Watch the end of this Saxby Chambliss commercial, and keep a close eye on Sexby's -- I mean Saxby's -- right hand at the end:
He totally goes all second-base on that pre-pubescent girl. And at the very end he looks down at, errrm, something. I don't want to speculate as to what the hell he's doing, but I challenge you not to be weirded out by the creepiness of it.
(Cross posted at BobCesca.com)
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He didn't do anything wrong. But it still is funny. But wrong.
Right, if I were to grope an underaged girls breasts I would be thrown in the slammer before you could say pedophile. Where do you live where this is not considered anything but wrong?
I started reading and loving this site in 2004. But lately it's this kind of journalism. Meaningless bullshit.
And read MOST of the comments from today's posts and MANY of the past two years posts. It's all about name calling and "funny" phrases like re-pig-li-thug and assorted mindless crap.
Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark Snark
It's getting old!
It's the only thing that gets us through the days.
I'm as thrilled that we won in November as everyone else here, but really, this is just a ridiculous post. These kinds of posts really lower the quality of this site, in my opinion. Let's move past this childishness.
This is a sophomoric post. We have more important things to discuss and tackle than to imitate the mean-spiritedness of the right wing. Just because we won the election doesn't mean that we should stoop to the low standards of public discourse that they set over the last 8 years.
100% agree - Ridiculous post and it's not even close to being the first.
Start your own blog.
And, really, there's nothing that says you can't make a meaningful comment without using snarky terms. But if you feel it's that detrimental, just move along.
He's not groping her.(Deleted,Offensive. SiteMonitor)
but it definitely doesn't look like he groped her intentionally - which is why he looked down after he finished talking.
Suggesting to us this was sexual abuse is creepy. I'm disappointed in you, C&L.
nuff said
I despise Saxby, but you're not helping. Go work for Drudge or some other brain-dead sh*t-smearing site. You are tarnishing the good name of Crooks and Liars. Mr. Amato please ban this individual from further posts!
are a whack job.
... as far as body language goes, we'd need a larger sample of Chambliss' behavior. It could very well just be a case of being so focused on his script that he wasn't fully aware of where his hand was, or he routinely hugs family members in that manner. (Yeah, it sounds weak, but disproving it needs that larger sample.)
Still, having worked events in costume, the basic rule is you just don't touch or hug kids.
He really is that clueless.
And so are the folks who edited this ad.
In commercials, nothing is left to chance and multiple takes are routine. I can just imagine someone snickering as they picked this one out of all of the takes available. Or maybe they got back to the editing suite and discovered that the other takes were creepier?
Or the other takes didn't convey the right tone, due to a flub of his lines, or someone else fidgeting in the picture.
I can't get the video - but if it's that weird - why did they use it? Is it possible they didn't notice?
*
... he's after Arnold's title in case he loses - the "grope-nator"
*
N/T
Bwahahhahahaha. Only if they're all blind...
me-oww!
and said nothing - kinda like the cameraman who saw the Turkey butcher in the frame and didn't move the camera....
Groping little girls since before I was born.
Just. . . eewwww.
ya'll are pathetic.
Rothbard > Rothschild
...GOP's all about family values: political pornography, perverts and pedophiles.
This would have only been a big deal in another year or three!
You could technically plead a case that she has no boobs so he didn't think anything of it!
I think it was innocent - but, yes, creepy!
The 30 second fire-side chat logs were just great !
I watched it before reading the comment under the video. I did not notice it until it was pointed out. It is the intent that is important and i can't read what that might be so i will suspend judgement.
of Fred Thompson letting that little kid suck on a diaphragm on TV one time during the primaries
Heeeres Freddy!!!
No... I don't see anything. This is just fearmongering and I expected more of this site :(
I don't think it's fearmongering exactly, but I believe Bob the Blogger is trying too hard to read something into this.
And hey! I hate Republicans worse then Tooth Aches and Watered Wiskey combined, but I don't see what Bob is saying we should be seeing.
You...don't....see...anything. A creepy old man grabs a young girl around her breasts and squeezes them right in front of you. And you....don't....see....ANYTHING. Jesus Christ.
Nothing. Anyone that thinks he is 'groping' her is desperate and just as deranged as the Republicans. This is an old man hugging his prepubescent grand daughter. She doesn't have any boobs - she doesn't blink - its just a hug from Grandpa.
I agree with above posters. This site was awesome because there was very little of this name calling style baloney. There were just videos, and very little personal interpretation. It might have posted the above video and simply said "Saxby Chamblis' Holiday Commercial". Interpretation is up to the reader/viewer. This is just as bad as Fox News showing Obama in a turban that local elders gave him when he visited Kenya and simply running the photo with a caption that says "Is Obama a Muslim? This picture seems to indicate he is." That is exactly what was done here. Its pathetic.
Flag as Republipuke.
What exactly would he be groping? You can't seriously believe he's groping her. I'm sure glad you weren't my parent, lest you never touch me for fear of it being groping. He was hugging her!!!
Ahhh, could it be that he was groping her breasts, which
are pretty clearly evident in the video, right in front of your stupid, fat, moon-shaped face? Now, go away, you silly little republican concern troll.
Really... are you completely nuts? Do you just call everyone who disagrees with you republican? Wow -
He's just an elder, watching the last 36 months of that girls childhood grow out of his hands while he hugs her.
especially on a prepubescent one like that. He needs to keep his hands to himself. His first grab of her chest was explainable, but not the second. Couldn't he have grabbed her around the waist? That's a neutral site.
If Obama had done this to his oldest girl child onstage when he won the election, would it have seemed OK? No. Good male parents are scrupulous in where they place their hands on girl children.
Would Mr. Chambliss approve of the girl's boyfriend touching her chest like that?
And yes, BTW, I was sexually abused as a child. Perverts count on people saying, "Did I really see what I apparently saw? Nah!"
Chambliss's chest grab raises a big red flag. If he's clueless, and that would be very clueless, somebody should pull him aside and tell him about young ladies' "private areas."
And I, too, was sexually abused as a child. Of course the girl doesn't blink...she's been groomed to think this is totally normal-as has her family, apparently. They, and some of you, are inclined to deny the obvious precisely because it's SO obvious. "Oh, no, it can't BE! They wouldn't let him USE that vid if it wasn't totally innocent!" Please. What is the videographer and crew supposed to do...stop the take and insist that Chambliss redo without the grope? The entire entourage was probably dumbfounded and confused by the sheer audacity of it all, just as all of you are. The man is grabbing her boobs. Grow up and see what's in front of your faces.
Well said.
For Chambliss, obviously, there are no holds barred, as demonstrated by his treatment of Max Cleland, and now, in his treatment of his granddaughter's person.
It's worth adding that in the good ol'boy world of the likes of Chambliss, women are still seen as men's possessions, to be treated any way they see fit. The example in their "holiday greetings" is a none-too-subtle marker of it.
don't you think prosecutors or newspapers or someone else would bring him to justice if they really thought it was molestation?
"Don't you think"
No, they clearly don't. They are reacting in a highly emotional irrational manner, seeing abuse where there is none.
She doesn't have boobs!
The pre-pubescent state is precisely what attracts many such victimizers.
That makes it okay?
It's pretty clear in the video that she does. And it wouldn't matter if she didn't!
Notice how he punches the word THIS as he gropes her
"and I sure do approve THIS message"
Yes. It's a damn good thing he didn't say "and I sure do approve THESE"
nada. nothing there.
even SHE doesn't know she's getting boobs yet... or she wouldn't be sitting on grampa's lap.
i promise.
jeez... there's so much REAL creepiness out there...
...you need to have a conversation with a social worker or healthcare professional who works with the "boobless" victims of sexual assault who have had their vaginas and/or rectums opened by their daddies, granddaddies, big-daddies, uncles, etc, etc, & etc.
he is creepy for so many other reasons that this one seems innocent
we don't need to get mean spirited. I think the negative accusations are stupid. Let's not use Rove's playbook. We have the issues on our side.
except the blog poster seeing anything sexual in this.
what's happened to this site?
that Saxby ISN'T feeling the girl up - I can see that, a bumbling grandfatherly hug clumsily ending in a grope and heft (and peek) which is totally innocent. What I CAN'T see is how this ever made it out of the editing room with this scene still in. Was this the BEST take he had? How bad were the ones that DIDN'T make it out the door? Did he end up face planting in her lap? Did he tug salaciously at his zipper while grinning dreamily? Did he shart loudly then wet himself?
Seriously, I agree that there most likely was no attempt at sexual gratification by the morally bankrupt Chamblis but in what universe is it that this was released for public viewing? He DID grope her intentionally or not. There is NO QUESTION that there was cupping and a slight squeezing and as other posters have already mentioned - if it were one of us would there even be a question before a rush to judgement was made?
Unlikely.
I expected more from this site too. I understand wanting to win the race, but character assassination is a low class act. That is the tactics of fear mongers, not responsible citizens. If the ad would have been a democrat in there, and if conservoblogs were saying the same things ya'll did, everyone here would be up in arms. Its ridiculous. We progressives are far better than these lowly Rovian attack tactics.
If you "expect more" than go to some "high-minded" website that doesn't show videos or have colorful stories. It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that what Chambliss did can be categorized as child molestation. Don't come here on your high horse and start accusing people of "Rovian attack tactics." That line is SO fucking overused and misapplied, it's not even funny!!! What's more, it's extremely boring. So, run along now and find something else that pisses you off that you can waste your energy and overused lines on.
lorib you need to settle down. You're wrong. He wasn't groping her. Zilam is right, it's a baseless attack. That's what Rove did, baseless attacks. That's why it's "Rovian."
The problem with this being posted is that a whole lot of people, including yourself, actually believe he's groping her for some sexual gain. If everyone just saw it as a joke, it would be ok, but a lot of people don't.
You can tell very easily if you're acting a little 'out there' or not... This was a public ad, if there was any legitimacy to your claim in the least, newspapers and prosecutors would be talking about it. There's not. Sensible people don't see anything wrong with this.
stay credible. we need sites like this that let saxby have it when he deserves it. don't give up your credibility on cheap shots. and unless, god forbid, there does happen to be something bad going on there, this post is creepy for that girl. i don't know. i think it's innocent. seemed like a clumsy tummy grab to me. and yeah, the editors should have caught that. but cluelessness and dorkiness shouldn't be supersized to incestuous child molestation.
C'mon, this site is better than this. It's something the right would grasp at.
Take it down and find something diff. to dis him on. Geezus
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
Hey Saxby; it's not "Kaynte"; its "Can't".
Really; yotta lern to speak boy.
What is it with Republicans and underage kids?
NOBODY 2012
Why does she refer to him as her "big daddy?"
Double ick!
people call their fathers daddy (pronounced deddy) until death do them part here. i'm not a native so i'm not positive, but maybe grandpas are called "big daddies." really don't know that one. i know grandmas are called "meemaw." whatevs.
and leave that girl alone, sicko. screw you with your double ick. they're either a regular (for southern republicans) family or if she's being abused, don't call her out as icky.
act like you been somewhere.
She'd only call him that if someone told her to, maroon. It's not on her, it's on him.
...in Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. It's a fairly standard child's name for her grandfather. Just as names like meemaw, maymay, mawmaw, et al. are used in the South. I grew up there.
Having said that, there's a lot of sick shit hiding in households just like Saxby's. And god knows he has shown himself capable of sick shit in other ways. If he will touch her like that in front of a camera, how does he touch behind closed doors? You critics of this story can say what you will, but it's NOT A STRETCH. I'm a nurse 21 years and have seen lots and lots that would surprise you. This is NOT a stretch.
It might not be a stretch in the realm of possibilities, but ALL you are doing is assuming. More often than not, when you assume something based on so very little evidence, you either completely wrong or you don't understand extenuating circumstances.
I don't know about the 'groping' - it's his granddaughter and he probably didn't mean anything. The 'Big Daddy' comment creeps me out.
Who are all these new people posting at C&L these days? [I don't know. You, perhaps? Sitemonitor] Is anybody in charge of content? Bob Cesca, huh? Ok then.
You know, when a preacher sees Satan everywhere, it doesn't mean that Satan is actually everywhere; it just means that the preacher is obsessed with Satan.
Anybody who sees this and *actually believes* that this guy is GROPING A MINOR for his TV spot... well that says way more about YOU than it does about even the morons who let this ad go through like that.
The least i'd say about them letting that ad run is that it's unfortunate. [Deleted-Sitemonitor]
Just for the record, so i'm not misunderstanding: Bob Cesca, are you saying that you think that Saxby Chamblis is a child molester? [Deleted. Shut up. Not very nice, is it? Sitemonitor]
[Bob was civil enough to answer your rude post, had he not, I'dve deleted this screed. BTW, speaking of n00bs, while you may have been signed up for 6 weeks, I don't recognize you, and I've been here a few years. Post like this again, and you may find it's your last-Sitemonitor]
You must chill. Sheesh.
>>Just for the record, so i'm not misunderstanding: Bob Cesca, are you saying that you think that Saxby Chamblis is a child molester?
NO! Just creepy. And there's no way any adviser should've let that ad out the door.
Sitemonitor,
If it was the cursing that has offended you then i offer my apology. Sometimes i post like that and i know it can offend the sensibilities of many. I was unaware that C&L would threaten to ban for cursing; this is the first i'd seen of such. On top of that i didn't think it was out of line with the subject matter at hand, including the level and intent of sleaze being put forth by the poster and many of those commenting.
Since you're threatening to ban, i will ask: *was* it the cursing? I can (and will) easily refrain from this in future posts. I would hope that such a threat would have nothing to do with the expression of my opinion on this forum.
My comment was a bit of a knee-jerk reaction because this is the kind of thing i *liked _not_ seeing* in the previous years (yes, years) of hitting C&L in comparison to many other blogs. But i do stand by everything i said, even while i could've done it without the swears.
[Deleted. Off topic and overly long]
[No problem with cursing. Use it all the time myself. It was the tone of the entire post, and personal attacks leveled against the author. You too can look at all 4 or 5 of your posts. We have a commenting policy. And in future, use the email for a message like this-Sitemonitor]
SITEMONITOR - Why do you let lorib go off on everyone who didn't think it was molestation, but edit this guy's post? Granted I don't know what was deleted, so you might very well be right - But I can't imagine it could possibly be any worse than what this lorib has been saying to everyone.
Oops, didn't read your followup asking for this to be in email instead of post - sorry
The legal consenting age in Georgia is Georgia, unless you are related then it is 12.
heard anyone say that the age of consent in Georgia is Georgia. Where did that information come from?
He was giving her a hug and screwed up. He's an old man. It happens. He's got enough to answer for that you don't need to grasp at straws for things to accuse him of. And please don't belittle the real suffering of real survivors by screaming abuse where there isn't any.
the ad was f*cking creepy... Ugh.
"Vote fah mah beeeg daddeeehhh" WTF, is this the long lost sequel to Deliverance?
I think he was just reminding Georgians he had something Max Cleland lost.
bys1955
May have been accidental, maybe not. But you think they'd at least do another take. Too cheap too I guess.
But the lady to his left had her fist up his ass the whole time.
He french kissed the family's German Shepherd.
thanks for that, Roberto. This type of comment is why these postings exist on C&L.
Why in the hell didn't they use a different take? You know, one where he WASN'T groping the child? I doubt Chambliss did this intentionally, but to let this be the ad that makes it on TV is the part I don't get.
The only thing creepy here is some of these comments. Your comment in particular, Judylou, was insulting to all fathers everywhere.
Chambliss has more than enough REAL flaws - there's no need to make crap up about him.
My grandfather was a Republican, and he groped me when I was 4 or 5 years old and showed me sexually explicit magazines. Seeing this man's actions, I cannot believe my eyes how blatantly sexual they were, and how stupid, or just ignorant people say they can't see anything wrong with him grabbing that girl's breasts. Must be a lot of Republicans posting today!
She doesn't have any breasts to grab! Sheesh!
you annoying little gnat.
She's a mammal; she was born with breasts. And pal, paedos don't like big girl titties; they're enamoured of the child's body. It's what MAKES them paedophiles.
me-oww!
Looks like she has more then grandma...
Study the symptoms not the virus...
1) It is creepy
2) It is fair game
3) This site remains excellent
4) get an enema
Agreed.
The fundies may not like it but its understandable he embarrassed them. Like many they want to get rid of the proof, to late its on the web :-P Thanks C&L F-Hufpo...
Study the symptoms not the virus...
He didn't grab her breasts, he hugged her, plain and simple. I think insinuating he is 'groping' says more about the accuser than it does about the accused.
There are so many other things that are plainly wrong in the world, there really is no need to invent them.
If its just a fun post, its very jejune.
If its meant to get a dialogue started then it is a waste of time completely and should've been pre-edited.
Maybe Bob could get a job at Foxnews.
[Maybe YOU could start your own blog, then you would control editorial content-Sitemonitor]
it's didecember. How's that for sophomoric? I'm a sophomoron. Enjoy the show.
I lost.
This is weird, wild stuff, folks! I mean after the initial
gropehug, he moves his hand down a bit as if he knew his hand wasn't supposed to go there.I also found it amusing that it currently has a 1.5 star rating on YouTube. Happy Thanksgiving indeed!
But it was CREEPY!! She is clearly developing to me.
At that age a girl is sometimes too timid (too unsure of herself) to refuse or redirect affection that makes her uncomfortable and some adult relatives insist that it should NOT make the child feel uncomfortable. Hence you get a situation like the one seen in the video.
It's just plain creepy.
C&L maintains its excellence.
on his page. All I did was tell "Big Daddy" not mo' that little girl on his lap.
It is obvious he is looking at his granddaughter at the end. Any honest viewing can tell he is NOT looking at his penis or down her shirt. Whichever you are intimating.
Nor does he grope her. That is silly also and belittles real observation. Please.
My grandma hugs me and her huge boobs are all over may cheast arms and on occasion cheek, it is not sexual, nor is this.
Freud would raise an eyebrow at the protester - I think.
I am no repub troll, but I read C&L 1 or 2nd daily. But this is stupid.
I completely agree, an utterly shameful posting.
you may need to have a talk with grandma. She may have a different "feeling."
That's funny crabby, because my first thought was, is he checking to see whether he's getting a stiffy? But if he is, he's looking in a really weird direction. And I agree that he's not looking down her shirt, more like he probably had his lines taped to her back so that he could remember them, and he probably glanced at them again to see if he said them correctly. That's what it looked like to me.
The whole, fireside, smiling gramps and kids is circa 1960 and the Donna Reed show and about as interesting and informative as having a beer with the criminal Dubya. Probably plays well in Dobsonville and Swaggarttown, though.
"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.
The affection police are out in force. Could it be that the only people who thought this was inappropriate are themselves out policing the expression of their secret repressed desires and dressing it up in sanctimonium. That explanation seems about as valid as the one that sees this as molestation. Get a life, and put something on that I wouldn't read in the left version of the NY Post.
I saw palin with saxby yesterday and today I saw mcsame with him and all I could think of was birds of a feather flock together.
Or what a pack of losers!
Bob, at the last point you state you don't want to speculate but I cannot see anything else but speculate from this article. First thing, the subject title is very FOXnews-y if I ever saw one.
I don't regard this hand gesture as a gaffe. I don't know who she is but I expect she's a grandchild. Of course, the whole thing looks a bit awkward but that has everything to do with the climate we live in. Everything that's not standard behaviour is bound to be suspect.
I just think there's nothing much going on.
Thanks for the past 2 years.
Maybe when you start doing some actual investigation and writing decent articles rather than picking the corpse of the republican party I'll subscribe again.
This post was pathetic. The DOW dropped 700 points today... where's the posts about something real, instead of this disgusting smear?
Buh-bye
Just because [Deleted. You don't have to be one yourself. I thought you were leaving-Sitemonitor] complete fucking asshole.
[Update. Jake, I just helped you not come back. Bye-Sitemonitor]
Be sure to be extra offensive and stoop down to a lot of name-calling before you leave, there, buddy boy! Hey, are you gone yet? Yeah, I didn't think so.
He was a very angry man, but certainly holier than me.
'Goodbye DU, I'm never coming back' posts of ought five.
Let's see a guy massages the chest of his granddaughter and its a smear to point it out.
Why don't you self righteous types start your own blogs and not post this story. Then you can feel all virtuous and shit.
For all those leaving, don't let the door hit ya on the arse...
me-oww!
You will be back I know. It's OK though, I know the truth hurts and just because Sexby does it, I know you don't?
I just changed my homepage from rawstory to C&L for their variety, fair moderation and honesty.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
....did you expect him NOT to be banging his family? C'mon now!
What did you know? The world was waiting just for you.
Since when is it "creepy" to hug your own grandchild?
It's not him that is sick, it's a society that views physical affection between familiy members as suspicious and creepy. This post was so depressing. I'm very disappointed in C&L.
He didn't hug her. He straight up groped her breasts. Watch the video again. Only this time watch the whole thing.
Since when do 8-year-olds have breasts?
Since birth, if they're mammals. Now, whether or not the breast buds have started to swell depends upon hormonal changes, which have been occurring in younger and younger girls, due in part to better diets and environmental changes. And pedophiles are into the flat chest thing. Pedophiles are all about the pre-pubescent kid. Don't like breasts. That's WHY they're pedophiles. Which I'm not saying Chambliss is. He's a guy who gave his granddaughter a chest massage.
me-oww!
First of all: Pedant. ;-)
Second, that's not a freaking "chest massage". He's got his arm around his grandchild. He's pulling her closer to show affection when she speaks nicely about him. That's a hug, and only a very perverted person could see it as anything else.
that inference is all yours, sweet cheeks :).
me-oww!
Just as some commenters see nothing wrong with 'physical affection between family members,' I'd like to opine that a hug is not the same as wrapping a hand around a young girl from behind and cupping her developing breasts.
If that's normal, at what point would Grandpa Saxby's behavior be considered inappropriate?
Have we not gotten past the red state/blue state mentality?
Sackless Chambliss brutally smeared an ACTUAL war hero who left limbs on the battlefield as not being patriotic enough to serve in government compared to General Major chickenhawk 1st class Chambliss and WE are being divisive? We point out that his APPROVED COMMERCIAL has a shot of him doing a snatch and grab of his grandchilds prepubescent chest and WE are out of bounds?
Here's a little Red state/Blue state for ya - NOTHING IS OUT OF BOUNDS WHEN ATTACKING MORALLY DEFECTIVE REPUBLICAN ASSHATS! NOTHING!!!
They set the rules of the game, now it's time to wipe the board with them.
"NOTHING IS OUT OF BOUNDS WHEN ATTACKING MORALLY DEFECTIVE REPUBLICAN ASSHATS! NOTHING!!!" The things is people on the left don't have to make up stuff or insinuate things that may or may not be there. Unlike the right we actually have the facts on our side. So, not only from a moral stand point but also from a long term practical stand point, it is a better strategy to stick to the truth. When we start inventing things, or in this case taking something that is probably innocent and try to make something sinister out of it, we feed right into the right wing narrative that everybody lies and cheats.
ad or not. The problem I have is with the people who decided that this shot was the best of the bunch. i question their decision because i'm a freakin' genius and they aren't.
Bruce C Johnson
i'm glad to see so many people posting this opinion. i'd hope you guys would just take the original posting down. i certainly agree that his campaign was pretty stupid to put this add on tv (or the internet), but i think crooks and liars making even a jokey insinuation of molestation is pretty fucking slimy. this is the kind of thing that'll spread on the internet, and eventually this poor kid is going to be harrassed at school about it. whether or not you agree with his politics, this is worse than juvinile. grow the hell up and take the video down.
Awwww, why don't all you concern trolls just go to another fucking site!!!! This thing is posted all over the goddamn Internet. Just Google it, and it's everywhere. Get a FUCKING LIFE, and GROW UP, YOURSELVES, you [Deleted. Abusive-Sitemonitor]!!!! We shouldn't have to put up with the likes of you on progressive websites!!!
[If you have a problem with the monitoring, put it in an email. Trouble is, most of you WATBs who are whining have no idea what the rules are, nor did you see the comments or emails that got people banned. People are being banned here not for disagreeing; if you weren't so disingenuous as to suggest this, perhaps you'd see loads of disagreement standing on this and every other thread on this site. People are being banned for extreme rudeness, nothing else. Now. If you cannot leave lorib alone, you will be banned. But it'll have nothing to do with however you feel about anything addressed on the C&L board-Sitemonitor]
Is there an anti-stalking law here? I seem to have a creepy little troll attached to me that I can't seem to shake off! ;)
Bob Cesca, thanks a whole hell of a lot for bringing this blog to the level of a mindless mob of high school boys. An unfortunate video by a political enemy that should have been well left alone. Think about "that pre-pubescent girl". Think goddammit.
Why so much dissent from the supposed "progressive" front? The clip is comically uncomfortable -- a punch line in itself. All this invocation in the comments of Hannity and Rove and how we (and C&L) are supposed to be above all this type of sniping is precisely why we're in this mess. In other words, it seems that too many lack the balls to counterstrike when opportunity to do so clearly presents itself, whether for comical relief or not.
I'm all for being more erudite, classier and "above-all-that" when it comes to rhetoric-check, but at the end of the day I'd rather win. Gutlessness doesn't work. It's time to fight back and fight back with equal bluntness. Winning requires balls. Winning requires a very big stick that somebody is willing to wield with pride.
If you don’t have the balls and can’t stomach the logic, step back and let others do the job you intend to be compensated for.
comic relief on a political site insinuating child molestation better be absolutely crystal clear it's comic relief. I agree, on the daily show this would have probably been funny... Only because Stewart would keep it in a ridiculous context and there wouldn't be a hint of doubt it was purely sophmoric gotcha humor. However, there's quite a few posters who don't think it's a joke and that's purely to do with the way it was posted. I almost think the poster didn't think it was a joke either. You can't do that... too many people aren't getting it.
He is embracing that young girl not doing anything sexual. Pretty disgusting to suggest anything else. News Flash - it is okay to touch your family members out of genuine love.
Makes me mad at CL. Cheap shot city.
Okay to touch them where? Anywhere? It's okay for an adult male to "hug" a pubescent or nearly pubescent girl's breast (even without a boob, it's still a breast) with his hand? How do you know what he's doing, dono? Can you "just tell"? Do you do a lot of diagnoses by video?
its an embrace, thats all. What world do we live in where Grandpa cannot hold his grandchild?
to smash his hands all over the kid's mammary area, give her a lingering massage, like Chambliss did.
me-oww!
dono ya say "
He is embracing that young girl not doing anything sexual. Pretty disgusting to suggest anything else. News Flash - it is okay to touch your family members out of genuine love.
Makes me mad at CL. Cheap shot city."
Please tell me why you think it is a "Cheap shot" if it's OK? I think they call that a {Freudian slip) see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip
Study the symptoms not the virus...
If someone punches a guy in the back of the head, while he wasn't looking, and says "That's for molesting my kid!", it's a cheap shot because it's a blind sided attack. The phrase "cheap shot" says nothing about guilt or innocence.
You like random definitions?
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cheap%20shot
Look it up.
Have you ever heard of a thing called Occam's razor, (sometimes spelled Ockham's razor) "All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best.". If ya get a chance look it up. [Your] "example" does indeed describe what many believe to be a cheap shot. Is that what happened? I know many minds often contrive ways to support their beliefs, when in reality it's quite simple and (honestly) should be kept that way.
The poster implied that, "He is embracing that young girl not doing anything sexual." and then believes it was a cheap shot, right?
JohnF, why do you think, the poster thought,
[IT WAS A CHEAP SHOT]?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Please tell me this was doctored. I did NOT just see that. Please tell me that was not real, Bob...
JP
http://giveusthisdayourdailtydread.blogspot.com
... that he was feeling up this little girl in a commercial that he knew was going to be seen by the entire State of Georgia. I realize the man is a cretin and a despicable human being, but there is no indication in this video that he's THAT creepy.
I do however, question the intelligence of his packagers and handlers in not editing out that particular picture simply because anyone with half a brain should have known what the reaction was going to be.
Ok, it looks like this has started a bit of a flame war here on C&L. There does seems to be a bunch of names posting here that I have never seen before and a lot of them just may be flown in trolls. But, in all honesty this is a ridiculous post. I mean, come on, sure Saxby Chambliss is a republican creep, but using this video to hint at pedophilia is just stupid. I understand the point of the post was to be humorous, but to add a caveat at the end challenging one to not be weirded out by it says more about the poster than it does about Chambliss. I don't want this site to become exactly like Fox News or some of the other more ridiculous right-wing sites out there that post shit like "Did Obama just give McCain the finger?!" when any idiot could see it was a nose scratch. This post is EXACTLY in that league.
...oh and another point. Doesn't this video say that this is the Chambliss family? I'm going out on a limb here and assuming that "little girl" may be his granddaughter. Some of you are talking about her like she's just some stage prop, not someone he's known since she's been pooping in her diapers. Once again, some of the comments here say more about the posters than it does Chambliss, and that is what's starting to creep me out.
Is it?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
what is going on? i'm not sure why i visit anymore.
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