January 14, 2009 08:30 PM
Open Thread
The pop-culture references in the last episode of MST3K, in digest format for your viewing convenience. Open Thread below....
The pop-culture references in the last episode of MST3K, in digest format for your viewing convenience. Open Thread below....

Asia is down almost 6%. Wallstreets day was a little worse than the numbers indicated.
Bank of America dipped well below $10 per share in after hours trading. After all that money we put into them they are joining the ranks of Wachovia, Citi, WaMu, etc. That is kind of scary.
last night i posted a link for the entire prisoner series, little did i know that mr mcgoohan was near death
this man created a series that was 20 years ahead of its time, and still resonates today in terms of its politics and remains one of the most multilayered hour longs ever created
of course, he wasnt just number 6...he had many other roles, and played both hero and villian with aplomb
no longer can he be numbered, folded, spindled, briefed or debriefed...he died a man
and not much to say about mr montalban, the only actor that i know that could make a car commercial seem classy....one of the most suave and sophisticated men on the planet...and damn, his khan in star trek will always be one of the greatest creations ever to be seen on the small or big screen
to read how classy mr montalban really was, check out this piece from mark evanier
http://www.newsfromme.com/
Kucinich proposing legislation to take control of the money supply away from the Federal Reserve, slams fractional reserve banking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPBE15DIy8E
Hit TV Series 'Rescue Me' takes on 9/11 theories.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu551QLGJog
Pro-Israel Rally For Attacking Gaza, NYC, 1-11-09 - "Wipe them all out!" - including prominent politicians supporting the rally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABqq_jjRRo&eu...
Some Bastards in Israel think using White Phosphorus in populated areas is okay.
http://jezekiah.wordpress.com/2009/01/13/the-... <--[WARNING GRAPHIC PIC]
he has been front and center and dead on with several big issues lately. The guys talking like he is president. Doesn't matter how much you support Obama I think if Dennis were president we would all sleep a little better at night.
Kucinich: Federal Reserve No More "Federal" Than Federal Express!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR2EtMteHCg
kucinich the only honest man in the democrat primaries, hes the guy who should be sworn in as president on tuesday!
articles, and he won the election, he would have been in office already for two months, Bush and Cheney would be 10 weeks into their sentences, and most of the essential changes would have already been enacted.
Then I woke up.
"Then I woke up"
Or the meds wore off.
The House could have voted for impeachment, but the Senate didn't have enough of a majority to convict.
second, I forgot that some, perhaps you yourself, believe in political expediency over than principle. I take it you never would have sought impeachment since it never would have gone past the senate?
Simply WRONG. I wrote my congressman wanting him to get behind Kucinich to impeach. You guys think you are the only ones to have solutions. You can't imagine that the rest of us try to get something done.
so what was your criticism with my comment?
you take it that I would never never would have sought impeachment. I did, plus I did this and mailed it to my congressperson and senators plus Kucinch and others. Don't assume.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/...
Gawd needs to come down and kick some zionist ass.
comparing his bris to a girl being slashed around the head
max shouldve attended to anti israel protest in west la on the 10th and asked these people why they were screaming about the intifada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17yfIGhvzPE&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvsh7h5NL0I&fe...
but i guess max thinks that those screaming to continue suicide bombers is a good thing
oh, and on yesterday morning's america now program, a spokesperson for human rights watch admitted that the use of wp or other "illegal" arms could not be confirmed nor denied
Human Rights Watch strongly disagree with you:
http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2009/01/10/israel-...
It looks like you've got some explaining to do.
he is the one who has some explaining to do
he said that they were unable to confirm any of the reports because they are not allowed into gaza
so someone from their org is not being truthful
sorry
Pro-Israel Rally Descends Into Calls for 'Wiping Out' Palestinians
http://www.alternet.org/story/119372/pro-isra...
one of the protestors in miami, during an anti israeli protest was screaming to nuke israel and for jews to go back to the ovens
after hearing stuff like this...think jews are going to feel love?
http://davereed.org/2006/07/292/
Did you? It sounded like they were chanting "long live the intifadah."
Where was the Pro-sucide bombers rant? Missed it.
It sounded a lot like people were chanting to Free Palestine.
The Jews are always dancing in the streets when the Israeli planes bomb Gaza.
The Palestinians dance in the streets when a suicide bomber blows up a bus.
The whole damn thing is a spectator sport.
blew up a bus?
the second intifada was when the suicide bombings started
guess you missed that, or didnt care to notice
these arent ghandi's we are talking about
but if max was being honest, he wouldve attended an anti israel rally and asked similar questions
up a bus? I think it was a very long time ago.
When is the last time Israel dropped bombs on a home filled with women and children? Oh, about a minute ago.
Of coarse Kucinich knows what best, the rest of them will blow him off just like when he tried to up hold rule of law. Our government is suckin it up man.
Wow that last picture is far worse than the 1 I saw earlier of a decapitated child's head is a pile of rubble on the street.
Thanks for all of your hard work you put in to spreading the truth. Much appreciated.
BofA is going back for more TARP funds. these financial institutions are in deeper than they lead on. still deleveraging....credit default swaps and mortgage backed securities. there's probably other derivatives oil swaps. if you didn't watch it yet i recommend the PBS showing of The Ascent of Money..by Niall Ferguson smart and informative. it's available on the pbs.org site
So much for torture being useful in capturing more terrorists. We can't even prosecute one, even if there is evidence against him! Atheists have a problem with a certain line in Obama's oath. Speaking of people tried on questionable circumstances, a white guy on Death Row was exonerated because Texas hates black jurors. Oh, and the first guy to appeal and win his case on the basis of DNA evidence died. Pollution forces Aussies to get stuck with two-headed fish. Yes, Bush, you were good for the economy. Too bad it was the Chinese economy. I swear, how dark-skinned does Madoff have to be to get a prison sentence? New Yawkas don't like Caroline, possibly because she's not as much of an opportunist using family connections as the last person who had her seat. ABC sez, if you lose your decent-paying professional job, you can still achieve your dreams waiting on people and selling unearthed junk on E-bay. Who knew?! The Vatican thinks that victims of human-trafficking don't deserve birth control and family planning services.
these GITMO detainees can be held with no evidence at all just heresay. not even a witness and/or cross examination. now these detainees probably can't voice for themselves after the brainwashing. sometimes i think that bush/CHENEY wanted al queda/taliban to know that they torturing detainees. why? to heighten the confrontation. to give creedence to the cause...especially when people were questioning the "WMD" and 9-11.
They needed confessions to justify the invasions.
Check out rifftrax.com if you enjoyed MST3k. The same crew makes tracks you can play over *popular* movies, and they are hilarious.
I suggest Iron Man.
On a side note... MST3k FTW...
This just in-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/14/b...
What financial crisis or just change?
Maybe they got some of the funds they were saving for the Iraq victory party [tee hee]. Especially loved the line about the "transfer of power", right, meet the new boss, same as the old.
Not surprised at the cost though, I mean, remember when shrub had the record for most obscene campaign spending, then Obama beat him by getting even bigger corporate donations. Really wish that position would actually open up to everyone and not just the well monied and connected, sigh.
A coalition of nine mainstream Israeli human rights groups called on the Government of Israel to act immediately to end further violations of the Law of War in Gaza and relieve the humanitarian crisis in the territory.
The document reads:
Warning of a clear and present danger to the lives and well-being of tens of thousands of civilians.
Since the beginning of the campaign in Gaza on December 27, a heavy suspicion has arisen of grave violations of international humanitarian law by military forces. After the end of the hostilities, the time will come for the investigation of this matter, and accountability will be demanded of those responsible for the violations. At this point we call your attention to the clear and present danger to the lives and well-being of tens of thousands of civilians.
The level of harm to the civilian population is unprecedented. According to the testimony of residents of the Gaza Strip and media reports, military forces are making wanton use of lethal force which has to date caused the deaths of hundreds of uninvolved civilians and destroyed infrastructure and property on an enormous scale. In addition, Israel is also hitting civilian objects, having defined them as "legitimate military targets" solely by virtue of their being "symbols of government."
Caught in the middle are 1.5 million civilians in extreme humanitarian distress, whose needs are not being adequately met by the limited measures taken by the army. That distress is detailed in the Appendix to this letter. Its main points are as follows:
1. The fighting is taking place throughout the Gaza Strip, whose border crossings are closed, so that residents have nowhere to flee, neither inside the Gaza Strip nor by leaving it. Many are unable to escape from the battle zone to protect themselves. They are forced to live in fear and terror. The army's demand that they evacuate their homes so as to avoid injury has no basis. Some people who did escape are living as refugees, stripped of all resources.
2. The health system has collapsed. Hospitals are unable to provide adequate treatment to the injured, nor can patients be evacuated to medical centers outside of the Gaza Strip. This state of affairs is causing the death of injured persons who could have been saved. Nor are chronic patients receiving the treatment they need. Their health is deteriorating, and some have already died.
3. Areas that were subject to intensive attacks are completely isolated. It is impossible to know the condition of the people who are there, whether they are injured and need treatment and whether they have food, water and medicine. The army is preventing local and international rescue teams from accessing those places and is also refraining from helping them itself, even though it is required to do so by law.
4. Many of the residents do not have access to electricity or running water, and in many populated areas sewage water is running in the streets. That combination creates severe sanitation problems and increases the risk of an outbreak of epidemics.
This kind of fighting constitutes a blatant violation of the laws of warfare and raises the suspicion, which we ask be investigated, of the commission of war crimes.
The responsibility of the State of Israel in this matter is clear and beyond doubt. The army's complete control of the battle zones and the access roads to them does not allow Israel to transfer that responsibility to other countries. Therefore we call on you to act immediately as follows:
1. Stop the disproportionate harm to civilians, and stop targeting civilian objects that do not serve any military purpose, even if they meet the definition of "symbols of government."
2. Open a route for civilians to escape the battle zone, while guaranteeing their ability to return home at the end of the fighting.
3. Provide appropriate and immediate medical care to all of the injured and ill of the Gaza Strip, either by evacuating them to medical centers outside of the Gaza Strip or by reaching another solution inside the Gaza Strip.
4. Allow rescue and medical teams to reach battle-torn zones to evacuate the injured and bring supplies to those who remain there. Alternatively, the army must carry out those activities itself.
5. Secure the proper operation of the electricity, water and sewage systems so that they meet the needs of the population.
stock market recovery not the same as economic recovery. stock market generally 6 months ahead of economy. man the bottom is NO where to be found. the yen is getting killed. japan is so dependent on us buying their t.v.'s (C) announces earnings friday should be interesting
Who is making all the money? Somebody or rather somebodies have to be making a killing off of this.
your correct......it's a trading market. people shorting/putsbond traders
You got your inside man in the bank.
He gives out a shitty loan; not becuase he is loaning to a loser; but, the mortgage is written with fucked up interests rates that go up and up. People don't know how to read banker fine print. It's like a foreign language.
People then place bets on the fact that the smuck is going to lose his house. No brainer there.
The bank ends up with a defaulted loan; a house that nobody wants to buy; and a bunch of bad gambling debts.
These people are using paperwork to embezzle billions from the banks.
Where the hell are the cops?
The document continues:
Damage to the health system in Gaza and prevention of evacuation of casualties
* Six cases of army shooting at medical teams have been documented by human rights organizations. 12 medical personnel have been killed, and 17 were injured.
* We know so far of 15 cases of attacks on medical facilities, including a medical supply warehouse, three mobile clinics, a mental health center, the walls and windows of three government hospitals and a number of rescue vehicles. Direct attacks were recorded in the European hospital and the Dura hospital, an UNRWA facility and the Safha Al-Harazin clinic in Shuja'iya.
* There are delays of an average of between 2 and 10 hours in coordination between the army and the medical teams for evacuation or transfer of casualties. In most cases, the army does not respond at all to the requests made to it. The human rights organizations know of more than 100 civilians who were trapped for more than 24 hours, including dozens of injured, without any medical care, sometimes without water or food either. In one case a family of 21 (including six injured) waited seven days until the army allowed Red Cross representatives to evacuate them. In two other cases families waited more than 36 hours for evacuation. The organizations believe there are other similar cases that have not yet been documented.
* The Gaza health system is in a state of total collapse after more than a year and a half of continuous closure: a severe shortage of medical equipment and medications, a shortage of skilled personnel, the absence of knowledge and experts to treat complex injuries and more. According to the Palestinian Health Ministry, only 30% of the medical equipment and medications permitted to be transferred to the Gaza Strip meet the needs and of its hospitals and are responsive to their shortages.
* There are 2050 hospital beds in the Gaza Strip (1500 in government hospitals and 550 in private clinics). The intensive care unit at Shifa Hospital was reinforced from 12 beds to 30. Since January 1, 2009 the unit has been at full capacity, even though since January 6, 2009, each day an average of five patients are sent from it to Egypt. The health system is maintaining a 75% capacity at Shifa while at other hospitals, the capacity is 95%. The treatment of chronic patients, including cancer patients, liver patients, dialysis patients and others, has stopped almost completely due to a shortage of hospital beds in the departments and of available doctors.
* 850 chronic patients and hundreds of injured from the Israeli assaults need to be referred to medical treatment outside of Gaza since December 27, 2008. Of them, just three wounded and a few dozen ill patients have been evacuated to Israel while 250 injured were evacuated to Egypt through the Rafah Crossing. Since January 6, 2009 no additional patients have been transferred to Israel for medical care.
* Shifa Hospital and the other government hospitals in Gaza city operated without electricity supply using generators for a week between January 3-10. Since January 10, 2009 the hospital has been receiving electricity for 8-12 hours a day. Throughout the month of January the other hospitals in the Gaza Strip have been receiving electricity for an average of 4-8 hours a day. The rest of the time the hospitals rely on generators. In at least one case when a generator broke down at the Al-Quds hospital it remains without any electricity supply and life-saving medical equipment stopped working.
* Patients who are at home are exposed to heightened risk because of the shortage of electricity, which prevents the regular use of household medical equipment operated by electricity as well as heating devices.
Thank you for all of this information.
i second that a lot of good info.
ahh...MST3K. I miss that show.
Rifftrax is cool, but Cinematic Titanic is also good for those MSTies who need a fix. Check www.cinematictitanic.com. (Features Joel Hodgson, Trace Beaulieu, Frank Conniff and other original writers/performers from the MST3K days.
Too . . much . . reality . . this . . WEEK!!
Must . . escape.
I'll be checking out that site shortly and I may not be back. . well, I'll be back tomorrow to watch Eric Holder confirmation hearing. BTW, I couldn't stand not knowing the movie being skewered -- it's Diabolik from 1986. What'd we ever do without http://www.imdb.com ?
From Democracy Now
A leading Israeli scholar says Israel is committing "state terror" in Gaza.
lunch with conservative pundits was an insult. Those individuals have no more credibility about politics than my cat. Obama only stroked their egos. Why should ANYONE give a rat's ass what they think? Because they are on TV? Because they write editorials?
Obama kissed their collective asses. I cannot respect any man who would consort with those fools. There is no justification for such an act.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
Maybe Obama was able to talk some sense into them?
It never hurts to try.
..which the world as a whole is in short need of these days.
I applaud President Obama for reaching out.
to agree, there has been far too much knee jerkin' going on everywhere.
That these turds were diplomats. Maybe diplomats for the Ministry of Information.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
Announces his candidacy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJCZ6juNAyY
That squares my chin.
Dogs and Whistles
china uses coal for 75% of their energy needs. as we all know coal is dirty. guess where some of that air polution goes.it travels in wind currents to california. they need more petroleum. we need to switch to the green thing and now.
Ok lets livin' it up around here a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qt7wjyDang&fe...
MUAHAHAHAAAA
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R E M E M B E R:
Had George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney cared enough to get Osama bin Laden, there wouldn't be an ongoing threat from that all elusive enemy held at bay...
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.
the wal-mart CEO was interviewed by charlie ROSE tonight. actually a good interview. personally, i'm NOT into wal-mart. having said that ROSE asked lee scott about the stores/company but also the economy, now and the future. like it or NOT this company is the "playa". when ROSE asked about healthCARE he said he believes the government needs to be involved. this has also been my argument: he doesn't believe
people paying will NOT be able to continue to subsidize the people(not paying/able to pay) without insurance. i haven't followed this guy much but that is huge in my mind.
American schools still suck and oppress minorities. The SCOTUS continues to undermine your civil liberties in an arrest. Texas carries out its first lynching, er execution, of '09.
Oh thank you for that video. I used to love getting up on Saturday morning and watching MST3K. I miss it so much. Nothing like beginning the weekend laughing like hell.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
unabated. Their limits, laws enforcing the taking are even more lax than Mississippi, Alabama, etc.
http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/columnists...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I have been reading about this for some time now and it just makes me sick that nothing is getting done to stop it. Didn't Charlie Crist call for a stop to it? Why the hell can't he get something done?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
unnoticed. I'm really surprised how little he has accomplished, given his initial widespread support. What the f*ck HAS he been doing?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
...is the funniest show on TV, hands down. I was very sorry to see it go. Has it been a decade already? Onward to the news out of Gaza:
I don't know what's more nauseating, folks: This right wing lunatic Palmor branding as a Hamas propagandist and leftist everyone who cites facts after having worked in this war zone or the United States Senate holding a vote while our nation is falling down around our ears in order to reaffirm Israel's right to defend itself. Which is sort of like a judge reaffirming a wife batterer's right to defend himself after sending his wife to the Critical Care Unit for scratching his face.
JP
http://giveusthisdayourdailtydread.blogspot.com
A battered spouse getting charged for scratching her abuser's face, and the courts saying he has a right to defend himself? Spot on.
French onion batter or chocolate?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Remember the story about the couple who gave their kids nazi like names and wanted the birthday cake for their son to say Happy Birthday Hitler?
Well here's more on them
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Is it just me, or have the comments on CNN's Political Ticker devolved into all the intellectual richness of a YouTube comment thread?
So, let me see if I have this straight. Is this person saying that $350 billion/300 million=$1 million? Or are they saying that there are, on average, a thousand people per household in the U.S.? Simple math equation indeed. (Oh, and don't get me started on the spelling and grammar... "their" instead of "there", "loose" inestead of "lose", etc.)
Maybe the remaining $350 billion of TARP funds would be better spent on the primary education system...
If the federal government told you, then banks might stop taking it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mj0JAfq4esk
Where do these people come from?
Of Huff, that I look at now. Truth IS stranger than fiction.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/13/mond...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCEfxBFu6q8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grbSQ6O6kbs
Backatchoo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wo7xSpc_Cc
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Monty Python was the Bestest!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZwuTo7zKM8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPGb4STRfKw&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I understand the Beatles were big fans and called Monty Pythons Flying Circus the Beatles of TV. The Rutles had to send their soundtrack and videos for their movie All You Need Is Cash for Beatles approval, and never got it back from John, because he love it so much, he wanted to keep it.
George produced the Rutles, and Monty Python movies.
Paul disliked the Rutles until he found out Linda Loveditt.
Ringo liked the earlier scenes, but not the disbanding scenes because they were too close to home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qf8y7v0WIE
And Yoko loved:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI1tdvH2L4U&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"anti-Israel" rally?
Does that mean what you posted above is an "anti-Palestinian" rally?
I went to a few demonstrations in NYC where about 10,000 attended. We chanted "Free Palestine", "End the occupation Now" and "No Justice, No Peace".
I can see how that would appear to be "anti-Israel" in your view, after all, Israel hates freedom, it hates Palestinians and has no intention of ending the occupation any time soon. So, yeah. I am anti-Israel in that respect. I also love self-determination, so that makes me anti-Israeli too, right?
The video Orangutan posted above shows what a bunch of delusional neanderthals attended that pro-Israel fest. Not a single person was even Israeli. They were either American Jews or Russian Jews who have no frigging idea as to what is going on over in the holy land. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that. They're no different than those Palin rallies.
went to the rally in Toronto. The "Pro-Israeli" protestors that showed up to show their support numbered less than 20. Pretty even. Not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhEQQoi55lI
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
From the Indian Ocean to the South Atlantic to the Gulf of Mexico, giant supertankers brimming with oil are resting at anchor or slowly tracing racetrack patterns through the sea, heading nowhere.
The ships are marking time, serving as floating oil-storage tanks. The companies and countries leasing them for that purpose have made a simple calculation: the price of oil has fallen so far that it is due for a rise.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/15/busine...
Supply and Demand. Hold onto the supply, until you create a demand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBQWkZBci84
We need more voices like hers. Thank you, glory box, for that link, even though watching it made me cry.
The Israel-Palestine madness must end. NOW.
I cried too. Her comments get right to the heart of it.
Here is the beautiful musician Brian Eno speaking truth to power about the Israeli massacre in Gaza. He is quite elequent. And here's one of his songs for you Calgary Lady.
Brian Eno - Always Returning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9Wdd8UBZUI&fe...
His music always makes me drift away...
That music is simply gorgeous and the images are beautiful.
Much appreciated!
January 15, 2009
Israel shells a hospital and a UN warehouse containing food and medical supplies.
"They are phosphorus fires so they are extremely difficult to put out because if you put water on it, it will just generate toxic fumes and do nothing to stop the burning," John Ging, the director of UN relief operations, said.
"This is going to burn down the entire warehouse ... thousands and thousands of tonnes of food, medical supplies and other emergency assistance are there."
Ban Ki-moon, the UN secretary-general, said he was "outraged" by the attack on the UN compound and demanded an explanation as he met Israeli officials in Tel Aviv.
Continued here...
The Israilis want the Gazan civilians to starve and die one way or the other.
End of story.
Tel Aviv will blow bullshit up Ban Ki-moon's ass and then walk away and do it again with impunity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVYIRbmxHpc
Brilliant! Thank you for posting this.
is the movie from which "The War Prayer" was excerpted.
It is one of my top ten of all times.
Think "The Little Rascals" meet "Apocalypse Now"
I have never seen it. Can't wait. I'm looking it up in my net flix right now.
Thanks for the tip.
Mark Twain was a very wise man indeed.
how many here will send thier sons and daughters for obummers soon to be war in afganistan, whats that you say? not me! and then you say besides afganistans not obummers war its the bush cheny war! and yet if its chenys war why is obummer calling it the right war? as if thier havent been enough coffins filled because of the right war! obummers in the pockets of the republicans and the corporations, where is the end to the search for ben ladden and how many more have to die for the lie of 911? if obummers so certain as he says he is that afganistans worth investing more of americas wealth and more of our citizens dieing for iraq and afganistan would he be willing to place his daughters lives at risk if they were old enough to fight in thoes countrys? ill tell you the answer !no he wouldnt and youd be a fool to send your kids there for him! and no he isnt president yet , but hes allready told you what his intention are , war .war and more war!
"Why, of course the people don't want war...Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship...(T)he people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
Herman Goering
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Now if they could only set it to a rap beat.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga03zNki-Y8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
3 cheers for Bernie Saunders for getting the Smithsonian to rewrite the caption on Bush's portrait that said the 9/11 attacks led to the Iraq War.
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