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By bluegal Monday Dec 15, 2008 8:30pmRude Pundit suggests sending shoes to Bush.
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I sent my satire vid out to a couple people to make sure I wasn't inciting violence, etc.
It's important to remember the cultural context (even if the freepers will never get it). The guy did not hurl the shoes to hurt Bush. He did it to show his contempt for everything Bush stands for. That's why mailing shoes to Bush (sans explosives, natch) is so perfect.
It may seem like a violent act on the tee vee, but I strongly suspect the shoes were not even thrown that hard. If you watch the video, Bush had plenty of time to duck and "Malarkey" even tried to catch the second one.
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What about sending worn smelly socks? Socks are softer on postage weight and adds an original aura of appreciation.
Had the heel of the shoe whacked Bush in exactly the right spot of his forehead it could have caused brain hemorrhage and he could have died.
Weirder shit has happened to people and they've died.
The human body is a pretty fragile instrument.
As to sending him shoes, I'd prefer those of us who are in the NYC area go to Rep. Nadler's office and sit-in (with shoes??) imploring him to start the wheels in motion to have Bush and Co. indicted for international war crimes.
Here's a good link to support my position:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
I can't believe Rude Pundit stole my idea. Ok, it was probably thought of by about 10,000 of us, but hey. :)
Actually, I rather like the thought of everyone converging at the WH and throwing 1000 pairs of shoes simultaneously onto the WH grounds.
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Follow up on the man who threw the shoes.
He is an Iraqi / world national hero. Let's follow up on this brave soul. (no pun intended.
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Mr al-Zaidi has the support of billions of people worldwide. He's a good man.
At least in Iraq, the punishment for insulting a foreign leader and the Iraqi prime minister is reasonable. Maximum two years in jail.
If it had happened in the USA, Zaidi would be looking at at least 20 years and if it happened in Texas possible life or even lethal injection. Punishment in the US is all about revenge.
Iraqi TV claims shoe-throwing reporter being tortured at US-run prison.
http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/12/16/urgent-...
Brother Explains Shoe-Tossing Iraqi Journalist’s Anger
http://baghdadbureau.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/1...
Blogs across America should be drawing attention to this.
Forget the chuckles. It's past that now.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least that this poor guy is being tortured. He's probably on his way to Gitmo right now.
earlier today that he had been released due to mass demonstrations calling for his release.
Thousands of Iraqis have taken to the streets to demand the release of the reporter who threw his shoes at President Bush, hailing the journalist as a hero and praising his insult.
but until I see the guy and hear what he has to say, I'm skeptical.
They probably released a double. Meanwhile he's being seriously worked over 24/7 (or will have been by week's end.)
I already offered to marry him in another thread, if it would get him to Canada. :-)
Well, here's what ABC reported Bush had to say about it:
Bush is an arrogant SOB, isn't he?
Anthony Pelicano wire-taps, he gets 15 years. Bush wire-taps, he gets a slap on the wrist. Get with the program, MS...Looks like a family which won on Extreme Makeover lost the battle against greedy HMOs. Speaking of showing little compassion for people with disabilities, shame on you, SNL! At least that shoe "assailant" is objective. Looks like an "activist judge" chose to protect those scammed investors' assets. Too bad no one will protect the lost property value of home-owners ripped off in a national Ponzi scheme. Madoff strikes again in Europe. Cheney continues to defend Gitmo.
Your Ponzi scheme link is incorrect.
Thanks for your links!!
No, it's correct. The only reason he's getting busted is he's one man. But those lenders get to continue their little Ponzi activities because they "can't fail".
Gotcha.
disabilities, shame on you, SNL!
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Agree completely. The most ill-advised, cold-hearted, pointless skit I think I've seen from SNL. Not sure what the f*ck they were thinking.
Theory of 'Second Shoe Thrower' Raised by Abdullah al-Stone
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That was awesome.
Cheney admits to approving torture
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Cheney_admits_a...
Cheney: ‘Guantanamo Has Been Well Run’
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/15/cheney-gu...
Cheney: Water-boarding was appropriate
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/bl...
Cheney Admits He Approved Torture--Will Media Stop Obsessing Over Trivial shit Long Enough to Pay Attention?
http://www.theseminal.com/2008/12/15/cheney-a...
See, this is what America should be talking about along with the implosion of its economy. There should be a national discussion about torture and 9/11. Would the people of America approve of torturing the supposed "mastermind" of 9/11? Is this justified? And if so, does that mean that America does not occupy a moral high ground anymore as it always claimed to have?
Rep. Dennis Kucinich on His Battle With the Banks
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081215_...
Kucinich has Introduced a New Bill, HR 7260, for Transparency of the Fed, Injections of Money and Issues of How Fed Policy Affects Wealth Distribution
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h7260/show
The Securities and Exchange Commission reportedly looked into Madoff's operation and found nothing wrong!
http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/15/magazines/for...
I really loved the gesture. The President of the US forced to suffer the indignity of dodging a shoe thrown at him. It was perfect. There was humiliation on his face and body language. One has a glimmer of hope that the spirits of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis that died by his hand are smiling a little tonight.
The Iraqi women threw shoes at a picture of Saddam after he was overthrown.
And so it has begun: the chronic feeding of misinformation about a Democratic politician by the mainstream media - and Obama hasn't even taken the oath of office on his Koran yet!
"Obama delays public release of Blagojevich contact findings" went the headline. The truth of the matter, of course, is that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald requested that Obama and his staff delay their findings so as not to compromise Fitzgerald's ongoing investigation.
Shame on either Yahoo News (the headline was on their website) or the McCain-loving Associated Press (the article was written by the AP, though they may not have written the headline, and I am not familiar enough with Yahoo News headline policies to determine accurately which party is responsible).
Let the running tab begin . . .
more of that far left media. What is a far left media? There doesn't seem to be any.
So what on question about no Al Quaeda in Iraq.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/BushLegacy/sto...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28244...
A young Christian woman
Was given a new pair of shoes.
They were made of cowhide
And needn’t tying or polishing.
She wore them for days on end,
Obediently walking in tow
For what seemed an eternity,
Until she was standing at the
Beautiful brown feet of Allah.
“You must give the shoes back now.”
“To whom?” she asked.
God then motioned downward
Toward a group of young patriots
Weeping plaintively.
“There. They need them now, Jill,
So they might go home.”
She then removed the new shoes
And dropped them from the sky
…like a bomb.
What about sending worn smelly socks? Socks are softer on postage weight and adds an original aura of appreciation.
I'm sure there will be lots of shoe throwing remixes coming out, and I can't wait. I'm looking forward to a Bush shoe-throwing remix that is as good as the ultimate JAG HAR MENSVARK remix.
Russia still hasn't recognized the dangers of the KGB running its film industry. Cholera has killed almost 1,000 people and affected over 18,000 in Zimbabwe. Robert Woodie tries to spin the shoe assault. The Secret Service is baffled. Tom Cruise finally states the obvious. Congress thinks the banks can get a free pass when it comes to bail-outs, but not anyone else. Looks like another Bush crony denied protections for endangered species.
Before you spend your last dollar, might I suggest you buy an UZI for when Blackwater breaks down your front door.
You want me to support the arms industry? You want me to conduct myself in a violent way when those we oppose are more comfortable, more able and more willing to use violence against people who are violent?
No thank you.
Mattel is settling.
The good news is drains will have to be replaced to ensure better safety for children. The bad news is public pools unable to comply will be forced to close.
Seems like an awful lot of work for relatively few deaths across the country. Why the need to install a second drain? Would seem that that would require total reconstruction of the pools. Why would people be in the pools when they are being drained anyway? Shouldn't kids be required to be supervised when swimming anyway?
In these days of dwindling municipal resources, I doubt many city pools will be open this year anyway.
A classic look at the history of Iraq by British comedian and impersonator Rory Bremner. The video starts from the recent history of Mesopotamia and ends with the run up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq by coalition forces.
Probably not the best idea. They will be sent to a screening facility in Virginia and tossed out there. They won't even reach Washington, D.C. let alone George Bush. He will not even hear about them. The workers in Virginia will have a mess on their hands and will not be allowed to talk about it.
The post office won't mind a bit.
How about collecting a pair of shoes for everyone killed in Iraq and getting a permit to line them up on the Mall in DC? No throwing arm required.
and it should be a public act to be visible. Whatever Americans do must be accompanied by reporters and photographers (the blogs can send their people since the MSM won't cover protests), or no one will ever hear about it. The point is mockery. Too bad we can't get the names of Iraqis killed in the invasion and occupation as well as Americans. We could include them as well and have literally mountains of shoes.
bring a pair and leave them there? Afterwards, they could be distributed or left for the needy.
Leave them under a huge banner saying, "These shoes kicked Bush out of office! Give a pair to someone who can use them!"
Donate any left-overs to Salvation Army and Good Will Centers.
There is nothing worse for your back or your feet than a brand new pair of used shoes.
good used shoes at thrift stores. My current pair of used New Balance walking shoes (about $5) gets about four miles of use per day during my job. Not bad...
I use used sneakers from the thrift store for work at the farm all the time. At least 3 miles a milking! And I use them until they about fall apart.
But not hard shoes.
For those without shoes, I think any shoes that keep your feet warm are good.
That is actually a great idea, I think. I remember hearing that a group had done a demonstration where they lined up pairs of combat boots for each American soldier killed in Iraq... But if someone lined up shoes for everyone killed in this senseless war, men, women, and children alike, it might really drive the point home about the devastation...except maybe for the oblivious, like Dubya..
Trillions in lost ice.
History has been made, and nobody could have anticipated it. Bush will NEVER live down this shoe-throwing! It will become firmly attached to his name in history, and it's quite possible that shoe-throwing will become a gesture of protest all over the world -- not just in midEastern countries -- in the 100th monkey effect.
Carter survived that rabbit canoe attack thing, after all.
Ha! I'd forgotten all about that! But Carter wasn't hated around the world as Bush is, and that swimming rabbit wasn't an expression of human rage at Carter!
I AM concerned about the well-being of that reporter, though reports of his being tortured will only raise him in the estimation of millions. I can't imagine any Iraqi WANTING to punish him, as contemptuous as his gesture was.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/1...
and a.s., from one of his multiple posts
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
can pelosi and reid NOT be reelected to their leadership positions, please, thanks
Thanks for the links. GG is an American treasure, and I am SO grateful that he's able to reach us through the written word.
GG, Glenn Greenwald is a treasure.
GG, Garden Grove, CA (Garbage Grove to locals) is, well, something less: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJvUfglkZAc
have you read this:http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2008/12/because-we-wont-have-him-to-kick-around_15.html
The thing that ticks me off is that r repugs AND Dems who knew what bush was doing and they DID NOTHING.
I hope Obama appointa a special prosecutor and give him or her All the tools to put the people who did this shit to our country in prision, for EVER no matter what party they are in.
this guy is so "ARROGANT" Why is he not in prision. in an TV interview tell it all.
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2008/12/becaus...
Now with HIS New deal with Iraq, more American will Die, will he care, no he will just go to Tx and live in his 2.1 million dollar house with his "servants"
My friends and I have been discussing sending shoes to W. An alternative would be sending a printout of a sole of a shoe with a message on it.
"This is a goodbye kiss from the American people - those you have killed or maimed for an illegal war, the orphans and widows/widowers you have created, those you left to float in New Orleans, those you have made jobless and/or homeless, the children you have left behind by robbing them of a future and all of us who have been stripped of our constitutional rights by you."
I will send my shoe today.
F*ck the shoes. Throw the whole f*cking shoe closet at the SOB.
Shoes being thrown at the statue of Saddam and at Bush himself. Appropriate to say the least. Both are mass murderers of Iraqi civilians for their own self-serving political and financial agendas. The only difference between the two "men" is Saddam didn't kill over 4500 American soldiers and destabilize Iraq in the process so by that measure Bush is worse than Saddam.
Bush and Saddam are cut from the same cloth. The only other difference between the two is one has paid a the ultimate price for his crimes, the other is getting off lightly by have a pair of shoe hurled at him.
When Bush moves into is 2 million dollar house in that rich white Dallas suburb I wonder what kind of welcome he's going to get from his rich white neighbors when the man responsible for their stock portfolios and 401K's dropping through the floor ends up moving down the street.
Something tells me Neiman Marcus is going to have a run on shoes the week before Bush moves in.
Ok congress, DO YOUR JOB:http://www.newser.com/story/45419/cheney-i-okd-waterboarding.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua05RTaDE8o
...reminds me of Wag the Dog.
How bout Nancy Sinatra's "These boots are made for Walking".
I say we send him E.F.A. posters.
Unfamiliar with E.F.A.?
Check out the film about them (For free) here: http://www.comingsoon.cz.
(You can also watch it on Google: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1524...)
Hilarious flick!
..looks intriguing :)
The Norwegian shoe throw game - http://flash.vg.no/grafikk/2008/bush/kast_sko...
I was listening to the radio this morning on the way to work. And I caught a comment that stated,That there has been over 5 million acres of ice lost in the Arctic, Antarctic and Greenland.
I could be mistaken on this. But I think I heard this correctly.
At any rate. Check this out.
I believe the report I heard was from NASA.
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