Obama on McCain: The "Great Deregulator" wants to turn his attention to health care.
By John Amato Saturday Sep 20, 2008 6:00pm
Barack Obama responds to McCain's call for deregulation of the health care industry just as he dd for the banks. Can you imagine if that happens?
Obama: He calls himself "fundamentally a deregulator," when reckless deregulation and lack of oversight is a big part of the problem. And here's the really scary part. Now this "Great Deregulator" wants to turn his attention to health care.
He wrote in the current issue of a magazine - the current issue - that we need to open up health care to - quote - "more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking." That's right, John McCain says he wants to do for health care what Washington has done for r banking. Think about what that means.
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Obama: The news of the day isn't good. The era of greed and irresponsibility on Wall Street and in Washington has led us to a perilous moment. They said they wanted to let the market run free but instead they let it run wild. And now we are facing a financial crisis as profound as any we have faced since the Great Depression. But here's the truth:
Regardless of how we got here, we're here today. And the circumstances we face require decisive action because your jobs, your savings, and your economic security are now at risk.
Over the years, states have come up with common sense rules to make sure that insurance companies aren't just looking out for their own profits, but for your health. And we cannot toss those rules out the window.
As anyone who has health care knows, the one thing we don't need to do is give insurance companies an even freer hand over what they charge, who they cover, and what they'll cover.
The radical idea that government has no role to play in protecting ordinary Americans has wreaked havoc on our economy. And we cannot let this dangerous philosophy spread to health care.
What we've seen over the last few days is nothing less than the final verdict on this failed philosophy. And I am running for President of the United States because the dreams of the American people must not be endangered any more.
The times are too serious. The stakes are too high. At this moment, in this election, we need real change - change that's more than just a slogan, change that actually makes a difference in people's lives. And that's the kind of change I'll bring to Washington when I'm President of the United States of America.
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Yes, vote for Obama.
He is so much better than McCain.
Barf.
Deregulate health care?
When the re-PUKE-lics are done with America - there won't be anything left.
Repuglics -- the party of immature, voraciously rapacious, despotic, doughy white, cowardly, angry, bigots, racists, perverts, pedophiles, murderers, war criminals, homophobes, misogynists, stupid women and consummate chronic liars.
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Call me cynical, but I think this big bailout for Wall Street has pretty much ensured any kind of health care program is DOA.
stay on him barack.....the hurt dawg is barking
VietVet8666 @ 1:
McCain is the political equivalent of a turd sandwich - the only ideas he has are pale imitations of Obama's.
As we have said before "Why settle for a knock-off, when you can have the real thing?"
Hey guys,
Look at this way: Each week, a certain amount is subtracted from your earnings. To pay the Wall Street fucks.
Just look at your pay stub. The truth is right there.
And of course, in true Republican form, they want a plan to save the people who made the bad loans (knowing that the people they were lending to couldn't make the payments) and nothing to help the people who were suckered in by the criminals making the bad loans.
But, hey! It's Reagan's wet dream!
Did you listen to what O said?
He is right we have to do it right this time and that means no quick fix.
Contact your reps and order them no quick fix!
I said order do not ask.
So Republicans are responsible for giving the American people a bill for 700 billion dollars, and in return you get...........squat.
So, I have to wonder, just how stupid would you have to be to vote Republican in November? I mean, seriously, would it even register on the stupid meter, or would it be off the scale?
Trittydi @ 2:
I agree 100%.
Trekkie @ 3:
Is this possilbe? Healthcare is run into the ground, BCBS, etc., are bankrupt, then the government steps in. Voila, nationalized health care!
NC looking BLUE
As the Democratic Party's presidential candidate, Barack Obama needs to present his alternative bail-out plan tomorrow.
He needs to tell the Democratic leadership in Congress what he, as our next president, requires on the first day in office, not what the lame-duck, criminal Republican President Bush wants.
We already know that Bush's plan will bail-out the few at the expense of the rest of us, with no guarantees put in place (regulations) that might just stop this from happening again.
So, Barack Obama, if he doesn't want to be handed a pig in the poke after being inaugurated in January, needs to make quite clear what specific "Main Street" provisions MUST be in any bail-out bill up for consideration.
Furthermore, by offering his own bail-out proposal tomorrow, Barack Obama would be showing that he isn't "just another George W. Bush." Which would make John McCain highly uncomfortable especially if McCain doesn't offer his own bail-out proposal tomorrow, showing that McCain IS "just another George W. Bush."
Barack Obama isn't just running against McCain and the corrupt Republican machine, he's running against the last eight years of the most corrupt and criminal administration in American history, the Bush/Cheney administration.
By offering his own "Main Street" bail-out proposal, Barack Obama can take the initiative away from the criminal Republicans while painting McCain and Palin into a corner, along with all the other criminal Republicans who've done so much damage to our democracy.
And the Democratic leadership will have a choice: either side with Barack Obama, backing his "Main Street" bail-out proposal, which will still help the scofflaws on Wall Street, but without giving away our nation's bank to them, and the future of our nation's children...or side with the criminal Bush proposal (which no doubt John McCain and Sarah Palin support, no question's asked).
And a suggested new campaign slogan for Democrats:
F**k the Republicans before the Republicans f**k all of us again, including our nation's children.
VietVet8666 @ 1:
there are days that i generally like what you say,
but today NO. you never have solutions just bitching.
after you take your head out of your barf lunch
please join the rest of us...because occasionally you make sense,
just not today.
Obama and McBush on 60 Minutes now.
Honest McCain Campaign Poster: Health Care Edition;
http://gopnot4me.blogspot.com/2008/09/honest-mccain-campaign-poster-32.html
(ps. have you read that proposal for Treasury Authority? Jeebus were in trouble!)
VietVet8666 @ 1:
Would you like McCain to be president?
The way I see it, you have three choices: McCain, Obama, or move to another country and give up your citizenship. Got it? The American people have let this mess happen, every bit as much as Wall St. has. No one can fix it tomorrow.
Deregulate Milk Now!!!!!! I'm sure McCain is for it.
odanny @ 9:
this we will have an answer to in nov. and if you look at all
the red states the news show display in a pundit attempt
to convince the public that repigs only do the right thing,
then you will be shocked at the voter turnout of absolutely
dumbass reichwingneocon voters. they will ask you to
hand them the axe to cutoff their own head and legs.......
Blinky McBush is stumbling out of the gate on 60 Minutes.
Looking at McLiar on 60 Minutes right now. Whats with his constant blinking eyes?
Because hes LYING!!
VietVet8666 @ 1:
You are entitled to your opinion, but on every thread you post the same message. We have heard it. You're starting to sound like one of those Phil Gramm "whiners."
dadams at 14
Looks like a slow night at C&L.
Criticise me if you want. That's part of why I post here.
Good luck to you and yours.
My take: the whole system is fucked.
Both parties suck.
Americans need to seize control or give up control.
Listen to this fascinating BBC Channel 4 radio programme from summer of 2007. It discusses the evidence in the US National Archives of a planned Right-Wing coup in the US in 1933-34 by American Businessmen and Wall Street Brokers.
A little over 28 minutes; requires RealPlayer.
This story begs to be further investigated. Not prone to be a conspiracy person, it does seem to appear that Rep. McCormick and Dickstine's congressional hearings and testimony of Gen. Smedley Butler blew the cover and we got the New Deal as the price for DuPont, Heinz, Morgan, etc., to go on with the business of making money, and not be executed for treason...
Highly recommended listening.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml
also thrown up a blog entry on our new Socialist Govenment:
http://aseriesofsmallacts.blogspot.com/
Bush and his right wing Republicans are directly and personally responsible for the deliberate removal of stock market and financial institution safeguards, put in place decades ago by Congress specifically to prevent what is now happening.
None of this activity was by accident but it was, has been and is now in progress because it is the stated Republican policy to stop any government control over American capitalism.
Blinky McBush just blamed the guy he votes with 90% of the time (true) and the Democratic congress who has been in power all of 2 years for the economic meltdown.
VietVet8666 @ 23:
i don't completely disagree with you, just please
offer more insightful help. you may have the
absolute right answer to get us back on the high road.
Sorry, perhaps there should have been a 60 Minutes open thread. McBush has taken off his Republican suit for this interview.
Edwin Hussein @ 17:
Exactly. Unless you plan on organizing a revolution, pick a candidate.
I'd certainly rather choose the guy who is publicly stating he wants to make the tax system fairer to average American and to bring back sensible regulation and government oversight, over the guy who's been heading the charge for deregulation and tax cuts for the mega-wealthy over the past 20 years.
I think this 700 Billion bail-out could be the shock that puts Obama over the top. The Bush Asmin. arrogance in insisting that we give them a blank check is staggering. And guess what? There is nothing for the Average Joe. Meanwhile we save the Far Cats that created this whole mess. Of course the Repugs blame the little guy who got thr loan, but never seem to blame the Banks underhanded tactics. Criminals, all of them.
Maf54 @ 12:
Are you there in NC? I was wondering if it was a huge crowd. It sounded like a lot of young people in the audience by the applause for accessible education which is good. NC has a 40% black population which put together with the young, educated and progressives just might do it.
Ruthless People @ 26:
I just heard him say that too.
That man is soooo desparate to be President, its PATHETIC!
Ruthless People @ 28:
Hes running away from Bush and the republican crime syndicate like a bat out of hell! LOL
dadams @ 27:
Here's what I'd do.
Let the risk takers sink.
Yeah, the world financial market sinks.
Go into a depression.
Create a clean slate.
The alternative is to let the evil fucks rob the bank and get away with it.
OMG McCain is just as much a liar as Bush!!
His nervous blinking and looking up and around proves it.
O/B*08
McCain and Obama are on 60 minutes. Playing now in the Eastern and Central time zones.
motorfingaz @ 32:
Wil you guys stop it. I'm on the westcoast and it hasn't aired yet. You're gonna ruin the suspense :(
John McCain wants us all to be prisoners of war. I can't explain it any other way the way he talks about war with Iran, war with Russia, a hundred years in Iraq. He doesn't get it. He is so flippant about going to war. It's scary. I don't want to be a prisoner of McCain's war anymore than I do Bush's wars. Damn it.
my take is, that whatever they do is about as effective as putting a band-aid on a cancer. having said that -- i would hate to be that woman holding the North Carolina sign when she watches herself on the news tonight.
Whitey @ 37:
Ooops, sorry.
Get ready to be pissed off.
Which McCain is on TV tonight?
It's the "throw all the Republicans under the bus... REGULATE HERE - REGULATE NOW!" McCain who has risen the practice of POLITICAL FLIP-FLOP to a fine art.
Which McCain would actually be president?
I don't think anybody knows.
Obama should get together a gathering of McShame supporters. And then explain to them why he has to raise taxes on people making over $250,000.
“Hey, I don’t want to raise taxes. The Republicans have forced the issue. The Republicans over the past 8 years have borrowed too much money. Now we have to start to pay for it. The Republicans lowered taxes on people making over $1,000,000 a year. All that did was make it so they had to borrow money to pay for what they have done. That is all well and good but we have to start paying for it. The First President Bush wanted to lower taxes too. He also didn’t want to raise taxes. Remember “No new taxes?” It turned out that the borrowing by President Reagan caught up to him and he was forced to raise taxes. He didn’t want to, just like I don’t want to. The second President Bush should have taken away the tax cuts for people making over $1,000,000 a year a long time ago. He should never have given tax cuts to these people. Now it has to be made right because we simply cannot afford it. I don’t want to raise taxes but it would be foolish not to. Look what has happened to the financial institutions in the past week or two. This is because President Bush and John McBush have not done what needed to be done. If things don’t get done now there will be no way to fix anything. I don’t want to raise taxes but there is no choice. You are not being told the truth by John McBush. You are being told what he thinks you want to hear. It is not the right thing to do. Just like the first President Bush I would be forced to raise taxes and it is because of the way this past administration has spent and spent and spent. And borrowed and borrowed and borrowed. Just like when you borrow money on your credit card or for a car or whatever you have to pay it back. To be told you can spend and borrow and not raise money to pay for it is not being honest with you.”
Obama should go on like that for about 20 minutes. Just a little talk to McCain supporters. No cameras. No big deal. He should do it about three times. In Ohio or another state where it is close. Florida. Three different locations in the same state. After it is done then see if it worked. Get the reactions from the people there. See how they like being talked as if they were real human beings. It has not been done like this and Obama has nothing to lose if he does it in a state he may not win but would be a huge thing if he does win.
This is only an idea I thought about when I was driving with no radio on and just thinking. Get a group of a hundred or two hundred of these McBush supporters or plain old Republicans and just talk to them. The Obama campaign can round them up.
CowBoy Bob in Austin @ 41:
Dick Cheney
Ruthless People @ 40:
I really think there is something seriously wrong with the old man. I don't think he understands what he is talking about. He has been a deregulator with Phil Gramm, Fred Thompson, and the whole gang for twenty six years but he is trying to blame the same folks he blamed for regulating for the past twenty six yeas for his deregulation.
McSame is worse than Bush and Bush is the worst thing to ever happen to this nation.
McCain Reverses Position on Regulation of Bowels
Obama sez: "...don't bail out shareholders... and don't bail out CEOs with million dollar golden parachutes."
Now that's common sense, and I agree completely.
VietVet8666 @ 34:
The alternative proposed is more like this:
let the evil fucks rob the bank and get away with it.
the world financial market sinks.
Go into a depression.
Maf54 @ 43:
He's ALREADY on the ticket... Sarah Palin= Dick Cheney in a SKIRT!
Screw McCain. He had better health care with the Viet Cong, than most Americans do now.
Thanks for that!!
dadams @ 24:
This story begs to be further investigated. Not prone to be a conspiracy person, it does seem to appear that Rep. McCormick and Dickstine's congressional hearings and testimony of Gen. Smedley Butler blew the cover and we got the New Deal as the price for DuPont, Heinz, Morgan, etc., to go on with the business of making money, and not be executed for treason...
Highly recommended listening.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/document/document_20070723.shtml
also thrown up a blog entry on our new Socialist Govenment:
http://aseriesofsmallacts.blogspot.com/
I'm so glad we're not talking about the tabloid VP situation...
Wesley E. Ledgennes @ 46:
Wonder how he'll vote. Betcha he votes WITH Bush. Any takers?
On 60 minutes McBush and Obama are going to share defining moments that made when what they are today. Di you think McShame will bring up being a POW?
Maf54 @ 49:
He couldn't sue them either when they f*cked him up. He wants to bring that aspect of his Viet Cong health care to Americans as well.
McBush is pimping his religion for the masses now.
Anything. To. Win.
....he just told another big lie. "This nation was founded on Judeo Christian values". Damn shamless liar.
He just said Hanoi was the longest he lived any place!
That POW well is now officially dry.
motorfingaz @ 35:
Ruthless People @ 54:
Count the lies so I don't have to. It's not on here yet.
OMG, McCain pointed to a canyon and said he did his "clearest thinking" at the top of a canyon in his backyard. He said"It's kind of a hard hike, there is no trail there" and pointed to a sheer cliff.
Man, this guy just spews out one whopper after another, he's a pretty shameless storyteller, and not at all believable
The insurance companies are already out of control, Mr. Obama, stop pimping for them. They deserve no place at the healthcare delivery table. They don't even deserve scraps from the table. Put them outside in the doghouse where they belong. The only people in this country who favor universal health insurance instead of universal health care are insurance company executives and the poeple who are profiting from the insurance companies' profiteering. As long as the insurance companies are motivated by profit, they are going to be screwing their ustomers and killing people in order to fatten their bottom line. Enough is more than enough, dude.
Sign on to HR-676, Mr. Obama.
Maf54 @ 49:
I just rip up my medical bills and throw them in the trash.
ConcernedCanuck @ 51:
Yea... good question. I don't think I'd put up a NICKEL to bet on this one.
odanny @ 58:
He reminds me of Tommy Flanagan, the pathological liar Jon Lovitz played on SNL.
Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo @ 52:
Either that or the moment when he saw his first wife after he returned from Vietnam.
"OMG - I'd better do something about that in a hurry!!!"
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So to fix this, Bushie wants to GIVE 700 BILLION and the Dems will sign on, but want to add even more debt to the final bill? Am I getting this one right? Soooooooo.......wasting money rewarding greedy bastards good if there is extra cash in the bill for a bridge in rural DemAmerica? Good Lord, neither party has a clue about economics.
I had the opportunity to see Obama on one of his visits to Indiana. This totally convinced me to vote for McCain! In talking about spending money, he had no plans or desire to have the US government work on a budget...his philosophy was just to spend money--lots of it!--on his ideas. The American economy needs leadership that can move toward a balanced budget...McCain and Palin are those leaders!
tmatwell @ 65:
Hahahahaahahahahaha.......stop it, yer killin' us!!
VietVet8666 @ 1:
What a wonderfully elegant, thoughtful comment. Your Faux News pundit's contract will be in the mail tomorrow. Please sign both copies and return.
tmatwell @ 65:
i'll say it for most everyone else on this list.........
you are totally f#ucked up.........and btw STFU
tmatwell @ 65:
vampires and wherewolves cant balance budgets or repig leaches either!
I've lived in NC all my life, I am blown away by the recent poll: Dead heat-Obama/McCain and Kay Hagen is beating Liddy(done for NC) Dole by 6 points!!! the downtickets in this election will destroy McSame.
odanny @ 9:
Apparently there is a whole bunch of "off the stupid meter" goin' on in this country. The entire South, Midwest, and Rocky Mountain region is still buying their GOP bullshit.
I am just as astonished as you are at how gullible and fucking stupid those people are. After eight years of abuse and financial rape, you would think they would have figured it out by now. Yet here we are, six weeks before the election, and half the people (morons) in this country, are ready to vote for McSame.
It may be sickening, but it is the reality of the situation.
AT LAST! With 44 days left to the election here's something about OBAMA.
How about word about what BIDEN is doing (44 days left to the election)
Instead of 6 to 1 articles about MCCAIN. What is WRONG with you guys at C&L.
We all are well aware who you're against. So are we! But why are you dwelling
AGAINST instead of piss about the strength and activities of who we're FOR.
We need you to cut this out!
Goddamit.
tmatwell @ 65:
You obviously suffer from a low I.Q., are easily distracted by shinny objects, and would buy a drink for someone who just screwed your woman in your own bed because he told you he was teaching her how to do push-ups.
Have you been in a coma for the last eight years, or are you just a completely oblivious dumb-fuck? Honestly, where do people as fucking stupid as you are come from?
Trittydi @ 2:
you left out the log cabin repugs.
Here's an editorial comparing McCain's health care solution to credit card deregulation.
http://www.slate.com/id/2191699/
McCain wants to move people from employer paid plans. "According to McCain, when people simply get health insurance from their employers for free, their sense of responsibility is low. With the tax credit system, McCain said people would view the credit as their own money and make more responsible choices in picking their own plans. " So, let's end group plans, and cause health care to be sold from the least restrictive states like what happened in the credit card industry.
L.A. Confidential @ 25:
clinton signed the following:
GATT
NAFTA
end Fairness Doctrine
end Regulation
for all his wonderfulness, he did these things.
he never listened to progressives.
congress could repeal the 2000 ACT first, then deal with the 'crisis'.
crazytown @ 72:
The same reason why 6 to 1, a McCain television ad is negative about Obama, and why an Obama ad is negative about McCain. Negative advertising works. And when you think about it, what's this article about? Obama pointing out the faults of McCain's health proposals.
tmatwell @ 65:
Have a good time, numb nuts. There's nothing more pathetic than an adult who can't recognize that someone is screwing them beyond the pale and, yet, continues to support them. It's a form of secularized religion. Someone else tells you that you are a loser/sinner/miscreant and you genuflect before their wisdom and godliness. Give us a call when you've had enough.
NoBuddy@77, which dumper are you eating out of? Oh, that's right, the McCain shithole.
My complaint here is one goddam article about Obama nothing about Biden. We have 44 days.
We know everything there is to know about MCCAIN. Dull boring, unbelievably common.
Over and over and over and over. Why is that?
ONE article as well about the biggest rethug HIEST in the history of this country happens next week!
Grow the hell up.
"The refusal of king George III to allow the colonies to operate an honest money system, which freed the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators was probably the prime cause of the revolution." Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father.
"The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson." Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1933
That's right, Andrew Jackson killed the Central BANK currently known as The Federal Reserve, but banking cartel came back when Woodrow Wilson took office. Look it up, maybe we can figure a way out of this freaking mess!
The central bank, or Federal Reserve, does not simply supply the governments money, it loans it at interest.
The central bank, or Federal Reserve, regulates the value of the currency being issued.
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies ... if the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of currency ... the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." -- Thomas Jefferson
"If you want to remain slaves of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control the nations credit." -- Sir Josiah Stamp, 1880-1941
Dominate Banking Families:
J.D. Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Paul Warburg, Baron Rothschild.
"The Morgan interests took advantage ... to precipitate the panic [of 1907] guiding it shrewdly as it progressed." -- Fredrik Allen, Life Magazine.
Congressional investigation, lead by Nelson Aldrich, who had intimate ties to the banking cartels and later became part of the Rockefeller family through marriage. The Commission, lead by Aldrich, recommended a central bank be implemented, so a panic like 1907 could never happen again.
The Federal Reserve ACT was written by bankers. Woodrow Wilson promised to sign it into law in return for campaign support. Later Woodrow Wilson wrote in regret, "[Our] Great Industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men ... who necessarily, by very reason of their own limitations, chill and check and destroy genuine economic freedom. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No government by free opinion. No longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominate men."
Congress Louis McFadden expressed the truth after the passage of the bill, "A world banking system was being set up here ... a superstate controlled by international bankers ... acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. The Fed has usurped the government."
From 1914-1919, The Federal Reserve increased the money supply by nearly 100%, resulting in extensive loans to small banks and the public. Then, in 1920, the FED called in mass percentages of the outstanding money supply, thus requiring the supporting banks to call in huge numbers of loans and just like 1907, bank runs, bankruptcy and collapse occurred. 5400 Banks went down.
Congressman Charles Lindbergh stepped up in 1921 and said, "Under the Federal Reserve Act, panics are scientifically created. The present of panic is the first scientifically created one, worked out as we figure a mathematical equation."
That was just a warm-up.
From 1921-1929, the FED increased the money supply by 62%, resulting once again in extensive loans to the public and banks. The new type of loan was called a "margin loan" in the stock market. 10% down gets 100% control of the stock. The catch was at any time the loan could be called in. A 24 hour margin call could occur at any time.
A few months before October 1929, J.D. Rockefeller and other insiders quietly exited the market. Then on October 24th 1929, the New York financiers who furnished the margin loans started calling them in, in mass. Instantaneous massive sell off in market, everyone had to cover the margin loans. It then triggered mass bank runs for the same reason, callapsing 16 thousand banks, enabling conspiring international bankers to not only buy up rival banks at a discount, but to also buy up whole corporations at pennies on the dollar. It was the greatest robbery in American history!! Rather than expanding the money supply to recover from this economic collapse, the FED actually contracted it, fueling one of the largest depressions in history.
Once again outraged, Congressman Louis McFadden, a long time opponent of banking cartels, began bringing impeachment proceedings against the Federal Reserve Board. Saying of the crash and depression, "It was a carefully contrived occurrance. International bankers sought to bring about a condition of despair, so that they might emerge the rulers of us all." Not surprisingly, after two assassination attempts, McFadden was poisoned at a banquet before he could push for impeachment.
The Federal Reserve has the power to regulate the money supply and it's value, which gives it the power to bring entire economies to it's knees.
"Give me control of a nation's money supply and I care not who makes it's laws." -- Mayer Amschel Rothschild, Founder of Rothschild Banking Dynasty.
The Federal Reserve is a private corporation. It makes it's own policies and is under no regulation by the government. The Federal Reserve is a private bank that loans all the currency, at interest, to the government.
Our country sought escape from this during the American Revolutionary war!
Nearly all the illegal income tax goes to the FED to pay interest on the fraudulently produced currency! "If you ... examined [the 16th Amendment] carefully, you would find that a sufficient number of states never ratified that amendment." -- U.S. District Court Judge James C. Fox 2003.
There is no law in existence that requires you to pay the federal income tax. period.
The next tool for profit and control is WAR! WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
WWI: "The large banking interests were deeply interested in the world war, because of the wide opportunities for large profits." -- William Jennings Bryan, Secretary of State.
The most lucrative opportunity of the banking cartels is WAR, for it forces the country to borrow even more money from the Federal Reserve, at interest.
Woodrow Wilson's top advisor and mentor was Colonel Edward House, a man with intimate connections with international bankers, who wanted in the war.
In a documented conversation between Colonel House and Sir Edward Grey, foreign secretary of england, regarding how to get america in the war:
Sir Edward Grey, "What will Americans do if Germans sink an ocean liner with american passengers on board?"
Colonel House, " I believe that a flame of indignation would sweep the United States and that by itself would be sufficient to carry us into war."
I bet you can connect nearly all wars to the greedy bankers on Wall Street. They make double money because they loan money to both sides!
All the Federal Reserve and the Banking Cartel on Wall Street gives us is perpetual debt and wars!!!
Tellingly, three former SEC chairmen, a Democrat, Arthur Levitt, and two Republicans, David Ruder and Bill Donaldson, have endorsed Obama. Levitt is a board member of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News. Donaldson, who was tapped by Bush to head the SEC, says Obama called him last year about the financial-regulatory problems. He has never heard from McCain.
Barack Obama Shows a Steady Hand In a Financial Crisis
Captain Bitter Angry Kangaroo @ 42:
Offer them some money and they will come! Hell, I would respond to a special call for money just for that purpose too!
chicano2nd @ 84:
That is, I would sent some to Obama to bring round up the republican pigs.
Why the hell should other nations help out with this mess? Where does he think all of this money os coming from (hint: CHINA!!)? Fix it yourselves
VietVet8666 @ 1:
Vietvet, if you think that your "war-gotten philosphy of fatalism and its application to the American Democratic experience allows you to denounce apparenty everything around you, so be it. That is O.K.
But at least have enough self-respect to realize that you haven't completed a thought yet. You haven't given me, at least but I bet countless other's, any coherent argument why I should agree with you and any of your ideas because you haven't thrown out any.
If you think that nonaction is good, I disagree. What is it that you are saying?
REPUBLICANISM is DEAD. It simply just does not f *cking work! And now REPUBLICANS are turning into SOCIALISTS. WHAT F*CK-UPS THEY ARE. EVERYTHING they touch turns to SHIT.
McCain = Bush
Do your own research... google, yahoo, whatever, search for "federal housing reform act 2005." Read for yourselves from many sources how McCain specifically and yes even the Bush administration (2 years before in 2003) TRIED to regulate the lending practices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and how the DEMOCRATS shot it down. You'll find that Obama is #2 on the list of recipients of money from the mortgage broker crooks. Two of these crooks... i.e. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac execs were even advisors to Obama! It was the democrats who sided with these lobbyists and shot down the government regulation of these companies so that Obama could have his campaign money. Now he blames Bush and McCain for the messes his peers helped make. They're all crooks, if we dig enough we'll find dirt on both candidates, but for Obama to be such a fresh face and already linked to such bad seeds, how can you possibly trust him to do anything worthwhile in the next 4 years? Research how Obama got his senate seat, where he gets his campaign money from! How can you give someone who listened to his "preacher" spew hate messages for years ultimate unchecked power over your country? Even his party doesn't trust him... search for the article entitled "The Perfect Stranger" by Charles Krauthammer. Wake up and quit following blindly. They're both politicians, but one has shown nothing but bad if not dangerous judgement in who advises him in life and politics.
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