May 14, 2009 05:30 AM
Tea Party Leader Is Also a Tax Dodger
The timely blog Teablogging has revealed its sources:
According to documents obtained by Teablogging by running a goddamned simple Nexis search on the internets, national Tea Party organizer, Top Conservatives on Twitter cofounder and TCOTReport.com publisher Michael P. Leahy has, over the past 16 years, amassed nearly $150,000 in state and federal tax liens, small claims court judgments and civil suits.
Teablogging has .pdfs of all the documentation. My own impression looking them over is that Mike thinks the rules are for everyone else. Why protest taxes if you think you're not required to pay 'em in the first place?
I'm not and neither is my goat.
At 5:42 am pst, the two crew members are in the airlock for the first spacewalk to upgrade the Hubble.
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"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
This reminds me of Mark Foley working to protect kids from sexual abuse.
The ones who complain the loudest are often the most guilty.
Maybe Mr. Leahy is protesting taxes because he's tired of fighting against paying them. What a jerk!
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I'd start a list of Conservative Hypocrites, but I believe there are already entire websites dedicated to that.
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
Timothy Geithner..anyone...anyone? The list on the Democratic side is longer I believe, not to mention most of them are holding high seats in the current administration.
"Why protest taxes if you think you're not required to pay 'em in the first place?" Oh I don't know...maybe because people believe their taxes are to high? Maybe because the KGB (I mean the IRS) has no due process and can invoke actions they deem sufficient.
"For years, the IRS has proclaimed that the great virtue of America's tax system is that it's voluntary. How does the IRS define "voluntary"? It says that the tax is voluntary because everyone computes his own income tax liability and sends the amount owed to the government. In other words, if the government calculated the tax liability for the citizenry, the tax would be involuntary. But since the people themselves are permitted to compute the liability, the tax is voluntary.
One can only wonder, of course, how many public-school-trained Americans believe this nonsense. The truth is that the income tax is no more voluntary than the military draft. If you fail or refuse to pay, they will seize you, fine you, jail you."
Whatever, you have to tell yourself to get through this.
Stating the facts. If you notice, I did not state my personal feelings on the matter. I used maybe this, or maybe that. My own feelings on the matter would be another issue :)
Except the item about the Democratic side being longer, this is absolute truth.
has gone downhill significantly. Maybe the under funding, due to lack of tax revenue, is having a very negative effect in troll schools?
do not accept government funds or controls at Troll home schools.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Really? The IRS says paying taxes is voluntary? I would love to see a link to somewhere that they say that - otherwise I think you pulled that out of your talking points.
Let me Google that for you.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tax+system+voluntary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7mRSI8yWwg
http://taxes.about.com/od/taxplanning/a/taxba...
http://hubpages.com/hub/What_the_word_Volunta...
Interesting, not an IRS page among 'em. Still, you did provide the answer from one of your links:
Ah, so it's not that paying taxes are voluntary, it's just choosing which method you're going to calculate what you have to pay is voluntary.
That's not going to help Mr. Leahy much.
No part of the tax payment/filing process is voluntary. But the system is called "voluntary compliance."
http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=172790,0...
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-news/tax_gap_repor...
So the taxpayer has filing, reporting, and payment obligations, but it's a voluntary system. Uh huh.
to pay our taxes to keep our society functioning. If you don't agree, then get off my roads, stop putting your sewage in my treatment plant, and deliver your own damn mail. Until you stop doing all these things, as well as all the others that are funded by tax dollars, STFU and pay your share. To do otherwise is to be unpatriotic.
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" - Red Green
Freedom Ain't Free - Pay Your Share
If it's an obligation, then tell the IRS to stop calling it voluntary.
not paid for by the federal income tax
local funding, not paid for by the federal income tax
paid for by user fees and not to my knowledge funded by the federal income tax
So none of the roads or public works in your area have ever been funded, in whole or in part, by federal tax dollars?
I hate to break it to you, but if you believe that, you are seriously wrong. City, county, state governments - all of them compete, quite ferociously, for dollars coming back from the federal government.
And while the post office may not get direct tax dollars, your mail DOES still need those tax dollars to be delivered. Local carriers drive on those tax-supported roads. The airmail is delivered on planes taking advantage of tax-dollar-paid air traffic controllers.
Do we really need to have this conversation?
Mail I pay for on a per use basis, same as fed ex. If they aren't making enough on it to cover their expenses raise the rates.
Sewage I also pay for on a per use basis, to my cities water department. Again if they aren't charging enough raise the rates.
Roads, should be paid for through state and local taxes and fees which I pay, with the federal portion coming from the postal system which is the constitutional basis for it. And perhaps some from the general fund for the regulation of interstate commerce clause.
I have used exactly the same word as you. Amazing the number of people out there who are like the esteemed Governor of Texas, Perry, who was all about leaving the Union until the Swine Flu outbreak, then wanted a lot of government help on the matter. All for them and none for the country they all claim to love so well.
http://www.republicanoffenders.com/
they are not organizing big protests over taxes. So can't see as how the fabulous patriots of the GOP who don't want to give money to the government in the form of taxes so that the government can do its business....can't see why you wouldn't note that as being highly hypocritical. One of the ladies in my old business used to say to her customers, "You want.....you want....but you don't wish to pay." She should meet some of these guys.
This is something I learned by 5th grade:
"To" = preposition i.e., "I went TO the store."
"Two" = cardinal number, i.e., "I bought TWO apples."
"Too" = excessive amount, i.e., "TOO many idiots protesting that their taxes are TOO high while mocking "public-school-trained Americans".
Seriously, if you're going to call other people stupid, at least proof-read your own post.
Anyone who actually attended a "Tea party" knows from the atmosphere that the majority of protests didn't have shit to do with taxes. I would be more shocked if this phony had a positive record on civil rights than diligence concerning his taxes.
Gotta love it.....all these (Republican) "RULE OF LAW" 'we are a nation "OF LAWS"...."NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW"....
remember the nineties??!!!! That is all we heard.....but it makes a BIG difference as to whom that pertains....
(in our paper today some guy has been thrown into contempt of court because he refuses to testify...um.....perhaps our "congress" needs a little re-education in that field..)
And we all know it doesn't pertain to Republicans.... IOKIYAR
A lot of these people say that the IRS is reading the law wrong and that they do not owe income taxes.
And they have a case (sort of) based on legalese semantics.
It hinges on the legal definitions, within the law, of the terms "taxpayer," "gross income," and simply "income."
Well isn't that...what's the word....fuckin ironic...
I am not the slightest bit surprised.
How is it ironic?
It's like saying "That war protester didn't show up when they drafted him and he went AWOL." or "That civil rights protester sat in the front of the bus."
The guy protests the tax system, and he tries not to pay them. Seems like he's pretty much "on message" to me.
Freedom isn't free.
As they are fond of noting when others are at risk...
...next you'll be telling me that high-profile critic of drug use Rush Limbaugh is a drug user himself. Sorry, I ain't buying it. :)
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
That would be a good analogy if Rush Limbaugh were a drug use proponent, and he used drugs, not the other way around.
Anti semantic.
Either drop the "ogy" or substitute "pathology."
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Why weren't tea baggers raising hell when our tax money was and, maybe still is, going to pay for Blackwater's services?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
"We need to fight 'em over there so we don't fight 'em here."
Or something like that.
Just another reason why Garafolo was dead on when she called them racists. Taxes are well spent when used to blow the faces off of brown babies.
Other than that, these folks are yesterday's news. Now irrelevant.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
According to the common conservative interpretation of jurisprudence, the law is intended to protect me and restrict everyone else. WTF is this with making me do things I don't want to do, punishing me for doing what I do want to do, or letting other people do things I don't approve of with complete impunity?
BTW, just saw Stuart Varney (the only good American with a thick British accent?) on Faux News wrapping up a segment on the sick economy with "Remember, as things continue to get worse, this is all the fault of the current administration!"
Obama would have to be fu*king superman to destroy the economy this much in a little over 100 days. Nice try Mr. Varney, but I don't think so.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
from the insolence of the unruly...
Going on the theme here, cheney is always warning us that someone is out to harm us. Is he that someone he's talking about?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
"Well.... Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise."
(edited... there were four "surprises".)
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
so shut the fuck up and pay your fucking taxes, asshole...
You're only supposed to say that when other peoples' childrens'
lives are at risk!
Geez; you'll never be a proper conservatard....;)
doesn't this make him a financial terrorist?
he's revolting against the govt by not paying taxes.
how about some of that "not torture" waterboarding for him?
... is 'not torture,' then maybe we can sell this mook on the idea that it's 'not taxes' - we'll call them FREEDOM FEES.
Brilliant.
and not dijon.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
SOP for Repukes, the f*%$! hypocrites. Hell, Republican should be one the synonyms when you look-up the word hypocrite.
Tax Protesters constantly use insane logic to justify why they are not required to pay taxes. They have clogged up the courts to the point where their legal arguments are considered frivolous.
Read these links:
Jon Siegel's Income Tax Protestors Page
The Tax Protesters FAQ
See comment posted at 09:28. Talk about hypocrits....
Matthew 22:15-21
15 Then the Pharisees went and plotted how they might entangle Him in His talk. 16 And they sent to Him their disciples with the Herodians, saying, “Teacher, we know that You are true, and teach the way of God in truth; nor do You care about anyone, for You do not regard the person of men. 17 Tell us, therefore, what do You think? Is it lawful to pay taxes to Caesar, or not?”
18 But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, “Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? 19 Show Me the tax money.”
So they brought Him a denarius.
20 And He said to them, “Whose image and inscription is this?”
21 They said to Him, “Caesar’s.”
And He said to them, “Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”
And if any passage of scripture has been interpreted a multitude of ways, this is one of them.
Yeah the Bible also tells you to follow the government because the government is of the lord.
You know, like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, George W. Bush, etc...
So don't fight against an oppressive government because it is ordained by God.
Yeah, no government ever engages in terrorism upon good people.
See? Hitler was a minister of God.
Whenever the government tells you to do something, you had better do it.
Wait, Bible, you just said I owe the men in government their tribute. Well, thanks for yet another Bible contradiction.
What if, given that Paul is writing as an apostle of the Church, he's referring to the "higher powers" of the Church, and not the government?
It's entirely possible, I believe, that Paul's writings were altered at some point in time to promote obedience to government when he never intended to say any such thing. The book of Acts has "Peter and the other apostles" stating to the Jewish rulers that they'd "obey God rather than man".
At any rate, I give little heed to Romans 13 when somebody attempts to use it to convince me that God expects me to bow down to my government.
In the words of Tim Geithner and all the other Cabinet appointee cheats. "It was an honest mistake, but correctible." Have a bleeding heart like you have had in the past......
Well, why not just compare apples to oranges while you're at it.
Geithner, et al, have not been accused of being "tax cheats" by anyone other than right-wing gum-flappers. Please tell me which of the Cabinet appointees had been prosecuted? Sued? Which one of them did not make good on their obligations? If seem to remember that with the recent Cabinet appointees, they apologized and made good after being informed of their errors on their returns.
Leahy's situation is quite different. Since apparently you didn't actually read the article, it states "over the past 16 years, [Leahy] amassed nearly $150,000 in state and federal tax liens, small claims court judgments and civil suits."
Really not exactly the same situation. And Leahy isn't ignoring just federal taxes, he's ignoring state taxes. He's ignoring court judgements in civil suits. Hell, he's ignoring small claims court judgements.
What a prince among men.
Heh. He probably cuts in line and drives like owns the road (which, btw, is paid for with tax dollars).
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
So if all food was grown and distributed by the government, and all other food was outlawed, would you criticize someone for eating but not paying their taxes? Then your argument is that the only food that exists is there because of taxes so everyone had better pay their taxes or they must starve.
Your argument above is that only the government is capable of building roads and only taxes could ever finance them, so anyone who is against the income tax (which doesn't pay for roads by the way) shouldn't use public roads.
but in such a circular fashion, you may want to go back and clarify. By the way, have you built and nice new roads lately? See, I haven't.
been the American Way?
Should be required to ignore any calls made by this tax evader. He didn't put in on any of these services, he shouldn't be allowed to enjoy them.
Who could guess that a Reslug could be a Tax evader and a teabagging sexual pervert?
Rightards hate everything the United States stands for, including the rule of law and paying their fair share.
tax resister seminars that were very big about 10 years ago at a lot of the fundie churches. Some doctor out of Texas was giving them in Missouri, I believe. All the crazies were flocking to them because his story was that income tax is not in the constitution, so the government can't enforce payment. He forgot to mention the lien thing to a lot of these folks. I think it's called ,"Pay Uncle Now, Or Pay Him More Later."
hang in there, Mr. Sphincter...
That's all I've got, folks.
I'll tell you why this teabagger is a hypocrite; he led a campaign against OBAMA'S tax and budget policy, but in the meantime HE DIDN'T EVEN PAY HIS TAXES UNDER THE BUSH TAX POLICY!!! If he felt taxes were unjust, why didn't he protest then? No, no, no, he waits until a Dem enters the WH THEN he protests. That's hypocrisy.
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