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Senator Mary Landrieu (DLC, LA) is under "attack" in a radio ad from MoveOn.org. I can't figure out where the "attack" is: the very short radio ad told people factual information about how much soft money the healthcare industry gave to Landrieu and also asked listeners to CALL LANDRIEU and express their opinions about healthcare.

CNN's John King was aghast! {emphasis mine}

...before there's even a bill to vote on, she's being attacked on the radio. Should the president of the United States, the leaders of the Democratic Party tell moveon.org to save its money and get off the radio?

So what exactly about that ad is 'attacking' Senator Landrieu, Mr. King? Publicizing the amount of money she's received from corporate for-profit healthcare lobbyists? Or perhaps, horror of horrors, suggesting that her actual constituents give her a...wait for it...telephone call?

At least Senator Casey from Pennsylvania points out that New York Times survey showing 72 percent of the American people favoring a public option. "I know that's not the universal opinion in Washington," he says. I happen to think the silver lining in this health care "debate" is that finally that 72% is waking up to whose interests their congress people actually serve. Follow the money.

I guess polite Washingtonians find it distasteful to mention who owns their vote, bought and paid for, and are deeply troubled when citizens without 1.6 million dollars in donations call the office expecting to be, you know, heard or something. Move On emailed me recently, asking me to contact "my" representative, John "CO2 is plant food" Shimkus, who is owned by the coal lobby. I told MoveOn I couldn't help them. since I don't have the same soft money donations as the coal industry, therefore my lawn guy (the one planting the grass that eats Shimkus's CO2) is a better representative of my interests than my congressman.

And it's just sick when television media plays along with this charade, indicating that publicizing soft money and promoting citizen involvement somehow "attacks" a United States Senator? Honestly, John King, being a media lapdog to the Georgetown Senatorial Cocktail Party Set is no way to go through life, son.

Full transcript below the fold... (h/t Heather)

KING: So, Senator Casey, come into the conversation with your views. And as you do so, Senator Feinstein, a Democrat, just raised some significant questions. She'd like to get this done but she has big questions.

Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana is another Democrat who lives in a more conservative state. She has raised some questions. The reward for her raising questions has been a liberal group, moveon.org, is now attacking her on the radio. Let's listen.

(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP)

ANNOUNCER: Why is Mary Landrieu opposing the president's plan to provide health care choices for all Americans, including the option to join a high-quality public health insurance plan? She did receive $1.6 million in campaign contributions from the health care industry, the same industry that's now spending millions to stop the president's plan. Call Mary Landrieu.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: Senator Casey, is that helpful? That's an ally of your party, moveon.org. They have helped the Democrats in elections. They helped President Obama in the election. There's not a bill to vote on yet. There are people like Senator Feinstein, like Senator Lugar, like Senator Grassley. I bet Senator Casey has some questions about this legislation.

And before there's even a bill to vote on, she's being attacked on the radio. Should the president of the United States, the leaders of the Democratic Party tell moveon.org to save its money and get off the radio?

CASEY: Well, John, I'm not sure we can be in the business of telling groups how they spend their money. But, look, this is very early. I don't think either side on this should overreact, people in the Democratic party, groups that support us, nor people in the Republican party. There's still an awful long way to go here.

But the reality, for a lot of families, in Pennsylvania and across the country -- I'll just give you one example. In Pennsylvania, if you look at 2007 and 2008, at some period of time within those two years, more than a quarter of our population had no health insurance at all.

It's a huge number, and the same is true across the country. The worst thing we could do is to sit back and continue to wait and debate for too long.

The status quo, right now, is unacceptable. I think the status quo is the enemy of reform and change. So we have to be cognizant of the difficulty of the cost issues as well as coverage issues. But I really believe we can get this right.

For example, our committee, the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, this week, began voting on amendments. So the ship is moving here; long way to go.

Senator Grassley's worked hard with Senator Baucus on the Finance Committee. There's still a lot of work to do.
But the worst thing we could do, I believe, is to lose the opportunity to get something done here. The American people expect us to be prudent. They expect us to tell how we're going to pay for this.

But the last thing they want us to do is to wait and delay for 2010 or 2011, because this is the economic threat to our country. If we don't get this right and get it done, American families are going to pay far too much. There are estimates, in the next eight years, the cost of health care for families is going to go up by 83 percent, by one estimate.

We cannot allow that crushing economic burden to be imposed upon families who are still struggling to get through this recession. So I think the president was right to focus on reducing costs, enhancing quality, and making sure that people have choices
.
And I believe one of those choices should be a public option, which, in the paper today, the New York Times survey shows 72 percent of the American people favoring it. I know that's not the universal opinion in Washington. But I believe we can get this right. It's going to be difficult, but our committee is actually moving and voting on amendments, and that's the way it should be.

KING: I will continue to cover this issue and all the other issues, as we go forward. I want to thank all of you senators for joining us for a long, extended conversation today.



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If nothing else, the statement is a tacit admission of the joined at the hip relationship between the democrat party and moveon.org. Wonder how they manage to keep their tax exempt status?

How Faux Nooz had their relationship with the Cheney Administration?
Or maybe with Coultergiest
Or maybe Malkin, Savage or the pride of the GOPers Lush Rimbaughlls?
Really. Did they kick you out of the 10th grade?

And speaking of tax exempt status, What about Falwell or Robertson?
Good ole Pat"Take him Out" Robertson.
haaaaaaaa, geeezzz. So ,they gave you a few days out for good behavior?
Me thinks they need to up yer dosage.

Troll alert. Be warned. Not a very smart one, either.

indeed, if srambled eggs were brains, that would be breakfast for an entire family.

I never really thought of brains as a breakfast food. Maybe with maple syrup...

Moveon.org keeps it's tax exempt status by maintaining a 501 (c) branch (similar to your much-beloved Swiftboaters) for education & non partisan activities.

It also maintains a PAC (political action committee) for advocacy and political activities (similar to Newt's GOPAC, except they haven't been censured & fined for fund raising abuses).

Any further questions?

from the hike. Take another hike troll.

There is no such entity as the democrat party. This is an imaginary party that exists in your mind via Limbaugh.

showing your ignorance. Not very subtle.

Stupid? Smartass? Sh**forbrains?.........Sent here to stir up stuff?

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I'm thinking more and more that john king should move on.

I wish he would stop that annoying hand waving.

One of a very few democrats who has behaved shamefully towards her own citizens in New Orleans. With friends like you,...

Shame works.

My past contribution(s), has just... been justified. √

PS. Thank you, bluegal ♥

John and his new wife are media lapdogs. In a way he reminds me a lot of David Gregory. I have no use for either one since the Bush era.
They both proved they are not journalists.
As for Mary, I think of the time she was on Anderson Cooper thanking everyone including Bush during Katrina. Cooper all but told her to stop thanking people and she kept right on thanking people while New Orleans kept drowning.

When either John King or David Gregory is on the tube, I click past them.
At least Sen. Casey has the sense to school King on where his priorities should lie: with the uninsured people not being served by our current system!
John King and David Gregory: move along.

and I think the bug originates from a microphone in Newt Gingrich's cufflinks.

One thing the Rebublicans do better... is SLEAZE TV, at all levels.

I still shake my head in disbelief when I hear the "CO2 is plant food" argument. I wonder if these people REALLY believe what they say or are just desperate for a response that sounds credible.

I watched a rerun of "House" tonight where a man tried to "plant food" himself to death by closing the garage door with the engine running.

Now let's just amplify that for a moment. Say, 6 billion people trapped in a garage the size of the entire planet with a few billion automobiles purring them to sleep.

Hey, it's just "plant food", right? You know, "water" is plant food too, but I don't want anyone shoving a firehose down my throat and turning it on full blast either.

Good one Mugsy, but I can do one better.

Remember "Apollo 13" (directed by Ron Howard)? There was a great scene where they dumped a box of duct tape, square filters, round filters & assorted "doo-dads" on the table and said "You've got to make THIS fit THAT using only what's on this table".

And what were they trying to filter? CO2 that had been building up to toxic levels. Remember that whenever Glen Beck mock people 1000X smarter than him by huffing and puffing into his microphone.

..on the team that helped the real Astronauts with that problem. He used CO2 to grow beautiful roses.

Mugsy, that's carbon monoxide, taking the place of O2 in your system, that won't let go of the hemoglobin to oxygenate your system, that's why it kills you.

must be as he is on the T.V., and at all of the important parties.

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Morse Code blinking. She has eyelid Tourette's Syndrome.

Good job, paid. A member for less than 2 hours and you get deleted! Come back in, the water's fine.

I see no attack on Mary. Just a question (why is she opposed) and a
fact (her contributions from Insurance/HMOs/Big Pharma).

John King obviously has an agenda.

"...Honestly, John King, being a media lapdog to the Georgetown Senatorial Cocktail Party Set is no way to go through life, son..."

Actually, he's probably in the top 5% in salary percentile in the US (in the world ?), and I would bet he doesn't have to sweat his healthcare insurance payments, either.

Being a whore for the Georgetown Senatorial Cocktail Party Set? ... John King would probably say it's working out really well for him, and you know his parents are just proud as punch.

Lordy, get us security! Somebody askin' questions! 'Spose to be the Big Easy, not the Hard Askyou!

Seriously, King's credibility just went bye-bye. Every single politician who receives state-sponsored healthcare needs to be reminded who it is they work for--and if it ain't the public they're working for they need to go on the record to explain just exactly who they are working for! A real press corps would make that happen, because it's, you know, news.

++++

Should the great unwashed get back to shutting up and taking it?? I say!

Move On emailed me recently, asking me to contact "my" representative, John "CO2 is plant food" Shimkus, who is owned by the coal lobby.

ha! me too... corner of I-57 and I-70...

illinois 19th... a "classic" example of gerrymander if ever there was one...

shitkus is good at giving out medals and such... not sure what else...
my area is very agriculture, again, after most all industry has left...

oh, and ignoring his own term limit promise... guy's a wackadoodle...

is on the job.....early. Waiting around for some of these so-called Democratic elected senators to make up their minds in the last minutes could be to late.

I haven't contributed to move-on in a while, I guess it's time to start up again.

why not ask move-on?? talk to one of their reps? talk to sen. landrieau?
what is this jr. high??

and btw we don't need no stinkin "journalist's" permission to phone our congress critters, mister!

Congress members don't talk to left leaning blogs or talk show hosts if they have to try to defend themselves against their statements. Republicans, never.

was more an observation of what could/should be. a real journalist would pursue, nonetheless. even with the statement, "Sen Blather's staff declined comment or declined to appear" and switch over to the oppo's stmts.

It is occasionally done, less and less it seems. Granted, mostly in a parallel universe and seldom on commercial/corporate tv/radio.

nonetheless, the 3rd person chatter/conjecture is not worthy of adult viewing. imo

I think about the election and him struggling with the CNN electoral map technology that was either full of bugs or he was incapable of mastering it (or both).

Remember this guys face when the revolution begins. A true corporate fascist whore, just like Chubby Landrieu.

The corporations have learned NOTHING from their greed and neither have the corruptocrats. As this global depression continues for the working guy - and the MSM talking heads swoon over the recovery because of the Wall Street "numbers" being reported by ther bailed out fatcats, methinks things are going to get very ugly.

You can only shove so much corporate shit down the publics throat, before they puke it back up all over the faces of these fascists.

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How republicans call facts attacks?

Here is a list of elected people taking payoffs to cheat the American people and the amounts of bribes being taken. This is just from health care and insurance.
It is mind boggling to think how much these people are taking from others!
Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $4,026,933)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $2,833,731)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $2,758,468)

And when you just go right to Big Insurance, the non-presidential candidates who got the biggest legalized bribes were the 7 senators who have been tasked with the job of killing single-payer:

Ben Nelson (DLC-NE- $1,196,799)
Max Baucus (DLC- MT- $1,184,113)
Joe Lieberman (DLC- CT- $1,036,302)
Arlen Specter (R-D- PA- $1,035,530)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY- $981,400)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY- $929,207)
Chuck Grassley (R-IA- $884,724)

We need to investigate and prosecute these criminals now. Severe jail terms are in order for these criminals!
This is only a partial list but these are the largest amounts of bribes taken by indiviuals.

a discussion of where we are going with healthcare, why not acknowledge where we are starting from? And that starting point is a steadily shrinking private piece of the pie (35-40% and trending down), with public funding the majority (Medicare, Medicaid, S-chip, etc.).

A public plan is not some new, un-American, Socialist departure for us; in fact, it would just be a continuation of current trends. What is being debated is whether the private sector is going to be subsidized to hang onto a shrinking share of the business

Americans need to get mad and place the blame for rotten health care on the insurance industry. Americans then need to find ways to punish the insurance industry where it hurts the industry the most, in their wallets. Until the insurance industry gets a boycott against it, the industry will continue to laugh in the consumer’s faces.

Should the president of the United States, the leaders of the Democratic Party tell CNN to save its money and get John King off their TVs?

this man hates our freedoms

my ass

the clarion call to arms of the Rethuglican spin machine even BEFORE Pres. Obama had chosen a replacement suggestion for Justice Souter...and haven't the sweet Rethugs been SOOOOOOO nice to Ms. Sotomayor!! King is a right-wing tool! And Bitter Bud.........what he said.

John King came out of the closet and joined FOX news already? It is clear that he is a right wing hack.

Good to see John King standing up for free speech (g)!

Yeah. That was a real harsh attack there. It makes Michelle Malkin giving peoples home address seem or BillO's calling calling Dr Tiller Tiller the Killer seem so mild.

When the truth is your enemy, FACT = ATTACK

Minimize the distortion... "Just The Facts Mam"! Thanks

that
is
the message
........ he has nice health insurance. ask him.

Boy the villagers are very worried that we just might finally win this time. Obama stepping out on the side of the people scares the hell out of these morons. It amazes me to see millionaires sit on tv defending the prostitutes in Congress, but then again they are the "Johns", right! How can these people sleep at night? They have no conscious at all. Should he tell the Republican leaders to tell CPR, led by Scott, a known fraudulent healthcare thief, should the Republicans tell them to take their ads off the air, should the Regressive party tell the AMA to knock it off. Nooooo!!!! But MoveOn, who represents the everyday Joe, well President Obama must tell them to stop. Tells you everything you need to know about the so-called "Liberal" media. I wish, more than anything else, to have the power of a genie or a warlock, and have the ability to change the world for 30 days. I would have suffocating bores like John King and everyone like him living the life of a 9 to 5iver. Let's let them live our life for 30 days and see what real life is all about. Maybe then they would actually take their jobs seriously. Maybe then they just might sympathize with the average American and join in the fight to roll back Reaganism, Free Market ideology, and conservative ideology forever.

I have been a loyal Democrat all my life, but if Diane Feinstein and Mary Landrieu or any other blue dog or conservative or just plain dumbfuck Democrat stands in the way of the health care this country needs, then push them aside or bulldoze them and get on with it.

It's pissing me off. We work to get these people elected (I'm a even a volunteer Democratic committeeman in my small town) and they've got the balls to NOT do what we elected them to do, then I may consider becoming an independent.

Right here in New York State, the fucking Senate is now deadlocked because two stupidfuck Democrats decided to caucus with the Republicans and (they even elected a Republican as a majority leader!)and now they tied 31-31 and the Senate is essentially shut down, the Governor can't get them to move and the courts refuse to rule on a lawsuit over the mess. It's enough to make you weep.

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