O'Reilly treats Obama with no respect on the Factor
By John Amato Thursday Sep 04, 2008 11:45am
I just started watching the first part of BillO's series of interviews with Obama and I have to say that Bill attacks Obama with a mean spirited and nasty viciousness that he has never used against McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest of the administration that he feels are in good standing. It was sickening to watch him interrupt Obama with a scowl on his face every time Barack tries to finish a point he was trying to make.
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I thought it was a bad idea to go on with Bill because O'Reilly would never have respected the position that Obama holds as he runs for President. Instead of treating him like the Democratic nominee, he treats him like he has a vendetta against him. Search his interviews with Bush and McCain and see how he respects them. That respect was lacking...
It's fine to ask what the "Factor Free" considers tough questions, but O'Reilly tries to make guests that are threatening to him and Republicans look weak next to his huge ego and he's good at that. I thought Obama held his own against this Republican hypocrite, but make no mistake about it, BillO is very good at what he does---especially when he had Obama in his sights. I imagine in the next segment Bill will be bashing left wing bloggers and MoveOn furiously because he fears us also, but not as much as Obama. Barack represents the changing of the guard that we so desperately need if we're going to help our country. The new Jobless Report was staggering this morning (5 year high) and McCain will only<> increase these figures.
After the segment was over---he had a little nasty grin on his face as he berated Jane Hall when she tried to analyze Bill's question about if she bought the idea that Obama was a terror warrior. You see to Bill, Obama has to scream and jump up and down like Republicans do about terrorism instead of actually doing something about protecting America. O'Reilly's into the words instead of the actions. After he cut off Hall and tried to embarrass her, he moved over to winger Monica Crowley and asked is she thought Obama was a terror warrior and the Republican shill gave Bill the answer he wanted. She said "no " and O'Reilly laughing approved. This is the way he willproceed for the next few days. He'll applaud Obama for coming on and then do the best he can to help McCain and the tired and ineffective conservative movement.
The Republican Party has failed miserably on national security and McCain wants to use the same Bush policies in the extreme, but he talks tough so that's fine with Billy. Let's ask BO if Bush is a terror warrior and how did he do? He failed horribly and so has the Republican Party, but Bill needs to protect his own.
(There's plenty here to talk about in this clip. I'm exhausted from Convention week so get to it in the comment section because I missed a lot.)
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Obama was on O'Reilly, now Palin needs to go on Olbermann
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Pete&Pete @ 1:
Bingo!! She doesn't have the brass ones to do that. Neither does McCain.
So much for "Baracuda" Palin doesn't even have the guts to go on FNS and get lobbed softballs from Chris Wallace!!!!
If and I say if Obama is elected these same assholes that think Bush should be respected because he is the President, will turn right around and say that Obama diminishes the office and they have no repect for him.
You deserve a break John. Go to a bar, get drunk, make a sexual mistake, enjoy yourself! You deserve it.
Pete&Pete @ 1:
Sorry, they are the Teflon party. Nothing seems to stick to them.
I thought it was a bad idea to go on with Bill...
You are correct. O'Reilly is a bullying, anti-intellectual smear merchant. I can see the next RNC ad:
[voiceover]:
"Barak Obama voted against the Surge to help our troops win in Iraq...Now he says just the opposite."
[run O'Reilly clip]
Obama: "..Yes, the surge was a success, even beyond our wildest dreams..."
[voiceover]
"So, Obama does one thing and says another...is this the kind of leadership America needs?"
"I'm John McCain, and I approved this message."
Very risky move by Obama, but so far so good in my opinion. He definitely held his own and didn't let the interrupting cow hold him back.
I would really like to see the Factor ratings during the Obama segments.
With McCain shielding Palin from any media questioning, this has to help show that Obama is not afraid to show his true colors. And that he has the balls to face BO in the den.
cray86 @ 6:
We are all getting tired. The authoritarians in this country are turning us into vile ugly people just like them. I actually have thoughts were I wish they would all just be raptured away to hell. There is no way any of those fuckers are ever getting into heaven.
While Bill is clearly in then republican tank, his questioning here was no more or less agressive then any interview on 60 minutes and was, in fact, more like what a real journalist should do than what he normally does.
He did even express agreement that it was a mistake to go to Iraq.
It wasn't that bad.. Obama stood up well.
I am at a loss why the Democrats give Fox News the time of day, since Fox News operates at a propaganda apparatus for the Republican party.
Saw this last night, and I think Obama held his own very well. He knows O'Loofa's style and kept taking even throughout the interuptions.
Still would have been nice to hear him say, "Bill, I'm not done talking yet. Wait your turn." That would have reigned.
bill o is a self loathing left winger.
Obama looks strong leaning in at him, point his finger, strong and calm.
Hey Billo the clown, you may not THINK that Obama is "terror warrior" but we all KNOW what he isn't -- a sexual harrasser!
I wonder what Andrea Mackris is doing with your millions today
Obama will not be bullied and he won't be talked over. Not even by the biggest media bully on the airwaves.
McCain would do well to skip the debates. He will come out of the other end of them looking even more foolish than he does now.
Palin is going to look like a high school snob and i am not at all concerned about how Biden will handle her.
Anyone know how much Obama raised after last night?
I'm surprised Bill'O didn't cut his mic.
My favorite part is when Bill refers to himself as a "journalist".
Delusional.
I agree that Obama definitely held his own.
Orally makes me sick. Does he want to have a discussion? NO. He wants a certain response and if he doesn't get it, he turns red and interrupts the response. I guess Obama felt he had to go on this nut show, but really, what can he possibly get out of it?
I can't stand it when Bill talks over people. Would he do the same with McCain? And referring himself as a journalist? Hardy Har Har!
In the Tweety and Buchanan dustup tape Buchanan credits a 28 year old Ailles with writing the questions that were fed to a "citizen" at a apolitical presser.
Can't we use that revelation as a way to paint Ailles as a life long republican hack and just get the propaganda channel shut down once and for all?
obama seems to have an endless amount of poise and good manners all the while dealing with the very most difficult people. this is part of what makes him a great leader.
some people will warm up to palin. crows will collect shiny objects. john mccain understands that.
I don't watch Billy. Blowhards just make me tired. But every time I see a clip, I think of Phil Donahue, "I'm no Jeremy Glick, Billy!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c
I miss Phil.
I would not even consider watching this, but I think it's clear why Obama would bother with bo'liely.
The man releases toxins from every cell and atom in his body. The majority have had quite enough, and are tired of nuts going on rampages via the influence of these disturbed men who make a living from the lowest form of discourse............hate.
Bill O hated his father, and like the demographic that follow Hate Radio/teevee, they are deeply insecure, unhappy, and full of FEAR.
Obama, IMHO, really had nothing to lose but his valuable time.
if you don't want to watch the interview on fox, watch it on youtube, like i did. part one is now up, the other three parts will be up starting monday.
yeah, i agree -- bill o'reilly is a tool -- but i it is important to take back the conversation from the disintegration of mccain's candidacy to the issues.
i've posted the youtube link elsewhere in comments and have to get to work, so you'll have to google for it yourself, but do it and pass it along.
put country first -- talk about the issues and why obama has the judgment to lead this country away from the edge of the cliff mccain is trying to take us over.
Another Obama mistake. Dems and Indies should not lend legitamacy.
Buzzflash reports that Palin has been sent back to Alaska. Maybe she forgot to bury
somebodysomething...This is truly sick. O'Reilly staged the whole thing to appear like a headmaster (Bill) grilling a young student (Obama). It is truly disgusting. Watch how O'Reilly interrupts and also how O'Reilly is sitting back (in control) while Obama sits forward (as if eager to please his headmaster). This is GOP staging and spin at its best.
Pete&Pete:
I wholeheartedly agree! Everyone seems to be asking why Obama would ever appear on O'Reilly, but I think you answered their question. Now Obama's campaign can say, "Barack Obama appeared in an interview with Bill O'Reilly on FoxNews. Do John McCain and Sarah Palin have the guts to appear on Countdown with Keith Olbermann. How is McCain going to fight Bin Laden to the gates of hell if he is afraid to be interviewed by Keith Olbermann?"
I would love nothing more than to see McCain reduced to a pile of lime green Jell-o by KO. And BTW, for a guy who is supposed to be - according to the GOP and a lot of the compliant, biased press - the Greatest American Hero since George Washington, John McCain sure is a whiny little bitch, isn't he?
gotta say,, after watching all the yahoos a the RNC all week, listening to Obama even discussing this thread bare line of questioning from this con artist of a "journalist" is a breath of fresh air. Im amazed with his tolerance too.
It was a huge mistake for BHO to go on Bill O' but, shows real courage nonetheless. Of course, Bill O' tries to bully and steer BHO where he wants him to go. Why do dems continue to credit Faux news? Good grief..learn folks! If you want fair & balanced, demand fair & balanced. I would love to see the difference between this and an interview with McCain. I know for sure he wouldn't berate/interrupt or disrespect McCain like that. Of course, no republican would have the "courage" to be on Olberman.
So I was not the only one incensed at the lack of respect BillO showed Obama. It appeared as if BillO was second guessing everything Obama was saying and Obama somehow had to establish his patriotism credentials. It would have been nice if Obama had included Billo's name in the list of enemies America has today. Billo and Fox are at the top of the list of American enemies.. perhaps one day we will see Roger Ailes' picture on a most wanted playing card deck...
WTF! Why the hell did Obama go in the Factor? He only legitimizes him.
Obama knows he's going to be president of the WHOLE country. In order to do this, you have to speak to people who are not going to vote for you.
Plus, it took away some of the RNC's thunder.
I thought Obama did very well considering the format. I agree that O'Reilly treated him in a completely different way than he does republicans, but Obama held his own. Obama showed he has nerves of steel and can go toe to toe with a bully. And, did you notice that O'Reilly told his partners after showing part of the interview that he thought Obama was a "tough guy." That's some progress.
Obama is not a Bill Clinton when it comes to taking on Fox Noise, it would be a delicious clash of the titans if Bill went on the factor with the same mindset as when he crushed Chris Wallace.
karen marie @ 28:
I've also found that tvunetworks.com has Fox News streaming live for those of us without cable, although I wouldn't recommend installing the TVU Player on a computer you _need_ to have working, cause it's a pretty junk program. Maybe someone knows of a better alternative?
Billo, you fucking pinhead.
I thought Barack acquitted himself very well. What a class act. I am totally comfortable with him receiving that proverbial 3 a.m. phone call -- instead of that hot-tempered, trigger-happy ghoul with the creepy smile and puffy cheeks.
That said, I don't know why Obama or any Democrat/progressive would sit down with the snarky, sneering, bullying punk O'Reilly. I detest him perhaps more than any of the reich-wing jabberers out there. He's a true slimeball.
I'm not sure it was a good idea for Sen. Obama to say that the surge has "succeeded beyond our wildest dreams."
Obama or anybody else that isn't a republican has never been treated "fair and balanced" on this network.. I dunno why we would expect this would suddenly change..
I agree with you John across the board. I also noticed that Billo is stretching Obama to three nights. Could he be trying to get his ratings up?
I thought this was a home run for Obama. Bill-O tried his level best to shake and interrupt him but Obama came off as calm, coherent and strong. O'Reilly's fans—i.e. people who still think GWB is a good president—will in all likelihood delude themselves into thinking he nailed Obama. But most folks recognize Oh-Really? for the blowhard and bully that he is.
This segment vigorously rebuts the idea that Obama will be too weak to deal with dictators. Obama's immense political skills continue to pleasantly startle me.
If someone could do a word count, and cut out Obama's stuttering "ums" and "ahs", I guarantee that O'Reilly spoke more than Obama.
Completely unprofessional as an interviewer and all ego.
With that said, Obama was very impressive despite the horrendous questioning.
I really wish that Obama or any Democrat for that matter would just stay away from Fox. Apparently his campaign thinks that it could help him out, but it's still very hard to watch after all of the nasty things that they have said about him. I cannot understand for the life of me how anyone can watch Fox and think that it is a credible news network.
Sometimes I feel that I'm in a different country or something. Every night on my lunch break I go to the cafeteria and there's a bunch of people gathered around watching Glenn Beck and I really feel like there's something wrong with me because I don't get it. To me, these guys are blatantly partisan and extremely vicious and nasty.
I guess that there are just to many people in this country that do not think for themselves, which is why the ones of us who do are going to have to work a lot harder to get Obama moved in to 1600 Penn. Ave.
I have been printing off McCain quotes and voting records and plastering them up everywhere at work with some success and I would encourage everyone to do the same. With this new gimmick of McCain's we are going to have to really go for broke here.
Very bad move by Obama to appear on O'Reilly.
I mean what the hell were they expecting?
borlie has create a false reality for many of his viewers. one advantage of the appearance is that actual reality can begin to creep in. also there's just plain ol marketing value, people will more readily accept something new and different after there is some familiarity. when people see how reasonable obama is, and that he can indeed think and speak on his feet in the worst circumstances, the net advantage may be more votes, and goodwill too. I am an optimist i suppose, even after watching some of the stomach turning speakers of this weeks really kind of ugly convention. they say the embrace a "shake up", all the while telling lie after lie. the constant lying calls into question all of the claims and promises they make. incidentally, did barack spend much of his speech time just talking about himself, i don't remember it that way, seems to be de rigeur for any republican speech these days. narcisissm.
Many many Americans disagree with the crazy obnoxious policies of Bill O'Lieley; and yet still; we refrain from using the military to bomb him from the skies. Instead; we merely change the channel. Bill; you don't solve the problem of complex differences in ideology by bombing them from the skies.
Great job, Obama.
Dale @ 36:
Attempting to speak to crazy, delusional, intolerant, racist Republicans will get Obama nowhere. THis appearance was a mistake. Wait untill we see the rest of this staged show next week. Obama has already been cajoled into say "it [the surge] succeeded beyond our wildest dreams..."
Mike @ 35:
Billo would whine and call him a coward. It was a lose/lose deal but my money is still on Obama. Not only that, it will legitimize Billo as a bullying jerk.
An ex-Mossad chief recently said that a nuclear Iran will NOT pose an existential threat to Israel.
BillO' needs to shut up about Iran posing such a threat.
Iran does NOT pose an existential threat to Israel or the United States.
The ONLY reason both countries would like to see Iran's nuclear program shut, is because a nuclear Iran will be able to resist through the Mutually Assured Destruction doctrine both U.S. and to some extent Israeli hegemony, both economic and political.
P.S.: I love O’Reilly’s pathetic hypocrisy. He goes on and on about hypotheticals like Iran giving a nuke to Hezbollah, but then when Obama stresses the effectiveness of diplomacy over force, O'Loofa boy exclaims, "But that's all hypothetical".
Although his going on the show likely won't change 1 single vote, Mr. Obama should've stayed home or kept answers short and simple, douchebags don't understand anything else. He was also waaaaay to nice.
theWalrus @ 52:
Yeah, I don't really understand why he said that.
O'Reilly will be expecting a Peabody for this interview.
redratio1 @ 48:
Exactly what came out of it. He showed anyone who watched that Bill O'Rielly can't intimidate him, that he is poised and can cut through the most rediculous question and get to the point.
Is anyone, including Barack himself, surprised at how he was treated? There was never any intention on BO's part to discuss the issues with Barack in a constructive way. Right from the beginning BO is just trying to paint Barack in a certain light. Why Barack would even bother to partake in this interview is beyond me. Perhaps he wanted to show that he could withstand a hard right partisan interview and come out looking better than that.
Doesn't matter much, does it? Republicans can stand up on their convention floor and say that Liberals are the problem in Washington, even though it's the right wing that's controlled the country. They can stand up there and call the media "Liberal-Elites" over and over, forcing journalists to accept what they say as legitimate no matter how much of a lie or embelishment it might be, in order to avoid criticism for being partisan. They can stand up there and slam their fists, call liberals weak on defense, economically clueless and unpatriotic, and not offer one single policy idea. They can stand up there and call critics of Palin sexist for wondering if a mother of 5 with a handicapped child who has about as much executive experience as a Walmart manager can lead the free world if something were to happen to McCain...
Doesn't matter much, does it? They can do all this and not be held accountable, and certain people will eat it all up and regardless of the outcome in the end will still receive nearly half of America's votes....
Republican unanimity is sickening, yet effective.
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Maybe BillO can bring up the topic of troopergate just for shins and giggles:
The results of the investigation will be released three weeks earlier (Oct 31..making it an Oct surprise):
Let's talk about that BillO.
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I'm quite a ways into the interview, and have yet to hear Bill O'Reilley being rude or attacking. It sounds to me like two men having a conversation, in which there are some questions and disagreements. If Obama can't handle an interview far more gentle than what Republicans are routinely subjected to, he has no business in the White House.
Dick @ 10:
I'm sure you are tired, hasn't it been 2 years or so of this election? We're going to have a Federal election this fall in Canada and from what I hear the writ will be dropped this weekend, September 7. Our election will be on Oct 14, so 5 weeks of campaigning is all we have. I like that. Present it, talk about it for a few weeks and then vote, over and done with.
Dale @ 56:
...BUT, Obama did say that the surge did not succeed in its primary goal, which was to get the Iraq government to step up and get its shit together.
Joe Klein's conscience @ 3:
After that, Alaska needs to host her on trial for her malfeasance!
Already this morning Palin was quoting Obama's answers to the surge question. I am sure Bill the Shill called the mcshame campaign as soon as his interview was finished and gave them word for word what Obama had said. Didn't take long for them to use and quote Obama in their digs. Palin is showing her true colors; a harsh, vindictive, mean, woman. She was probably one of those basketball players that elbowed, kneed, and shoved when they thought the ref wasn't looking. A real good sport. She is a piece of work that mcshame didn't need. Hope he will live to regret his choice. Everybody else will.
Isn't Jon Stewart on a special Daily Show tonight? Thought I heard him say this last night.
JimboSlice @ 4:
Here's a column from Charles sourKrauthammer. He sounds like Peggy Noonan. Wonder if he says "it's over!" when the mic's are off....
Can Palin's Star Power Overcome Resume?
By Charles Krauthammer
"There are two questions we will never have to ask ourselves, 'Who is this man?' and 'Can we trust this man with the presidency?'"
-- Fred Thompson on John McCain, Sept. 2.
WASHINGTON -- This was the most effective line of the entire Republican convention: a ringing affirmation of John McCain's authenticity and a not-so-subtle indictment of Barack Obama's insubstantiality. What's left of this line of argument, however, after John McCain picks Sarah Palin for vice president?
Palin is an admirable and formidable woman. She has energized the Republican base and single-handedly unified the Republican convention behind McCain. She performed spectacularly in her acceptance speech. Nonetheless, the choice of Palin remains deeply problematic.
It's clear that McCain picked her because he had decided that he needed a game-changer. But why? He'd closed the gap in the polls with Obama. True, that had more to do with Obama sagging than McCain gaining. But what's the difference? You win either way.
Obama was sagging because of missteps that reflected the fundamental weakness of his candidacy. Which suggested McCain's strategy: Make this a referendum on Obama, surely the least experienced, least qualified, least prepared presidential nominee in living memory.
Palin fatally undermines this entire line of attack. This is through no fault of her own. It is simply a function of her rookie status. The vice president's only constitutional duty of any significance is to become president at a moment's notice. Palin is not ready. Nor is Obama. But with Palin, the case against Obama evaporates.
So why did McCain do it? He figured it's a Democratic year. The Republican brand is deeply tarnished. The opposition is running on "change" in a change election. So McCain gambled that he could steal the change issue for himself -- a crazy brave, characteristically reckless, inconceivably difficult maneuver -- by picking an authentically independent, tough-minded reformer. With Palin, he doubles down on change.
The problem is the inherent oddity of the incumbent party running on change. Here were Republicans -- the party that controlled the White House for eight years and both houses of Congress for five -- wildly cheering the promise to take on Washington. I don't mean to be impolite, but who's controlled Washington this decade?
Moreover, McCain was giving up his home turf of readiness to challenge Obama on his home turf of change. Can that possibly be pulled off? The calculation was to choose demographics over thematics. Palin's selection negates the theme of readiness. But she does bring important constituencies. She has the unique potential of energizing the base while at the same time appealing to independents.
This is unusual. Normally the wing-nut candidate alienates the center. Palin promises a twofer because of her potential appeal to the swing-state Reagan Democrats that Hillary Clinton carried in the primaries. Not for reasons of gender -- Clinton didn't carry those because she was a woman -- but because more culturally conservative working-class whites might find affinity with Palin's small-town, middle/frontier American narrative and values.
The gamble is enormous. In a stroke, McCain gratuitously forfeited his most powerful argument against Obama. And this was even before Palin's inevitable liabilities began to pile up -- inevitable because any previously unvetted neophyte has "issues." The kid. The state trooper investigation. And worst, the paucity of any Palin record or expressed conviction on the major issues of our time.
McCain has one hope. It is suggested by the strength of Palin's performance Wednesday night. In a year of compounding ironies, the McCain candidacy could be saved, and the Palin choice vindicated, by one thing: Palin does an Obama.
Obama showed that star power can trump the gravest of biographical liabilities. The sheer elegance, intelligence and power of his public presence have muted the uneasy feeling about his unreadiness. Palin does not reach Obama's mesmeric level. Her appeal is far more earthy, workmanlike and direct. Yet she managed to banish a week's worth of unfriendly media scrutiny and self-inflicted personal liabilities with a single triumphant speech.
Now, Obama had 19 months to make his magic obscure his thinness. Palin has nine weeks. Nevertheless, if she too can neutralize unreadiness with star power, then the demographic advantages she brings McCain -- appeal to the base and to Reagan Democrats -- coupled with her contribution to the reform theme, might just pay off. The question is: Can she do the magic -- unteleprompted extemporaneous magic, from now on -- for the next nine weeks?
(emphasis mine)
Why does Obama have a look on his face that says, "This O'reilly guy is such a conundrum"?
Is he mystified by falafel boy's stupidity?
What gives?
LS @ 61:
You need to lay off that stuff.
My Obama O'Reillly "Surge" blog post is now up. Critical commentary always welcome.
lj @ 44:
He has got to. Team Obama played BillO by scheduling the interview on the night of McCain's speech. They knew all the press would be on McCain and this would just be another blip in the media long distance radar. By spacing it out BillO's producers get the benefit of less competition for the attentions of the mouth breathers.
Obama HAD to go on. When Orally stalked him he got Obama to say he'd go on after the primaries. If he didn't it would be non-stop whinging from the foxbots.
xoites defends Constitution @ 58:
WHAT!? "Hey Bill, where's my muthafukin' ice tea?" I'm really surprised that Obama could contain his appetite for ribs and watermelon around a massa like BO. /s
NoBuddy @ 13:
I agree. I was hoping Obama would never go on the vicious cow's show and help boost his ratings. Now, Sean Hannity is jealous. My first impression was O'Reilly had no respect for this man. He is the Presidential nominee. He treated him like he was Britney Spears. But Billo wont have Phil Donohue on his show anymore. He kicked O'Reilly's butt. You got to check this one out filmed after the war started.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c&NR=1
FUCK IT, WE'LL DO IT LIVE WITH ANDREA MACKRIS!
THE PEABODY AWARD IS MINE, I CAN'T READ THIS!
Fuck Bill O'Reilly, the interrupting-dickhead-blowhard with a narcissism disorder, who likes this fucking asshole??
It is so stupid to think that a Politician from either Party would want harm to come to this Country and not do his best to protect us. The Devil is only in the details of how they would do it.
I got a question for Senator Obama as regards going on the Bill O'Reilly show...Why bother? Everyone knows what O'Reilly's deal is... It's not like ANY dem would or will ever get a fair shake on that weakass excuse for a news show anyway...It's not like Billo's show ever talks about real issues this nation needs to address when repub propaganda spin is at the top of Billo's agenda.. It's a repub luvfest on Billo's.. Always has been. Bill O'Reilly is the kind of guy that makes a Pat Buchanon look almost downright moderate... So again the question I got is... Why bother?? As for O'Reilly himself and his spin game?? I got two words, no three for him.. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!!! JD
Obama going on the O'Reilly show was a nowin situation for Obama. He's certainly not going to win over any converts in the Fox Channel audience. Why anyone would want to go on O'Reilly or Hannity to be insulted and demeaned is beyond comprehension.
theWalrus @ 57:
he wont even get a Polk.
Why would ANYONE, let alone a Dem presidential nominee give this joke of a human being any credibility by going on his show? This man is a liar! something tells me that this has to do with the recent face to face Obama had with Murdoch and Ailes. Barack, please please please stay away from FOX!!!!! No one at FOX is interested in an honest discussion. They are bent on destroying you.
It's not surprising and I'm glad Obama walked into a lions den (as he did with Warren at Jesus' brokeback mtn or whatever) . Mccain's campaign lacks the balls. Rick Davis cried like a big puss when Brown actually did her job.
Dale @ 63:
Oh, I'm sure that as the RNC quickly spreads Obama's confirmation that "it [the surge] succeeded beyond our wildest dreams..." they will be careful to include that detail.
In your dreams.
So Bill-O's solution to everything is military force. On the I-94 form entering the country it asks "were you involved with the Nazis." Bill-O and the rest of the Christian warmongering right need to check "yes."
Hieronymus Braintree @ 45:
Yeah, it pissed O'Bully off. He was trying his best to get him angry and failed. He passed the first Pitt Bull test. Go Obama.
Somebody please tell Bill that you cannot talk of peace while preparing for war. I understand why Obama went on Fox News -- he did so to beat O'Reilly at his own game and appeal to the disenfranchised Republicans who still aren't sold on McCain.
However, Bill O'Reilly is a condescending trouser stain and the manner in which he conducted this attempted hit job (which, from this segment, looked to have backfired) is disgraceful to all serious journalists who are working their asses out.
Mike @ 35:
Fox News isn't looking for legitimacy.
StirFry @ 78:
that's a really good point. Obama is demonstrating that he's willing to talk to everyone, not just the people he likes. Press conferences will probably go a lot differently than under McCain Media and No Press Pleasin' Palin.
John, you are dead on the money. O'Liely was incredibly rude to a man who, after all, could well be the next president of the United States. Rather than according him the deference due to a man who won his party's nomination, O'Reilly treated him as though he were a street punk who just got caught nabbing an old lady's purse. It was sickening. And I also agree that I did not and do not think it was wise for Obama (or Biden, for that matter) to go on this show. Fox is a propaganda organ for the Right, pure and simple, and I think the previous (unofficial) policy of Democrats pf not appearing on that network was the right call. After giving it a fair amount of thought, I have yet to think of one strong upside to Obama having gone on this program. The potential downsides, however, are many, including bolstering the stature of O'Liely and Fox, and also giving them fresh material to distort and use selectively and without context. This is one of the rare things Obama has done that I felt was NOT wise.
ETHIOLIB @ 77:
No. He should face those bastards. You don't run from bullies, you fact them.
dosido @ 84:
Maybe he should have waited to talk to "everyone" until after he's elected President.
I won't watch this because I remain adamant that 'nobody' should ever go on Faux, and in particular O'Reilly - no Liberal, no Democrat, no Progressive, nobody. The only reason you're there is so they can hope for a 'gotcha' they can use to feed their base...and since their base is the only people watching and will never change their mind about voting for you in the first place, what's the point? Why'd you do it? Were you 'Billied' into it - to hell with him...ignore the prick...so what if he doesn't go away, we've got Olbermann to belittle the bastard.
And while we're on Olbermann...I disagree, Palin should go on the new Rachel Maddow show. Keith would come across as either bullying a woman or being condescending to her. No, Rachel will let the air out of this 'Moose Shit Pie' maker and she won't even know what hit her. Of course the Repug handlers also know this so you can probably figure they'll never let within smelling distance of MSNBC.
Brian @ 80:
I don't think Billy was ever out of the country, let alone the knuckle-draggers who watch his show.
A bold and courageous move by Obama. He more than held his own. Look. There's a significant number of voters, Republican and independent, who watch Bill O. If Obama can convince any uncommitted folks to either not vote for McCain or better yet bring some over from the dark side, this interview was well worth any temporary discomfort.
Plus, any time you put a very smart man in a room with O'Reilly only serves to make Bill look that much more stupid.
-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
"Who Dares Wins"
It could have been worse. Even though I loathe Bill, this is the closest he's ever come to real journalism that I've ever seen. All in all, everything out of Bill's mouth should be dismissed. Obama did a great job keeping the focus, and talking about actual issues. And after watching the "Beauty contest" that was the RNC, I would only be laughing if I didn't know that this is the same group that voted for Bush and have a say in this country. I have never been more afraid for our country than ever before.
Doofus @ 85:
A strong leader faces their enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Think about it.
Mike @ 35:
Why do so many of us who are progressives think that Obama should only preach to us the converted? If Obama wants to win this election he needs to convince the "heathen." If you watch this clip with the sound off so you can focus on the body language and facial features you will see two things.
First, a completely composed and in control of the situation Obama and a pissed-off O'Reilly who recognizes at a visceral level that Obama has used him to make points with O'Reilly's audience. That of course was Obama's game plan.
Look folks, Obama's going to do what he needs to do to get elected. We won't like some of it. If we were a powerful enough force to overcome the corporate dominated MSM Bush wouldn't have gotten a second term. If Obama is elected will he fix everything that we want to see fixed? NO!!
Things will get fixed in our country ONLY IF WE STEP UP AND DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO. "ORDINARY PEOPLE DOING EXTRAORDINARY THINGS." With McSame we are running into the wind, with Obama perhaps we'll have the wind behind our backs, but my brothers and sisters WE HAVE TO RUN THE RACE AND WIN IT.
You are all welcome to point out Obama's shortcomings and deficiencies but bear in mind if what you say contributes to a McCain victory or theft of the election then your actions, no matter how well intended, will have been part of the problem.
I just watched the clip again. Is it me, or does O'Reilly seem just a little bit too uppity?
theWalrus @ 79:
"Iran is a tiny country"
-Obama-
of course, he went on to say "...compared to the Soviet Union', but who dwells on details ?
greg @ 86:
I know what you mean but, I have more respect for honest bullies than this A Holes at FOX. They are not even honest when they bully you. A bully has a purpose, which is to feed his own ego. These people don't even have that little bit of respect for anything to have any ego. They are totally evil.
Does anybody actually WATCH MSNBC? They've been promoting the McCain interview by Keith Olberman that's going to air on Monday night.
It was how I knew it would be. If Obama or anyone on his staff start whinning about how they were treated then he has lost my vote, because he was dumb enough to put hisself in that position for the maybe 2 votes he might get out of that crowd of inbreds. Tell it like it is , it turned out to be exactly what he figured it would be , but he made a promise to OReally and he is a man of his word ,period end of story
http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/0908/Senate_Dems_to_force_equal_p...
way to go, dems!
hey loofa boy, you stupid fuck....we cant send ground troops in??? we just did
you fucking perv....you fucking racist prick
fuck you
Obama has my vote. Nevertheless, I'm glad to see someone challenge his position. He doesn't walk on water. I have to say that while I am not a fan of Bill O'Reilly, his questioning was not as disgusting as this post characterizes it.
DirtyDawg @ 88:
While I think Obama HAD to appear on the factor, had he not...the reich would have labeled him a coward..among other, less savory things.
But you are SPOT ON about Palin being on Maddows show....Maddow would tear her a new asshole.
You are surprised or appalled that O'Reilly would disrespect Barak Obama on his "show"?
Get real.
"Oh Really" is the lowest of the scum of the earth and watching his show is a practice in toilet bowl sniffing. I can't understand why Barak Obama wasted his time here. Is he out of touch with us? Or is he putting himself there as a martyr?
I'm going out for some fresh air. All this talk of O'Reilly makes me feel dirty all over. I still think it was mistake and cringe at the thought of what to expect next week...Bill hinted that it was somewhat explosive....
later...
Dom @ 31:
No, the best match would be to see Palin interviewed by Rachel Maddow. Palin would explode and have to be carried out in a Hefty bag.
Quite frankly I wonder if we'd probably all be better off if the whole country just crumbled. Hopefully the MSM would go first. Maybe then we would get off our collective asses and get back to work cultivating ambition, curiosity for knowledge, and actual achievement.
I thought the segment as a whole went quite well for Obama. I've never seen O'Reilly so civil while talking to a Democrat.
Yes, they will most certainly take snippets of the interview and take them out of context, but... So far so good.
O'Reilly was pretty hostile. He didn't really make any points though. He was primarily just being contrary. It'll be interesting to see if he treats McCain in a similar manner should he appear on his show.
At least it appears that O'Reilly's mic cutting days are behind him...
and he didn't try and pull a Paris Business Review quote out of his ass...
Fathead @ 101:
Yeah, I thought so as well. I think O'Reilly is a scumbag personally, but he wasn't too vomit-inducing there.
L.A. Confidential @ 106:
LAC...we may have no choice.
O'Reilly says "If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they're gonna give it to Hezbollah." No, they won't. Any nuclear weapon that is exploded anywhere in the world can be traced back to its source of manufacture by the types and amounts of radiation it leaves in its wake. It's like ballistics tests on bullets; you know which gun fired the bullets, you know which centrifuges produced the fissable material. Iran's nuclear physicists know this as well as any other physicists; they know if they create a nuclear weapon and give it to a terrorist, it will without a doubt be traced back to Iran as the source of production. Iran would be a pile of radiating rubbish two hours later, and Iran's leaders knows this as well as do the U.S. leaders. Why this isn't thrown back at these moronic fear-mongers, I don't know.
greg @ 92:
That was not facing the enemy as much it was Obama trying to appease the FOX audience.
Biiiig difference. And the main reason why I am glad I became an independent long ago.
Well, at least Obama's willing to get interviewed by a hostile interviewer.
Where's Runaway Sarah? Hiding in Alaska
liberAL @ 64:
it was a mistake for obama to say that the surge is a success
5 million iraqis still wont return home
there are still suicide bombings occuring
and today, we are being told that there will be no reduction of troop size
the surge is bs...the iraqis can still not self govern....and what happens when we stop paying insurgent groups not to kill our men and women in uniform?
this was the ever patient adult (father figure?) with the ever stumbling and ill-manner boybrat. it's something parents just have to go through sometimes.
i'm beginning to think obama is really just a lot better than even his fans are willing to give him credit for. I don't blame them, after the last couple of hope eroding elections. i think you have to do the right thing, but you also have to have faith sometimes. i'm still waiting to see just how good obama really is. i think he is pretty damn good.
ETHIOLIB @ 96:
That's my point. Obama has to face those bastards at Fox and let some FOX viewers get a look at him. Fox is the number one network so why not use them. Remember, Bush saying I don't talk to terrorists? Nothing got done. I originally thought it was a bad idea to go of FAUX but I have changed my mind.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 115:
StirFry @ 60:
Follow that up with an indept discussion of Loofah-gate!
Any thoughts on sexual harrassment, BrillO?
Cut my mike? Why? Sexual harrassment is relevantly pertinent to this open, fair, and balanced discussion on teen pregnancies, the 2-generation tradition of shotgun induced marriage vows, and a hypocritical governor rumored to be adulterous at the moment, explaining well her abysmally embattled homelife.
I mean, come on, we're finally talking to you disengneuous Pharisees from the sanctimonious right, replete a Faux Noise pseudo-pundit convicted of unprofesional behavior with his subordinates in a hostile work environment.
Okay, maybe that pseudo-pundit accusation is over the top. Scarborough and other pseudo-pundits have, after all, noted offense for the insult of my numbering you among them! I'm sorry.
Turn the mike back on. I'll apoloGIZE LIVE!!!!!! @#$%^%$$#@@##$!!!!! I'll SAY IT LIVE!!!!
theWalrus @ 79:
Don't know which way you swing, but neither Obama or O' Reilly ever wind up in my dreams.
cray86 @ 6:
I.E., live like a republican.
Ah, the Billo interview. Yeah, I hate that right-wing shill and his crappy factor (or is that crap factory?) but I do think it will give Obama a leg up on tough questions he will face in the debates. Anyone agree?
Tyler Durden @ 113:
I'm sorry, I don't see your point. Please elaborate.
When interrupted, Obama should ask BillO, "are you interviewing, or opinionating?"
theWalrus @ 8:
The GOPidiots can't seem to separate Obama's stance on the surge from his original position. Did the surge work? Yeah, it did except for the fact that the Iraqi Parliament still hasn't accomplished the benchmarks it needed to accomplish. In that respect, the surge didn't work. First, it was to quell violence. That violence was quelled in the isolated areas which benefited from the increased troop strength. However, it still hasn't done a damn thing in the parliament which is what we were told when the argument was made about the violence was what the surge was all about. So, did the surge work? I think not! And, we probably would've been more successful if we hadn't listened to Rumsfeld and listened to the generals and sent more troops in the beginning. We would've been more successful if there was a plan for the peace and we wouldn't be in the muck we're in if we hadn't gone at all which was O'bama's original projection. Has anyone asked O'Reilly this? What about McCain? What about Palin, oh wait, Iraq, will of God, forget her.
Ask O'Reilly , et.al., where the WMD's are. Ask O'Reilly, et.al., where OBL is. Ask them where the looted treasures or the ordinance that wasn't looked after once we invaded. Let's watch them squirm for those answers.
When you put enough boots on the ground
The only way this appearance could be positive for obama is if his campaign forces mccain and palin to go one on one with Olberman or Maddow. Otherwise, all it does is make the idiots of america keep on thinking that bill o is a legitimate journalist.
billo has 2+Million viewers who only get his slant.
it's good to go and let those voters see you.
if it reaches a decent percentage, it's worth it.
with that said, god forbid billo gets run over by a train.
liberalNmoderation @ 111:
I don't think we do anyway!
KT @ 97:
Mr. Olbermann, please see my questions at 123!
O'Reilly says, "If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, they're gonna give it to Hezbollah." No, they won't. The radiation a nuclear weapon leaves in its wake is like the ballistics marks on a bullet; it allows the bomb to be traced back to its source of production, back to the particular stream of centrifuges that produced the fissable material. Iran's physicists know this as well as any other physicists anywhere else in the world. They know if Iran makes a bomb and gives it to a terrorist organization that uses it, Iran will be a pile of radiating rubbish within two hours, and that the world will agree that it was the right thing to do to Iran. And Iran's leaders know this as well as do America's leaders. This is bullshit fear-mongering at it's highest level and people need to start calling these assholes on this bullshit.
Fathead @ 101:
in his interviews with mccain, bush and cheney....how many times did he interupt them?
how many times did a sneer cross his face while he belittled their opinions
how many times did he tell bush the war in iraq was wrong?
we cant send ground troops into pakistan? we just did
i know that obama thought he had to do this interview....but he didnt
he didnt because loofa boy the perv should be given no credibility
drb @ 11:
real journalist? NO. He was giving too much OPINION.
Obama did quite well against O'Reilly. Obama can hold his own against this blow hard. There will be tough questions in the upcoming episodes (Rev. Wright, et al) but Obama is ready to address them.
There are a couple of advantages to this interview:
Obama is not afraid to take on the right wing noise machine as compared to Palin who will be in protective custody in Alaska.
Bill likes Obama, or certainly respects him (see his closing comments about Obama not being a wimp). To many of O'Reilly's audience (and it is a large audience) if Bill says Obama is an OK guy, that means a lot and will make it alright for some of Bill's crowd to vote for Obama or to at least stop their insane rabid attacks on him.
After McCain's acceptance speech, some of Bill's audience may be questioning their support of the Republicans and be looking for a reason why it's OK to vote for Obama.
Truthseeker @ 120:
I think he did well in this session. He didn't let Bill O talk over him.
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 129:
It's arleady out of the one second attention span O'Reilly viewrs consciousness.
Forget it! Any further debate about is a waste of time.
L.A. Confidential @ 106:
LA unless something quite remarkable and unexpected comes out of the woodwork, a friend of mine calls the phenomenon an "artifact", the entire global situation is likely to crumble in the next few years. My hope for Obama is a somewhat controlled collapse where people are encouraged to help each other out. Put community ahead of self, bring out the more noble aspects of the human being so to speak. If McCain takes control it will be everyone for themselves and a return to the feudal system with the corporate class taking on the role of landed aristocracy and the rest of us completing the cast as neopeasants.
Palin on Olberman! Great post. But hey, today a McCain advisor told Scarborough on "Morning Joe' that Palin probably wouldn't even be made "available" for any of the one on one shows (Scarborough speficially mentioned Meet The Press). And wasn't even "apologetic" about it: "We'll do what we think is best to win the election". Hah!
This Obama goes on O'REilly, will Palin do Olberman question should be regularly used by us...
I love it. Bring on Bill Dononue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c&NR=1
The only reason violence is down is because Iraq is now segregated.
Did o'really ask Obama where his m****r-f***ing iced tea was?
Chicken "Hussein" Little - Not! @ 134:
I won't argue with that.
The bad thing about a candidate from Alaska is
They don't know night from day.
Eufaula Mike @ 131:
Acceptance speech? I though I was watching the Lawrence Welk show. GEEE what a bunch of tired old white folks. Pass the tonic.
Of course now with global warming
We can all have our share of Baked Alaska.
Taarak @ 26:
Thanks. I needed that.
I know you get credit for facing hostile audiences. However, there is a difference between hostile, hopelessly biased hack. And Barack has a perfectly acceptable excuse for not appearing on his show...Bill's history of sexual harassment. 'Dear Bill, I decline to appear on your program. Your personal conduct in the matter of Ms. Whatsername was repellant and I'd be doing a disservice to women everywhere if I were to appear on your program.'
My thoughts:
-Obama is smarter than O'Reilly. I'm not worried.
-Obama is good at making O'Reilly look foolish. I only wish he'd go the extra step. If Bill asks a hypothetical question, and Barack gives a hypothetical answer, and Bill doesn't like that, Barack could have gotten a better "gotcha!" on BO's set-up
-Barack admitted the surge worked. This will obviously be used by the right, but it will also negate their only talking point of Barack's "bad" judgment about Iraq. I only wish he hadn't said it like that. He should have said it worked halfway, because it did. The surge was difficult in acquiring its gains, but you don't call someone who finished half of med school "doctor."
-A Palin/Maddow interview would probably make me touch myself inappropriately.
OK, I forced myself to watch the clip.
1. Obama Held his own.
2. O'liely needs to ask the question and then SHUT THE F-UP! (what a hack).
3. Obama treated O'liely with respect, something O'liely does not deserve in my opinion.
I would just like to know in a civil society why is bill'o still on the air? If it wasn't for Faux news he would have no place to open his gaping hole and spew his nonsense.
"Bloviating"? When has he ever told a Bush admin jerk he's been "bloviating"?
"But would you prepare for (a military action)?" Obvious answer: The military is always prepared to respond to situations, Mr. O'Reilly, don't you think?
ysbaddaden @ 140:
:)
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