and John McCain needs to explain why he chose a running mate with so little regard for the Constitution.”
Librarians will go ballistic over this.
Does anyone think McCain is responsible for this decision, or any other? "McCain does not speak for the campaign". If they manage to steal this election, somehow pull this off, on January 20 2009, we simply unscrew the Bush 43 figurehead off the top of the White House totem pole, screw on the McCain figurehead, and on January 21 it's business as usual.
Radically Moderate @ 31:
Word has it that he was going to pick Lieberman but the head honchos for the fundies told him if he did that the campaign would go down in flames. So he let them take the reigns and they chose Palin. The old maverick gave up control and his own gut feeling and gave in to pressure from the right. A man of strength? Hardly.
Obama is going on The O'Reilly Factor on Thursday.
...which begs the question: If this capricious, reckless, delusional man has not done his homework, isn't it our responsibility to do our "own homework" and get to the bottom of this woman's past?
I would contend that it's not only essential in this case but a PATRIOTIC DUTY OF EVERY AMERICAN. After all, this is the woman who may assume the presidency of this country in the (likely) event of McCain's cancer returning and being sidlined.
I would contend that the probability that a Veep will ascend to President has NEVER BEEN HIGHER as it is in this case.
This just in....
http://tinyurl.com/596vrg
No. 44 @ 32:
Yes, librarians and every other person with the intelligence of even a small rock.
"Bombshell"??
Right. More like a dud firecracker followed by aggregate yawning among the GOP. They don't care. Mora lprobity and competence only apply to Democrats.
Palin files ethics complaint against self in ‘troopergate’.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/09/03/palin-files-ethics-complaint-against-s...
Dear Lord, The MSM is in a frenzy. This Palin crap is unnerving. The fact she was not vetted properly is astonishing. This VP pick is disasterous. The more I learn about her, the more I can't believe McCain picked her. The way the Covention is covered is awful. They purposely featured the very few minorities there to make it look more diverse. Disgusting.
sophya @ 36:
Plus, McCain is the oldest first term president we have ever had. This is the most important veep ever in my opinion. And I might add, the least qualified veep candidate in a long time.
ProfitMedia will fall into line once they have their RNC talking points and marching orders. Look at the 180 that Scumborough and Buganan pulled over the past few days.
ProfitMedia will not allow the book banning, secessionist ties, absent parenting, pork barreling, creationist sort of crap to become issues,
Prepare yourselves for the "feisty former beauty queen patriot" meme.
She always sticks her hand out like that like she's signaling a right had turn in her SUV. What's she's doing is signaling a right hand turn for the country. Hasn't America been run into the ground enough already? No more right hand turns!
pissed off patricia @ 34:
We got "stuck" with Palin as a result of a pissing contest between Reichstag Karl (and Bush) and McSame. Bush castrated McSame during the primaries of 2000 and vindictive Johnny has never forgotten it. He decided he'd "fix their wagons" by pulling this reproductive rabbit out of his top hat. And we all know what happens to magicians when their tricks are uncovered, don't we? What we are seeing right now is the "uncovering process" and it ain't pretty.
Besides, my bone of contention with the WH and McSame demanding "hands off" the Palin family is the height of hubris and audacity. When was the last time we witnessed (other than the protocol of a national convention) a woman parading on stage with Mr. Mom and 5 kids to be used as nothing more than "political props". And then... her speech is full of nothing more than describing her kids with the first lie interspersed about how she said "no thanks" to congress for the bridge to nowhere.
I say this: If she uses her kids as political "props", (which she clearly did) then it's "fair game" initiated by her for americans to delve deeper. If she didn't want her unwed, nationally embarrassed pregnant daughter exploited by the media, then she should have paraded her carrying the mongoloid brother and a very suspicious "blankie" trying to cover her 5 month pregnant belly. Palin has brought this on herself by her lack of discretion and total lack of empathy for her own daughter....not to mention another very flagrant "error in judgment".
I think the media needs to do the vetting which John McSame didn't care enough to do. And right now - dig in.
Whenever I see those two side by side I think: Old Dude / Beauty Queen 08!
Lsst night I heard a soundbite from Joe Biden promising an angry voter that both he and Obama will go ahead with a criminal prosecution of the Bush regime.
Mike Malloy was quite pleased and immediately said he's definately voting Obama/Biden.
Anyone got the audio/video link?
"Who do you want as Commander In Chief? An intemperate flyboy, or a cautious thinker?"
I will take the "intemperate flyboy" (which translates to a MAN) over a "cautious thinker" (which translates to a PUSSY) any day.
Obama = total pussy = the entire Left of this country.
This goes hand in hand with McCain's gambling problem- he's gambling with 300 million of us this time!
The GOP Palintology theme:
ANY questioning of Palin’s experience — not even criticism, just questions — is “belittling” her.
More broadly (e.g., as proffered by Carly Fiorina), any detailed critical analyses of Palin’s CV whatsoever are nothing more than despicable Godless Democrat sexist politics-of-personal-destruction smear tactics. She Is All That Is Good And Pure And Righteous; McGod Said It, I Believe It, That Settles It.
Besides, they vetted her with this:
http://www.bgladd.com/McSameStore/Palintology_E-meter.jpg
Question: Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall to hear the candid conversations between McCain's closest advisors and biggest defenders, Lindsay Graham and Joe Lieberman about John's mental state after this choice?
If this were a longtime friend of mine, I would be wondering if, at 72, my friend was sort of losing it. This is more than a bad decision in my opinion.
National Enquirer (Did The Edward's Affair) has reporters up North, Supposedly they found juicy details and dirty secrets.
Babygate
*Sarah Palin attempted to quietly have her daughter Bristol get married before news of her pregnancy leaked out
*Palin planned for the wedding to take place right after the Republican National Convention and then she was going to announce the pregnancy.
*But Bristol, 17, refused to go along with the plan and that sparked a mother-daughter showdown over the failed cover-up.
*The ultra-conservative governor’s announcement about her daughter’s pregnancy came hours after The ENQUIRER informed her representatives and family members of Levi Johnston, the father of Bristol’s child, that we were aware of the pregnancy and were going to break the news.
*In a preemptive strike Palin released the news, creating political shock-waves.
Also people are so mad about troopergate in Alaska that everyone is coming forth with details and stories about Palin and her scandalous ways.
NE promises more to come!
(McCain next time do some more vetting and make a better decision)
pissed off patricia @ 42:
The "probability factor" of McSame's demise while in office (or sidelining due to chemotheraphy for his invasive melanoma which is incurable) is probably around 65% - just like Stage 2A Invasive Melanoma: 65% get 10 years. McCain's diagnosis was 2000 and it's now "year #8" so we all need to do the math.
Rand @ 48:
Makes perfect sense from the tone and tenor of your post. You would.
"Heck of a job, Paly."
Rand @ 48:
Uh, yeah...got anything of real substance?
sophya @ 54:
We all know that Rand is a racist so what's new here?
dennis @ 26:
Every point that this Fat Cat Socialist Gingrich claims as something Governor Palin has done that Senator Obama has not, could just as readily be said of Senator McCain.
The fact that the 'reporter' is unable to respond to Gingrich's fallacious reasoning does nothing to buttress his argument.
That is the problem is the lack of journalistic excellence in this country.
Obama's record is out for the voters to see, he won his parties nomination with that record.
The point here is that choice of VP is the first and potentially most important decision that the candidate for President makes.
It is now readily apparent by their own admission that this choice was hasty.
Also by their own admission this is a campaign, not of issues, but of personalities.
McCain is losing on both counts.
sophya @ 54:
My advice? Do Not Feed.
Rand @ 48:
Did school not start yesterday in some areas of the country?
Ruthless People @ 46:
When I see them together it's creepy. I can't explain it exactly but it just looks strange to me and not in a good way. For some reason I just want to turn away and not look.
Ahh ......... BARBIE for VP
Would get a lot of young votes, but if mccain dies we'd have a frigging Mattel Doll for president.
Banning books, eh? What a light weight. A true Republican would have advocated burning them.
PorridgeGun @ 47:
Hadn't heard that...I do think they should. But they need to keep that sort of thing under their hats until after they're in the WH.
John McCain is the sacrificial lamb of the GOP party elders.
Do you REALLY think they were going to use one of their prime conservative members to get slaughtered in this election year.
McCain had no business winning the nomination. He was broke and last. Ooooh...all of a sudden he gets this influx of money...c'mon guys...where the hell do you think it came from???...all of a suddent the Little Green Footballers opened their wallets?
This election was over before it even started. The media has pushed it as a horserace by using controlled polls, spun reports, lies and half truths.
They vetted a VP candidate for ONE day. Do you really think they are that stupid? John McCain IS an idiot...or at least a memory challenged old codger past his time. His ambition has blinded him to how he is being used. This VP candidate is a NOBODY...that's why she's on the ticket...just one more landmine to ensure defeat.
The GOP doesn't want to win. Why would they? Do you think they want to take over the mess they made. They'll let the Democrats clean it up, make the tough decisions, and criticise them through the whole process in the hope that by 2012 they can get back the Congress and by 2016 get back the Presidency.
It's about power.
John j @ 52:
Keep repeating this post. You're darn right the people of Alaska have Palin's number and are talking. And, they will continue to talk since this appears to be just the tip of a very shady iceberg. Palin's connections to Silver who was Abramoff's chief lobbyist as well as Palin's and who got Alaska millions of dollars (ahem) is sure to tank her; in fact, she may find herself embroiled in more than troopergate before long. And she thought that troopergate was the extent of her problems????? I guess Abramoff is talking now too. More to come......
Please keep repeating this post and reminding everyone about this woman's lurid past. Can't wait for her pageant buddies to start funneling compromising photos of her....as well as some great tales about the great tail.
John j @ 52:
Hopefully there will be no next time.
Pistol Packin' Palin speaks tonight and the world will be watching. If she starts screeching again I'll watch it in silence.
If the Repub speakers, keep extolling change (when did they steal "change") by pointing out the cleaning up of the corruption of half the audience, while they are dutifully applauding, I'll be applauding too!
Go get them gal! The whole world will be watching.
Moggy @ 63:
She just wanted Hillary's "It Takes a Village" tossed from the Wassila library and replaced with her bio tome "I Gave Birth to a Village."
That is, the problem is the lack of journalistic excellence in this country.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 58:
sophya @ 54:
Guess he'd prefer a Left consistent entirely of brain-dead radial, revolutionary communists.
Who'd want a pussy like Kennedy when you could have a real man like Stalin?
Ruthless People @ 46:
i think there's uncle joe (he's movin' kinda slow) and bobby joe on their way to hooterville.
Biden chose his words carefully and used restrained language. But in a word, he told the YES.
Here is my question to you: Should the 18 yr old kid that got Gov. Palin underage daughter pregnant be charged, with a crime like other teens in this Country? There are teens in this Country currently serving jail time, for commenting the same offense of having sex with an underage minor that this kid is being accused of. Why isn’t the law being followed in this case? Is there a double standard for a VP candidate?
P.D. @ 41:
So true.
Grandpa is such a filthy liar. He knows full fucking well that this woman wasn't his first choice or the best the Repukes have to offer from their sorry lot. Whenever one of the Republican pundits are asked a simple question "Is Palin the best VP candidate available?" the question never gets answered.
Imagine what his cabinet would look like.
Biden chose his words carefully and used restrained language. But in a word, he said YES.
At first I thought McCain's nomination of Sarah Palin wasn't unlike having Brownie run Fema, but it's not really cronyism. Then it struck me - it's like the vetting done by the DOJ for their attorney's. It's not what you know, your talent or experience, it's if you are a "believer", towing the GOP line. Yup. Talent, skill, experience don't matter as long as Ms. Palin believes.
DebT
Bob @ 74:
Age of consent in Alaska is 16.
pissed off patricia @ 61:
This is precisely what a high percentage of americans are saying: "What's wrong with this picture".. For openers, McCain is the bane of his party, so that's entirely wrong for most republicans. They loathe McCain but would take Howdy Doody for President if that's all they're given.
Secondly, McSame clearly pandered to the reichwing christofascists with Palin's antiquated view about women's reproductive rights.....prima facie evidence: her own prego daughter who is absolutely disconsolate and miserable right now since her mother chose to make a public spectacle of her sad situation.
The fact that this woman claims to be christian and a good mother is appalling to all caring mothers in this country would would NEVER even consider doing what she has done to her own daughter - helping to make her a public spectacle. Having done so, however, opens it all up to the media who will chew this to shreds. Palin opened the door for this knowing full well that her daughter would be thrown to the wolves but her own egoic need for power trumped all consideration for her own daughters. Is this what motherhood has descended to in this country?
Now they cry foul when they open pandora's box and invite everyone in (how many references did Palin have to the members of her family as opposed to anything remotely serious going on in this country??). So she stacks her speech with allusions to her kids and husband and then cries foul when people see that they've been invited in by no one other than Palin herself. What a hypocrite and double standard here! Even stars like Britany don't subject their children to the media. This woman is a shark not a mother.
POW!
Some of these Palin supporters have no idea about her disasterous policies. The ignorance of Americans is staggering! "Oh, she's a woman, let's vote for her!" Idiots. And if she gets in, and can appoint more right wing judges, will these ignorant people be so supportive when Roe vs. Wade is tossed?
lj @ 68:
All she has to do is not fall off the stage for the Republicans to go wild over her wonderful speech and the way she gave it. They'll forget all about their criticism of Obama for being able to deliver a great speech.
I just wish to God that any of this crap mattered at all to the majority of voters. They're going to blindly walk into that voting booth and fill the McCain/Palin box because they think McCain/Palin will get abortion outlawed the day they take office. Or because they think (and I really wish this weren't true) they must vote McCain/Palin because Obama will turn this into the United States of Islam. Or because they think Obama/Biden will outlaw firearms the moment THEY take office. It just makes me so sad.
ashton @ 60:
He doesn't go to school. Got called a "pussy" too much. Can't you tell?
“LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET US NOW EXTEND A WARM GOP CONVENTION FAMILY VALUES WELCOME TO THE YOUNG MAN WHO’S BEEN FUCKING THE GOVERNOR’S TEENAGE DAUGHTER!!!…”
Dilireus @ 76:
Maybe something like this?
John Glenn / Sarah Pawlenty 08
I wonder if the daughter is getting any counseling for her difficult situation. Adolescense can be a confusing and trying time under the best of circumstances.
She doesn't seem to be getting much parenting. Who's minding the kids? I thought that the fundies believed that a mother's place was in the home.
Clearly, Buffoon Boy Wonder Rove is trying to seduce Biden out and Biden's smarter than he is. Atta boy, Joe! Why even spar with these morons? Rove couldn't shine Biden's left shoe.
Now we're discovering that Todd, her high school sweetheart, has ties to a secession movement to break apart our union. Sleeping with the enemy anyone?
It doesn't get much better than this in terms of Obama being handed a true "gift" from the GOP. It doesn't get much better than this for fiction writers. It doesn't get much better than this for the next soap opera entitled: The Ticket to Nowhere.
Imagine how McSame would vet his Secretary of State? I shudder to imagine it.
P.D. @ 82:
You've met one? So.. there are Palin supporters out there?
All I've seen so far, is water-carrying Republicans.
I wonder if Levi will be in the audience tonight. I mean he is like family now, right?
pissed off patricia @ 83:
Probably true, but what will "go wild" look like? Last night's crowd looked like bingo night at Wrinkle Village, and I'm not sure they can get it up. The Spinners like KKNewt will be there though, I suppose.
sophya @ 90:
He's gonna pick Michael Ledeen for State. Phil Gramm for Treasury.
pissed off patricia @ 83:
This will be comedy at it's finest. Have you ever heard a more whining, screeching, disgusting female voice than Palin's? Imagine that screecher standing up to Kim Jung IL? OMG, my sides are splitting. She's been industriously working on her speech for the past 4 days now. When you watch, check this out: Initially I thought it was a nervous "tic" but then realized that that pursing of her bottom lip each time she completes a thought is from playing the flute for decades. It looks hideous during a speech and there's no way her handlers will be able to break this one. It reminds me of the Popeye cartoon where he spouts: I am what I am and then juts out his chin and lower lip. It's hysterical to watch. Almost as hysterical as Freddie T clearing his throat damn near a hundred times.
At this point I am wondering when other notice Sarah Palin looks like Spiro Agnew to John McCain's Richard Nixon act. While McCain is a featherweight to Nixon in terms of intellectual ability, McCain is picking up on a lot of the same campaign methods Nixon used. Cheering on an unpopular war and staking a claim to a Silent Majority that backs him. McCain's negative attacks and general use of the "Southern Strategy 2.0" to attempt turn people from support of Obama. A general fear mongering of "today's culture" and offering himself as the steadfast paternal figure the nation needs to get safety and the good days of years past. Now a Vice Presidential pick that at the governor level engaged in questionable activities seems to be one of the last pieces to the pattern.
Alexdem@81, Yes, unfortunitly I do. Some women at the bus-stop were all a twitter about a woman VP. I asked if they knew where she stood on the issues. They said,"Not really." When I told them about her religious zeal and her pro-life platform they looked uncomfortable. And to think, these are REGISTERED voters.
lj @ 93:
This convention is their worst ever. I consider the source of the commentary. And in viewing the average GOP convention-goer, it looks like a pretty paltry, pathetic gang of locksteppers to me.
The phrases "reformer" and "fought corruption in her own party" leave me curious. If you take them at face value, doesn't that mean she will be going after them?
P.D. @ 97:
And, Get-Out-The-Vote efforts are overrated.
P.D. @ 97:
This selection of an unqualified individual as second in command is just another mysogenistic stab by McCain at the women of america. He's throwing it in our faces. He's the king of mysogenists, this we know and now he is making a total mockery of all qualified women everywhere. It's backfiring.
lj @ 93:
I think they will all turn out tonight because they want to see and hear who she is. They want to hear their new shiny thing speak and tell them why she should not only be the veep but maybe a saint as well. She'll talk about being a mother of five children and the crowd will stand and shout forever. Hell having five kids is almost like being a POW or something according to the republicans.
Here's commentary from Sam Harris on Palin in the LA Times. It's worth the read and ought to be linked from the C&L Main Page:
sophya @ 101:
We really need to hear from Hillary on this.
woody, tokin librul @ 13:
No shit. You are unusually perceptive, heh.
To be sure, McCain is a Prisoner Of Whackos.
That's all the fucking religious whackos who've infested the Republican party.
The very same ones who, oddly enough, wouldn't let Holy Joe be the VP.
Nice satire.. McCain's voice mail to Palin leaked!
It's funny.. because it could've been the real thing :)
Rand @ 48:
A good recipe for getting shot down and captured. Failure in my book.
Damn this is getting better all the time. The New York Times News Service has covered her early political career in Wasilla. (I think that was last week. The early career I mean) Among Palin's first acts as mayor was to fire the town librarian because she was resistant to banning the books Palin wanted to ban. Only popular support got the librarian her job back. In fact she fired just about everybody. She ran on a promise to reduce her salary and did, from 68 to 64 thousand, then hired a personal assistant on the city payroll that cost a hell of a lot more than four thousand bucks.Pure undiluted Republican.
Mrs Moose burger. " Hey Johnny, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat" ( Bullwinkle's voice over)
Johnny, " But that trick never works"( Rocky voice over)
pissed off patricia @ 102:
Yep....POW and Maw '08
sophya@101, Very true. Most of the woman I know, know this for the charade that it is. But then again, Americans are so self-absorbed. They don't want to be bothered to learn about the issues. Makes me lose faith in my fellow Americans.
How can anyone be seriously vetted in ONE day?
CountryIdeology FirstI wish everyone would stop saying "God forbid he falls ill in the White House." If McCain makes it to the White House the sooner he kicks the bucket the better the world will be.
Janet @ 99:
I believe this is a totally relative statement by McCain. Since we know that Alaska is full of corruption (dubbed the most corrupt state in the country), Minnie Mouse could come in there and enact some reform. She's no more a reformer with her personal abuse of power than McSame himself. The only "corruption" she effectively fought was the removal of someone who refused her. In her view, just like firing the chief of police and director of the library who "didn't support her" (where they perchance Democrats?), anyone who stands up to Palin is "corrupt". Sounding familiar yet? It should since we, as americans, have become well educated victims of the flagrant abuse of power over the past 8 years by this administration. Palin shares the abuse of power mindset. And this she's accomplished in how many years? It sounds to me like she came in there, strapping on a set of balls and toting her shotgun (maybe she can use it in her daughter's wedding...sorry, couldn't resist that one) and clearing the deck of anyone who disagreed with her? This is what's forthcoming from the press and the people of Alaska right now.
Sam Harris:
She was part owner in a car wash and failed to file her paper work with the gov't!!
A Feb. 11, 2007 letter to the governor's business partner advises that the car wash had "not filed its biennial report and/or paid its biennial fees," which were more than a year overdue.
The warning letter was written on state letterhead, which carried Palin's name at the top, next to the state seal.
On April 3, 2007, the state went further and issued a "certificate of involuntary dissolution" because of the car wash's failure to file its report and pay state licensing fees.
Executive experience?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/09/02/palin_scrubbing_ca...
pissed off patricia @ 102:
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 70:
We merely need to clone an army of Moyerses and Stewarts. With a couple of Olbermanns and Maddows thrown in for good measure.
P.D. @ 111:
Many dumbasses will make their way to the voting booth on Nov , and they'll remember reading about her in People magazine, then hit the McCain/Palin button.
Rick Davis and team are taking the lowest road in the lowest valley in a ditch. America will never realize the giant cock slap republicans give them.
Rand @ 48:
C'mon down South Florida, homey, and I'll *show* you "liberal pussy." With big scarred knuckles.
Rachel says in the clip that McCain gambled on this choice. Maybe he wins, maybe he doesn't. But aren't there thousands of people he will have to appoint? Will he gamble on all of them?
And her friends from home chime in!!
http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
From: http://www.washingtonindependent.com/3671/the-reform-candidate
Submitted by Michael Wrightson on Sept 1, 2008
A note to all by Anne Kilkenny
Dear friends,
So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the
last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .
sophya @ 114:
Thanks, and this needs to be repeated again and again because it's so Rovian and BushCo.
Eight days after McCain becomes President of USA ...in the McCain Oval Office...President McCain is working through a agenda for letting Big Oil and Big Coal write their own ticket for new drilling and mining rules and reduced environmental safeguards or no environmental reckoning at all.
Suddenly his NSA guy--- John Bolton---yup---that John---"UN lose ten floors John" is brought in. Iran has not kowtowed to any of the McCain WH threats/ intimidations that started on Jan.21,2009. Bolton wants to send in some USN attack aircraft with one or two "small tactical nukes" to send a "message to Tehran".
President McCain becomes red faced and shouts to two aides standing nearby to get him Secretary of Defense Lieberman.
When Lieberman calls back McCain shouts "I want an attack on Iran in 6 hours!" and then tells Bolton to go tell the new CIA Director, William Kristol,and his Secretary of State, Newt Gingrich,that Iran is going to get the "full treatment" and they better get anyone they care about out of Tehran in next five hours or they will never get out. Alive or dead.
McCain. We are seeing how this guy is going to operate in WH if he gets to Oval Office. On impulse. No reflection. No plan.
This guy is impulsive.Wreckless. Dangerous. Very impulsive,wreckless and dangerous.
sophya @ 114:
Anyone here besides me about fuckin sick of Alaska?
Ice Road truckers. Tougher In Alaska...Can't watch the damn history channel without some fat guy with a beard talkin about Alaaaaska!
P.D. @ 111:
A woman's "right to choose" is the issue at biggest stake here. Palin clearly does not represent the majority of contemporary american women. Who was the genius who made this statement: "If men became pregnant and delivered babies, abortion would have been legal a hundred years ago!". I rest my case. Palin will take women's rights back one hundred years. Women have fought too long and too hard to have this happen. One of her main platforms will be the reversal of Roe V. Wade. If this happens, no woman will have a life - not to mention unequal pay for the same work. Palin's philosophy is regressive to women. Be not fooled by this woman who chooses to use her children as "political pawns" on Day one. Be not fooled.
Aw, crap... I don't know how to work the "link" tab... You'll have to cut and paste.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-harris3-2008sep03,0,5745350.story
StirFry @ 119:
I wouldn't underestimate women to this extent. I think once women really comprehend what she is all about (and it's not positive for women), they will reject her. It goes without saying that once Hillary hits the trail and begins tackling her on their amazing differences, it will become a case of "palin who?".
it appears as though the repubic party has very little concern about their "country before party" candidates gamble on america's future.
Rand @ 48:
Pussy? PUSSY?!?!
Gooo gooo!!
Gaaah, gaaah!!
Well, I will say it's refreshing and entertaining that the Internet is accessible to participants of all ages. The last time I heard anyone called a pussy, I think I was in 4th grade. Now who was my 4th grade teacher? Was it Mrs. Dodd? 1968... Or was it Sister Lorenzo? Hmmmmm...
sophya @ 126:
Yep. And I've covered this issue in some detail.
I think McCain shot himself in the foot with this nomination because it is so out in left field. If he'd chosen any of the true frontrunners, this would've been a serious campaign AND the media wouldn't have been out for blood.
Now they're sharks.
Thank you, Senator McCain. I expect the media, especially your former friends in the MSM, will dig and dig until they find paydirt.
And about that catchy "Country First" slogan that is being seen and heard lots at this GOP convention.
Scratch Country. Make it "Corporations First". This would be closer to the truth of things in real GOP World.
All any american woman has to do is to walk in Palin's shoes (CFMN pumps as it were) - and ask themselves this question: "If your unwed daughter was 5 months pregnant would you make a public spectacle of her by choice in an attempt to use all of your children as "political pawns"?? And, then when you choose to make them media darlings and political pawns, do you then cry "foul" when the media realizes that they're "fair game" because you've made them so? Unfortunately, this call by her was inconsiderate and lacked total empathy in the first place and then crying foul is soooooooo what males consider to be typically "whining female" that this alone sets the women's rights movement back decades. How many of you have worked in an office where a woman makes salacious comments and then cries foul when a man reacts to them? It's the old female double standard in full flagrantia.
But all of the repugs are swearing Palin was fully vetted! Even Chuck Grassley who is probably one of the only repugs I would trust. Not any more! How can they say she was fully vetted when mcshame only talked to her two times! How can these people look us in the face and tell this lie over and over and over? But they have had so much practice telling us lies it must come easily now. When one of the heads of the RNC can't even get her name right something is terribly wrong. But I am sure Palin will do a super job tonight. Even if she should stumble, fall flat on her face, the repugs would say she did a great job. We are so screwed. We all know how the VP debates will turn out. Biden will be damned if he says anything a little critical of Palin and he will be damned if he holds back. Another Rev. Warren fiasco.
So, of course the MSM is going to pay no attention to this, which, if it had happened to the Democrats, would have all but sunk Obama's Presidential bid.
My, there are so many double standards I can barely see straight.
By the way, I think Noam Chomsky would make a great Secretary of State under any Administration. Imagine someone as brilliant as Kissinger (he was a SOB, but I don't think that it's debatable that the man had an incredible mind; unfortunately coupled with the morals of a shark) with a Progressive streak a mile wide.
And I still would consider making Edwards Attorney General, if that were my decision to make because as long as he wasn't screwing children or puppies (or any animals for that matter) I am not entirely sure what that has to do with his ability to do a totally unrelated task effectively.
Moggy @ 127:
You did it.
If you want a word or sentence to be the link. Drag your cursor across that word or sentence to shade it. Then click on the link button. Paste the address in the slot there and hit okay. If you want to see if it worked correctly, hit the preview button and then right click on your link, choose "open in a new window", and if your desired site shows up, you are good to go. Then hit submit comment and you're all set.
BobbyG @ 131:
BobbyG - thanks for the link. I'll be a regular visitor there. The subliminal stuff underpinning this choice is incredible and will remove women's rights. That's why it was so essential to parade her children as political pawns so "pimp" women everywhere into thinking that she was "on their side" when clearly, Palin is not. This we now know.
"the question is no longer whether or not Sarah Palin is ready to be VP; it’s whether or not John McCain has the temperament and judgment to be President"
And, this is exactly why I made the decision, a while back, that I'll be voting for Obama. Even before this VP decision and revelations about Palin's lack of experience/understanding to be at the top of an administration, McCain demonstrated his utter lack of judgment and blatant ambition by cozying up to Bush.
He was a guy who was utterly destroyed/humiliated by Bush/Rove in 2000, and a person who did speak out against the Bush folks and some of their policies. But once he saw an opening to be president, he abandoned his judgment and his honor and reverted back to his "damn it, full-speed ahead" mode.
Palin's judgment - or, lack of it - has been clearly demonstrated in just the little bit we've been able to learn about her in the past few days. And, every time there's some new information, it only gets worse.
It makes me nervous just thinking that we could have 2 folks (fools) like McCain and Palin in charge.
Pari @132
"I think McCain shot himself in the foot with this nomination because it is so out in left field. If he’d chosen any of the true frontrunners, this would’ve been a serious campaign AND the media wouldn’t have been out for blood.
Now they’re sharks.
Thank you, Senator McCain. I expect the media, especially your former friends in the MSM, will dig and dig until they find paydirt"
thank you john mccain for helping the media finally do their job.
StirFry @ 119:
Then hit the bar or bingo parlor to watch their choice on TV.
Even MICHAEL SAVAGE is apoplectic:
liberAL @ 135:
This is precisely the juncture where people's careers come to a screeching halt and are ended. Once they lie through their teeth to tote a party line, their credibility is lost. From what's I've seen over the past week, I'd say that half of the media anchors and most of the GOP will no longer warrant the respect of the people. I can't believe they've become so amazingly transparently pimps for the party. It's a good thing overall for the charlatans to be "outed". This is the most amazing "outing of the media" we will ever see in this country. Boycotting of the media and newspapers is taking place throughout the country right now. The people are tired of being lied to and pimped by these coy, sycophantic media whores. There has been a double standard of treatment by the media of Obama and McSame from the outset. Sure, they feel sorry for him since he's handicapped (brain dead) but does that give them creative license to lie and delude the public......reminds me of how they lied and deluded us in the run up to the Iraq war, doesn't it? It's time for the people to hold our journalists and whoring media's feet to the fire - to hold them accountable to their spin - to hold them accountable for their outright lies. It's time to boycott the media outlets who continue to lie and spew propaganda which we know to be untrue. It's time to boycott their advertisers who support this hideous level of corrupt programming. It's time for the people to take back the reins of their country. After all, we pay the salaries of our elected officials who lie and cheat and rub our faces in it with their media puppets. It's time, folks! In actuality, it's Overtime!
And, be prepared and unfooled when Palin rolls into the next debate because, just as Warren's credibility was shattered by his lie about McCain being in a "cone of silence" (now the Reverend's future will be in a cone of silence, too) we KNOW without a doubt that Palin will be given the questions in advance. That is the only way she can come up with answers to any of it. And, what's more, we shouldn't expect her to be able to unless she is some "closet genius" or something. She's a totally inexperienced woman from the boonies who knows nothing about national security, foreign relations, the machinations of congress and legislation, and the list goes on....There is no way she CAN know it because she's never seen it.
sophya @ 143:
And Katie Couric's interview of McSame on her network being scrubbed of McCain's gaffes??? What the hell's up with that? Overt propagandizing? Couric deserves for her career to tank as does her network for deluding the public. Do you think in your wildest dreams that they would do the same for Obama? How do you think the people would react if they did? Ditch these media whores and discard them from your life entirely. They're unworthy of coming into our households. They're lowlife, lying sycophants.
Palin was a really bad pick. People want to say that her kids are off limits. but if she can't control her teen daughter how can she control the US once mCAIN dies. and for you all who just gasp, shit happens and old people die. get over it.
Is there some way we can make palin's name like Putin, like they're doing with Osama/Obama?
carmen @ 146:
Ya wanna help me gasp?
Liberal AND Proud @ 65:
You might think that, because you're looking for some kind of rational explaination for what they do, but i don't think they have any intention of losing. If they lose the presidency, plus the house and senate, they know that a lot of sealed records will be opened, and there will be a slew of prosecutions.
This scares the piss out of the repugs and they're going to fight like a cornered rat to make sure the dems lose.
Moggy @ 127:
Americans have an unhealthy desire to see average people promoted to positions of great authority. No one wants an average neurosurgeon or even an average carpenter, but when it comes time to vest a man or woman with more power and responsibility than any person has held in human history, Americans say they want a regular guy, someone just like themselves. President Bush kept his edge on the "Who would you like to have a beer with?" poll question in 2004, and won reelection.
So we've gone from a president "we'd like to have a beer with" to, for the straight males of the electorate, a VP we want to f*ck...
Just give me the pics in a magazine and let me "handle" it myself. (Counts to ten...) There. Done! See, I don't need to see her in the WH for it to have a "happy ending."
No get the hell off my TV!!
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