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One of the key points President Obama made in his back-and-forth with House Republicans seems to be really sticking in the craw of the right-wing pundit class:

Obama: I mean, the fact of the matter is that many of you, if you voted with the administration on something, are politically vulnerable in your home base, in your own party. You've given yourselves very little room to work in a bipartisan fashion, because what you've been telling your constituents is. 'This guy's doin' all kinds of crazy stuff that's going to destroy America!'

Bill Kristol, yesterday on Fox News Sunday:

Kristol: First of all, I agree with the president. I think he's been doing all kinds of crazy stuff that risks destroying America. But the good news is, a lot of it's been stopped.

Of course, he's not actually agreeing with the President -- but he certainly is proving his point, isn't he?

Indeed, it points up that it isn't just Republican congressmen telling their constituents that Obama is a radical black Marxist/fascist/nihilist out to destroy America. It's the entire right-wing pundit class -- most of all, nearly the entirety of Fox News and its talkers.

If anything, the congresscritters are just taking their cues from Fox and aping the talking points that flow out of the fetid imaginations of people like Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity and Bill Kristol.

And as long as that's the case, well, we wish the president lotsa luck in getting Republican Congressmen to behave any differently.

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ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Here's what krystalnacht reminds me of:

Macbeth: Act 2, Scene 3

DONALBAIN
138 To Ireland, I; our separated fortune
139 Shall keep us both the safer. Where we are,
140 There's daggers in men's smiles: the near in blood,
141 The nearer bloody


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Truthseeker12's picture

is destroying the country. That scumbag can not sell us out to the bankers fast enough. Obama has the balls to give the bankers over $28 TRILLION and then freeze spending on the rest of us,

Milquetoast's picture

Bill Kristol's examples of Obama's destructive policies...

...are different than ours!

(exept about closing guantanamo)


audit-prosecute-incarcerate

docb's picture

who cares what lies they are telling now?

PYTHONCHARLY's picture

Our country got these problems from the republicans

mudshark's picture

Nothing?
C'mon, tell us what you would have done to stave off the pending economic disaster. Surely you have some ideas. You can't be spewing that bs without having some ideas on how to fix this mess. A mess that was there when he took office I might add. So, Let's hear it!


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Truthseeker12's picture

Obama has drained the treasury and diluted the money supply to prop up these vampire banks without so much as a thread attached. Obama is the worst President this country has ever had and I used to say that about GW.

mudshark's picture

Some solutions from you.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

mudshark's picture

crickets chirping...........................


What is your conceptual, continuity?

mudshark's picture

chirping non stop now.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

flav1's picture

Never had to actually accomplish anything.....or be correct about anything
Collects wingnut welfare due to who his Daddy was.
Where have we seen this movie before?
Overpriviledged screw up gets away with it because of his Daddy.

BobD's picture

Are you insinuating that HE might be the GOP standard bearer in 2012! He can't possibly run against Sarah ;)

savannah43's picture

That is all he is.

God I hate this bastard.

bad_robbie's picture

'This guy's doin' all kinds of crazy stuff that's going to destroy America!'

He's talkin' 'bout the pres'dent like that in times of war like this, well that's treason isn't it?

I sure liked him better when he hosted the Oscars.

BigIslandDave's picture

... I think you're mistaken. It was Bush and Cheney and the rest of their multi-tentacled crime syndicate/family who were destroying America.

BID

I'm not saying that someone should kick his ass, but I do believe it needs some thought.

project's picture

To get to kick his ass!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

PYTHONCHARLY's picture

a severe mental illness, why would you vote against

your own self interest even when doing so will harm

you children and grandchildren

I'm sure Little Billy got his ass kicked once or twice as a kid, but having the car service drive him from his Upper East Side Manhattan home to the prep school probably kept it to a minimum.

I believe guys like Billy , Karl Rove and the rest of their ilk are taking revenge on America for the beatings and bullying they took as as kids....
Rove says he was beat up by a girl at one point.

MountainMan23's picture

By Thomas Geoghegan, The Nation, August 12, 2009:

The Case for Busting the Filibuster

I know it seems hopeless. But so did knocking out slavery when the abolitionists first started, or segregation, when civil rights activists began their struggle against Jim Crow. It's a fair enough analogy, since the filibuster is one of the last remnants of racist politics in America: it was a parliamentary tactic used by the Calhounians to make extra certain slavery would stay around.

We should adopt the strategy of the antislavery movement, which in the early stages had three approaches:

1. The laying of petitions on the House. Forgive the archaic legal phrase: I mean petitions to Congress, both houses. In the era of John Quincy Adams--in case you missed the Steven Spielberg movie--there would be mass petitions, with Adams and others reading them on the House floor to the howls of the Southerners. Every group busted by a filibuster should lay on a petition. And start with the House, which is the only place it has a chance of being read.

2. Resolutions by the House, as a warm-up for the Senate. Such resolutions might read: "Resolved, that Congress has no authority to require supermajorities in any chamber except as authorized by the Constitution." Aren't House chairs tired of seeing their bills cast into black holes by senators whose names they never even know?

3. Evangelizing. The most effective tactic in the fight against slavery was the preaching of New England clergy against it. We can start in our battle against the filibuster by enlisting faculty at New England colleges to hold teach-ins. Teach the kids why "Yes, we can" can't happen with the current Senate rules.

By the way, the abolitionists knew the Senate was their enemy, just as it is our enemy today. Let's hope these tactics work for us in getting rid of this last vestige of slavery: Senate Rule 22. What's painful is that we have to cross some of our most sainted senators. But unless we decide to just give up on the Republic, there's no way out. To save the Obama presidency, we may have to fight our heroes.

Wikipedia: Filibuster

The term filibuster was first used in 1851. It was derived from the Spanish filibustero meaning pirate or freebooter. This term had evolved from the French word flibustier, which itself evolved from the Dutch vrijbuiter (freebooter). This term was applied at the time to American adventurers, mostly from Southern states, who sought to overthrow the governments of Central American states, and was transferred to the users of the filibuster, seen as a tactic for pirating or hijacking debate.


Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!

Ya mean like invading and occupying a country

In retaliation for an attack

They had nothing to do with?

You betcha...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

gonf's picture

This one especially.


Is it the 21st century yet?

project's picture

Or if we actually had a legal system!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

Valerie's picture
^^

It must be nice to be able to talk out of your ass and get paid for it.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Diabolus est Deus Inversus

BaScOmBe's picture

Obama started two wars
fed the rich and drained the economy
ignored a drowning city
deposed the rightful president of haiti
gave nukes to india for melons
spent a third of his presidency on vacation


________________
common sense matters as much as truth

flav1's picture

Don't forget the time Obama shot his friend in the face and ignored those "determined to attack America" warnings

Bill Kristal has P.T.S. - POX Theatre Syndrome. He is beyond repair.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

You don't want to see wee willy krystalnacht fixed?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

oldretire's picture
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ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Are there non-rascist Nazis?

And you're calling Obama a Nazi?

You're name wouldn't be glen beck would it?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

project's picture

oldretire.

The rest of us see crossing the road and other potentially dangerous things like that, but you’ve envisioned life as a lethal game of a completely different magnitude. Remind me to get you a sense of perspective for your birthday. Now, which patriotic GOP-er will step up and volunteer for their part in making the USA safer?
Kistol is that your hand I see raised???

It reminds me of Pink Floyd's 'Us and them' song. It's again the same tale: give your population an enemy and your population wont ask questions on other subjects and we will make a shit load of money....

Martin Luther King Jr., once said: "We must learn to live together as brothers, or perish together as fools."


LuLu

sixandseveneights's picture

"This guy's doin' all kinds of crazy stuff that's going to destroy America!'

Yea, just like Clinton did. Good thing Bush came along and left a legacy of peace and prosperity.

RickMassimo's picture

No one ever asks that. Too bad - the deer-in-the-headlights look Kristol et al would give in reply would be worth a year's cable bill.

Then Billy went on to blame Holder for every minute part of the Christmas underware bomber. According to Billy, Holder was the major failure from the time the kid boarded the plane until the moment his pee wee caught on fire. It was such a bizzare statement that Billy himself couldn't help but smile when he said it.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

surgethis's picture

These comments are designed specifically to damage the president. Especially as they are outright distortions. I don't understand why some of these perverts have not been arrested and charged with Sedition. It's one thing to disagree with the president ... but Krystal is accusing the president of something patently false. Sedition. I hate these filthy bastards who have no real credibility.

Bill and POX Terror Theatre is also raising the level of terror amongst the fearful Republicans. That's really potentially harmful.

I don't have the same fears about the Democrats getting wrapped up in Al Queda's master plans, that i do about the Republicans getting sucked in. The Republicans appear to be easily influenced by and inflicted by terrorism and that's a security problem.

The Republican has a place at the table but not at the risk of security of the nation.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

flav1's picture

Not only does Fox strive to undermine the President....
they seem to do so almost 24/7 around the clock.

It seems like almost EVERY issue is framed by an attack on the President of the United States.

It's beyond propaganda. It's heading into insanity.
And Fox isn't even owned by an American.
Murdoch will always be an Australian to me.
I don't consider him an American because he sure doesn't have America's interest at heart.
He's a megalomaniac who only cares about himself.

CFAmick's picture

...right?

Torn-Q's picture

Nothing he said had anything to do with Obama or anything else. But what do you expect from a signatory of the PNAC document?

stewartm0205's picture

He makes statements and doesn't justify it. Its basically calling someone names. Kristol can't call the president the "N" word so he calls him everything else but he really, really would prefer the "N" name.

mudshark's picture

GRAMM'S STATEMENT AT SIGNING CEREMONY
FOR GRAMM-LEACH-BLILEY ACT

Sen. Phil Gramm, chairman of the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs, made the following statement today in a ceremony at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, where President Clinton signed the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act into law:

"The world changes, and Congress and the laws have to change with it.

"Abraham Lincoln used to like to use the analogy that old and outmoded laws need to be changed because it made about as much sense to continue to impose them on people as it did to ask a man to wear the same clothes he did when he was a child.

"In the 1930s, at the trough of the Depression, when Glass-Steagall became law, it was believed that government was the answer. It was believed that stability and growth came from government overriding the functioning of free markets.

"We are here today to repeal Glass-Steagall because we have learned that government is not the answer. We have learned that freedom and competition are the answers. We have learned that we promote economic growth and we promote stability by having competition and freedom.

"I am proud to be here because this is an important bill; it is a deregulatory bill. I believe that that is the wave of the future, and I am awfully proud to have been a part of making it a reality."

Sound familiar?


What is your conceptual, continuity?

ferk berfel's picture

nt

karlo5's picture

I don't think this asshole meant the United States, because he doesn't give a damn about this country. He was accually referring to his mother land israel.

bmolloy124's picture

First of all let's call it what it is (or isn't). Fox "News" is not a "News" program. It's got sponsors that keep it going financially, yes. There is a place for it, certainly. People watch it and like it. It pays for itself commercially. But, it's not a "news" show, forum or format.

That the President is trying to "reach out" to Republicans can never be used against him in the long run---history will tell--.. But in the short run, attempting to make bipartisan inroads or strides, is proving (for Obama and the country) counterproductive at best for the President and those who voted for him.

Let's hope commercial entertainment calling itself "news" doesn't prevail to an extent that democracy is compromised. Let's keep our "crap detectors" on... please read further at: www.neonewspub.com

How about the recent brouhaha regarding Acorn and Prostitution?! Fox News, yet again, airs a story as news which it has a hand in creating!! Then, the "film maker" with an agenda who captures the "systemic corruption" of Acorn (Prostitute and Pimp are treated as legitimate applicants..)gets busted for posing as a telephone repairman at a democratic senator's office!??!!

Heaven knows what he would have "exposed" about her!! She does or doesn't answer her phone promptly? Whatever it is, it must be because she's a "LIBERAL."

The Republican agenda according to Fox "News" amounts to desperation manifested in insult, name calling, and punditry on a par with tabloid gossip. Clearly, this "news" station has exposed itself over and over as illegitimate. They report news before it is even played out -- have panel guests like Barbara Eden -- Jeannie? -- discussing current news and world events (I loved Jeannie, but..not sure I'd consult her on health care or the stimulus bill..), and discuss the underwear bomber as a byproduct of "soft on terror" policies of democrats and liberals.. It is all but wreckless to conclude that Abdhulmutallab's boarding of a plane bound for Detroit with explosives on his person has something to do with President Obama's less ideological and impassioned reaction to the very serious threats this country has faced and continues to face.

I'd say the Horse is called Relevance -- and Fox News has fallen off it. Please read www.neonewspub.com ---in particular-- "Of Cleavage and Credentials for more on this subject.

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