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New Obama ad: They call themselves 'mavericks?!'

"Politicians lying about their records? You don't call that maverick, you call it more of the same."



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Yes, Yes, Yes. I saw this one on TV tonight, FABULOUS. As Rachel Maddow said last Friday when John McCain and Sarah Palin "stretch the truth" you call it what it is a LIE.

Is it just me or does that top-left photo look like Jeffrey Dahmer?

Nice to see the correct word being used, LIE.

More problems for Palin.

Ron Paul won't endorse McCain.

Obama getting tougher.

Things are gonna change, I can feel it (Beck?).

Peace.

What are the names of the McCain Lobbyists and who do they lobby for? Does anyone know?

Keith just gave another awesome special comment -- this one about McSame's co-opting of 9/11 as some sort of Republican brand.

SWEEEET!!! - THEY ACTUALLY USED THE WORD LIE - BEAUTIFUL

For a different take on the republican convention -watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMP-4YRxBZo

No lipstick?

Boring Scott @ 2:

Is it just me or does that top-left photo look like Jeffrey Dahmer?

Isn't that Rick Dahmer Davis?

And just to enhance the fact that John McCain is LYING the two most respected fact-check websites today came out with their analysis of his latest commericials.

Politifact rates the McCain ad about lipstick on a pig as Pants-on-Fire and says 'If there's lipstick on a pig, it's this McCain ad"

Factcheck.org states of the McCain fact-check ad, that "McCain-Palin distort our findings" and of the Education Ad: "Off Base on Sex Ed ... Don't believe it"

Yes, attack your enemy.

Don't tell me why to vote for you.

Don't give me a positive message.

Give me a negative message.

Just be good at the negative-message thing. Don't be half-assed.

That DOES look like Dahmer.

Well, Republicans are ghouls and cannibals, among myriad other things.

Mavericks my ass.

Governmental snoops, perverts, rip off artists, vicious, vile, sadistic liars.

lj @ 4:

What are the names of the McCain Lobbyists and who do they lobby for? Does anyone know?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802260009

Take a look right there, wayy too many to list.

A step in the right direction. Now start sprinting. And don't be afraid to get mad. Controlled, righteous anger is worth being accused of being rude when we've got so, so much to be angry about.

-Scott

To lj @4

Rick (Dahmer) Davis is his campaign manager.

The list is long who he lobbied for, but wasn't Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the list?

Rachel is scooping a story on some more BIG lobby scandal stuff as I write this.

Oh, and the video from Countdown of McCain blasting the "Bridge to Nowhere" for the collpase of the Minnesota bridge is priceless.

Palin emails coming to light, and more info on the troopergate scandal.

The Repugs will not survive this scrutiny.

Rock On!

For the record, left to right, top to bottom:

Rick Davis, Frank Donatelli, [Scrooge], Charlie Black
Wayne Berman, Randy Schneunemann, John Green, Nancy Pfotenhauer

I think I got that right...

BigIslandDave @ 5:

Keith just gave another awesome special comment -- this one about McSame's co-opting of 9/11 as some sort of Republican brand.

Totally. Called out McCain big time at the end of it. Said they are using 9/11 as the ultimate sleight of hand to boost their parties chances of winning in November. Good step for journalism in my opinion. About time someone has the balls to think logically about how someone like Guiliani ought to have guilt about that day and not a celebratory tone every time its mentioned. Hope C&L can get the clip of it up ASAP.

i'm pretty sure i've heard that voice on discovery channel all the time!

lj @ 4:

What are the names of the McCain Lobbyists and who do they lobby for? Does anyone know?

Good question. Maybe Google?

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Boring Scott @ 2:

Is it just me or does that top-left photo look like Jeffrey Dahmer?

Yes it does. I don't know if people who look alike tend to have similar personality traits, but I'd say McCain Campaign Advisor Rick Davis hasn't shown much aversion to criminality and socially repugnant behavior.

McPale's Navy @ 16:

For the record, left to right, top to bottom:

Rick Davis, Frank Donatelli, [Scrooge], Charlie Black
Wayne Berman, Randy Schneunemann, John Green, Nancy Pfotenhauer

I think I got that right...

Thanks! Randy Schneunemann - isn't he the one mixed up in Georgia (country) politics?

Woohoo! They said LYING! About damn time. Now if only the mass media continues to say out loud...
Hopefully this is a start of continued calling out of the rancorous falsehoods that have been fed through McCain's tire swinging allies and stop allowing false statements to be defended as if they are opinions.

Mccain = maverick & going against his party. Is that him going against MLK as a national holiday ?

McPale's Navy @ 16:

For the record, left to right, top to bottom:

Rick Davis, Frank Donatelli, [Scrooge], Charlie Black
Wayne Berman, Randy Schneunemann, John Green, Nancy Pfotenhauer

I think I got that right...

Very Cool. That's called getting the job done. Thanks.

What is it about McCain? He surrounds himself with old white men an good looking women? It reminds me of the Faux News Channel. Pretty creepy.

There's so much fodder for great Obama ads.

The "Bridge to Nowhere" lie/flop, of course.
Troopergate.
Showing Palin gunning down wolves from a plane or helicopter.
Palin demanding that books be banned from a library.

And so much more ... etc. etc.

Great Ad. Need more of them. Appetite is not fulfilled.

Guitar Man @ 3:

Nice to see the correct word being used, LIE.

More problems for Palin.

Ron Paul won't endorse McCain.

Obama getting tougher.

Things are gonna change, I can feel it (Beck?).

Peace.

I just heard on Maddow's show that Ron Paul is trying to get on the Montana ballot and McCain is worried about it....Developing...

No Mavericks,
just Model T John,
and Mustang Sarah.

Jo @ 22 (I hate it when I can't quote...)

I believe so. Schneunemann was also a cheerleader for the Iraq invasion:

<a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/17/randy_scheunemann_mccain_advis.html"

Abbybwood @ 29:

Guitar Man @ 3:

Nice to see the correct word being used, LIE.

More problems for Palin.

Ron Paul won't endorse McCain.

Obama getting tougher.

Things are gonna change, I can feel it (Beck?).

Peace.

I just heard on Maddow's show that Ron Paul is trying to get on the Montana ballot and McCain is worried about it....Developing...

And Bob Barr is suing to keep both McCain and Obama off the Texas ballot, because they filed too late.

KO just ripped the GOP a new one on the "branding" of 9/11 by the GOP. As usual, spot on and highly critical, the Special Comment also ripped Sen. McCain for his (paraphrased) Elect me President and I'll catch OBL. Sen. McCain, do you know how to catch OBL? Well, we're waiting.
Frankly, I don't believe he has any better of a plan than the current administration who took the national unity of 9/11 and squandered it on a reckless, poorly planned adventure in Iraq. I remember stories of assets in place in Afghanistan with reliable intel on OBL's location only to be called off by BushCo. And so, on to Iraq without so much as a second thought to fulfilling the promise made at the WTC to go to the ends of the earth to capture or kill OBL.
Whatever else we do, we must not let the GOP continue it's reign of terror in the USA!

Orangutan @ 21, I love the your screen name link.

Sorry I didn't notice earlier.

JimboSlice @ 13:

lj @ 4:

What are the names of the McCain Lobbyists and who do they lobby for? Does anyone know?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200802260009

Take a look right there, wayy too many to list.

Geez what a list! I have to save this one. Thanks, and why isn't more made of this? Nancy Pfoten.... is one of those annoying permagrin blondes who's on all the time, and who constantly interrupts everyone. These people should be shown as examples of how the Repubs are controlled by big business. Put them on the defensive for once.

Echoing guitarman3 -- finally they are using the right word. LIE.

ReTHUGlicans almost always attack in order to cover up their own crimes / lies / hypocrisy / sex lives.

VietVet8666 @ 10:

Yes, attack your enemy.

Don't tell me why to vote for you.

Don't give me a positive message.

Give me a negative message.

Just be good at the negative-message thing. Don't be half-assed.

Since you are a Vet, how would this work for you as a message???

McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.

McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.

McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq.

McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.

As opposed to what Obama did in the Senate for Veterans?

13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:

* Improve Benefits (117)
* Suicide prevention (479)
* Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
* Homes for veterans (1084)
* GI Bill enhancement (43)
* Military job protection
* Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
* Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
* Military children in public schools (2151)
* Military eye injury research and care (1999)
* Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
* Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
* Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

Most of his legislative effort has been in the areas of:

* Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills)
* Health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills)
* Consumer protection/labor (14 bills)
* The needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills)
* Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills)
* Foreign Policy (10 bills)
* Voting and Elections (9 bills)
* Education (7 bills)
* Hurricane Katrina Relief (6)
* The Environment (5 bills)
* Homeland Security (4 bills)
* Discrimination (4 bills)

How's that for Vets for Obama???

surf (hussein) jac @ 33:

KO just ripped the GOP a new one on the "branding" of 9/11 by the GOP. As usual, spot on and highly critical, the Special Comment also ripped Sen. McCain for his (paraphrased) Elect me President and I'll catch OBL. Sen. McCain, do you know how to catch OBL? Well, we're waiting.
Frankly, I don't believe he has any better of a plan than the current administration who took the national unity of 9/11 and squandered it on a reckless, poorly planned adventure in Iraq. I remember stories of assets in place in Afghanistan with reliable intel on OBL's location only to be called off by BushCo. And so, on to Iraq without so much as a second thought to fulfilling the promise made at the WTC to go to the ends of the earth to capture or kill OBL.
Whatever else we do, we must not let the GOP continue it's reign of terror in the USA!

Gee, maybe if McCain/Palin really cared about the USA, they would share their secret plan to capture Osama bin Laden with the US military, so they could catch him NOW.

BigIslandDave @ 27:

There's so much fodder for great Obama ads.

The "Bridge to Nowhere" lie/flop, of course.
Troopergate.
Showing Palin gunning down wolves from a plane or helicopter.
Palin demanding that books be banned from a library.

And so much more ... etc. etc.

Is there video of her actually gunning down wolves? I need a link to that, please.
And, one other thing, Palin went into the library and asked the librarian how she (Palin) could find out how to get books banned from the library.

I think Palin is a Fascist scumbucket but if we use innuendo and gossip we are no better than Fuck Snooze.

A little OT, but we're talking about liars aren't we? Sitemonitor? Could you pass this on to someone to see if it's newsworthy?

Lose Your House [in Michigan], Lose Your Vote

http://www.michiganmessenger.com/4076/lose-your-house-lose-your-vote

McPale's Navy @ 31:

Jo @ 22 (I hate it when I can't quote...)

I believe so. Schneunemann was also a cheerleader for the Iraq invasion:

<a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/17/randy_scheunemann_mccain_advis.html"

I hated it too until I switched to Firefox.
Thanks for the added info!

IN A RELATED STORY..... Midwest farmers surprised when PIGS everywhere went on strike for being compared to SARAH PALIN

Rasputin @ 38:

VietVet8666 @ 10:

Yes, attack your enemy.

Don't tell me why to vote for you.

Don't give me a positive message.

Give me a negative message.

Just be good at the negative-message thing. Don't be half-assed.

Since you are a Vet, how would this work for you as a message???

McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.

McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.

McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq.

McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.

As opposed to what Obama did in the Senate for Veterans?

13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:

* Improve Benefits (117)
* Suicide prevention (479)
* Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
* Homes for veterans (1084)
* GI Bill enhancement (43)
* Military job protection
* Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
* Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
* Military children in public schools (2151)
* Military eye injury research and care (1999)
* Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
* Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
* Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

Most of his legislative effort has been in the areas of:

* Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills)
* Health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills)
* Consumer protection/labor (14 bills)
* The needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills)
* Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills)
* Foreign Policy (10 bills)
* Voting and Elections (9 bills)
* Education (7 bills)
* Hurricane Katrina Relief (6)
* The Environment (5 bills)
* Homeland Security (4 bills)
* Discrimination (4 bills)

How's that for Vets for Obama???

Do we have permission to spread this around?

Forrestal Gump @ 39:

surf (hussein) jac @ 33:

KO just ripped the GOP a new one on the "branding" of 9/11 by the GOP. As usual, spot on and highly critical, the Special Comment also ripped Sen. McCain for his (paraphrased) Elect me President and I'll catch OBL. Sen. McCain, do you know how to catch OBL? Well, we're waiting.
Frankly, I don't believe he has any better of a plan than the current administration who took the national unity of 9/11 and squandered it on a reckless, poorly planned adventure in Iraq. I remember stories of assets in place in Afghanistan with reliable intel on OBL's location only to be called off by BushCo. And so, on to Iraq without so much as a second thought to fulfilling the promise made at the WTC to go to the ends of the earth to capture or kill OBL.
Whatever else we do, we must not let the GOP continue it's reign of terror in the USA!

That, of course, was KO's point! However, I think we all know that its another McCain "open mouth, insert foot" moment!
Gee, maybe if McCain/Palin really cared about the USA, they would share their secret plan to capture Osama bin Laden with the US military, so they could catch him NOW.

VietVet8666 @ 10:

Yes, attack your enemy.

Don't tell me why to vote for you.

Don't give me a positive message.

Give me a negative message.

Just be good at the negative-message thing. Don't be half-assed.

He has been giving a positive message, jackass. However, it's time to ramp up against the opposition. I mean why not? McCain's camp has been doing it to Obama for a whilke now.

One of the synonyms for maverick is eccentric
I think loose cannon would also be appropriate.

I want someone who gives thought to his actions in the White House.

Ras@38.
Don't forget to mention the GOPers are trying to privatize the VA now.
That means the INS industry will be calling the shots.
To bad if you have a pre-existing condition. Hmmmmm? I wonder how some of these Vets got them? (pre-existing conditions)

Harder - go straight for the nutts. Everyone knows Bush lied about the war and lies about nearly everything. Bush has made lying a republican brand. There has never been more material for bringing down the elite scumbags. Honestly - you couldn't make this stuff up!

Obama - you were too quick to abandon the real mavericks who supported you early on, every election democrats try to win by being appealing to republicans. It never, never, never works. It looks foolish. Democrats do not make good republicans. It makes us look phony and weak. We understand your reasoning, but it simply won't change republicans and will not excite the core who have given up or are close to giving up. No more talk about how insurance companies need to help formulate health care reform, or oil companies need to help reformulate energy policy or wall street needs to help reform wall street. Or that telephone companies need to spy on Americans to save Americans.

Help your early workers get excited again. Give us a sign that you want to beat McCain. Use every attack tactic in the book, grab the old man by his diaper and give him a wedgie as you roll him out of washington. Cut the legs off his walker. Steal his Viagra. Otherwise, Mr. Magoo and the Church Lady will be president. Again. And again. And we'll all wonder what ever happened to the guy who ran for president and had that big rock concert in Denver...

So will McCain hold another fake outrage press conference tomorrow? "You can't call us liars, that's sexist!"

surf (hussein) jac @ 44:

Rasputin @ 38:

VietVet8666 @ 10:

Yes, attack your enemy.

Don't tell me why to vote for you.

Don't give me a positive message.

Give me a negative message.

Just be good at the negative-message thing. Don't be half-assed.

Since you are a Vet, how would this work for you as a message???

McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments.

McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.

McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq.

McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.

As opposed to what Obama did in the Senate for Veterans?

13 addressed the Needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces:

* Improve Benefits (117)
* Suicide prevention (479)
* Needs of homeless veterans (1180)
* Homes for veterans (1084)
* GI Bill enhancement (43)
* Military job protection
* Dignity in care for wounded vets (713)
* Housing assistance for low income veterans (1084)
* Military children in public schools (2151)
* Military eye injury research and care (1999)
* Research physical/mental health needs from Iraq War (1271)
* Proper administration of discharge for personality disorder (1817, 1885)
* Security of personal data of veterans (3592)

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

Most of his legislative effort has been in the areas of:

* Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills)
* Health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills)
* Consumer protection/labor (14 bills)
* The needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills)
* Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills)
* Foreign Policy (10 bills)
* Voting and Elections (9 bills)
* Education (7 bills)
* Hurricane Katrina Relief (6)
* The Environment (5 bills)
* Homeland Security (4 bills)
* Discrimination (4 bills)

How's that for Vets for Obama???

Do we have permission to spread this around?

Of course you do!

Here is the source link for Obama's record and the two bloggers that took the time to wade through the congressional record. The numbers after the Acts/bills are their congressional docket numbers for verification:

Obama's Senate Record
http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/obamas-senate-accomplishments/

I'm glad he used the word "lie" in there! None of this hedging language about spinning the truth. Call them like you seem em. Lies.

I loved the way that Mathews took the lipstick off those Repub pigs tonight. Maybe there is hope?
Most of the time you can fry them with their own words if you keep on them, and don't allow them NOT answer a direct question by attacking Obama.
When they try to avoid answering that means you've got them cornered. Go after them, and stay after them...they are trained well.

LYING! LYING! LYING! republicans LIARS! LIARS! mcpalin LIED LYING LIAR bush PIECE OF SHIT!

(sorry about that last one, but it felt good to say in context with the others...)

'bout time Obama started using the correct word--KEEP IT UP!

I'd like to see this ad:

It's 3AM, and the President has just croaked. Whom do you trust with the nuclear football?

Joe Biden, he won't try to fulfill a prophecy.

Forrestal Gump @ 55:

I'd like to see this ad:

It's 3AM, and the President has just croaked. Whom do you trust with the nuclear football?

Joe Biden, he won't try to fulfill a prophecy.

WOW!!!

Jo @ 42:

And thank you for the reminder re: FireFox. I'll get on it.

Another link re: the campaign advisors for the curiously informed:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/09/mccain.lobbying/

One of the things that cracked me up was when KO showed at least four clips of Sen. McCain using "lipstick on a pig".
Oh well, just another way to deflect actually talking about things that really matter.

I like it, let's keep ads like this coming, two can play this game.

Barrett D @ 18:

i'm pretty sure i've heard that voice on discovery channel all the time!

The voice is the only thing bad on the ad. It sounds kind of like a political weenie trying to be a tough guy. Why couldn't Barack do the voice on it?

I think it would be good to have Barack attach himself to it directly. Its tough but its fair criticism. Barack would lend credibility to the charges, and he'd look informed and tougher.

my two cents.

Forrestal Gump @ 55:

I'd like to see this ad:

It's 3AM, and the President has just croaked. Whom do you trust with the nuclear football?

Joe Biden, he won't try to fulfill a prophecy.

You're hired!

Old Billy Hussein @ 59:

Barrett D @ 18:

i'm pretty sure i've heard that voice on discovery channel all the time!

The voice is the only thing bad on the ad. It sounds kind of like a political weenie trying to be a tough guy. Why couldn't Barack do the voice on it?

I think it would be good to have Barack attach himself to it directly. Its tough but its fair criticism. Barack would lend credibility to the charges, and he'd look informed and tougher.

my two cents.

Do you really expect the candidates to be everywhere all the time? Find something legitimate to complain about.

55 Forrestal Gump Says: I’d like to see this ad:

It’s 3AM, and the President has just croaked. Whom do you trust with the nuclear football?

Joe Biden, he won’t try to fulfill a prophecy.

I heard Randi Rhodes use this same argument today. It's so true. And one of the main reasons we don't need Ms. Nutcase, who believes Mary and Joseph were White and speaking in English while riding that donkey into Jerusalem, as our V.P.

Hey, I just wanted to tell you about this little experiment I did.

I just returned from putting bright red Revlon lipstick on a pig. And.........the pig is still just as qualified as Sarah Palin to be Vice President.

Humph. Maybe if I graft a pair of wings on it....

McPale's Navy @ 16:

For the record, left to right, top to bottom:

Rick Davis, Frank Donatelli, [Scrooge], Charlie Black
Wayne Berman, Randy Schneunemann, John Green, Nancy Pfotenhauer

I think I got that right...

I got some of their firms and stuff from a WaPo post (I think? Maybe a :

Rick Davis, Campaign Manager. Lobbyist, Davis Manafort.

Christian Ferry, Deputy Campaign Manager. Lobbyist, Davis Manafort.

Charles R. Black Jr., Senior Adviser. Lobbyist, BKSH & Associates.

John Green, Director of Congressional Affairs. Lobbyist, Ogilvy Government Relations.

Susan Nelson, Finance Director. Lobbyist, Loeffler Group.

Boring Scott @ 2:

Is it just me or does that top-left photo look like Jeffrey Dahmer?

That dude needs to get a different frame for his eyeglasses. Those are definitely Dahmer specials. You'd think a-holes whose specialty is framing things would get that.

Rasputin @ 38... You kick ass.

Ron @ 61:

Old Billy Hussein @ 59:

Barrett D @ 18:

i'm pretty sure i've heard that voice on discovery channel all the time!

The voice is the only thing bad on the ad. It sounds kind of like a political weenie trying to be a tough guy. Why couldn't Barack do the voice on it?

I think it would be good to have Barack attach himself to it directly. Its tough but its fair criticism. Barack would lend credibility to the charges, and he'd look informed and tougher.

my two cents.

Do you really expect the candidates to be everywhere all the time? Find something legitimate to complain about.

You get me wrong. That was constructive criticism in case anyone here knows the ad or campaign people. I thought the ad was great.

If Barack is too busy, maybe he could use a voice double.

Hell, maybe having a couple body doubles would boost the number of rallies he could do. He could be just like Kim Jong Il.

WAIT!!!! That's the next great attack. We spread a viscous viral email campaign that McSame is so old that he has to use body doubles. [then have a scary, James Earl Jones voice say] "Just like Saddam Hussein."

Peter G @ 65:

Boring Scott @ 2:

Is it just me or does that top-left photo look like Jeffrey Dahmer?

That dude needs to get a different frame for his eyeglasses. Those are definitely Dahmer specials. You'd think a-holes whose specialty is framing things would get that.

I'm pretty sure Dahmer was a Republican lobbyist though. Either that or a Ring Wraith.

Old Billy Hussein @ 67:
I think I mean "...a vicous viral email campaign that McSame is so old that he has to use body doubles."

Here's another ad. (Not original, I heard it on Thom Hartman today).
Wheel of Fortune board, Obama, Biden, McCain and Palin each have a quarter of the wheel. Contestant spins the wheel, it ends up on either McCain or Palin. The contestant says, "That's not spin, that's a lie!".

I like to find the humorous side in politics. Look at the type of stuff that is created based on Palin's "famous" maverick references htt://www.cafepress.com/ObamaMaverick08. I'm particularly annoyed by Sarah Palin, especially the maverick lines. SNL's spoof of the VP debate was priceless.

I like to find the humorous side in politics. Look at the type of stuff that is created based on Palin's "famous" maverick references http://www.cafepress.com/ObamaMaverick08. I'm particularly annoyed by Sarah Palin, especially the maverick lines. SNL's spoof of the VP debate was priceless.

mudshark @ 48:

Ras@38.
Don't forget to mention the GOPers are trying to privatize the VA now.
That means the INS industry will be calling the shots.
To bad if you have a pre-existing condition. Hmmmmm? I wonder how some of these Vets got them? (pre-existing conditions)

You've raised a very good point... if they do privatize the VA would the standard "preexisting condition exclusion come into play with Vets?

They did try this with some Vets PTSD cases and ruled that they were preexisting.

Rasputin @ 71:

mudshark @ 48:

Ras@38.
Don't forget to mention the GOPers are trying to privatize the VA now.
That means the INS industry will be calling the shots.
To bad if you have a pre-existing condition. Hmmmmm? I wonder how some of these Vets got them? (pre-existing conditions)

You've raised a very good point... if they do privatize the VA would the standard "preexisting condition exclusion come into play with Vets?

They did try this with some Vets PTSD cases and ruled that they were preexisting.

I wouldn't try to inject something into your conversation Ras, if I didn't think it was worth it.
Have at it brother. Now is the time.

This one almost makes the grade but it just doesn't stoke enough anger at the Republicans for being the lying sacks of shit that they are. Put another way, once again the Democrats lack the killer instinct that have made the Republicans so successful. Ideally, Obama and company should be able to turn McCain's dishonesty against him. It's obvious that they're playing the electorate for suckers and are laughing at them behind their backs. That's a wedge issue that can work for us.

Yeee-OUCH! That's GOTTA hurt! hee hee hee. About. Effing. Time.

I can only assume that it has been a case of so many riches of lies, distortions, flip-flops. buggery,...(okay, not the last one, but you get the idea...) that they were immobilized by the sheer volume.

Please, sir, may I have some more?

Hieronymus Braintree @ 74:

This one almost makes the grade but it just doesn't stoke enough anger at the Republicans for being the lying sacks of shit that they are. Put another way, once again the Democrats lack the killer instinct that have made the Republicans so successful. Ideally, Obama and company should be able to turn McCain's dishonesty against him. It's obvious that they're playing the electorate for suckers and are laughing at them behind their backs. That's a wedge issue that can work for us.

Spot on. Nothing will convince republicans to vote democratic. Its the democratic core who need motivation. There is nothing motivational about Obama's campaign. Democrats are smart and cynical and this doesn't go far enough to bring out the vote and the outrage isn't palpable. Yes, we already know politicians are habitual and compulsive liars. You need to make clear that republicans have gone out of control and explain why that hurts us as a nation. You might even suggest Jesus(TM) wouldn't be happy with his follower's example.

mudshark @ 73:

Rasputin @ 71:

mudshark @ 48:

Ras@38.
Don't forget to mention the GOPers are trying to privatize the VA now.
That means the INS industry will be calling the shots.
To bad if you have a pre-existing condition. Hmmmmm? I wonder how some of these Vets got them? (pre-existing conditions)

You've raised a very good point... if they do privatize the VA would the standard "preexisting condition exclusion come into play with Vets?

They did try this with some Vets PTSD cases and ruled that they were preexisting.

I wouldn't try to inject something into your conversation Ras, if I didn't think it was worth it.
Have at it brother. Now is the time.

You have indeed raised a point that deserves to be looked into Muddy... good on ya!

Old Billy Hussein @ 65:

McPale's Navy @ 16:

For the record, left to right, top to bottom:

Rick Davis, Frank Donatelli, [Scrooge], Charlie Black
Wayne Berman, Randy Schneunemann, John Green, Nancy Pfotenhauer

I think I got that right...

I got some of their firms and stuff from a WaPo post (I think? Maybe a :

Rick Davis, Campaign Manager. Lobbyist, Davis Manafort.

Christian Ferry, Deputy Campaign Manager. Lobbyist, Davis Manafort.

Charles R. Black Jr., Senior Adviser. Lobbyist, BKSH & Associates.

John Green, Director of Congressional Affairs. Lobbyist, Ogilvy Government Relations.

Susan Nelson, Finance Director. Lobbyist, Loeffler Group.

Oops, I thought those would be the ones.

Umm, let's see, Scheunemann was with Orion Strategies, LLC.

Nancy Pfotenhauer is a nutcase. I don't know that she's a lobbyist. She was President or something of the Independent Women's Forem (which I thought was Phyllis Schlafly's horrible anti-women group) and some executive with the Americans for Prosperity craptacular.

Frank Donatelli, former YAF weirdo and Reagan butt-licker, is at McGuireWoods Consulting.

Wayne Berman is with Ogilvy, formerly with Federal Group, I think.

mudshark @ 73:

Rasputin @ 71:

mudshark @ 48:

Ras@38.
Don't forget to mention the GOPers are trying to privatize the VA now.
That means the INS industry will be calling the shots.
To bad if you have a pre-existing condition. Hmmmmm? I wonder how some of these Vets got them? (pre-existing conditions)

You've raised a very good point... if they do privatize the VA would the standard "preexisting condition exclusion come into play with Vets?

They did try this with some Vets PTSD cases and ruled that they were preexisting.

I wouldn't try to inject something into your conversation Ras, if I didn't think it was worth it.
Have at it brother. Now is the time.

Muddy...

Privatize the VA with McCain's health care "expert" and there is no telling what the result would be!

You can judge a man by the company that he keeps...

John Goodman… McCain’s Health Care Plan adviser
A.K.A. Johnny “There are no uninsured” Goodman

Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain's health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)

"So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime," Mr. Goodman said. "The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.

"So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-Uninsured_27b...

The Obama campaign has not learned the first thing about psychology 101: never repeat the words the opposition uses to define itself; never even negate them. The only thing that sticks in the viewer/listener's mind is "maverick".

The people running this campaign are completely incompetent. What the hell is Obama paying them for?

Actually, Mr. Obama, you call it "lying". In person, in your speeches. Try it out, it's liberating.

Will you let the Church Lady be President? @ 76:

Hieronymus Braintree @ 74:

This one almost makes the grade but it just doesn't stoke enough anger at the Republicans for being the lying sacks of shit that they are. Put another way, once again the Democrats lack the killer instinct that have made the Republicans so successful. Ideally, Obama and company should be able to turn McCain's dishonesty against him. It's obvious that they're playing the electorate for suckers and are laughing at them behind their backs. That's a wedge issue that can work for us.

Spot on. Nothing will convince republicans to vote democratic. Its the democratic core who need motivation. There is nothing motivational about Obama's campaign. Democrats are smart and cynical and this doesn't go far enough to bring out the vote and the outrage isn't palpable. Yes, we already know politicians are habitual and compulsive liars. You need to make clear that republicans have gone out of control and explain why that hurts us as a nation. You might even suggest Jesus(TM) wouldn't be happy with his follower's example.

"they think you're stupid"
That's still the best line to repeat
you guys are Obama's base, does anything make you wanna beat McCain more than being reminded that the republicans think our fellow citizens (& you) are all a bunch of morons that will buy anything?
Properly labeling them the liars that they are is the 1st step.
Then you answer the question posed by that fact: why are they such inveterate liars?
Because they are scamming you, the last 8 years have been 1 big scam to enrich themselves with power & their corporate friends with profits.
They are lying because they managed to fool just barely enough people last time, & a great president once said you can fool most of the people some of the time,
But a certainly not great president once said "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, can't get fooled again."
So the only area where McCain & Bush disagree is that even the most unpopular president in the modern era doesn't think this scheme can work a third time.
Al Gore never claimed to have "invented" the internet. John Kerry earned those medals. Barack Obama is not a secret Muslim.
Whatever background you come from, you're too "elite" for this crap now.

i don't know how well such a message would play but i think it's at least unique.

also it just struck me (cuz i'm full of advice 2nite)
Guy should identify some large universities in the major swing states & throw down a few of those hope, hope, hope, change, change, change speeches in front of 30-70,000 of his closest friends. The corporate media is sick of them but they keep saying how most people haven't been paying attention until now. Plus they would dominate just about any news cycle and be a registration bonanza.
"They say the republicans' vice presidential nominee can really draw a crowd, do you think we can compete with the enthusiasm on their side?"
might be a good line.

VietVet8666 @ 10:

Yes, attack your enemy.

Don't tell me why to vote for you.

Don't give me a positive message.

Give me a negative message.

Just be good at the negative-message thing. Don't be half-assed.

you mean like the rethuglicans have been doing all along....?...

According to dictionary.com, the number one definition of "maverick" is...

an unbranded calf, cow, or steer, esp. an unbranded calf that is separated from its mother.

According to the American Heritage Dictionary, the number one definition of "maverick" is...

An unbranded range animal, especially a calf that has become separated from its mother, traditionally considered the property of the first person who brands it.

Traditionally considered the property of the first person who brands it.

Nice.

Long Suffering Progressive @ 52:

I'm glad he used the word "lie" in there! None of this hedging language about spinning the truth. Call them like you seem em. Lies.

in one of several cross-talking interviews, a dem claimed distortions... and the repig claimed that she heard no one claimed factual innacuracy... point went to repig.... hmmm... that's exactly the point that the dems are missing... it's time to stop being polite, or courteous... or even politically correct... McLiar LIES all the time... Palin LIES all the time... EVERY repig LIES ALL THE F***ING TIME!!!... ENOUGH!!!.... call them what they are, lies, damned lies and fake statistics... dems... you gotta take the kid gloves off, 'cause this IS war... even if you don't want to think that way, the repigs do... and until dems go on the offense, they will continue to be wasting their efforts on defense... offense IS the best defense... and the repigs know this... why not hit them back hard...?... doing so doesn't in any way make denigrate them... it in fact, shows the country that they're willing to fight as hard as is needed to gain the respect of the entire spectrum of the american people... and is the only way to convince the warhawk repigs that the dems actually can defend them... here's an example from a youtube comment from the interview Obama had with o'lielly:

"youngoldmoney127 - shit i originally was going to vote for mccain because i thought that obama was a bitch. but now i see that he have ball for going to the show with bill. that like a nigga going to a KKK meeting. i made up my mind. obama 08 and 12"

taking a hard line against the lies is the ONLY way to turn these types around

McCain is the kind of "maverick" who wouldn't think twice about launching nuclear weapons. He'd just squeeze his eyes shut, put a grimace on his pudding face and push the button.

The majic word polititions will not use , finally ! You cannot be PC and polite with these dirty bastards and win , tell it like it is , tell the straight up truth and use the forbidden words lie , lies and liars , expose them , repeat the truth often enough and maybe the morons in this country will begin to believe it .

I agree with former president Bill Clinton, Barack may not have much experience relative to presidency, and he may be a Illinois back alley thug politician, but that is exactly the kind of leader we need in this country. An eloquent Harvard Law School degree explaining homosexuality to kindergartners. Fills my eyes with tears just thinking about it. When I saw that P. Diddy is his appointed Get Out the Vote Celebrity I could hardly contain my enthusiasm. When a drug using adulterering, lying, thug endorses a candidate and puts that old crocker McCain in his place on his Myspace videos, I move all my chips to the middle of the table. You?

Dustin @ 90:

I agree with former president Bill Clinton, Barack may not have much experience relative to presidency, and he may be a Illinois back alley thug politician, but that is exactly the kind of leader we need in this country. An eloquent Harvard Law School degree explaining homosexuality to kindergartners. Fills my eyes with tears just thinking about it. When I saw that P. Diddy is his appointed Get Out the Vote Celebrity I could hardly contain my enthusiasm. When a drug using adulterering, lying, thug endorses a candidate and puts that old crocker McCain in his place on his Myspace videos, I move all my chips to the middle of the table. You?

if the best you have is an under-educated clod who fantasizes about kicking bad-guys' asses and an attack dog with lipstick... then i'm happy to double your bet... ;-)

GREAT AD AND OH SO TRUE.

Boring Scott @
Is it just me or does that top-left photo look like Jeffrey Dahmer?

That is really funny, had me laughing out loud. You' re right.

OMG!!! Chris Matthews bitch slapped that right wing nut on Hardball tonight!!!!!

I'm afraid the Republicans are going to steal the elections anyway, so what's all the fuss? The mass media moguls are already telling the public that it's an even race, with some polls showing McCain ahead.

Right. Yet other polls show the public has a very low opinion of Republicans, George W. in particular, and then tell us Americans prefer McCain over a Democrat? Any Democrat, much less one with Obama's appeal? Republicans will not allow such an "unknown" quantity as Obama to win office. I'm sure Obama has assured them and AIPAC that he's "Okay" but the Republicans would feel better if he were more compromised or had a better history of taking bribes and threats. Guys like Biden and McCain, part of the Establishment furniture.

At worst, the Republicans will win just a big enough "victory" to prevent the Democrats and Independents from doing anything. Our "Homeland Security Police State" will remain intact and our country will continue descending into a Brave New World of fascism.

And the Zionists will be dancing on our graves.

Old Billy Hussein @ 60:

Barrett D @ 18:

i'm pretty sure i've heard that voice on discovery channel all the time!

The voice is the only thing bad on the ad. It sounds kind of like a political weenie trying to be a tough guy. Why couldn't Barack do the voice on it?

pffft i think its a great voice! he narrates a show about big construction projects on discovery HD. you gotta sound tough, its big machinery and men and stuff!

With all of these Evangelicals warmly embracing McPain/Palin and their lies (about seemingly everything), maybe they should open up their Bibles for a refresher course on the Ten Commandments:

#8: You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

.They should not be saying what he is not. They need to brand him for what he IS , and they shouldn't be using his "maverick" moniker. Give him one of thei own and make it stick! No long-winded message when this guy is just a dude cowboy.

Dem ads are always aimed at the intellect. We need a "Willie Horton" ad. Something that scares hell out of people.

An ad showing what a McCain presidency will look like: War with Iran. The draft. Body bags. Economic ruin. Foreclosures. $6 gas. Lines of unemployed.

An ad showing a decrepit old man and a bible-quoting fanatic playing with the Nuclear Football.

An ad showing regular people talking about how vicious and mean Sarah Palin is.

An ad campaign that swift boats McCain's war record, his extramarital affairs. How he's a dirty old man who married a young girl for her money...

We need to get dirty.

How many of the Ten Commandments have McCain and Palin broken? I can't wait for her extra-marital affair with her husband's friend to be proven.

Let's see Talibunny dance around that.

Republicans are liars and cannot be trusted.

orwell's doormat @ 100:

How about this idea...

Visual: McCain with a weird facial expression.
Voiceover: Why can't John McCain tell the truth?

Segments:
VO: John McCain implied Obama was a Muslim. Not true.
Visual: On "Not true" a big rubber stamp comes on screen with appropriate stamping sound and leaves the imprint — L I E !

Several more segments follow about the other lies (take your pick) and the same rubber stamp routine.

Ending:
Visual: Another weird pic of McCain
VO: If John McCain won't tell the truth now, how can he be trusted to tell the truth as President?

Logo: Barack Obama
VO: Barack Obama for Change.

How about this for an attack ad:

Picture flashes up of women in Burkhas. Picture of Taliban members. Picture of scared looking Dafuri Women. Picture of Janjaweed man on horseback
V/O- They don't care about women's rights.
Picture of McCain/Palin.
V/O- Neither do they.
Dramatic music and text that says McCain/Palin are anti contraception, anti abortion and anti equal pay for women.

Back to McCain/Palin and Taliban/Janjaweed.
V/0 Is this the change you want?

What I wanna know, was that voice over Tommy Barnyard from KQRS-FM Minneapolis?

If it is he musta had an awakening, when I last listened to him he was turning into a fukin' wingnut

The Dems have to make this election about issues, don't let the rethugs have the power of framing this election to be about silly mavericks, POWs and lipstick.

Rick W @ 105:

The Dems have to make this election about issues, don't let the rethugs have the power of framing this election to be about silly mavericks, POWs and lipstick.

I agree, I also think this ad is OK as one ad, but as we go into the elections people have already started forgetting about Bush and his legacy and how dreadful it was. Their minds are turned to the future.
the message I feel is lacking from the Obama camp is to paint the whole of the last 8 years in its truley horrible light - torture, imprisonment without trial, corruption of justice - A march away from American ideals and standards, and of course tie McCain and the repugs to this and at the same time promise a future of changing directions and getting back on track. It is a tall order, and I am not an ad man, but I feel dread as this election slips away to the republicans' clever gimmicks. I don't know whether the world can stand another four years.
Ultimately American elections seem to be about gut reactions and dreams. Palin is a master stroke - it plays to the old movie theme of the unknown small-towner reaching the heights of fame and glory, with the added feature of a female hero who can shoot, and field dress a moose. Most white people loves it. It is a tribute to the progress the US has made in terms of race that Obama is a candidate. He is a very sharp and intelligent and his heart is in the fright place. But people should not underestimate the amount of subconscious prejudice, it is going to be a very tough battle, and Obama is going to have to have to improve his campaign and find a way to neutralize the republicans dirty tricks and sell a dream people can believe in.
One of his biggest problems is his color. It is a tribute to how far the US has come that he is even a candidate, but it is impossible to overestimate the amount of unconscious prejudice out there. McCain knows this and his ad on Obama trying to force sex education on pre-schoolers is cleverly crafted to make people feel uncomfortable with Obama, as were his "clebrity" ads. I don't know how he can do it, but Obama needs to turn this into a strength, that his story is a real American dream people can relate to, and they should be proud of their country, and fight to take it back

Rick W@105: Ummm, yeah, well...no. I'm afraid not. If the last 30 years of electoral history have taught us nothing else, it's that people vote for parties first, candidates second, and issues/policies a way, way, distant...yeah, it's off the radar. Predicts nothing after accounting for the first two.

Again (and again and again with the Obama campaign) that ad was so-so at best. It just doesn't push a strong enough hate-the-GOP button to quote voting statistics and inside references like Bridges to Nowhere that 90% of the public won't even recognize. The lobbyist reference too only has impact if you actually know what a lobbyist does. My bet is that most people don't.

Obama has _got_ to tell a story about the greedy, self-serving, out-of-touch, corrupt-to-the-core, no-tuxedo-left-behind GOP that gets to people on a gut level that needs no explanation or inside knowledge. And then he's got to tie McCain and Palin inextricably to that story. Don't let them hide or run away from the history of bad ideas and extremist values their party represents.

Damn it, Barack, it's time to cowboy up already!!

“Politicians lying about their records? You don’t call that maverick, you call it more of the same.”

One improvement. I would have gone a little further. I would have said, “Politicians lying about their records? You don’t call them mavericks, you call them liars. You call that more of the same."

There. Quit dancing around the bush and dive right in. Do NOT use "stretching the truth" or "not telling the truth". Use "lying" and "liars". Better yet, use "dishonorable liars". Attack McCain's (false) supposed strength - his honor. He is anything but and really needs to be called on it.

We are going through our federal election campaign here in Canada (election date is Oct 14). My party, the New Democratic Party released a new ad here in Quebec. It would be interesting to see how an ad like this would play in the States.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkb_GgsOD4Q

It pretty much says that a vote for Stephen Harper's Conservative Party is a vote for war, intolerance, a regressive ideology, for George Bush, against Kyoto and environmental responsibility, against government support for the arts and culture, against gay marriage and for enslavement by Big Oil.

It plays the fear card and has a pretty slick Orwell's 1984ish look to it. It does stick to the issues.

How stupid. All these god damned politicians are the same. Obvamma and Hillary are no better than the other Christian terrorists and traitors who have fucked over and destroyed the United States. The whole notion that some politicians are some how better or different than the rest is why this fascist regime is in the White House in the first place.

Only morons vote.

Finally, a real ad! These GOP are liars, pure and simple. We need to call them on it, over and over or we're going to wake up and have another four years of this crap.

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