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A Grand Bargain In Afghanistan?

While the presidential candidates try to outdo each other on hawkishness on their Afghanistan/Pakistan policies and violence rises even further, the military seem to be the ones really running U.S. foreign policy in the region. And they're looking for a Grand Bargain.

This week's Sixty Minutes has eye-opening footage from a forward operating base in eastern Afghanistan, which includes up-close combat with Taliban militants.

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The footage underscores what a recent draft of a National Intelligence Estimate called Afghanistan's "downward spiral", with a 30 percent increase in attacks in the last year.

These soldiers had not come this close to their enemy in Afghanistan before - close enough to lob hand grenades. Staff Sgt. Jake Schlereth had to crawl into a cornfield in pursuit. "You couldn't see [the enemy]…and…I had to get down on the ground and look and see if they were down there…you knew they were in there," he tells Logan.

At least twelve enemy fighters were killed in the skirmish and one U.S. soldier was wounded. The soldiers found a camera left behind by the enemy that contained images of at least 50 heavily armed fighters, showing details of their training and actual attacks. But it also showed enemy surveillance of U.S. soldiers on patrol. Says Capt. Thomas Kilbride, who leads such patrols, "This is showing a [U.S.] unit driving. I don't know if this is us or not." Does he think he and his men are being watched every time they go on patrol? "Oh, yeah," he says.

The images on the camera prove the enemy is better armed and organized. One of the men killed was carrying an identification card issued across the border in Pakistan. The U.S. military plans more fighting ahead in the winter months, when violence is usually less. "I'm here to predict this winter will be the most violent winter so far," says Gen. Schlosser.

But with experts saying that an Iraq-style Surge and Awakening, as advocated by John McCain, won't work among the Pushtun tribes who are implacably hostile to outsiders and occupiers - and likewise saying that Obama's more hawkish policy on Pakistan is a step too far that would touch off a larger regional conflict - General David Petraeus has put together a team of advisors who are saying the the best bet is to make a deal with the Taliban to return them to some sort of respectability as long as they give up Al Qaeda in the process. One of those advisers, Pakistani analyst Ahmed Rashid, has joined with New York University Prof. Barnett Rubin to write an essay entitled "From Great Game to Grand Bargain: Ending Chaos in Afghanistan and Pakistan" published this week in the influential 'Foreign Affairs' journal. Jim Lobe at IPS News writes:

Both Obama and McCain have called for increases in U.S. and NATO troop strength, and President George W. Bush currently intends to send 8,000 more U.S. troops to join the 34,000 who are already there before he leaves office. The NATO commander in Afghanistan, U.S. Gen. David McKiernan, who commands a total of nearly 70,000 troops, said last week he will need yet another 15,000 more next year.

But while those forces may help keep the lid on, they cannot defeat the Taliban, particularly so long as their Pakistani allies provide a safe haven, according to Rashid and Rubin, whose article criticises the Bush administration’s "war-on-terror" rhetoric that "thwarts sound strategic thinking by assimilating opponents into a homogenous ‘terrorist’ enemy."

"(The) United States must redefine its counterterrorist goals," they argue. "It should seek to separate those Islamist movements with local or national objectives from those that, like al Qaeda, seek to attack the United States or its allies directly – instead of lumping them all together." Those willing to sever ties with al Qaeda should be engaged, according to the authors.

"...An agreement in principle to prohibit the use of Afghan (or Pakistani) territory for international terrorism, plus an agreement from the United States and NATO that such a guarantee could be sufficient to end their hostile military action, could constitute a framework for negotiation. Any agreement in which the Taliban or other insurgents disavowed al Qaeda would constitute a strategic defeat for al Qaeda," according to the two authors.

It's almost certainly a good idea. Bob Gates has said that "There has to be ultimately, and I’ll underscore ultimately, reconciliation as part of a political outcome to this. That’s ultimately the exit strategy for all of us," and I've agreed with that concept for years. But one would think the State Dept. under the next President, rather than Petraeus, in the role of regional proconsul, should be doing the running.

However, Rashid and Rubin want to take it a step further - and that's where I think their plan becomes highly problemmatic.

At the same time, Washington and its allies should pursue a "high-level diplomatic initiative designed to build genuine consensus on the goal of achieving Afghan stability by addressing the legitimate sources of Pakistan’s insecurity...," they argue.

They call for the UN Security Council to establish of a contact group consisting of its five permanent members, and possibly NATO and Saudi Arabia, to promote dialogue between India and Pakistan on Afghanistan and Kashmir, and between Pakistan and Afghanistan on delineating their border with the central aim of "assur(ing) Pakistan that the international community is committed to its territorial integrity." The group should also provide security assurances to Russia and Iran about U.S. NATO intentions and to promote regional economic integration and development.

The problem is that Pakistan isn't only concerned with its own territorial integrity. Pakistan's foreign policy has always been run by the Pakistani military, primarily aimed at India and always seen the use of proxy terror groups as a way to counter the assymetric balance of conventional forces. The Pakistani military has always had one primary mission - India. One of its primary objectives has been to bring Afghanistan into its own orbit and deny India influence there. While India must worry about the other regional power, China, Pakistan has always co-operated with China both militarily and politically on the local stage - the two nations develop fighter jets together, exercize together, vote together in local forums. India was the only reason why Pakistan developed a nuclear arsenal (India worried about Pakistan and China) and you can be sure that every nuclear weapon in Pakistan's inventory is assigned to an Indian target and to no other - something that it is doubtful is the case for India's weapons.

Throughout their short history as seperate nations - which has included four outright wars - India and Pakistan have been burdened by extremists who define themselves in terms of opposition to their neighbour and in supremacist religious rhetoric. Both have always had to cope with militant portions of their own military and political spectrums who define themselves in terms of a perceived military threat from the other nation. In India's case, although offtimes these factions have gained ascendancy, the democratic process has kept their influence from being total. Pakistan, on the other hand, has been a military dictatorship more often than it has been even slightly democratic and, when a democracy, was constantly threatened by coups from one of its two militant factions - the religious and military extremists. Accordingly, the military has made a de facto trade off with the Islamists. The military runs the nation and the Islamists use it as a safe base to preach, recruit and stage their worldwide Jihad. Neither rocks the other's boat all that much and so a balance of power has evolved, teetering on a precipice of civil war which spills over locally from time to time. Rashid and Rubin's plan doesn't provide an incentive to either group to change that equation.

Instead, as so often in the past, India should offer concessions to a nation which has talked the talk far more often than it has walked the walk. There is no mention anywhere of curtailling Pakistan's intelligence agency, the ISI, and its alleged sponsoring of terror groups in Kashmir, Afghanistan and India. No mention of the tens of thousands of Taliban and Al Qaida trained militants in Pakistan (Jane's in 2004 estimated 20,000 such in Karachi alone). No mention of Pakistan's inability (reluctance) to capture Osama bin Laden or Mullah Omar - and other major terror/crime figures such as Dahwood Ibrahim - who are certainly hiding on their territory.

It's a plan the Pakistanis will love - because it enables them to keep on doing what they've been doing, playing the West for all they are worth while asking concessions from their main rivals. It's highly unlikely that the Indians or anyone else in the region will want to play ball just to give the U.S. cover as it makes for an exit.

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CMINCA's picture

Afghanistan, the forgotten war.

RantingTommy's picture

Such a huge, bloody, horrible mistake.

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CMINCA's picture
Yes

A stategic clusterfu**

Nader_Gavel_Kucinich's picture

Yep elections matter.

Think we should not be in Afghanistan?

Why would that make you vote for Obama? He want's to take the troops from Iraq and send them to Afghanistan.

liberal traitor's picture
but

but I thought we already won there? I thought it was essentially over? Isn't that what we were told? It's not over then? We didn't win already?

Liberal AND Proud's picture

President Obama will be criticised for the Afghan debacle, because Pretzelnit Bush took his eye off the ball.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

Artist formerly known as gempei's picture

have been saying there is no military solution for Afghanistan, only political ones. And this makes sense especially in a region notorious for defeating foreign forces. President Obama will need to seriously consider this, since Bush can't and McCain won't.

Blue Lensman's picture

Nice job, Cernig (if that's your REAL name ;)

Steve Hynd's picture

If that's your real name. Or even if it's Kimball Kinnison :-)

My nom-de-blog is a bad, mildly obscene, pun in 2 dead languages. It's one I've had a long time and has something to do with the Newshoggers logo. That's all I'm willing to say...

Regards, C

PS: the Bush administration just handed a license to a firm which is entirely owned by the Pakistani military to make Hummvees that the Bush administration will then buy for US troops in Afghanistan.

D'you think that maybe sends the wrong message?

Kathleen's picture

I had the privilege of getting to know a young man (34) who was from Afghanistan who was studying here in the states on a Fulbright for the last three years, he returned this summer. He was getting his masters in Communications and is now in the cabinet of President Karzi. He would talk with his very large family in Afghanistan every week. They would share with him that the Taliban was regaining power after having been on the run for the year after the U.S. invasion. His father a retired Brigadier General who fought against the Russians kept asking “does the Bush administration want to lose here, why have they abandoned the Afghani people again?” This young man and I discussed issues about the U.s. and Afghanistan for hundreds of hours. I learned so much about his country his family and the history of Afghanistan. So many have suffered so much and so long in that country.

Several things that he shared that were a surprise for me was that the Afghani government had early on had asked the Bush administration for PROOF, HARD EVIDENCE that would confirm that Osama Bin Laden had been involved in 9/11. There was never NEVER any hard evidence sent or confirmed having to do with this claim.

The other insight was that the majority of Afghani people consider the U.S. presence in their country as an OCCUPATION and they are not happy about it.

Another recommendation that he shared was that the only way to deal with the Taliban (especially since they had regained power over the last seven years)was to be INCLUSIVE of the less radical and violent Taliban members.

He also made me aware of that there are large deposits of uranium in Afghanistan.

A few more links for recent stories about Afghanistan
Afghan NGOs are teaching human rights and Islamic law along with calls to end the war with a national peace jirga.

Kabul, Afghanistan - In a musty room near the edge of town, a group of bearded men sit on the floor and heatedly discuss strategy. The men are in the planning stages of an event that they hope will impact Afghan politics - a peace jirga, or assembly, that will agitate for the end of the war between the Taliban and Afghan government by asking the two sides to come to a settlement.

http://www.truthout.org/102008M

30 People Beheaded in Afghanistan
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10.....ia/…

http://www.reuters.com/article.....dUS…
NATO’s political will “wavering” in Afghanistan
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That Mick Piobr's picture

NEWSFLASH: That ain't all that the military is running.

Judging by the size of the military budget, this government taxes working people to the benefit of military contract corporations and little else.

Dieboldizing Johnny Clueless and Little Miss Hitler into office is merely a formality.

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woody's picture

which is SO MUCH WORSE than getting blown apart by High Explosive ordnance delivered by drones flown remotely by video-gme specialists in Las Vegas and Pasadena...

tyree's picture

i have been saying for months on here my objections to obama is hes drinking the bush koolaid, afganistans chenys boogyman, the war on terrors bullcrap, it cant be won, afganistan is a fools game, and obamas playing the game, it should be ended before it becomes the new iraq, the longer we stay there the more people from that region will join in the fight againt us, body bags will fill up faster then a one holer outhouse at a country church, then whos going to be held responsible for the graveyards filling up with our kids in the military, ? barack obama , and the democrats who cant change his mind , go ahead and vote for obama but if he wins make sure you let him know we want every swinging dick from over there brought home and he gets the warmongers under control!

Chopvac's picture

There's one historical truth when it comes to invasions and occupations: you can only win committing genocide be eradicating the people and/or their cultural identity. No one has ever occupied and controlled a foreign country indefinitely, or even 100 years.

The US trying to occupy Afghanistan is like trying to hold a cornfield while you're in it. You can only control the people in it from outside, *if* they leave, or by annihilating them (which is a very noticeable war crime). The US is going to leave, it's just a matter of when and how.

violimo's picture

Eventually there will have to be a draw down because the allies don't want to be in it for the long haul. As long as US interests are met there, then it will be occupied by the US. But trying to defeat the Taliban is like trying to eradicate malaria, it doesn't ever quite go away. If it looks like Vietnam, smells like it, then it probably is.

CMINCA's picture

I cannot believe this thread has only 18 posts. This is such a vitally critical issue to this country and to the world.

We need to remember that we have been in Afghanistan for 7 years, that it is the forgotten war, that things have gotten much worse and only promise to continue to worsen.

A travesty that this gets such slight attention on this blog. I'm really astonished.

roger's picture

The U.S. military needs to be pulled from Afghanistan yesterday. Obama is shilling for votes as he panders to special interest in the military industrial complex and needs to begin speaking the truth.

The U.S.S.R. model shows what a failure we will be in for in terms of wasted time, money, and lives if we continue to place troops in a country with no objective other than to protect the opium trade.

It's a disgrace.

will b dunne's picture

i saw the 60 min. piece...hotty "journalist"...kowtowing to the authority figure who says,"i'm a professional soldier and i"...all the while sitting there with a smirk that proclaims his theatrics. shitfire folks! whadoowee have here? talk about a handy cam? this little doosie will do wonders for the propaganda we're catapulting.

this is our master's media wagging the dog to run home the message,complete with the first graphic footage we've seen in eight years,weeks before the election of our times...there's a war goin' on alright,on us.

we've been had again by cbs.

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CMINCA's picture

Lara Logan is a serious journalist, not a Fox News airheaded hack.

bodhisoma's picture

The link appears to be down, here's a direct link to the story and video.

Sun Tzu's picture

Are there really viable strategic options in Afghanistan? One strategist poses two: Strategic Options: The West and Afghanistan. Which option would Sun Tzu pursue?

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