January 07, 2012 07:00 PM
New Hampshire Debate Open Thread
Republican candidates for President of the United States (yeah) will debate on WMUR, New Hampshire:
The debate will take place at 9 p.m. on Jan. 7 on the campus of Saint Anselm College. It will be moderated by ABC's Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulos and WMUR's Josh McElveen. The debate will be broadcast on WMUR and across the nation on ABC. WMUR.com will livestream the debate and provide live updates throughout the night.
Image above from C&L commenter flag_bible_gun. Debate open thread below...
Santorum says anybody who crosses us should fear us. I wonder what
ObamaOsama bin Ladin would say.By "us" does he mean the 1%?
far left loon >.<
about five mins/one sentence before I realized I was on the wrong channel.
ABC is sound only here.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Lucky you. You dont have to look at them.
Romney congratulates Huntsman. Are the Mormons teaming up on everyone else?
??? Heh.....
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Utah. What's your point?
I don't see that it was any great feat to "govern" there.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
...the US Ambassador to the People's Republic of China, the largest nation in the world.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Utes do seem to do and say as they're told, for the most part... those that don't have either gone Jack or are "heathen."
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Somebody should ask Santorum where he made all his millions of $$$. He was a congressman and a senator and then he was worth millions.
that catered to pubescent males. It was called the "World Wrestling Federation". You know, sweaty muscle bound oiled up dudes rolling around in their underwear and grabbing each others' crotches. They were big on steroids too. When he got on the government dole he bragged about how much of a Dem lover he was.
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2012/01/06/20...
But he still couldn't get away from all those half clad sweaty guys.
Nope, HE has no "issues".
I wish they could ask him about his faux charity and faux PAC, but they can't because they made millions on the same grifter plan as the rest of the Newt recruits.
Is this streaming anywhere?
oh - here it is WMUR.com !
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
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"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Is Santoirum saying he was a lobbyist?
line item veto is unconstitutional. Santorum says he voted for it.
Whaaa? what's Herb Parry doing in the debate? Oh, i see... there to bash Obama.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
He remembered that Santorum is going gangbusters. Hey
Someone needs to remind ol' Perry that whoever gets the nom will have to go one-on-one in a debate with President Obama, and ask him if he really wants to do that? Then again, the sheer entertainment value of the constant deer-in-the-headlights look and "Oops" moments would be worth it, since he wouldn't win the General, anyway... and it'd be a nice easy evening for the President...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Surpluses. What happened to those Mr. Republican fancy pants?
Hint... Tax cuts for the filthy rich.
commander-in-chief of 20K people?? What, as the mayor of Del Rio???
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Paul takes Frothy to the woodshed on military waste and MIC spending. Frothy remains obstinant - does not respond to Paul's points, and evades and deflects instead - back to Medicare. Sick.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
military waste and MIC spending
Taboo is US politics. No one will talk about that (R) or (D).
far left loon >.<
Can't see anything, but haven't heard him yet.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Willard romnet's answer to everything - Obama - lies, and more lies. Then more lies about Iran - war monger in chief willard.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Now Herb bashes Obama, and bangs the war drum.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
More like Army bratwurst...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Zing!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HUGeA2lur4
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
Nice of Paul taking on the chicken hawks.
Newton is indignant. Paul Is indignant that newton is indignant. Paul wins BIG points.
Newton says he had kids so he was not drafted and is frankly pissed off that ron Paul would say he had a deferment. Ron Paul says that Ron paul had a wife and kids and joined the military. Everybody is looking for Newton hiding under his podium.
That's what we're talkin' about. (Those of us who feel Paul is an asset in these debates. Where's Abbyb?)
far left loon >.<
It's what I discussed last night, that a third-party candidate, especially one as seemingly sharp as Dr. Paul, will allow for issues to be brought up that between the R and D candidates would never see the light of day.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Another anal cyst?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Sure seem awfully quiet...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Gingrich plays the chicken hawk game too, but then Paul points out that he has served while gingrich didn't, and eviscerates gingrich, to a round of applause.
But then they throw Paul a hard ball - his racist rants in his 1990's magazine... he defends minorities and calls for equal justice. Hmmm... Bonus points for mentioning the failed war on drugs - a war that disproportionately harms minorities.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
in making the case about the drug war unfairly harming minorities. He was correct, but he sounded like he was overcompensating for the coming questions about his newsletters.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
and the death penalty etc.
Good for him. I love that he included the Democrats in that jab as well.
Too bad Sawyer "had" to break away so the others wouldn't have to defend their positions.
Anybody wanna bet that point will be dropped when they return from the "break"?
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
I wouldn't be surprised if they call the debate short if Paul makes too many important points. I'll be interested to see how the hosts handle the 'taboo' issues that Paul speaks about. Will they declare Paul winner of the debate, if he is the winner of the debate? He is winning so far...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
A side line poll is asking if the drug laws should be reexamined at this point 81% say yes.
Willard romney - blaa blaa blaa - i can't he - huh - "i would oppose any attempt to ban contraception" - did he just say that?
Then this "States don't want to ban contraception" and "Do i want to overturn Roe v Wade.. yes i do"
Willard you are a very bad man.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Mr 999 and Ms 666. It just ain't the same w/o the crazees...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Maybe Ms. 666 forgot there was a debate tonight. what a shame.
that a marriage is between a man and a woman. And it won't be.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Santorum - Marriage is a state issue but we need a constitutional amendment. What am I missing here?
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Yeah, like forcing abusers, rapists, pedophiles to stay with the woman and kids...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Seems like a lot of religious tests going on here.
Why not ask them if a pothole should be patched in Slippery Rock. Its not relevant.
Ya, the hosts are avoiding the elephants in the room - like the corporate takeover of government and the MIC. Paul keeps bringing it back to the issues though.
Then Herb accuses Obama of waging a war against religion. - to a smattering of applause.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Gee, kinda forgot about that one... So many other wars, so little time...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
....so riveted with what the Greedy Old Prevaricators have to say?
They're all white.
"Trust no one, Mr. Mulder." - Well-Manicured Man
Huntsman's poll numbers just went up.
No, moron. Began decaying the minute we dropped the first bomb on them under shrub.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Bla bla bla - used car salesmen
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I thought he would. Maybe must be trying to retain support, makes him more money later.
Newt's Pac has a VERY nasty nasty anti-romney documentary coming out soon.
When Mitt Romney Came To Town (and shut down the factories)
http://www.kingofbain.com/
copy of the trailer for the documentary, may be taken down from youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8HHe56rUto
Wall Street is just a parasite on the actual labor and investments of average Americans.
Banks play with futures, debt paper, complex financial instruments, and other peoples incomes.
Sell 'em short & help 'em crash - Tear 'em apart & sell the pieces
Because it's two words, moron...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
You don't see "radical republican" much either, but they are coming out of the woodwork these days.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Perry would send troops back into Iraq?????
defending the sanctity of marriage. I wonder if all 3 of his marriages got the same amount of sanctity
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"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Herb - "Iran is going to move back into Iraq" ...?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Well, that's one way to distinguish yourself, rick...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Arabia!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
(depleted uranium/white phosphorus in Falluja):
http://uruknet.com/?p=m84580&hd=&size=1&l=e
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
that none of his sons are in the military
Oh to hell with it. I can't watch anymore or I'll break the tee vee and we have another "debate' tomorrow morning.
WTF is it with everyone using this lame-ass term, anyway? It's TV, people. It is TV, it's always been TV, it always will be TV. Take this "tee vee" bullshit and bury it back in the fucking ground where it belongs.
"Whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, the Republicans are not the least bit interested in solving it. They are interested in two things, and two things only: making you afraid of it, and telling you who's to blame for it."
tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee tee vee
lol
..or just take a happy pill.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Frothy Samtorum is an angry child.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
And what, Frothy, was he supposed to do??
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Santorum would have riden a missile down into Tehran the way Slim Pickens did in "Dr. Strangelove, or How I Learned to Love the Bomb"
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Polls under livestream
best leadership
Paul 52%
won 1st round
Paul 53%
Romney 16%
Won so far
Paul 58%
Romney 18%
far left loon >.<
The hosts completely ignored ron paul and his arguments. That's media bias.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
They do seem to have slightly different ideas on how to make their vision of American feudalism come true. Newt wants more foreign wars while Paul is deeply committed to keeping the war within the US.
...have personal a rule about watching Newt on ....teevee.
"I've never pictured Hell as a place of fire, sulfur and demons with pitchforks, I've always imagined it as a place of excess and broken dreams and hopes."
Leave Afghanistan now-- 79%
far left loon >.<
Killed" in the protests after the elections there??
I believe 36 (too many) were killed. Shame on Rick "I Want Regime Change In Iran!" Santorum for purposely misleading the voters of New Hampshire.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Yup. He's a liar. As is Willard romney. As is gingrich.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Santorum’s voting record Comes Up Short on Integrity, Honesty, and Conservative Principles
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2012/01/santoru...
Mitt Romney and his offshore bank accounts
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2012/01/mitt-ro...
Romney - more lies - more Obama bashing - more slogans.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
He's a boring feck. (**good if you need a bathroom break)
far left loon >.<
Rothschilds Place Their Presidential Bet on Jon Huntsman
http://chasvoice.blogspot.com/2011/12/have-ro...
So even huntsman is a corporate elitist huh?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
to offshore as many jobs as possible."
FIFY, Shittens.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
every time Romney calls Obama a socialist.
Newt Gingrich's Skeleton Closet
http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1438/9...
We've NEVER had a free economy, moron.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
More romney lies. This time about taxes.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Now the lies come fast and furious from Herb Parry. Including that "Right to Work as a Slave" bullshit. Shheeesh!
Then romney refuses to answer the host's question - in order to bash Obama, again, and then to sling more slogans. He is a real sleezy salesman isn't he?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
He is a real sleezy salesman isn't he?
I wouldn't buy anything from him. He's an arrogant prick.
far left loon >.<
Suck it up, dumb RWers. You'll never get the '50s back, no matter how much you want 'em.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
They think the great success of America during the 50s was some sorta magic. That we were great during the 50's because our policies were awesome, we had good, Christian values, and Americans were somehow overall, generally.. "better" during this time.
In truth, the Industrialized world was destroyed from WW2. US came out of WW2 better than ever. Period.
Apparently they think the Donna Reed Show and Leave it to Beaver were documentaries, and as such were real history... dammit! Give us back our fictional past! We demand it!
Oh, hell... my outrage meter's been bouncing against the peg too damned much, and I think it's broken.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
My parents thought "Reefer Madness" was a documentary too...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I don't think my parents ever saw it... then again, my Pop was an attorney in Hollywood for 52 years... he herbed it up a few times until he quit cigarettes in '74 and was terrified of smoking ANYthing for fear it would start him back on the coffin nails... He was a cool old guy in his own way...
Myself? Got a copy of it to play in those... "special" circumstances... I love the flick!
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Just showed that flick to my two youngest (nearly 13 and 14). Being at the tail end of the DARE santorum, they truly appreciated how over the top it was. Got them both to asking questions about Anslinger, etc, so I guess the movie did serve a sort of purpose after all ;)
FB
99%
WTF? Didn't he just open a couple of lousy ones w/ South America?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Romney calls for a trade war with China - Huntsman slaps him down - willard doubles down.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Oh, zing!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
going on as well. Det 21/NO 24 in the 4th.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Turned it to another channel... my wife's from Detroit... was getting to be hell hearing her cry... LOL
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
ANYBODY. never seen so many missed/poor tackles.
Wall Street is just a parasite on the actual labor and investments of average Americans.
Banks play with futures, debt paper, complex financial instruments, and other peoples incomes.
Sell 'em short & help 'em crash - Tear 'em apart & sell the pieces
Became a helluva shootout, with Detroit topping the murder list again...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Shittens will lose. America will not elect a weird ass mormon. He's a liar, a flip flopper, and a fraud. Also he's a damn war monger, a neocon. One word, Loser.
I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around Perry's statement that he'd order troops back to Iraq....
One question popped up before I was even aware of it... WHY? And why the hell didn't anyone ask that simple question!
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
He's got nothing else; might as well try to appeal to those folks dying to go back and blow some more people up.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Well, for what it's worth, the longer he's gallivanting around the country, the longer he's out of our hair... we'll let the rest of the country in on what kind of dumbass he really is.. just sharing the wealth.
You're welcome.
lol
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
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