Chris Matthews Asks McCain Proxy How They Can Run Away From GOP Policies That Caused The Economic Meltdown
By Nicole Belle Monday Sep 15, 2008 11:00am 
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Let's give Chris Matthews credit for this one...he is absolutely gobsmacked that the McCain campaign can try to posture themselves as being for change and reform when it is the Republican policies that have put us in such a tremulous position economically. McCain Sr. Policy Advisor Nancy Pfotenhauer (herself a HUGE proponent of these failed policies and a lobbyist--along with her husband--to push these corporate first, country last policies) tries to put her best face on it, predictably claiming it is Democrats AND Republicans, but Matthews isn't having it.
MATTHEWS: But I don't understand...John McCain is the nominee of the Republican Party.
PFOTENHAUER: Yes.
MATTHEWS: He's going to stand in that debate next Friday night on the 26th, because he is the nominee of the Republican Party. That's why he has a 50/50 chance of winning this election. Because he is the nominee of the Republican Party and the other guy is the nominee-Barack Obama-of the Democratic Party. How can you run away from the party whose platform you're running on? I don't understand how you can deny that you're the in party, you're the incumbent party.
Well, exactly. This is the meme with which the Democratic Party ought to hit back hard. The Republican Party has had the better part of the last 30 years being in charge of Legislative or Executive branches, often both. THEY DO NOT GOVERN WELL. The country is much poorer for Republican policies. Why in the hell would we give another Republican a shot?
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Cindy McCain and Nancy Pfotenhauer both dress like Science Fiction villains. What is up with the strange collars they sport?
IT'S THE ECONOMY, STUPID!
BT @ 1:
They ARE Science Fiction villains. Easy, that one!
Republican gals sure looooove that Imperial look.
Nice WARdrobes.
As dumb as the average American is, I am really beginning to think that a large portion of the public DO NOT KNOW to which political party Bush and Cheney belong.
I wonder if there are recent polls?
Whataya mean how can they deny their record of the past eight years? Simple, the Neocon Republicans decided a long time ago that if Richard Nixon had just said, Fuck You! to his own party people along with everybody else, the history of the last third of the 20th Century would be entirely different. So today they follow the philosophy of 'never admit nothin'...deny...deny...deny...blame Democrats...blame Democrats...blame Democrats.'
The problem is that Jethro in Alabama and Billy Bob in Tenn. dont give a crapola what the economy does to them or their families. They WILL NOT vote for a black man- period! Until the MSM confronts this national disgrace, we will never be able to move on and have honest elections. Although the nation has more Democrats and Independents by a longshot, many chose to vote fear and stupidity, just take a look at 2000 and 2004. We knew that Bush was a jackass and would cause great damage, but Jethro in the south and Billy Bob in the mid-west driving a beat-up pickup truck didn't care. Just whip out a flag and scream Country first and these morons will vote against their interests. Many have lost their jobs and have no healthcare under Bush, McCain and his idiot sidekick Palin have NO answers, yet they say only McCain, who knows nothing about Economic policy, can help the country get out of this mess?
Are we living in the Twilight Zone?
OMG I just heard on the radio that McCain is calling for a study of the economy to find out what went wrong??!!! Try looking in the mirror you ASS-HAT! You and your fellow Fascists have been destroying the middle class sense Ronnie Raygun claimed that Government was the problem and if you give the rich more money it will trickle down to the great unwashed. You and your heroes have been out to drown the government and by extension the United States in a bathtub and you ask "what happened"??
Since they can't run an effective campaign against Obama, they have run a campaign against themselves.
BT @ 1:
Needed to prop up the empty heads.
Yes, I completely agree. We need to push this hard and make it stick. I saw a short video, I believe it was at Brave New Films, that had Bush saying something and then it cut to McCain saying the exact same thing. It was a very powerful add and the Obama campaign should run it.
I'm also wondering if the if we shouldn't check the voter cards of some of the advisers of the Obama campaign, you know the ones that keep telling him to compliment McCain and talk about what a good guy he is. I'm glad that Obama has started to get a little tougher though.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 3:
Also...it's to cover up the borg implants. Duh!
"Cindy McCain and Nancy Pfotenhauer both dress like Science Fiction villains. What is up with the strange collars they sport?"
They're in the wealthy elite. They live in bubbles where no one will EVER tell them to their face that they look ridiculous.
BT @ 1:
It's the new Diane Keaton line. Check it out at Saks.
BT @ 1:
Did you happen to see Nancy's collar today? She was sporting some black leather thing. I think she works part-time as a dominatrix.
I saw that full interview yesterday and for once I was cheering for Matthews. He actually flustered that stone cold smiling bitch, yes I said bitch. For weeks now I have watched this smug woman on interviews and I have wanted to shout JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION which she never does. She couldn't smile away the lies she was spewing and it was obvious that Matthews was going for the throat with his questions.
Why is it that almost all the Con women look like present or former high-priced hookers?
Abbybwood @ 14:
I hear it comes with gloves (cover up the age spots, ya know).
Freddy Knuckles @ 17:
Well..they are in essence, whoring themselves out.
And McCain might win after all, if the past voting record of the country is any indication. We are afflicted with a lot of truly stupid people in this country- the trouble is, our stupid people like to deify other stupid people politically.
Palin supports $600 million 'other' bridge
ANCHORAGE, Alaska - Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said "no thanks" to a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere.
But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, that's a different story.
A $600 million bridge and highway project to link Alaska's largest city to Palin's town of 7,000 residents is moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales.
More.....
btw, according to polls, Nader is taking votes away from McCain.
Just saying, C&L might want to rethink its attitude against Nader and his supporters.
Oh THAT'S brilliant... They sent a skinny blonde airhead chica with big lips (and I'm sure she has the prerequisite pouty pout to go with it).. to posture and spit out the talky talk talk points for Matthews to galk at.... That ought to be persuasive... Especially since she's a lobbyist and totally coopted on the subject. They've NEVER done that one before.....huh yuk yuk....... P.S. not convinced Chrisy has suddenly become a populist man of the people just because.... It might be nice to think he's reaquainting himself with honest jounrnalism, but I ain't convinced yet...................JD
She says "name me one economist who thinks it's a good idea to raise taxes in an economic downturn." Um...didn't Greenspan say just a couple days ago that McCain's across-the-board tax cuts were unsustainable? And didn't McCain's own economic advisor say the same thing? Incidentally, what economist thinks that tax cuts for the rich combined with increased spending in a time of war and ballooning national debt is a good idea?
How can they defend it? Simple. Just keep their candidates in an Al Gore LOCK BOX so the reporters can't ask them about it.
Did you see that Palin even had to postpone her interview with Sean "Myna bird" Hannity? I guess it's going to take her another week to memorize her talking points. Fair enough, but you know the Republicans are in real trouble when they're afraid to be interviewed by their own sock puppets.
McHypocrite is speaking right now about the economic meltdown. Here is a link to an article that illustrates just how hypocritical this is. Photenhauer's long goose neck is not the issue here folks.
http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php?aid=2767
It is very simple. 2 reasons. 1The Big lie-which is repeated over and over dispite being disproved. This is all for the "low info voter" the "SHEEPLE". 2-the Authoritarians, esp. the Authoritarian Follower who will blindly follow anything that their selected Authoritarian Leader or Leader/Follower says. For a complete description and access to all the studies-some of them multigenerational-done since the end of WWII. PLEASE!! GOOGLE AUTHORITARIANISM OR AUTHORITARIAN. It will help you understand the real threat to the American Republic as it currently stands.
Cindy and Nancy wear those high collar thingees to hide turkey necks. It a common ruse of older ladies.
celdem @ 25:
Obama is speaking right now about the same thing. Everything he says is bang on the money, and yet it's about as exciting as watching paint dry. Will somebody PLEASE stop force feeding this guy Valium! ENOUGH!
This woman appears to be a bloodsucking tick on the body politic......very disturbing person. Wall Street values all the way...............screw 'em all..........I deserve diamond buttons on my coat.
McCain is on automatic pilot........so who's really running the show? Prop him up, pull the strings, and fight to the death to CONTINUE ROBBING THIS COUNTRY BLIND.
This is obvious to even a simpleton.........Republicons are toast this November.
Not once does she say what McCain will do to reform or change the Bush policies that got us here. I pity these Neocon women who shill for the old men who can't govern.
They look like fools--smiling, lying fools.
Ask her if McCain agrees with his economic advisor, Phil Gramm, who is still calling America "a nation of whiners"--most recently, at the GOP Convention. If McCain does agree, ask him why Republicans speak about Americans one way behind closed doors and another way when they are pretending to care about the "real" Americans?
To those who note that racist Americans will not vote for a black man--that is true, and the Republican party is counting on this. I can tell you, though, that I know many older white Americans who are voting for Obama--things are changing. And this financial disaster brought to us courtesy of Bush and Republican-led Congress and Senate will change more minds.
See the AARP web site for Obama's (sound) and McCain's (lame) speeches about what matters to every older American. This sort of thing speaks to moderates from both parties, including people who thought they would never vote for a black man.
$$$$$$$$$ Millions of first-time donors of small amounts to Obama? That talks.
Don't be fooled by tweety. He would jump to the neocons in a nano-second if he thought it would be to his advantage. Now we have to watch the vote counters,they'll be working overtime to change the vote to republican. They have the voting machine hacking down real good.
not a collar, she's molting.
blah, blah, blah. I'm voting for that pretty woman.
how can any halfway intelligent patriotic american vote republican?
gwen @ 23:
He said tax cuts without cuts in spending. He's not opposed to tax cuts for his rich friends. He's opposed to tax cuts for his rich friends without fucking over the rest of the country.
Make no mistake, Greenback is not a hero by any stretch of the imagination. He's part of the problem. Either he saw this coming and didn't say anything about it or he didn't see it, which means he's not an economic genius. Pick your poison old man!!
Its funny that maccain and goons are trying to distant themselves from the very own party they represent!!! They are blaming and they are blaming republics, if everyone is corrupt then who are they themselves!!! They are floundering like a fish out of the water now.
Unemployment rate for women went from 4.6% in July to
5.3% in August the largest one-month spike in the
jobless rate for women in more than 33 yrs.
Just once I'd like to see a journalist say, "That was a wonderful answer, but it had nothing to do with my question. Try again."
gawd @ 33:
I didn't know Julia Roberts was running?
I know I get smacked down here at C&L for repeating Matthews has been slapping down for five long years. Smacking down Kristol, Frum and others who lied us into Iraq (I believe they will not even come on his program).
Dems and media needs to ask what would have happened with all those pensions had it been turned over to wall street.
reminds me of this song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOQ4f7YItX8
I hope Matthews ask someone about this Palin Troopergate issue. Will he ask some tough questions about this issue?
Will he focus on the lobbyist in the McCain campaign? Will he ask McCain about his plans to privatize social security? Will he invite Scott Ritter, Flynt Leverett and Juan Cole on to discuss Iran....
Saying that the Republican Party "does not govern well" is just like saying "bank robbers should not be trusted with your life savings."
Just EXACTLY like that.
Or that "you shouldn't give your guns to people who have just invaded your house intent on robbing you."
They are THIEVES pure and simple.
STOP CALLING THEM INCOMPETENT WHEN THEIR ONLY INTENT IS TO ROB US.
Stop giving them a free ride when the future of our nation and the world are at stake.
The Mountain Man has spoken !!
The current Rove-Cheney-Bush-Dobson GOP has managed to convince many silly American voters that hypocrisy is a VIRTUE rather than a VICE. Outright lies, distortions and smearings of liberals, Democrats or even moderate Republicans (a handful) all backed and funded by self-interested big lobbies and corporations have become the current GOP's mantras. Pretending to represent "real Americans" the GOP has its chief cheerleaders like Cindy McCain and Nancy Pfoterhauer dress in finery that runs into the hundreds of thousands of dollars as they parade on stage trying to convince the "little people" that "we're just like you, K-Mart shoppers" (that is until we get your votes, stupid, and then continue to fleece you). The sad commentary on this slime is that so many Americans fall for it.
Matthews is clearly going to vote for Obama. Clearly. He is sick of the destructive Republicans
Neural paths form in response to action and reward. Repeated actions and repeated rewards form stronger paths - hence, the basis of addiction: nothing says the action needs to be correct or otherwise beneficial.
The Rovians have manipulated the system, and when they say 'principles are more important than facts,' they're not lying. This is how they keep the sheep in line, and why conservative voters will buy into 'reform and change' from 'same old, same old' rather than from an uppity black man. It's why fear and 'oh, the terrorists are going to take over America! wail!' works so well.
nice to see the media finally going after McSame's campaign strategery of reform and honor. and from the reaction of their candidate and talking heads, they are not a happy camp to have this focus on their deceptions. i look for McCain to loose his temper big time during the debate. you can see it building in him and all Obama has to do is question his honor and integrity one time when they are side by side on stage. McCain will be facing this sort of continued press pressure for the next few days and couple of weeks leading into that first debate. the timing is near perfect for johnie's meltdown.
and also, now that matthews will not be leading the election coverage, he appears to have been somewhat liberated and able to challenge and question in a totally different way than we have seen in the last couple of election periods. i am sure the right winger whiners didnt see that coming when the complained and wanted him removed.
Smile. Laugh. Shake Your Head. Lie.
She's purdy.
Mike @ 21:
Ralph Nader hmmmm...isn't Ralph the ONE that helped put Bushy in the WH? Ralph's ego is larger than our deficits.
I find it beyond all imagining that PFOTENHAUER can say that the small business person's economic health is strong in this modern day American Hell called Bush/McCain economy? What planet does she live on? What is her idea of a small business person?
Small business is getting their respective clocks cleaned by these jack-booted Republican bastards who are march all over us on tv screens from coast to coast 24 hours a day to a slobbering press while McCain and his ilk sit at one of their many multi-million dollar kitchen tables rolling their fat greasy white bodies in piles of dirty cash and screaming at the top of their lungs to the tune of the Star Spangled Banner...
"Oh say can you see?"
How we screwed them and We...
Are so proud of our graft
At their suffering we just laughed"
Here is an economist that doesn't back McCain's economic plan - http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/mccain-endorser.html
From Mother Jones:
McCain Blasts Wall Street Failure, Neglects To Mention His Adviser Helped Cause It
Democratsrule @ 7:
'fraid so....
I will say one thing. She is HOT! :-)
I just watched a little of a speech that Sen. Obama is giving in Golden Col. Man, he was talking about the economy and wall street. He ripped into McCain and he ripped into Phil Gramm. It was excellent. If we don't elect his man to be preseident, we are a nation of simple shallow people. We have to grasp onto an intellectual this time around if we want to dig ourselves out this sewer hole we have been placed in for the past eight years. Forget having a beer with the candidate, let's have success with one we can be fu*king proud of!
Flash Gordon, The Musical -- Starring Chuck Norris and Nancy Footenhuffer.
uncle wally @ 42:
Watching this woman believe she is not lying reassures me that there is no future.
Kathleen @ 43:
We'll see...I hope he does.
Here we go again, trot out beautiful blonde to spew some bullshit talking points and watch the dumb-asses drool. What is it with McCain and the old white farts? Do they honestly think women fall for this crap?
This woman is creepy beyond belief. She is the GOP Stepford wife par excellence- always smiling while smoothly putting out her lies. She's simply not human. If you look for it, you'll probably find a cord plugged into a socket somewhere in her back. There must a factory somewhere where they're made.
pissed off patricia @ 56:
Yeah! THEN we can have a beer with him...one o' them fancy schmancy, ELITIST beers!
P.D. @ 59:
No, they think men do.
That was cring-worthy.
Apparently McCain has to be caught sodomising a Bible whle burning an American flag for some of the 48% of voters to dislike him...
Somewhere, some place there is a body in a tube chamber that is Nancy Pfotenhauer and Tucker Bounds. They are robot/zombies. They will keep on lying and saying whatever shit is on their talking points all the while never answering a question and deflecting it all back to Obama. They are programmed amazingly well.
bobhussein @ 34:
Diebold has that answer, but they're not telling...
McSame doesn't know himself. He must not know himself because he's running against a POW that agrees with W on all matters economic. The only thing he can change are his '@ Depends'. What is it called when you can't remember your ownself? Oldtimers disease?
bobhussein @ 34:
Because they vote with the half that isn't intelligent! Easy, that one!
Situation when Republicans came into power
Unemployment in 2000 4.2% 2008 6.1%
Budget 2000 281 Billion surplus 2008 357 billion deficit
A little off topic, but:
According to a new book on Cheney called "Angler," by Washington Post reporter Barton Gellman, Armey, a Texas Republican, had spoken out against the war. Cheney was trying to change his mind. So the vice president told him the threat from Iraq was actually "more imminent than we want to portray to the public at large." In Armey's account, Cheney told him:
Iraq's "ability to miniaturize weapons of mass destruction, particularly nuclear," had been "substantially refined since the first Gulf War," and would soon result in "packages that could be moved even by ground personnel....We now know they have the ability to develop these weapons in a very portable fashion, and they have a delivery system in their relationship with organizations such as Al Qaeda."
"Did Dick Cheney ... purposely tell me things he knew to be untrue?" Armey said. "I seriously feel that may be the case...Had I known or believed then what I believe now, I would have publicly opposed [the war] resolution right to the bitter end, and I believe I might have stopped it from happening."
Pfotenhauer would make a great spokeswoman for KY Jelly.
PEACE
Jay Crew @ 60:
A distinctly American design, stamped out in loving indifference, in China.
What is it going to take, another Civil War? Are we forever going to have these Jethro types and Billy Bob types, who care nothing for our country decide that having the ten commandments in courthouses and flying the racist rebel flag and denying women equality are more important issues than the very real issue that we, as a nation, are all going down the economic crapper? That our ability to defend our country has been compromised by 2 unjust and illegal wars?
Is that the only way we can take our country back?
'Cause if it is, count me in.
liberalNmoderation @ 61:
Hell, Sapphire martinis for everyone if he gets elected. Put them all on my tab.
liberalNmoderation @ 58:
Let's keep pushing. Much being said about the progressive blogopsphere driving the line of questioning. I talked with Matthews at the Dem convention he is listening not only to the endless lies that have come out of the Bush administration (and he admits he was duped to a great degree) but to the peasants being pissed off with the lack of substantive questions being asked by the MSM
Freddy Knuckles @ 35:
He did say 'cuts in spending'....the question is will mccain really cut spending or is that what want to hear.
i beleive mccain said there will be more war(s) in addition to IRAQ which costs about 10-12 billion a month. the republicans and Darwinian Capitalist were
given their 'free markets'...deregulation..look where
were at....privatize the profits and socialize the losses.
RayC @ 8:
+100
Fanon@62, Touche! That's why all the Faux News broads have implants and capped teeth. It's like Barbie's Dream House over there!
Apropos of absolutely nothing, did you know that Pfotenhauer translates as "paw cutter"?
Meanwhile, this sounds really, really bad:
http://www.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=bc8628c780c2a319
Someone needs to start making noise about this - there is a human crisis going on here and it sounds like the city is taking advantage of the media's current obsession with Wall Street to hide something.
Kathleen @ 40:
You probably won't be seeing this Pfotenhauer person again. She and that Tucker jerk are getting the smackdown every time they appear anywhere.
What a corporatist blowhard. I really despise this woman with all my being. Also why didn't Matthews point out that the "massive tax raise" will only occur for the wealthy? Probably has something to do with all mainstream news interviews like this now being shouting matches to see who can say the most words before the next commercial break. Hardly any intelligent conversations anymore like those that happen on Bill Moyers Journal.
Ed Shultz has a great idea. Nothing is more important than this election.
Ed says to "Put in a vacation request and take the day off so that you can vote. It's going to be an all day event." The lines are going to be huge.
He's right. Plan now. VOTE!
Never mind that Matthews was singing their praises for 7 years.
i'm with you pop
i thought chris did a good job, but he seemed to let her get by on her statement that dems have caused the problem due to spending. wtf is she talking about! i didn't hear one word about regulation policy (i.e., deregulation), which is a hallmark of repub and mcpain policy. god, somebody needs to smack that smile off her face (figuratively speaking of course).
xoites defends Constitution @ 69:
My my, the slime is oozing out......Armey.....he's smarmy.....the ship must be down low in the water, the big fat rats are finally about to jump......I hope they can't swim
I just listened to McSame and then Obama on MSNBC. They gave them both 15 minutes viewing time. I can see why the (R)s like McSame. He is dull, stupid, and more of the same bs we have had in the Bush years.
Obama on the other hand nailed the problem, deregulation, tied McSame and Phil Gramm to the specific legislation and promised to attack it to solve the problem.
Nothing else to consider. Obama is the answer to the failed ownership economy of the neo-cons.
http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm
Can we outsource this person?
P.D. @ 77:
Yes, impossible body proportions, able to be manipulated, feet permanently bent to accommodate high heels and nothing between the ears. Sounds about right ;)
Mike @ 21:
Extremely well said. What Crooks and Liars seems unwilling to acknowledge is that the most progressive and the most genuine anti-war candidate is not Barack Obama but Ralph Nader.
Carol@83, Correct! Now Tweety is doing an about face. When Bush showed up on the carrier with the 'Mission Accomplished' banner, Tweety was practically drooling. He went on and on how macho Bush looked. Sigh!
Kathleen @ 74:
Indeed, let's keep pushin hard.
wow...ya actually were able to get close enough to talk to the guy?
I give him a hard time, but I give MOST pundits and commentators a hard time, especially the ones who led the cheerleading for BushCo's invasion of Iraq.
But, if he can admit to being duped to you, why not to the American public?
What kind of screwed-up world are we living in where Chris Matthews sounds (almost) like the voice of reason?
i'm afraid chris has become quite a media whore. he capitalizes on his stylistic fast talk and often says things just to cause a buzz.
Let's give Matthews credit for FINALLY being a MSM person who asked a Republican shill what all of of us are wondering ourselves. If only Chris would ask his guests follow up questions more often whan they (typically) ignore the question he's asked and instead just start making nonresponsive speeches. Cudos.
I stopped watching Matthews awhile back because he goes so heavily to the right, but, like a trainwreck, I keep surfing in now and then to see what he's saying because he seems to suffer from multiple personality disorder. I saw this bit he did with this right wing talking points hag and he fooled me again by standing up to her and trying to point out to her that why would someone vote for the people that got us into this mess. She reminded me of a death's head grimacing and spouting the neo con meme as he was chopping at her, but like the zombies's in movies, she kept coming back alive saying the same thing over and over.
fastfeat @ 10:
To hide the collar burns from the brutal S&M sessions?
Old man and his pig @ 50:
The Supreme Court are the ones that put Bush in the White House.
Funny, I never hear anyone complaining about Buchanan taking so many votes from the Republicans in '00.
As far as Nader having an ego, a smear spoken like a true Democrat.
Show me one candidate without an ego and I will show you someone who is only kidding about doing the job.
You should listen to Nader. He crucifies both parties. They deserve it.
To Mike @ 21
I have never seen C&L express an opinion about Nader, or one of his supporters.
I have had Nader in my handle for months, I have been called a 'Republican Troll' several times which is rather funny since I am a socialist.
If I were ever in a room full of Republicans they would either lynch me or I would… well I'm not saying what I would do.
American politics, as practiced by the two major parties, is about propaganda and manipulation.
They smile and talk a good talk while they stand there with a knife in your back.
Unfortunately for the American people, too many of the Democrats are simply members of the other wing of the War party.
The two wings of the Republicrats.
The sheer volume of lies is impressive, but no longer surprising. Despite Republicans being totally in control for 8 years, the collapse of the US economy is the fault of Democrats, who left America with a surplus after Clinton. Despite 8 years of Republicans totally rejecting any moves to increase automobile efficiency, Democrats are responsible for gas costing four times more than under Clinton.
Republicans simply refuse to own their utter failure to govern.
DoubleD @ 78:
Hmmm...kinda like "Toe Cutter" from Mad Max...he was an asshole too. But he had more fashion sense than the Paw Cutter...
liberalNmoderation @ 92:
DoubleD @ 78:
How appropriate. I'll bet almost every man who ever slept with her chewed his own arm off to escape.
jimbo92107 @ 99:
The repubs that are really in power have never had to face responsiblity for failure ever in their lives...GWB....perfect example
JJ Daddy-O @ 93:
Well...I say we should be glad of it. Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth...not just yet anyway.
This website sums it up. The Republicans are "crooks & liars". Why is the MSM and the Obama campaign only know figuring this out? Attack the Republicans as "crooks & liars" and I believe Obama will be our next president.
Erroll @ 90:
I for one have no problems acknowledging that. But I'm afraid that in the choice between someone who doesn't represent my views as well, and someone who doesn't have a snowball's chance of getting elected, I have to go with the former. I don't blame Nader for 'spoiling' in 2000, but it's still a fact that we may very well have dodged Bush if he hadn't ran. So, yes, I think it's important.
Give me a better electoral system though- for instance a multiple-round thing like they use in France - and I'd be happy to vote Nader in the first round.
Kathleen @ 101:
Matthews came out and mixed it up with the "peasants" a term I use to describe the masses out in front of the Live broadcast stage in Denver (I was at the convention). He mixed it up more than any of the other pundits. Although Rachel Maddow (the crowd obviously adored her) would respond with gestures and comments to us. Olberman did not once come out and mix it up with the peasants. Matthews seemed genuinely interested in what peasants have to say.
I had another conversation with him on the street when he asked me who the folks that I kept asking him to have on his program were. I was rather surprised that he did not know who Flynt Leverett was. Also asked him to have Scott Ritter and Juan Cole on.
JJ Daddy-O @ 93:
Give him another five minutes...
As Ed Morrissey indicated Bush wanted to tighten oversight with a new regulatory board for Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other government recipients for the express purpose of addressing bad loan practices — and Democrats blocked it.
Erroll @ 90:
The problems are all related. If you stop the war, you'd stop the financial bleeding too. Invest in alternative energy instead of buying oil and you'd fix the trade deficit whilst also slowing greenhouse gas emissions. Eliminate lobbying and replace it with open government and ALL the problems could be solved.
We need an honest, down-to earth, financially conservative liberal candidate. Unfortunately, this is a breed that only exists outside the power/wealth structure.
......3 Alice X says: Cindy McCain and Nancy Pfotenhauer both dress like Science Fiction villains. What is up with the strange collars they sport?.......
They are both flat-chested. That kind of a collar encourages the eye to look up and away from the breasts.
Nancy Fartin'whore is a lobbyist. she represents only Korporate Amerika!
Phil (U R Whiners) Gramm is also a lobbyist. He represents only Korporate Amerika!
McCains entire Campaign is being run by lobbyists who represent.........
Don't be sucked into believing that they have our best interests at heart.
Anything they tell you pertains only to what's good for them..... we are irrelevant!
That is why you hear Bush and McCain insisting that the economy is sound
It really is .......for them
Change will only come about when;
1. Lobbying is strictly controlled and compensation for favors is taken out of the
equation by making it strictly illegal with severe penalties (lose your job) if you
take money or comps from any lobbyist, period!
2. Term limits for all those who serve in the Congress and Senate
Term limits should be for Eight years (same as POTUS). We have entrenched
losers on both sides of the aisle that have been there for decades and are
totally corrupt! term limits would bring fresh faces and new people to serve the
people every Eight years.
Until these things happen our country will be bought and paid for by Korporate Interests that could give a sh*t less about the people that live here!
Alexdem @ 106:
The problem I have with Ralph Nader and his supporters is that I don't see a lot of activity in non-presidential election years. If you are really serious about a third party, where is your grassroots effort? Don't just appear on the scene every 4 years and throw your hat in the ring.
rick street @ 94:
All he's ever been. Enjoy your five minutes, but don't fall in love...
Since when is "government spending" bad? Depends on what that the spending is for. Spending hundreds of billions of dollars on stupid unnecessary wars yes thats bad and a big part of the blame for that wasteful spending falls on McCain. And yet he promises to spend even more on this stupid occupation in Iraq and likely more stupid wars.
BT @ 1:
It's to hold their enormous whattles up. Otherwise, they'd be tripping over them. (;>
can anybody name one product we sell or trade to china? outside of our military secretes? why does any politician believe that thiers such a thing as fair trade? havent the repigs sold our military down the river haveing given china the production of equipmen we use fot our wars of agression tweetys good at licking the repig anuses when he feels the need, does he still get a woody thinking of the chimps likeness being carved on mt rushmore! and we,ll both partys only want to tweek the fair trade sellouts so much for real change!
Centrocitta @ 111:
A bag should complete the outfit quite nicely then...
When McLame was asked how his campaign lobbyists were tied to the current financial crisis he responded...this reminds me of when I was a POW in N Vietnam, 'they couldn't beat the truth out of me then and they damn well can't beat the truth out of me now'! he he..
Pfotenhauer would tell you the holocaust never happened, and when proven wrong that the Jews deserved it, if Hilter was paying her. She's a used car salesman, telling you the lemon is good.
Yesterday Palin said that they were going to stop the huge compensation packages for these corpoations. Paul Krugman on Larry King last night asked “How?” The government does not have this power. But, but lst’s say they aquire this power, which they never will. Carley Fiorina is one of McShame’s economic advisors. What will she think of that? She received a $21 million severance package when she was forced out as CEO of Hewlett-Packard, after her not-so-successful stint there--and the value of her golden parachute eventually reached $42 million.
Kathleen @ 107:
Hmmm....interesting.
Old man and his pig @ 119:
Notice that he never uses tche word "torture", though. Even in his acceptance snooze fest he said they "worked him over". We can't use the word torture anymore because we do it to, now, thanks to McMuppet.
tyree @ 117:
Our hope?
I was watching yesterday and actually did not turn down the volume for once when one of the McSame spokespeople was on. (Usually, I can't listen to them without barfing) I was hoping this would end up on the web since Matthews was blistering in his grilling of Nancy, he wouldn't let her get away with her bullshit as so often happens when she or Carly Fiorina are on air. After Tucker Bounds unexplained "vanishing" from MSNBC yesterday after being asked a tough question by Norah O'donnell yesterday it was quite a breath of fresh air to see a McCain spokesman hem and haw and be unable to spout the usual drivel.
Also, Morning Joe this AM with John McCain was a classic, I think it will be soon that we see John's head start to spin around if he is asked any more tough questions by a reporter. I can see why the campaign has kept the media away from him lately, He is getting close to the edge.
#15- Yay! i've predicted he'd have a public meltdown. Bring it on!!
Chris siure has been smackin these Republicans down lately....can't wait to see this one!
I meant #125
Why blame it on McCain for the economic meltdown? During Clinton Administration, a lot of investors moved their billions of dollars to Singapore and foreign banking accounts and thus, leaving Bush Jr. to clean the mess.
Then, the 9/11 tragedy and the iraq war culminated in debts. Folks, the media is equally to blame for not reporting the facts. They were not working for you, but the big govt. So stop attacking Palin for not showing up for those interviews. The media does not deserve her, because they are not truthful.
That woman reeks of entitlement. Her condescending aura makes me want to kick puppies. I'm not a huge fan of Chris, but I did catch Hardball last night when this was on. While the market may be down, his stock just went up. Big time.
Typical republican BITCH. Doesn't answer ANY questions. Gives ZERO information, LIES ABOUT HER PARTY'S FAILURE.
Where do they find these bitches?
It's people like her that are the downfall of this nation.
EZ @ 129:
see, this is what scares the shit out of me.....this poster says "the media does not deserve her"......how sick is that thinking, the scary part, how pervasive is that thinking?
"Who's to blame for the biggest financial catastrophe of our time? There are plenty of culprits, but one candidate for lead perp is former Sen. Phil Gramm. Eight years ago, as part of a decades-long anti-regulatory crusade, Gramm pulled a sly legislative maneuver that greased the way to the multibillion-dollar subprime meltdown."
Phil The Turtle head) Gramm is the leading candidate for a McSame administration Treasury Secretary.
TakeOurCountryBack @ 112:
term limits allow politicians to be unaccountable to the electorate
if the people are unable or unwilling to "throw the bums out" so be it
term limits do not bring fresh faces to serve the people, all they do is shuffle the deck, and provide more power to staffers
why dont you come to cali and see how well term limits have worked here...our legislature is now made up of nutjobs on both sides of the aisle
term limits are unamerican
Notice that you don't hear the word "Republican" being used much lately, especially by the Republicans. Kudos to Chris Matthews for hammering hard on this one!
American investors have planned to bring the glory of U.S. down, because they are happy to pander to the Chinese markets, India markets, or the Asian markets.
These men have put their faith in foreign governments rather than their own. Traitors!
I hope McCain freezes their foreign accounts and pays back those who have lost their fortunes here. I think this is justifiable.
OOPS I was so incensed with that BITCH that I forgot to mention Chris. (Did you notice how she kept moving her face back and fourth and acting like a movie star? GET OFF IT BITCH.
OOOH I FORGOT Chris.
He did do one heck of a job didn't he?
I guess if he went any further and actually asked her to SHUT THE PHUCK UP so he could talk, he might find himself standing in the cold next to Keith Olbermann, huh?
P.S. How many of you out there have quit your PAY TV?
Not John A. He watches FOR us so we don't have to funnel our hard earned money to the ENEMY.
Centrocitta @ 111:
They ARE Science Fiction villains, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with their female attributes.
To assert that a persons character is related to their physical form is sexist, by definition.
EZ @ 129:
Hahahahahaha
Nooooooooo, SHE does not tell the truth!!
EZ @ 129:
ya...he sure did clean up the mess, didnt he
deregulated both the banking and housing industries....that has worked out good
and why blame mccain? maybe because his campaign is being run by the lobbyists who wrote and pushed through all those bills that deregulated those industries
but nice try....
been 8 years since clinton....but if you dont have a defense....BLAME CLINTON
so can i blame reagan for making us dependent on foreign oil?
EZ @ 129:
Because, you idiot, his advisor, Phil Gramm deregulated the mortgage industry...thus, allowing the current meltdown.
And McBain voted with him.
You're right...the media is partially to blame, but using that to justify Palins refusal to be interviewed by anyone with serious questions, is fuckin stupid.
Anyone note that her husband has moved seamlessly from chief of staff positions to lobbyist and back again? Soooooo many charades going on with this campaign....
lipstickhottie @ 132:
Becaue, you have a sick mind. They don't deserve her to answer their questions while all along they are dishonest pandering to the robber barons of the financial industry and not reporting the facts. Go take a hike.
the mismanaged war(s) has been contributing to the
economy. we put the war(s) on a credit card...paid by
debt. the war(s) have had a lot to do with price of oil.
the price of oil/commodities has had a major impact
on american families.
2000/2001 average family income 48k
2007/2008 average family income 46k actual buying power 43K
prices go up and wages go down...people can't afford their homes. there are many variables.
EZ @ 129:
Uh, So what about the investers who moved their billions of dollars to Singapore and foreign banking accounts. Investors like Dick Cheney, and Hallaburton and the whole Bush estate.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 98:
Sadly, although I am a socialist, too, Your are mistaken in that numbers do count. The Dems have not had the numbers to accomplish their goals. They have been blocked at every turn.
But, in better times, the Dems gave us the 40 hour week, safety standards on the job, Social Security and Medicare.
Most importantly, the Dem administrations have not nominated far rightwing judges to the Supreme Court.
I would love to live in a country with run-off voting, where there were many choices, many parties, but I don't. I live here and I live with the reality that in order to achieve change we must vote for the candidate who best represents our views.
I don't know how many times this has been said, but a vote at this stage in the political scene for a third party candidate does nothing but take votes away from the candidate who has a very good chance of winning if those votes were not cast against him.
I'll take my lumps and stand by my man in this fight.
It's not a fight we can afford to lose.
P.D. @ 91:
Don't be too hard on Tweety. To be fair, many Democrats at that time were no better. 9/11 scared the shit out of most of us back then. Many of us were shell shocked by the events of that day. I actually began to re-think my political leanings. Bush took advantage of the mood of the country to put into action a plan for domination that would never have been possible under normal conditions.
In 2002 and the first half of 2003, I still hadn't shaken the 9/11 fear factor. I remember viewing the Iraq War with suspicion but didn't fully realize it was a complete joke and a scam until the first few months of 2004. By that summer, I knew that BuchCo was indeed, the most corrupt administration in the nation's history.
If Matthews is beginning to see the light, great. Better late than never. If he's just acting, well, that would make him a real dick! I hope that's not true. He could be very useful to help in bringing down these GOP criminals.
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