Fred Dalton Thompson At The RNC: Palin's Great, Biden's a Partier...and Did You Know McCain's A POW?
Oy. 26 minutes, 72 throat clearings (phlegm count courtesy of Keith Olbermann) and a whole lotta yawns. But what can you expect when the theme of last night's RNC was "Service: The Courage and Service of John McCain"? Really? That's the best they could come up with?
Freddie of Hollywood hit all the expected points, calling unvetted and scandal-ridden Vice President Sarah Palin a "breath of fresh air." Honestly, scandals and lack of transparency? Sounds like just more of the Bush administration, but maybe that's just me. There were two things that caught my attention, though. One was a really inappropriate slam against Biden:
Some Washington pundits and media big shots are in a frenzy over the selection of a woman who has actually governed rather than just talked a good game on the Sunday talk shows and hit the Washington cocktail circuit. Well, give me a tough Alaskan Governor who has taken on the political establishment in the largest state in the Union - and won - over the beltway business-as-usual crowd any day of the week.
Does that sound to you like Thompson is suggesting that Biden is a DC Partier? Biden, the man, who by all account, takes the train to and from DC to Delaware to be with his family each night? You stay classy, Fred. Besides, we all know what an "outsider" Palin is turning out to be.
But with the convention theme centering around John McCain's service, it was inevitable that McCain's time as a POW would be discussed, in painstaking detail. But Fred let something slip, perhaps unintentionally, that I think Dems should run with: (h/t Mark Nickolas)
Now, being a POW certainly doesn't qualify anyone to be President.
But it does reveal character.
Um...wasn't that pretty much EXACTLY what the GOP went after Wes Clark for saying?
Transcripts available at The Corner at the National Review
Plus what about all the things mccain has done that show his bad character. The kind of left out affairs, divorce, ketting 5 changing just about ever stance he's taken to panedr to the right for this election etc.
I am not watching the Republicans but you have to give them credit. Friday many were speaking honestly regarding the poor choice of V.P. and my Monday they were back on the train making Palin sound better than anyone. Amazing ! I guess they took off their "American" hats and put back on their "Rublican" hats!
Tells me not many can think for themselves. The one thing I can do is see when someone will not work regardless of party leanings.
It IS exactly what Wes Clark said, almost word for word. I also think it's funny that F o H referred to Alaska as the largest state in the union, for a couple of reasons. If Alaska were a city instead of a state, it'd be the 19th or 20th most populous city, with about as many inhabitants as Memphis, TN or Charlotte, NC. Also, there was a joke going around at one time about some Texan bragging that Texas was the largest state; somebody said, "What about Alaska?" The Texan replied, "Hell, if you thawed it out it wouldn't be no bigger than New Jersey."
Fred never fails to disappoint....talk about a guy who needs a script!
The Reptilian hypocrisy is palpable.
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Thompson: "I stand here tonight to endorse the only man in the Republican party older and crazier than I am."
I watched a small portion of the retarded convention. A friend of mine told me if I got a chance to look when they panned the cameras around the hall. When they panned the hall at the Dems convention you saw all types of people, black , white, brown, people of mideastern decent chinese all different types of people.
When the cameras panned at the retarded convention all you could see were old white men and women, I will admit that I did not watch much of it but when they panned I did not see one black face, not one brown face, very few young people, mostly old white people with gray hair. No wonder the party is falling apart. It's run by people that speen all their time lying and trying to make other people look bad. Pay attention you will see that the GOP is nothing but the party of greed, ignorance, selfishness, a total lack of morality, the party looks like a bunch of rich white fools. Vote republican if you hate America!
She's creationist, dominionist, secessionist, and a red herring to make forget about the old man on top of the ticket and where he stands (or the zealots tell him to stand) on the issues. Enough said.
um,, being a POW doesn't reveal character, it just reveals that you were unfortunate.
You should have given a warning with the link........."Dems should run with it." I know, I know, the National Review link was right below it, but WHO KNEW.
I find it offensive to get suckered into going to any right wing related site. THANKS A LOT..........
I caught the POW part of Hollywood Fred's speech on C-SPAN this morning. I don't know which was worse - the dramatic... Kirk-like... pausing... that Freddy used to tell Grandpa's POW story, or the cuts to crowd members tearing up and sniffling while he spoke... so... dramatically.
In retrospect, it makes sense - when you're going to tell THE GREATEST POW STORY EVERY TOLD, be sure to use the dude who sank the entire Soviet naval fleet in the that movie with James Earl Jones. He's a very good storyteller. You can tell he's had actin' lessons...
What a farce.
Freddy is true comedy.
McSame/Failin 2008 B.C.
Didn't freddy-boy get a bruise on his forehead when he fell asleep at his mike?
What's all the hubbub...??
Sorry, Freddie, but you got that meme wrong too. Being a POW doesn't confirm character, because it isn't a voluntary act. It's one's behavior while a POW that confirms character. As I understand it, McCain had some serious issues in that regard.
Wasn't fred thompson only in the senate 6-7 years before he was running for the presidency (okay loping/ambling)?
Before that he was an actor?
Do these people think that if they just close their eyes, wish hard enough, and tap their heels together they pull the country all the way back to the days of prohibition and chastity and smoke-belching factories their daddy owned??
Kurt Vonnegut was a POW also. He went on to point out the horrors of war instead of looking for more war. Judgement ?
It IS exactly what Wes Clark said, almost word for word. I also think it’s funny that F o H referred to Alaska as the largest state in the union, for a couple of reasons. If Alaska were a city instead of a state, it’d be the 19th or 20th most populous city, with about as many inhabitants as Memphis, TN or Charlotte, NC. Also, there was a joke going around at one time about some Texan bragging that Texas was the largest state; somebody said, “What about Alaska?” The Texan replied, “Hell, if you thawed it out it wouldn’t be no bigger than New Jersey.”
Monmouth COUNTY in New Jersey has almost as many people living in it than there are in Alaska.
I just had some nightmarish thoughts:
1. Republicans....service to your country, service to something higher than oneself
2. Sarah Palin....commander-in-chief of the Alaskan national guard
3. Military very depleted
4. Build up of U.S. aircraft carriers in Gulf Region
5. Cheney is in Azerbaijan this morning
6. Alaska is close to Russia
Where the hell are we going to get enough troops to attack Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and, what the heck, let's throw in Syria???
Start a military draft, put Palin in charge of the military, attack Iran, sneak into Russia through the back door, and maybe not all in that order.
We're doomed.
My contempt grew at the blatant war mongering I watched just short of sacrificing Bristol's baby live then stoning Bristol like the old bible calls for.
The Navy Seal story was the most vomit inducing moment I watched. The guy followed orders unquestionably and showed humanity by throwing himself on a grenade to save his buddies. No mention of the illegal, immoral,corporate profit driven ( blood money,they used to call it) war and the murder of millions of innocent civilians from the business end of the republician war machine. How many innocents are enough to these scum, who are lead by a baby murdering war criminal who dropped bombs againest people armed with rifles and other small arms. Quite a MAN, wait till you hear his BS on the sanctity of human life. Get out the barf bags.
If freddy-boy was the party's nominee here's his vp pick:
http://img.timeinc.net/time/daily/2007/0706/droopy_dog.jpg
Fred has those senior moments sometimes. Palin governed the largest State in the Union next will hear Sarah was the first person on the moon. This is really getting silly for such a serious matter.
Everyone on Morning Joe agrees that Thompson's speech was great!? And everyone also sounds desparate to make the repugs out to be something they are not. Even Chuck Todd. Just whose side is he on anyway. Sometimes it is hard to tell. And Harold Ford, just what are his qualifications to be on TV every day? When did he become such an expert? Mika especially got bit by the giggle bug this morning. Sometimes she does a good job but not when Joe is there; then she is like a school girl fawning over the HS football hero. They all are in love with Palin. They think she is the salvation of the repug party. Time will tell. But unless she trips up tonight everybody will be talking tomorrow about what a wonderful person she is, what a wonderful speech, and she is the girl!!!
21 General Jack D. Ripper
Where the hell are we going to get enough troops to attack Iran, Pakistan, Russia, and, what the heck, let’s throw in Syria???
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They'll send Civil War Recreationists to Georgia
And Brownie troops to the rest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcNqoPAlGk8
It's funny how Liberal Democrats actually have been hood winked by Obama. The Chicago Cub fans loved Sammy Sosa, until they found out he was a fraud! Open your eyes Democrats, before it's too late.
Carbama '08
Jimmy Carter's 2nd Term.......Finally!
I didn't watch any of this stuff last night so I have a question. Did one of the speakers actually say that Palin could not only shoot and kill a moose but that she could field dress it too? I heard this said on Morning Joe, but I don't know if they were kidding about someone saying it or not.
“Now being a POW certainly doesn’t qualify anyone to be President.
But it does reveal character.
This is the kind of character that civilizations from the beginning of history have sought in their leaders.”
Ahhhh--- So that’s what we’re doing in Guantanamo, and all those CIA Black Ops prisons. That’s what we were doing at Abu Ghraib. We’re building the great future leadership of the evil-doers.
This really will be the war without end.......
Fred's speech was definitely well constructed -- first creating simpathy for the main character (JMc) and then making an argument for him to be the "hero" that will save America.
I definitely had a lot of simpathy for McCain after the speech... however, it actually made me more concerned about his judgement. I think he is a more fragile individual than I first thought. He's an old warrior, broken and battered and no longer able to take the battlefield or direct it.
The fact that he selected "Bristol Baby Grandmama" as VP is evidence of his poor judgement.
The Fundies should read thier own Bibles in casting their lots with these "leaders":
1 Timothy 3:1-7 (King James Version)
ysbaddaden @ 17:
Actually, it was Senate, then acting, then running with spectacular unsuccess for the presidency.
But what nerve. Here's Sen. Biden, taking the train home EVERY NIGHT to see his kids, as opposed to Sarah Palin, willing to abandon her infant son with Down syndrome and pregnant teen daughter who desperately needs her (the baby daddy doesn't seem very responsible or stable) to campaign for the veep slot. Thompson is in the GOP mold, lying about Biden and expecting the rest of us to buy his lies. And the true believers are only too willing to be hoodwinked by their disintegrating party by frauds like "I was a POW!" McSame and "I am a great mother!" (not) Palin.
As to whether Thompson is suggesting that Biden is a drinker (which is what your headline seems to say) by referring to the "cocktail circuit," no, that comment does not suggest that. "Cocktails" may sound sinful to some, but I don't think it carries the connotations you're drawing from it, particularly when we're talking about a "circuit," i.e., Georgetown. which emphasizes talk, chatter, blather.
If you mean, on the other hand, that Thompson's scriptwriters are suggesting that Biden is an effete liberal who talks ad nauseam, then you're closer. That's the line they've been using against Obama, with the added detail that Biden is obviously someone fond of talking who comes off as a lightweight in some cases. Part of it is true--Biden is a talker, he is gaffe-prone and he is comfortable within the political establishment--while the rest is false.
Why worry about the difference? Because you need to deal with the attacks the other side is making, not the ones you're afraid they are making or might make or someone listening to Fred Thompson might think that they are making or. . . .
Also, can we retire the "You stay classy" line? Maybe it's my own fault for reading too many blog entries about the McCain campaign, but I think this one has been killed off by overuse, both in terms of absolute volume and by being applied to small potatoes comments from the other side that just don't merit the mild outrage/annoyance that the phrase is supposed to convey. We're going to see a lot worse in the next few months (Eskew's on board, after all) so let's not tire ourselves out worrying about this sort of chickensh*t convention talk.
I really enjoyed Thompson saying Obama was the most inexperienced candidate for president in history. Does he KNOW that's a complete lie? Does he even care that he's deliberately lying? Oh, wait, this is the GOP where lies are facts and facts are lies!
Run these people out of town in November!
Question for the RNC:
WHERE ARE THE ISSUES?!
I'll I've heard so far is a bunch of bloviating about the rights of the unborn and fish tales about heroism and "experience". Where is the economy? Where is foreign policy? Where are their plans for health care, education, and the environment? The most surprising absence is energy policy, since they've been cramming the whole drill here/drill now BS down our throats all summer long.
Looks like the C&L thread yesterday was right. After spending the summer floating trial balloons on foreign policy, energy, and the economy, and having them shot down, the GOP has gone back to the same old strategy of personal politics.
Remember how the MSM was screaming bloody murder about the lack of detail on the issues during the DNC? Let's all hold our breath and wait for the gasps of horror that I'm suuuuure will come this week.
I just googled the story about feild dressing a moose and Thompson said this:
"And I can say without fear of contradiction that she is the only nominee in the history of either party who knows how to properly field dress a moose ... with the possible exception of Teddy Roosevelt," Mr. Thompson told the delighted delegates."
Now that's what we all look for in a future possible presidential candidate, isn't it?
The extremely boring celebrity Senator from the black lagoon speaking up for another sorry Republican old white man who helped put this Nation in its present shitty state. What sad group of corpses.
Here's the guy in charge of freddie-boy's white house run.
He's the one in the closet.
Not sure who the guy in the hat is
Probably darth chaney
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNDaifCMAdI&feature=related
God sent The 72 phlegms during Fred's speach! Praise Jesus!
Freddie Thompson's career is now in the commode. He did his measured best to attempt to put lipstick on a pig and it didn't work. All of those phlegm clearings were indicative of an individual about to vomit. He damn near choked on his words. These grown men who supposedly once had a brain have to be ashamed of themselves - for pimping themselves and turning into male prostitutes to make John McCain's faux pas of selecting the least qualified individual as his running mate look like something wholesome. Do they realize that their personal credibility is over now? At least Bush didn't pander and attempt to polish a turd. Clearly, the rift between Bush and McCain has widened and Bush has the sense (what does he care now anyway?) to diss Palin completely when asked about her. In that sense, he makes McCain look like an even larger moron.
This is "political theatre" at it's finest. If I were someone whose paycheck depended on my personal credibility as a newscaster or journalist right now, I'd be walking on eggs with the toxicity of the Palin story. I'd be attempting to distance myself from the contagion of the McCain/Palin ticket.
Middle america is listening and watching and, more importantly, "judging" to see precisely who has a backbone in our media any longer. Soon they'll all be labeled as prostitutes if they continue to lie through their teeth.
Your damn right, they're scared of the probability that this uneducated, inexperienced mother who uses her children to boost her own credibility and notoriety will take the helm of this republic. And well they should be. They're already "complicit co-conspirators" in the lies leading up to Iraq and for "misleading the public" (can't wait for those trials brought on by the people!). Do any of these "quasi-journalists" need to now add "selling their soul to the devil" to their resume? I guess if they did, they would be quite in synchrony with Sarah Palin. Secession from the Union? How shameful can she get? Parading her preggo daughter before the media to be torn by the wolves?? Is this what we consider good parenting? If so, we've fallen farther down the rabbit hole than we can imagine in our wildest of nightmares.
No mention that McCain violated the "Code of Conduct" by giving more than his name , rank and serial number and also confessed to being a "war criminal"!
pissed off patricia @ 28:
Yeah, that's what we want in our leaders....Kill, kill, kill! Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran!!!
When, where, and how can I get my gun licenses!!!!
" I'm not an actor, but I pretend to play one on television".
Jake @ 27:
what´s not to love... he voted against the 4th ammendment on fisa and sold us out to the telecoms, voted for the patriot act, which basicly criminalizes decent, as we have seen at both conventions, hasn´t said a word about the broken e-voting machines, is going on bill oy-really´s show and legitimizing that putz, talking like a drunk cowboy at aipac and vfw, wants to escalate in afganistan, etc, etc, etc.... what´s not to like?
I have this gnawing in the pit of my stomach that the Palin gambit may just checkmate the Democrats this November. Read more. http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/09/sugar-and-spice-and-everything-nice.html
james Ratliff @ 8:
All very true. Their party will die out with these elderly white people. Even if--God forbid--we lose this election, the GOP victory will be very short-lived. Within 20 years, Dems will so outnumber repubs that it will almost be embarrassing.
The Best Fucking News Team Ever - Hurricane Gustav Relief
While the Republican leadership races to the Gulf Coast to show their empathy, their delegates are left abandoned in the Xcel Center.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=183780&title=the-b...
When does Vice Presidential candidate Harriet Myers speak? Be sure you wear your ear plugs or at the very least turn down the volume on your TV, that voice can't be good for the ear drums.
Anais @ 31:
There goes Freddie's cred in one fell swoop! I actually do hope that McCain, in his lack of judgment but height of audacity and ego keeps Palin on the ticket. It's doing more harm than good and by the time more slime comes out about how she's governed and was almost recalled (for what one might ask?), McCain's numbers will plummet rapidly.
As for her parenting ability and motherhood skills, they suck - in a nutshell. Using her children as political "props" and ditching a mongoloid child is an appalling sense of abuse in my estimation. We know that there's no way she can accomplish both - and I believe that her choice for motherhood (of 5 no less and another on the way) should indicate her priority or "choice" as it were. There is absolutely NO WAY I'd ever hire this woman to run my business with a suckling infant on her breast, especially one with "special needs". Are you kidding me?
Fred Dalton Thompson and John Sydney McCain, outta touch fancy boys.
Why did they choose Thompson and Lieberman to be speakers? They have much better speakers who are more well known. Why these two? Everybody breathing knew these two would be snoozers last night. Is the Republican convention trying to turn people away from their speeches because they know they have nothing to say?
You know that tonight if Palin doesn't pass out or something, her speech will be talked about tomorrow as being one of the best speeches of the convention. And it probably will be, but compared to what, the most boring speeches in the universe?
Henry @ 32:
I'm glad I didn't watch Thompson. He makes me sick.
But he's implying Biden is a drinker, using referring to the "cocktail circuit?"
Well, Republicans, here's to "Hookers and Blow!"
The fact that Keith Olberman pointed out the "phlegm" count, and the fact that Ms. Belle found it worthy of mention in her latest "report", stands as perfect proof of how immature and idiotic the Left is in this country.
/facepalm
Jake @ 27:
And where the fuck have you been these last eight miserable years? Did Dubya thank your stupid ass yesterday for allowing him to exorcise his hatred for his parents, family, minorities, foreigners, laws, civil/human rights, the Nation's reputation, all while murdering and pillaging from the innocent and helpless all over the God Damn world? If anyone's been "hoodwinked" it's been you, dumbfuck.
I assume the audience was wearing their 'purple heart' bandaids ? No? Why not? They seemed awfully fond of them last time around. Wonder how some of those bloated idiots would feel about such displays now that they're backing the POW candidate? It's all relative when you're a reslug.
liberAL @ 25:
they don't get it.
Radically Moderate @ 42:
Ahnuld, Thompson, Reagan....all the Republican hollywood actors are "B" actors, they're failures in that arena too. they only thing Republicans are really good at is running the country into the ground to enrich their own coffers and those of their well connected cronies.
I have donated a lot of old clothes to the VFW (Veterans of Foreign Ears). I recycle. I have organized a safe trick or treating party for my kids and her friends during Halloween 2 years in a row. So I guess I am qualified to be commander-in-chief.
If McCain wasn't a POW what would they have to talk about?
Irony is:
Fred Thompson, whose national-level political experience consists of being counsel to Nixon during Watergate and a term and a half in the Senate before leaving politics to be a pretend DA on TV, who clearly thought that those experiences qualified HIM to be president, saying that the "celebrity" candidate, Barack Obama, is unqualified for the job.
These guys...you can't make this crap up.
Noel B. @ 57:
Hell, you're overqualified.
I didn't realize that Little Mac and Big Mac were such bad acting military men with lots of demerits. Must be that old maverick spirit.
Thanks Fred the actor.
Pinch me....I must be hallucinating - how any intelligent, educated american can even be having this conversation indicates how trivialized we've made our election process. This has to be some sick joke taking place here. And to see grown men defending an almost-beauty queen who is governing less people than that of the Mayor of Austin, Texas is an unbelievable head scratcher. Then to watch the lockstep fascist media attempt to put lipstick on this pig is even more incredible. Any young person watching this will be driven to the Democratic party just by mere observation.
The larger picture here is that, in McSame's estimation, this is "the best it gets" for the Republicans. This is the more telling aspect of what's taking place. This means that Guiliani, Romney, Thompson, et al are definitely NOT QUALIFIED to even be Vice President - certainly not qualified to be President so they'd better ditch any future plans for politics right here and now. That is, if they believe what they're saying. Of course, being typical Repukes, we know that "if their lips are moving, they're lying" so they will be hoist on their own pitard. Can't have it both ways, boys!
I think it's also telling that McCain feels that a l year governor - whose governorship is roughly the size of Austin, Texas (now that certainly qualifies as Podunkville) is more qualified than any of his colleagues in Congress......and surely any member of the current administration. Maybe he's a maver-dick after all? Maybe he's sending a clear signal to americans that THERE IS NO ONE EVEN REMOTELY AS QUALIFIED AS PALIN IN HIS ENTIRE PARTY.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE MAVERICK MC SAME AT HIS WORD THIS TIME BECAUSE THE IMPLICATIONS AND RAMIFICATIONS OF WHAT HE IS SAYING WILL REACH IT'S TENACLES DEEPLY INTO THE GOP BEFORE ALL IS SAID AND DONE. And, we can be certain now that this level of toxicity will permeate the Republican brand for decades to come.
Rand @ 52:
Would you be implying, perchance, that the loony reichwing actually believes the lies they are spewing? Why do you think an actor like Thompson would be sending mixed signals by clearing his throat? Come on now, you couldn't possibly be born under the same rock in Alaska now, could you?
ALASKA, THE WILD FRONTIER - with a population about the size of Austin, Texas. You've got to be kidding, folks! I don't call this governing - I call this Mayoring.
One thing we should be thankful for is when mcshame is sent to pasture in November we won't have to listen to any more POW and HERO stories! Don't foresee anyone else in the future with those "credentials." Anyway not in my lifetime.
Why can't msnbc put a host on a morning show that does not try to be Fox? If you listen to the conversations on Morning Joe and on Fox there is little and sometimes, no difference. Why not take a chance and see if their morning viewers would like something different, something a little smarter. When both host and hostess say they love Sarah and Biden, WTF watch them?
Wonder what new Palin scandal will surface today? (**rubbing hands**) At least this makes it all exciting in a salacious way. But then again, how can one feel sorry that Palin has chosen to pimp her own family and then cry foul when the people do their own detective work? Cry sexist anyone? This only takes the women's rights movement back a century to do so. This woman is in way over her head but let's all hope and pray that she's too ignorant to realize it and stays in the race. Her rep is tanking the GOP and they know it. I'd love to be a fly on the wall behind the closed doors of the GOP right now.
What did they decide to do with permitting Ron Paul to speak? What about his 1400 delegates? They have every right to be represented at this convention. Nice try thinking that the hurricane would permit them to suspend the rules....nice try. The Ron Paul contingent is certain to embarrass.
Left&Left @ 53:
Exactly, you are proving my point. Ignorance can always be "hoodwinked". Keep drinking the Koolaid. Far Left Liberal Loser.
Carbama '08
I took Thompson's comment about Washington cocktail parties and Sunday talk circuits as meant to compare Palin with Hillary Clinton. But no matter, generic Dems will do. What, Republicans have been known to attend cocktail parties too, not to mention regularly be given the entire hour of Meet the Press to spew brainwashing misinformation on Iraq? I suspect Thompson's trip-up won't be the reason the GOP will be loath to let Palin do the talk shows.
Just love the screen-saver flag waving eternally in the backdrop. Well, okay, I don't and it isn't nearly as well-done as the perpetual flags from 2004. The speakers still are champion slow-talkers, making the compulsory halt after every single sentence to prod applause. Boy, these are going to be a long two days, with no Zel Miller in sight.
pissed off patricia @ 66:
The state of american journalism today is the principle of "the dumbing down of america". Since they feel us to be incapable of formulating our own opinions, they've adopted Goebel's philosophy - "he who controls the message controls the people". What they fail to realize is that fewer people are watching their drivel these days and, essentially, their attempt to spew a disinformation campaign has only enhanced the need for people to do their own homework about the facts. Once you know the facts and then listen to these true "bobbleheads", then you know it's nothing more than fascist propaganda. Tune out, folks. It's bad for your health.
Jake @ 68:
Jake, Troll - what happened?? Did you get booted again from Think Progress? You should be smart enough to realize that you need to change your screen name if you begin trolling other threads. Same ole/same ole.
This troll is the laughingstock of all threads. He lives at home in a corner of the basement with his mommy and has nothing better to do with his life than to sit on blogs all day playing devil's advocate. Sad fact is that he doesn't even have a modicum of intelligent repartee to deliver so he consistently makes a buffoon of himself.
Hey Jake - at least be creative and change your name. Don't feed this troll. He's certifiably insane.
Jake is a bigot, this we can witness from his inarticulate spew. He's also a mysogenist - and you can figure out why quite easily. Just a little biographical info on this troll.
sophya @ 72:
At least he got smart enough to ditch the long lines of caps and symbols. Now that was a dead giveaway and nailed him every time. Just view this troll is sheer comic relief (or tragedy, as the case may be) and don't give him the time of day. He's a power freak because he has little power over his own life.
Ah, the dark, dank, necrotic swelter of the basement has once again made our little troll mute. Such easy prey. Later, buddies!
barkin @ 43:
Carbama '08 must go on O'Reilly's show. It has intelligent voters watching, contrary to your MSNBC joke of a station. If Carbama '08 wins, Olbermans show will be canceled. I guarantee he hopes McCain wins. It's good for HIS ratings.
sophya@62,
I'm concerned that the choice of palin suggests that the ruling party doesn't really give a damn any more. They've all but given up pretending that the election process is still relevant. He who owns the voting machines, wins.
There are some suggesting that she will drop out, this is the strategy, and her replacement is the real vp. The party using the whole mess to garner a sympathy vote and make the next vp look good by comparison.
sophya @ 71:
Please quote my presence in another site. Any site? Please, because you may have me mixed up with someone else.
What's funny about the "Troll" comment, what are you?
Ruthless People @ 47:
Harriet Meirs is now a paid Lobbyist for the Pakistan government.
Laugh as you will at this obviousness, but don't forget, this kinda crap WORKS here... this is the SAME NATION that elected GWB twice (even after his dismal performance in the debates).
sophya @ 73:
Before you go on a typical liberal attack, get your facts straight and who you're attacking. Please tell us what website you know me from? I would love to know.
Radically Moderate @ 78:
Soon Prolife Palin may be back to killing more of God's creatures with her AK-47.
pissed off patricia @ 28:
She is not the only woman who knows how to field dress a moose, elk and or deer. I'm a female liberal hunter with a gun and a knife and knows how to use them.
sophya @ 72:
One other thing we know is Jake is a coward. He won't enlist to go the front lines in Iraq to "support the troops" in his preznit's war. He's a proud member of the 101st fighting keyboardists.
Pay no mind to the old man.
The GOP is now a compilation of grumpy old men, closeted deviants, undersexed, overmedicated trollops who's day has passed. The great supply side shell game has been played out, and revealed as the fallacy it always was and always will be. No amount of huge digitally enhanced American flags, military bands and soldier photos will ever change that fact.
It's over. They know it. The American people have had enough. Personally, I'd like to thank George W. Bush, it was only by his sheer incompetence that all of these facts have finally been revealed to the nation at large.
Let the GOP howl, whine, bitch, moan, cheer, ridicule, lie and cheat...it is what they are best at and they draw comfort from it.
The country is going to be returned to the PEOPLE in November.
ysbaddaden @ 14:
I know I got one when my head hit the keyboard!
"Who is this man?" My god the best the GOP can do is hope to boree us into complacency and miss the election. I think I would rather have heard noun-verb-9/11 than a recounting of GitMo torture techniques inflicted on McCain. Torture us-bad torture them-good. WTF!
It's good to come here and catch the highlights... I have placed an unofficial ban on network, cable news and CSPAN for the rest of the convention in my house in the primetime.
The GOP is full of shit. They know they're full of shit and they don't care — as long as you're buying their shit at a premium price in bulk at Sam's Club.
This convention has allowed me to rediscover the greatness of the Buffy TV series.
Personally, I think it is a 50-50 shot that Palpatine withdraws from the nomination by the end of this month.
She's going to express her desire to be closer to her family, her need to care for her handicapped baby and the stress of the national campaign on her children.
sophya @ 72:
Why am I a bigot? Because I have different views than you?
Unlike you, I know our country needs completely opposite views on most subjects, so we can have debates, which will lead us to progress.
You on the other hand, would want us all the same. Identical personality, Identical appearance, Identical employment, Identical pay no matter how much you work or educate yourself, etc......
Most liberals would eliminate conservatives from this country, which would leads us to a Socialistic State. That is scary.
Did you know that Fred Thompson is the Foghorn Leghorn of the Republican party.
77 Jake Says
What’s funny about the “Troll” comment, what are you?
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Horny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgWQ1erBnMo
Ruthless People @ 83:
Typical liberal name calling.
THE USA are LOSERS @ 79:
The only interview that Palin did since last Friday was with gossip rag People magazine. That's a direct line right into the heart of the bitters (next to Nat'l Enquirer, FoxNews, and Wrestlin). The campaign is working it this way.
Two things about Fred's speech:
1) He talks about John McCain's treatment in Hanoi like its torture or something. Remember Fred, your President said that the things that happened to John McCain aren't torture. Maybe they used to be but not anymore.
2) He called Sen. Obama the most liberal democrat in the senate. er, Wrong!
Obama is more the centrist than the liberal. If you would take the time to check facts, you wouldn't be a Republican.
kind of a shame they had to wake him from his nap.
If I can give credit to repugs for one thing, it's the prevalence of the trophy wife. McKeatingFive's wife is also smart, she has the pre-nup.
Fred Thompson's logic, rational thinking skills, demeanor, attitude and open-mouth-insert-foot mentality reminds me of Archie Bunker!
sophya @ 72:
I used to go to a topless mysogenist named Jackie for my myssoges.
My TV isn't equipped with Phlegm-Mumble caption, so I missed what Fred Zombie said last night.
surfjac @ 93:
Most liberal: Carbama '08
Get your facts straight.
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/01/national_journal_obama_...
Hmmm . . .
Whoever is the Dem for President is the "most Liberal" according to the National Review.
How convenient. How contrived.
Even their editor says this information is misued by the GOP and media. Continue your fact checking, Jake.
(ahhmm) (ahem), I thought (ahem) that Fred Dal(ahem)ton (ahem) was (ahem) (ahem) talking about (ahem) O(ahem)bama, (ahem) not (ahem) Biden.
I thought it was a pretty good speech and, despite the throat clearings (evidence of his poor health and shame on all of you for mocking it), very well delivered. You people just see what you want to see.
"Most liberals want to eliminate conservatives from this country????"
"Typical liberal name calling?????"
Excuse me, ever hear of Limbaugh, Colter, Malkin, Idiots, Haters, Name-callers
"being a POW certainly doesn’t qualify anyone to be President"
absolutely, yup yup!
Ian,
I saw a guy trying to defend the indefensible, and purposfully ignoring the obvious.
ktpinnacle @ 99:
Even if he isn't "The Most Liberal", he is far left. What's the difference if he is in the top 10 most liberal Senators or the most? Out of the votes recorded by the National Review, he voted 65 out 66 on the liberal side. So what are you getting at? You should be saying, so what? We're proud that we are trying to elect The Most Liberal Senator. Stand tall and be proud. He is just too extreme for me.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm
My favorite was "boils the size of baseballs under his arms." Reveals character.
And if you want "extreme," just wait until you get a gander at Sarah Palin's political views. Wait until you see what the forced love of right wing KKKristianists can do for America.
Pathetic.
They settled on the best they had to offer. That pretty much says it all.
thompson, 9ui11iani, romney, huckabee, etc, etc. A collection of real losers.
And now romney says he'll run again if mcAnciet loses (or dies of old age first). Oh whoa is me...the neocon/fascist party is dying by their own hand. How grateful the nation will be.
Jake @ 91:
This from the "Carbama '08" guy.
General Jack D. Ripper @ 102:
Yes, typical liberal name calling. In your eyes, someone is an idiot or hater, if they have different views. I don't believe you're an idiot, just because you're on the other side. I just don't believe what you believe.
The liberal way is the name calling. Just read comments on the Internet.
Jake @ 105
Is he just like Bush or is he the most liberal Senator? Pick a lane.
By the way, do you wear bandaids?
Jake @ 68:
Thrillhouse @ 108:
Yes it is from the Carbama '08 guy. I just think it's funny. There isn't hate there like all the people who say McBush, McSame, etc......It's actually making fun of those people, because they can't say anything about the Carbama name.
Well, David Brooks did say they were going to "ram the POW experience down their throars"
Jake @ 91:
Jake @ 68: "Far left Liberal Loser". Nice to know that Jake doesn't resort to typical conservative name calling.
StirFry @ 110:
No, but cutting your arm off doesn't solve the problem.
solid @ 114:
Did you read what that guy said to me? Oh yeah, you just pick what fits your agenda.
Jake @ 88:
Go on then, what's scary about a socialistic state? You haven't got a fucking clue. It's "scary" because you were told so by the plutocrats. Sure, it's scary for them, they'd have to pay more taxes, and they don't want that. I remember Leona Helmsley saying that only the little people should have to pay taxes.
Here's how it works, you pay taxes to the government, in return, you get roads, a fire department, a police department, decent education, health coverage, all the things "communities" need.
Here's how it works in the USA, you pay taxes to the government and you're on your own, but we'll keep your taxes, thanks very much.
Jake @ 112:
Yeah, I see your point now. There's a lot less hate behind making a guy's name sound like "car bomber" than there is behind making a guy's name sound like he'll bring more of the same policies that people around here have opposed for the last eight years. I'm sorry if I'm misinterpreting your clever word play if that's not what you were going for. I might not get it, or it might be really stupid.
And yes, I did read what that guy said about you. He said you're willing to support military action when you aren't willing to actually put yourself at risk by enlisting. Unless you don't support the military action and/or you are enlisted (or have a valid reason why you can't enlist), he's got a point. If you are enlisted, in all sincerity (there's a time for teasing and this isn't it) I hope you stay safe.
Fred sez it is the largest state in the union? It has 670,000 residents. Like a medium sized city, with a smaller police force.
Regarding the "cocktail circuit" remark. We need a good, friendly interview on what Joe Biden does during his commute. How lucky he is to have a train, what his staffers prepare for the trip, how heavy the breifcase is, his relationship with the conductors and fellow passengers, how cell phones have changed his work patterns, how his family greets him at the door. I'd suggest Rachel Maddow or Terry Gross.
Lots of people identify with long commutes, extended work days and the love of being home after a long day.
Phylter @ 117:
Believe me, I get it. Do you?
In Thompson's speech last night, he made a comment about taxes. How Obama only wants to tax the wealthy and businesses. So if you work for a large or small business, who do you think is really getting taxed? Anyone that is working for these businesses. Please wake up. And please, I know where tax revenue goes, it doesn't mean I have to be raked over the coals, so that the welfare program can continue to feed a huge problem in this country.
You need to wake up dude.
Carbama '08
Slogan should be: "Let's Tax the American Dream....why not 40%"
Since you don't mind paying taxes, why don't you give up 40% of your salary? Would you?
Did he just say, "Jobless America" at the end of his speech?
Thrillhouse @ 118:
You read the wrong thread. Go to 111 for a snippet. That guy is a piece of work.
I only saw a little snppet of Thompson last night but he looked bored, sounded bored and was stumbling over his words.
i didnt hear any mention of "celebrity" in the speaches...perhaps it's because Ms. Palin's family seems to more closely resemble Britney than anything near Obama
"carbama"? what does that even mean? it's sort of sad that the conservatives have discovered "humor" so late in the game. i guess that's where you go when you got nothing. I just wish they would at least be amusing.
Jake @ 88:
Jake, just a question. Are you going to join up and fight McCain's wars if he wins the presidency?
Patrick @ 126:
Carbama '08
Carter Obama
Carters 2nd Term.....Finally.
Guess we can change it to:
Obarter '08
VietVet67 @ 127:
there's no need to fight wars anymore. you buy a flag and put a yellow ribbon on your car. someone else fights. that's why McCain was against the GI bill...we dont give benefits to humvees why would we give them to bullet stoppers?
Liberal AND Proud @ 84:
Hey! I'm a grumpy old man and I have never voted for Dumbya. I leave that up to the thirty-something doughy twerps who blog from mommy's basement.
Gobama '08! Even if I did want Kucinich/Chomsky...
Jake @ 128:
VietVet67 @ 127:
Yes I would. If my son or daughter joined any of the Armed Forces I would support them too. I would always worry, but support their decision.
Do you guys realize that if we do not take the fight to the terrorist, they will bring it back to us.....again.
Jake @ 98:
Did anyone witness the General Chiefs-of-Staff running out of the Pentagon in complete horror? Or did they just nervously sit around a table and chuckle how George W. Bush and John McCain have royally fucked up this country?
Jake @ 132:
So, let me get this straight, you're against terrorism, but you're not in Iraq defending us, so the person that said you were a keyboard kombatant was right, but you resort to name calling. Isn't that sort of like asking what Sarah Palin's experience is and being told that Obama is just an uppity nigger who should be lynched for even thinking he could tell whites what to do? (actual quote from "God-loving" Mormon friend, most loving state in the union!)
Jake @ 128:
That is soooo funny Jake. You should go on the road doing stand up....with Fred Thompson. I've got the perfect name for you guys act: "The night of the living dead". CeeYa, troll.
John Hall @ 20:
Biden on the cocktail circuit?? He doesn't drink..See 60 minutes interview last Sunday. No wonder I cannot stand ole Fred...
If POW McCain accidentally ends up as our POW president, we will all become POWs.
Simon White-Thatch Potentloins @ 45:
Why do you think the GOP is so hell bent on prolife, no contraception and abstinence? They know abstinence doesn't work. They know teenagers will have sex. The African-American community frowns on abortion as does the Hispanic. They're scared of the fact that they will be the minority...
My GOD his speech was the epitome of dull.
Russo @ 133:
"hit the Washington cocktail circuit" - didn't Fredrick of Hollywood have a reputation of leaving the senate before lunch and spending the day at various pubs and resturants drinking?
As my young nephew says "He who smelt it, delt it."
If you're going to throw the elitist argument around, what were you doing in Hollywood, dickbag? After all, Hollywood and all its "liberal permissiveness" is one of the biggest bogeymen for whining conservatives.
This playing the POW card is really starting to get ridiculous. OK, so Granpa McBush was a POW...yeah him and six hundred others at the time that performed just as well. Check out a video at YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWEDMLmjKk
Uhhh
Was it the Packers... or the Steelers??
Did anyone else feel a little frightened when Fred Thompson said this last night?
America needs a President who understands the nature of the world we live in. A President who feels no need to apologize for the United States of America.
Jake @ 132:
Last I heard the Armed Forces have a lot of openings. Have you ever worn the uniform, Jake?
Left&Left @ 135:
You're a maggot. What's the equivalent of a troll on the left? Or do you actually believe trolls are only on the right? Maggot.
Hollywood Fred referred to Obama as (paraphrasing) as the most liberal and inexperienced candidate ever to run for President. Fred also worries about having a Supreme Court "lost to liberalism" for a generation. There they go again, making "liberal" a dirty word. Hey! For decades, those nasty liberals have created most of the progress in America.
I also have a problem with the assumption that high-level political experience is the only experience that matters ("executive experience" factor). George W. Bush had "executive experience" before he ran for President, and look at what a screw-up he turned out to be.
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