DynCorp whistleblower revealed alleged sex-slave trade among fellow Americans in Bosnia
Halliburton and Blackwater, apparently, were just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to American corporate corruption overseas -- the kind aided and abetted by the U.S. government.
Now there's this case involving DynCorp, as reported by CorpWatch:
Middle-aged men having sex with 12- to 15-year-olds was too much for Ben Johnston, a hulking 6-foot-5-inch Texan, and more than a year ago he blew the whistle on his employer, DynCorp, a U.S. contracting company doing business in Bosnia.
According to the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organization Act (RICO) lawsuit filed in Texas on behalf of the former DynCorp aircraft mechanic, "in the latter part of 1999 Johnston learned that employees and supervisors from DynCorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior [and] were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and [participating in other immoral acts. Johnston witnessed coworkers and supervisors literally buying and selling women for their own personal enjoyment, and employees would brag about the various ages and talents of the individual slaves they had purchased."
Rather than acknowledge and reward Johnston's effort to get this behavior stopped, DynCorp fired him, forcing him into protective custody by the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID) until the investigators could get him safely out of Kosovo and returned to the United States.
And the case's outcome?
Incredibly, the CID case was closed in June 2000 and turned over to the Bosnian authorities. DynCorp says it conducted its own investigation, and Hirtz and Werner were fired by DynCorp and returned to the United States but were not prosecuted. Experts in slave trafficking aren't buying the CID's interpretation of the law.
Hey, I'm sure they had America's best interests at heart, and therefore we should just forgive them.
Starts at the beginning...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU
Of course no answers. No conclusions. We need more muckraking.
Good for Cynthia McKinney. Rumsfeld actually looked a little scared and chastened. Nice to see. Maybe karma will pay him a visit soon.
btw, Orangutan, you are a great muckraker! I always enjoy your informative links and posts.
I appreciate that. I really do.
So Rumsfeld and Myers et al. never got back to her at all with answers to her questions?
It's pretty obvious from that video that all those "old white guys" had their knickers in a knot by the time she got through with them. She's obviously a lot smarter than the whole bunch of them together!! Good on her!!! Too bad we don't have more like her!
Cynthia McKinney was set up for that brouhaha with the Capitol Police--just in time to derail her election campaign.
Sadly, this surprises me not. As an NGO worker throughout South Asia, I've seen or heard about these situations time and again. The UN in Cambodia (UNESCO) had many U.S. contractors working for them in the early 90s. They traded children like baseball cards. It seems that some men who might otherwise behave in the U.S., quickly turn to f'n animals when they're in a lawless situation. It disgusts me beyond belief.
This case is so bad even the Catholic Church is saying, "Hey, at least we're not as bad as Dyncorp."
Anyone up for a 'leave no child behind' joke? Me neither.
fucking a twelve year old in vatican city is legal.
Dyna corp is tied with the vatican.
Of course, will want to LOOK FORWARD, NOT BACK, and EXCUSE all the misdeeds of the past.
SLAVERY and WAR CRIMES are OKAY, as long as it was committed on GWB's watch.
TORTURE and FASCIST VOYEURISM - still okay, as long as it was George's problem.
Eric Holder protects the rich and powerful. Obama just wants NICE NEWS on the TV. Sweep it ALL under the rug.
for having sex with a twelve year old, don't forget that the consensual age for sex at the vatican is 12. That's right. The religion - that our morals are based upon - states it is OK - to have sex with children.
Its weird how the law says one thing and the pope says another.
First off let me say I do not believe in sex with children.
It's probably why one of the leading causes of death in women until the 20th century was childbirth.
(Interestingly, no one claimed heterosexuality was a deadly lifestyle choice and tried to ban it).
But adoloscence is a modern concept.
Until the 1920's the average American was rural, and people started marrying off their daughthers at 12 or so.
That made sense in it's way, because that way if they get pregnant it's within marriage.
In 1849, the English Government hanged their last child, a nine year old boy for arson.
People used to bring their children to watch other children be hanged at the prisonyard as a moral object lesson.
But around the turn of the century, in both Great Britain and the United States, came prison reforms. People questioned whether it did any good to lock up young offenders with older men who could teach them to be better criminals.
Thus the juvenile reform school system was born.
Hollywood took up the rest. Around the 1930's came the nationally popular American radio show, Henry Aldrich, All-American Boy. Then came the Mickey Rooney/Judy Garland Andy Hardy movie series. In the comic books came Archie Andrews. And thus the teenager was born.
In the fifties, the teenager became a marketing niche for transistor radios, rock-and/or-roll, and movies like I Was A Teenage Werewolf, and I Was A Teenaged Frankenstein.
In Great Britain to this day, it's legal to have sex with a 16 year old girl, and with great fanfare of equaltiy it became legal for homosexuals to have sex between adults and a 16 year olds (before it was 21.)
So one has to be careful with just blaming the Vatican alone.
But it's clear they do not lead, but only follow, or should get the hell out of our way.
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Great background on the subject. And although I do not believe in sex with children either, there are a lot of cases where adolescents are getting branded pedophiles for experimental sex almost everyone used to do to transmitting digital photos of themselves. I think our laws need to be re-examined.
I recently discovered the vatican's policy and have been pointing it out to provide relativity/expose hypocracy or however they want to take it. It does get worse, some Arab countries are as low as 9.
Medieval English law was six. However, we have to be careful with these low ages. They may've been to arrange marriages, not for rutting.
I've heard of Indian girls being married at 5 and boys at 6, but the marriage isn't consumated until something like 18. Although often the male was older.
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Especially anything coming out of ANY religous doctrine!
According to some researchers, no nine year olds were subjected to capital punishment in England in 1849.
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/child.html
According to some researchers, the Catholic Church never killed any one.
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It is an urban legend that Americans married their children off at age 12, prior to the 1920s.
The average age of marriage for a female in the 1600s was 26 years old, by the year 1890 it had fallen to the age of 22.
People started puberty back then between the ages of 16 and 18. Poor nutrition slows the development of the body. It is a very recent thing for girls and boys to start puberty at the age of 12. It has mostly to do with all the growth hormones in the meat combine with a better diet.
That's when you count in the concept of dowry. At one time women saved up for marriage.
Also in the 1600's it wasn't uncommon for women to willingly be involved with premarital sex.
Then you had the Elizabethan/Edwardian age when times were wild followed by the Regency age of around 1810.
So then you figure in the average age between the promiscuous and the rural which if our examples would be 22-12, which is 16 or 17.
And of course the urban women were considered much "looser."
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and there were a whole lot of English kinds and queens between. The Edwardians had their own problems with child prostitution... . Also, urban women were not necessarily considered "looser." Farmer's daughters and all that.
What age was Osama when George got to pop his cherry?
I was using an average of starting at the earliest at 12, and was confining it to the rural only.
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"WORD HISTORY The adolescent grows up to become the adult. The words adolescent and adult ultimately come from forms of the same Latin word, adolēscere, meaning “to grow up.” The present participle of adolēscere, adolēscēns, from which adolescent derives, means “growing up,” while the past participle adultus, the source of adult, means “grown up.” Appropriately enough, adolescent, first recorded in English in a work written perhaps in 1440, seems to have come into the language before adult, first recorded in a work published in 1531."
Adult is a later term. Hum!
And don't forget the muslims....I think their age a consent is 10.
I'm not. But you got to remmember the idea of the arranged marriage. Often these lower ages were to set these.
Even in America, up to about World War I arranged marriages if they weren't the norm were not uncommon.
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A few rich people, mostly in the South, arranged marriages for their children; but, it has never been common to have arranged marriages in America. Dating has always been the cultural norm in America.
Now craigslist is the cultural norm.
Many southern families insist that their children marry second or third cousins. Keeps rackets and family secrets safe.
Child incest is more common than anyone suspects. Some mothers encouraged it to keep from getting pregnant, and frequently men consorted per anus with their sons. I am aware of one family where daughters were taught no housekeeping skills before marriage because the family mothers were afraid that the father would use the daughter for sex, kill the mother, and claim that she had left him.
In the mountains, marriage was legal at 16.
Hereditary prostitution families started training their daughters in oral sex at 7 but withheld them from vaginal sex until 11 or 12. Often, pedophiles would go to African-American sources to access their children--Billie Holiday worked in a Baltimore house of prostitution in her very early teens.
Child protective laws have made a huge difference in the lives of female children, but "cornholing' boys is still a common gringo practice in this area, and teachers apparently ignore older boys having bowel control problems arising from this practice.
What we really need is women-owned minority overseas contractors but even that is no guarantee of safety.
the age of mohameds second wife
Does anyone know how we can get a message to Ben Johnston, thanking him for his efforts and letting him know we support his morality? Whistleblowers are owed a debt of gratitude, and I would like to let him know that he did the right thing.
Once again IOKIYAR. We need war crimes tribunals for all Bush administration officials and all of their military and civilian contractors. Unfortunately, it does not look like it will happen. Leona Helmsly was right after all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxxBxvOGXm0&eu...
The Russiam Mafia runs the country and the sex, weapons, and drug trade are everywhere. This isn't that unusual of thing for a region that experienced such severe ethnic cleansing. Bosnia is a lot like the Wild West.
But on the other hand, it's a hell of a lot better of a place than what it was when we invaded.
Why would I want to read republi****'s ann colter column for free?
She couldn't pay me.
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That's new; it automatically censored me, well ain't that fudging great!
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I said fucking up above and it didn't censor me at all.
Must be the crooks and liars premium membership that I pay for.
My comment right above was more coarse, expecting to see it automatically censored. Then I went back in and changed it to fudging.
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Or are you not supposed to say the republican's name in vane?
Yep it was ****.
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quaynt.
seriously it means the same thing and will fool the sensors
I prefer the Southern cracker version:
Poontang.
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dixie chicks - not ready to make nice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwc5YSAc-7g
5,259,310 hits in 3 years.
Somehow this song was written for today.
but something everybody who isn't aware of it happening should be made aware of it.
Yeah, everyone calls the troops "heros".
But the fact of the matter is most Dyncorp employees are ex-military, and an alarming percentage of them are a bunch of shithead morons.
I know. I was in the US Navy. Then a few years after I got out of the Navy I took a job with Dyncorp - doing the exact same thing I did in the Navy - as a civilian. After doing something so "specific" in the military, it seemed to me to be "slim pickins" as far as finding decent paying jobs that you qualify for - you have to do what you got to do. But part of the reason I got out of the Navy to begin with was to escape the stupid and simpleminded. This place was like going back into the Navy - the mentality and personalities were the same.
I ended up hating a rather large percentage of the immature asshole children at the particular place I was at - as much as I hated the geographic region the job was in - southern Maryland. I couldn't take it anymore and took the first decent job I could find back in New York!
On a sidenote, not all US Navy or Dyncorp personnel are assholes - just enough to make me feel the need to get as far the fuck away from people like that as possible!
My younger brother once had a job in the local prisons, doing maintenance work. But eventually he had to leave. He liked and visited with prisoners, and disliked his co-workers, who least of all didn't understand his vegetarianism.
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everywhere...including right here in the states
really disgusting
And requires lots of tissues.
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American corporations exploiting the grey area that is law enforcement for these American contract workers overseas. Between Dyncorp and the Halliburton/KBR rapes, murders, thefts, etc., there's probably a criminal community that thrives on these jobs, and the corporations need only cover the crimes up. American corporations need to be under American law enforcement while overseas. However, I have no problem with a KBR rapist doing his time in an Iraqi prison.
extraordinary renditon to a Tijuana jail to get the truth out first!
about citizens going to other countries to have sex with kids.
maybe it is ignored when the citizens are employees of a company with a federal contract.
Or live in Florida and have their own radio show...
This is a non-story. It's just some good old conservative boy's idea of blowing off steam in a tense war zone.
Haven't you figured it out yet? Laws don't apply to those with all the right connections in America these days. The United States of America really no longer exists only the coporate fuedalism that replaced it.
are we still in Kosovo anyway? Bush. Get the troops out of Kosovo now!
What happened to these Americans? Is it just a corporate thing? Morals and ethics are tossed while employed by a corporation? If those guys had to tell what they did in Kosovo to their mothers, children, and their home towns would they consider slavery an abomination? Would they want their 12 or 13 yr old used sexually by some old stupid fart?
Dyncorp has a history of these same problems
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=typ...
The same, bragging about sex, including with children and such, is entrenched at the admin level in public schools where it is the mark of the good ole boy, at least in my exp. Most parents don't know about it and school boards seem to be preoccupied with supporting a different kind of image of professional competence which really isn't there. I had to put up with talk like that for five years at a public school job, and this while a family friend's daughter was raped in my building. I wasn't fired for bringing it up, but threatened with prosecution for saying I'd kill the one bastard for talking like that if I had to sit in on another meeting. I wasn't angry, mind you, long past that, but one more word out that man's mouth and I'd have done my duty to God and country.
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