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Okay where's the butcher from the last two threads with his talk about Obama and Yemen.
I love having a mid day open thread but here in Florida it's a happy hour open thread.
I just heard my neighbor screaming and screaming. Her little toddler was gone. Police cars covered the neighborhood. Later they found him hiding in his own home. Thank goodness! His mother's plaintive cries ripped my heart out. I had never heard anything like that before. But to quote a famous dude, all's well that end's well.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
It's cold here tonight and it's dark already plus that neighbor lives on a busy intersection. I'm just glad the little guy is safe and sound. I will never forget the sound of that frightened mother's voice. I doubt there is any sound like that of a mother who can't find her baby.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
my 91 year old mother and I worry about her daily. She has a healthy heart but has had a mild stroke, has athritus so bad in her legs she can barely get around even with her walker and fell last winter and fractured her pelvis, then fell again Christmas day. Curtiingus, stay as close as you can to her while you can.
I am ron. I helped my grandmother and kept her company up until her death at 93. Now its my mom and she's 76 but I just don't have that much left in me. And to be honest, after spending a lot of time trying to help a really difficult person, I spend a lot of time just avoiding her.
My Mom left at 63. We got everything covered for her but I had to file for bankruptcy after handling everything from 4 states away. Back and forth . . etc, 3 major brain operations. Our wonderful Medical System.
The bureaucracy, inefficiency, and dysfunction of the system was unbelievable. Unfortunately her stroke was such that moving her down with us was impossible. Even after all the effort, it came down to I had to give the order to take her off life support. Which was her wishes if this kind of scenario ever happened.
It's the COSTS stupid. The costs of medical treatment are freaking outrageous. And there is literally no guarantee of a successful outcome. Not a good deal.
When my mother really began to feel her age (this is after my father/her husband died), my two brothers and I would take turns to visit her, to see how she was doing.
In WWII she installed all the electrics in B-29's. She learned to fly. She became a stewardess for United after the war, met my Dad (who worked for BOAC) on a layover, they got married 6 weeks later in New York. She became a mum, and they were posted to Bahrain and then India. Finally mum got tired of foreign lands and insisted the family settle down and stay put.
She started working again at 48 (I was 8). She designed the addition to our house. She learned to drive at 56. She learned to ski at 64. After my Dad died she mucked-out and groomed his horse every other day (that's hard work!). She made costumes for the local theater group and rented them out for fancy dress parties.
Arthritis hit her hard.The she just weakened over about 2 years--she could feel the change all too well, and we could see it. She was surely dying, and she hated her increasing decrepitude, which made her difficult to deal with at times.
One day friends found her incapacitated at home. She was rushed to an ICU and spent a week in that. We (her sons) rushed to her hospital bed. She died about 6 weeks later,in hospital, in 2004, age 83.
She had her own room at the hospital because she was prone to infection in her condition. However she could hear the birds outside in one of the garden courtyards that the wards were all built-around, and she was visited regularly by friends. Visiting hours were 7am to 10 pm.
Mum was bed ridden, could hardly move, but her mind was still tack-sharp. A priest was ushered in one day as part of the 'general service' to provide 'comfort'. He was about 40 years old. My mother was not comforted by his words, but amused:
"You're half my age, and a Catholic priest" she said. "What the hell you can tell me about life and death that I don't already know?".
We joked about times past but also dealt with the necessary legal and financial details of her impending demise. And facing mortality she said "the one last thing I really want before I go, is a gin-and-tonic, and I'll be satisfied".
I privately asked one of the nurses about that, not knowing what the medical (and legal) consequences might be if I respected my mother's wish. "Just don't leave me with the empties" said the nurse.
So mum got several gin and tonics over the next couple of days, and then told us she was satisfied. "I'll tell the doctor to pull the plug tonight" she said (she was on a couple of tubes, nothing dramatic, but still essential for life).
We had another private word with her nurse as we left, again not sure of things. The nurse just said "If you are all okay with it and the doctor is okay with it and she's okay with it, I'll give her a nice 'cocktail' to see her off with. It will be a shame because she's so much fun, but like she said herself, she's had enough."
About 9 am the next day we got 'the call'. We went to the hospital. She was always a slight woman but she looked so tiny. Her hands were across her chest, holding a rose from the hospital garden.
All this took place over a month. My brothers and I hadn't worked for a month. One was 'hurting' and two of us were actually broke (I was now in debt on my rent).
Cost of the ICU? Zero
Cost of five weeks in a private hospital room? Zero
Cost of all the drugs for my mother? Zero
Cost of the funeral/cremation/limo? About $900, already paid-for.
Paperwork? One death certificate, one letter to lawyer.
Legal challenges over my mother's "suicide" or the hospitals 'cocktail? Zero.
In case you didn't guess already, none of this happened in the US. My mother died in England, where the family had finally settled and where I was born, at home, under the care of a midwife and doctor who also cost NOTHING--beyond the regular automatic pittance paid into the National Health Service.
I'm sorry. I mis-read your comment. Forgive me. I'm still a little shook up over this whole thing. I would freak out if my dog was missing so I can't imagine how a mom feels when her baby is gone.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I was happily impressed how many cop cars were here and how fast they got here. There were three parked here at one time and I don't know how many driving up and down the streets with their search lights on. Makes you feel good when the local cops are that responsive.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Still don't understand how a guy with a pass port gets on a plane. the one guy they let on that doesn't have a passport just happens to be carrying a bomb.
We read the blurb about the married lawyers returning from an African safari, saying they observed the guy boarding without a passport. And about the "well-dressed" one accompanying him, who smoothed over the no-passport situation.
But I also read about the officials who said he had a valid visa stamp (which would be IN his passport.)
So, who's telling the real story? Or perhaps we haven't heard it yet?
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
The story was also that his father called authorities to warn them his son was unstable and could blow something up. Either this or previous activity landed him on the no-fly list. So he got a valid visa stamp on his nonexistent passport even though he was on a list of people who are not supposed to board planes.
What I don't understand is the guy goes through the trouble of filming the thing, and just disappears without contacting the feebs? Seems peculiar to me.
This smacks of a contrived incident, as do so many so-called foiled attacks here in the US. Why create such an incident and keep the pundits flapping? Ma-a-aybe to keep the populace from examining the FUBAR that is our war in Southwest Asia:
"What I don't understand is the guy goes through the trouble of filming the thing, and just disappears without contacting the feebs? Seems peculiar to me."
It was his Al Qaeda handler doing the before and after vids.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
So, I was watching Larry King last night to get the underwear bomber update, as I haven't followed it. It does smell bad; doesn't add up. Ron Paul said we should consider why they are attacking us. Ben Stein (noted consevative) went ballistic and said they are attacking us "because they are psycho". That was the totality of his reasoning. Then a big fight ensued and you couldn't hear what they were saying.
Because they are psycho. That's a conservative for ya. That's all they need. Spread unreasoned fear. Repeat often.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
I couldn't hear all that. Typical. Ron Paul was right, imo. They're back on tonight, so I'll watch round 2.
At least they seemed reasonable about this "war on terror" not being a war, and the failure seems to be 16 intelligence agencies not sharing information. Until they share info, it's useless.
PS The USA has, apparently, recently done some bombing in Yemen. The underwear bomber claimed that's why he "attacked". Blowback.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
about the republican with an IQ over 120?
me nether!
...was over 20 though.
Ha!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Okay where's the butcher from the last two threads with his talk about Obama and Yemen.
I love having a mid day open thread but here in Florida it's a happy hour open thread.
I just heard my neighbor screaming and screaming. Her little toddler was gone. Police cars covered the neighborhood. Later they found him hiding in his own home. Thank goodness! His mother's plaintive cries ripped my heart out. I had never heard anything like that before. But to quote a famous dude, all's well that end's well.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Some days I feel like climbing into a balloon and floating away from my mother. maybe the child was having one of those days.
thought it was hilarious seeing my Mom racing around in a panic.
It's cold here tonight and it's dark already plus that neighbor lives on a busy intersection. I'm just glad the little guy is safe and sound. I will never forget the sound of that frightened mother's voice. I doubt there is any sound like that of a mother who can't find her baby.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
my 91 year old mother and I worry about her daily. She has a healthy heart but has had a mild stroke, has athritus so bad in her legs she can barely get around even with her walker and fell last winter and fractured her pelvis, then fell again Christmas day. Curtiingus, stay as close as you can to her while you can.
I am ron. I helped my grandmother and kept her company up until her death at 93. Now its my mom and she's 76 but I just don't have that much left in me. And to be honest, after spending a lot of time trying to help a really difficult person, I spend a lot of time just avoiding her.
My Mom left at 63. We got everything covered for her but I had to file for bankruptcy after handling everything from 4 states away. Back and forth . . etc, 3 major brain operations. Our wonderful Medical System.
The bureaucracy, inefficiency, and dysfunction of the system was unbelievable. Unfortunately her stroke was such that moving her down with us was impossible. Even after all the effort, it came down to I had to give the order to take her off life support. Which was her wishes if this kind of scenario ever happened.
Toughest year of my life.
It's the COSTS stupid. The costs of medical treatment are freaking outrageous. And there is literally no guarantee of a successful outcome. Not a good deal.
When my mother really began to feel her age (this is after my father/her husband died), my two brothers and I would take turns to visit her, to see how she was doing.
In WWII she installed all the electrics in B-29's. She learned to fly. She became a stewardess for United after the war, met my Dad (who worked for BOAC) on a layover, they got married 6 weeks later in New York. She became a mum, and they were posted to Bahrain and then India. Finally mum got tired of foreign lands and insisted the family settle down and stay put.
She started working again at 48 (I was 8). She designed the addition to our house. She learned to drive at 56. She learned to ski at 64. After my Dad died she mucked-out and groomed his horse every other day (that's hard work!). She made costumes for the local theater group and rented them out for fancy dress parties.
Arthritis hit her hard.The she just weakened over about 2 years--she could feel the change all too well, and we could see it. She was surely dying, and she hated her increasing decrepitude, which made her difficult to deal with at times.
One day friends found her incapacitated at home. She was rushed to an ICU and spent a week in that. We (her sons) rushed to her hospital bed. She died about 6 weeks later,in hospital, in 2004, age 83.
She had her own room at the hospital because she was prone to infection in her condition. However she could hear the birds outside in one of the garden courtyards that the wards were all built-around, and she was visited regularly by friends. Visiting hours were 7am to 10 pm.
Mum was bed ridden, could hardly move, but her mind was still tack-sharp. A priest was ushered in one day as part of the 'general service' to provide 'comfort'. He was about 40 years old. My mother was not comforted by his words, but amused:
"You're half my age, and a Catholic priest" she said. "What the hell you can tell me about life and death that I don't already know?".
We joked about times past but also dealt with the necessary legal and financial details of her impending demise. And facing mortality she said "the one last thing I really want before I go, is a gin-and-tonic, and I'll be satisfied".
I privately asked one of the nurses about that, not knowing what the medical (and legal) consequences might be if I respected my mother's wish. "Just don't leave me with the empties" said the nurse.
So mum got several gin and tonics over the next couple of days, and then told us she was satisfied. "I'll tell the doctor to pull the plug tonight" she said (she was on a couple of tubes, nothing dramatic, but still essential for life).
We had another private word with her nurse as we left, again not sure of things. The nurse just said "If you are all okay with it and the doctor is okay with it and she's okay with it, I'll give her a nice 'cocktail' to see her off with. It will be a shame because she's so much fun, but like she said herself, she's had enough."
About 9 am the next day we got 'the call'. We went to the hospital. She was always a slight woman but she looked so tiny. Her hands were across her chest, holding a rose from the hospital garden.
All this took place over a month. My brothers and I hadn't worked for a month. One was 'hurting' and two of us were actually broke (I was now in debt on my rent).
Cost of the ICU? Zero
Cost of five weeks in a private hospital room? Zero
Cost of all the drugs for my mother? Zero
Cost of the funeral/cremation/limo? About $900, already paid-for.
Paperwork? One death certificate, one letter to lawyer.
Legal challenges over my mother's "suicide" or the hospitals 'cocktail? Zero.
In case you didn't guess already, none of this happened in the US. My mother died in England, where the family had finally settled and where I was born, at home, under the care of a midwife and doctor who also cost NOTHING--beyond the regular automatic pittance paid into the National Health Service.
just like Balloon Boy, only real, and w/o the balloon. Or fakey-arsed sick mofo parents.
me-oww!
If you had heard that mom you would know that she truly thought her baby was missing. It can happen and everyone is human. She is not a bad parent.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
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me-oww!
I'm sorry. I mis-read your comment. Forgive me. I'm still a little shook up over this whole thing. I would freak out if my dog was missing so I can't imagine how a mom feels when her baby is gone.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
"I would freak out if my dog was missing"
Same here with our animals.
Heck, I'm wrecked if one just gets sick.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
is going to be confused for a while....getting massively hugged and then smacked, then hugged.
Glad it all turned out well, far too often it doesn't.
in your hood. Or neck of the woods which ever you prefer.
Actually most of the time this neighborhood is pretty dull and we like it that way.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
quiet and calm is fine with me.
I like dull. Uneventful is how we liketo roll.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I was happily impressed how many cop cars were here and how fast they got here. There were three parked here at one time and I don't know how many driving up and down the streets with their search lights on. Makes you feel good when the local cops are that responsive.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
We've had a few "Amber alerts" here locally - so far all have been returned home safe and sound. A few were parental issues and whatnot but . . .
So good to hear when one is found. No matter what.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Must be recess time.
Still don't understand how a guy with a pass port gets on a plane. the one guy they let on that doesn't have a passport just happens to be carrying a bomb.
What a coinkidink.
We read the blurb about the married lawyers returning from an African safari, saying they observed the guy boarding without a passport. And about the "well-dressed" one accompanying him, who smoothed over the no-passport situation.
But I also read about the officials who said he had a valid visa stamp (which would be IN his passport.)
So, who's telling the real story? Or perhaps we haven't heard it yet?
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
The story was also that his father called authorities to warn them his son was unstable and could blow something up. Either this or previous activity landed him on the no-fly list. So he got a valid visa stamp on his nonexistent passport even though he was on a list of people who are not supposed to board planes.
I thought he was not on the no-fly list in spite of his fathers warnings?
Not that is matters much.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
the incident also, witnessed by two different families
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2...
What I don't understand is the guy goes through the trouble of filming the thing, and just disappears without contacting the feebs? Seems peculiar to me.
This smacks of a contrived incident, as do so many so-called foiled attacks here in the US. Why create such an incident and keep the pundits flapping? Ma-a-aybe to keep the populace from examining the FUBAR that is our war in Southwest Asia:
http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/...
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
doesn't pass the smell test but I'm sure the Feebles will come up with a perfectly good explanation /s
"What I don't understand is the guy goes through the trouble of filming the thing, and just disappears without contacting the feebs? Seems peculiar to me."
It was his Al Qaeda handler doing the before and after vids.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
something along those lines I spose, it was the first thing that came to my aluminum foil covered noggin
Visions of yellowcake forgeries dance in my head:
Iran Seeking To Smuggle Raw Uranium From Kazakhstan: Report..
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Now they're just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks
let me guess now Yemen is next.
Majority Of Tea Party Group's Spending Went To GOP Firm That Created It
The old saying goes - "A fool and his money are soon parted"
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
It's a great summation of the events of 2009 and Keyboard Cat has a starring role!
is going to suck EVEN MORE now.
NOBODY 2012
Big comfy truck and plenty of time.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Catch the last few seconds.
These scanners to be installed in 150 US airports in January.
AP: Better Airport Scanners Delayed by Privacy Fears
.. dunno how that's gonna keep a ter'rist from blowing up an international flight arriving in the US ..
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
".. dunno how that's gonna keep a ter'rist from blowing up an international flight arriving in the US .."
Exactly. They f*ck up, we suffer.
My kingdom for super powers :-)
NOBODY 2012
So, I was watching Larry King last night to get the underwear bomber update, as I haven't followed it. It does smell bad; doesn't add up. Ron Paul said we should consider why they are attacking us. Ben Stein (noted consevative) went ballistic and said they are attacking us "because they are psycho". That was the totality of his reasoning. Then a big fight ensued and you couldn't hear what they were saying.
Because they are psycho. That's a conservative for ya. That's all they need. Spread unreasoned fear. Repeat often.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Paul said the root cause of the terrorists is "the occupation" ..
Which to Stein could only refer to Israel's Occupation of Palestine ..
So Stein started calling Paul anti-semitic ..
And it went downhill from there ..
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
I couldn't hear all that. Typical. Ron Paul was right, imo. They're back on tonight, so I'll watch round 2.
At least they seemed reasonable about this "war on terror" not being a war, and the failure seems to be 16 intelligence agencies not sharing information. Until they share info, it's useless.
PS The USA has, apparently, recently done some bombing in Yemen. The underwear bomber claimed that's why he "attacked". Blowback.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
PPS: See the USA is the Empire, and those that attack are like the rebels we cheer on in Star Wars.
Here's how I sometimes see it: America is the DeathStar, and Americans are fed (inside-the-bubble) DeathStar news.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
I LIKE that, wot you wrote! V.good!:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icqrx0OimSs&fm...
Thanks 99!
I watched that before I came into C&L. Excellent. Spread the word: make it go viral!!
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Thanks for the great clip, lafingas!
Excellent! I hope this video goes viral too.
NOBODY 2012
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