Gee, another well-armed Glenn Beck fan freaked out about FEMA concentration camps. Whoda thunk?
Well, at least this time -- unlike the last -- no one got hurt:
A woman who police said had an XM-15 assault rifle, a shotgun, and 500 rounds of ammunition in her car was arrested and charged with trespassing after officials at the Air National Guard Base at Gabreski Airport called the Suffolk County Sheriff’s office to report that she was taking photographs on base property in Westhampton Thursday night.
Nancy Genovese, 49, of Lakewood Avenue in Quogue was charged with criminal trespass in the third degree, arraigned in Southampton Town Justice Court on Friday and is being held at the Suffolk County Correctional Facility in Riverhead on $50,000 bail.
This wasn’t the first time Ms. Genovese was observed taking pictures of the base, according to the sheriff’s department. When Deputy Sheriff Robert Carlock arrived at the scene Thursday night, he was told by members of the Air National Guard that she had been warned for several weeks to stay off of the airport property. She had reportedly been seen several times taking pictures along the perimeter of the base. An off-duty Southampton Town Police officer recognized Ms. Genovese when she returned to the base Thursday night.
If you go to Genovese's MySpace page, you'll see that it features the nice woman at right and the declaration "Μολών Λaβέ" -- or "Molon labe" which is Greek for "Come and get them." This, as I've described previously, is a favorite theme or code word among the new militias organizing out there; they are declaring that Obama will take their guns away only by deadly force. As Wikipedia notes, it's the sentimental equivalent of "Over my dead body."
Genovese's MySpace blog declares, among other things, her utter admiration for Glenn Beck:
...we the people. I just saw GlennBeck tell it like it is!
Yes, he was firm and he is talking to congress, for all of us.
...we the people. I just saw Glenn Becks show, now on the 2 am show, missed it at 5 PM today.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Please do re post this video.
He is mad as hell and so are we. He is right and so are we.
He says a copy of the letter he is speaking of, from a grandmother, is on his site
GlennBeck.com, if you want to add a comment or sign it.
God Bless all of you my friends.
She is also obsessed with FEMA and ardently believes that concentration camps are being built:
He got me by surprise on his first call. I wasn't ready for him. I just called his direct line, and spent about 10 minuets on the phone with questions I wanted to ask him, being from DHS.
He says there is no way right now, marshal law will be imposed in the USA. He told me it would have to be dyer situation for the President to make such a declaration.
I presented a scenario of dyer straits to him, like, the dollar goes down to the predicted 15.7 cent in value, swine flu is killing people and they have a few million dead bodies to deal with, people have no homes, no food, looting is going on. Um, yes, martial law would be something the country would need.
He did insist Americans would never put up with being put in any camp and stopped me when I even mentioned the word camp.
He told me FEMA owns NO camps. None.
I asked, "you must see the info on the internet regarding these camps?" He told me he ..."works all day and had no time to research the videos" and docs proving FEMA owns these camps. I have the feeling his job title may be damage control.
I'm sure Beck will deny he had anything to do with this, too. Maybe she's just another liberal out to make conservatives look nutty.
No doubt he'll point out that he actually debunked the FEMA camps story. This is true. Unfortunately, as we also noted, it followed on three weeks' worth of Beck telling his audience he "couldn't debunk" the camps story.
booksnmore4you at DailyKos has more details. As does Martin Hill at OpEd News.
..and I had no idea. Wake up America - there are nuts everywhere!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I live in Suffolk County.
Fucking right wing loons everywhere.
Fucking Beck.
Fucking religion.
Religion isn't the problem. It's the morons that use religion as a shield and an excuse for their batshit-crazy lunacy.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
Religion is A problem.
Religion is a non-entity. It means nothing other than the people who wield it.
Anyone can find just as many instances in which religion has been a benefit to humanity, not because it's religion, but the people behind it.
Labeling "religion" as a catch-all fault is saying the same thing as all liberals are dirty hippies. It diminishes the true argument and masks the source of the problem (the people).
As in the case of the liberal example, it reduces those with that political affiliation as a misguided stereotype.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
Magical thinking clouds people's minds with bad reasons for believing things. Is it any wonder why these loons invoke Beck and their god all the time?
Religion does more harm than good. It's time humans get over it already.
You're talking about mythology and superstitions.
You're right, on those points humanity needs to move to different direction.
I'll cite an example: In the case of Hurricane Katrina, it was people within churches that united to help others that were negatively impacted by the storm's wake. At the same time the Robertsons and the Falwells were blaming "alternative lifestyles" as the source of the storm.
In both cases, was it religion that helped and harmed others? No, it was the people.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
Religion is mythology and superstition.
And please, as if religion has a monopoly on charity.
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. "
-Steven Weinberg
FFRF Receives 4-stars From Charity Navigator
"Charity Navigator has awarded a 4-star rating to the Freedom From Religion Foundation, which is so far the only state/church organization to receive such a rating."
http://ffrf.org/news/2005/4starcharity.php
Study the symptoms not the virus...
... who needs religion? As you logically deduce and point to the facts... and thereby conclusively prove... it fundamentally comes down to "the people".
As you state..."In both cases, was it religion that helped and harmed others? No, it was the people."
Yes... The truth shall set you free :)
You'll get more Bees w/honey...
vinegarStudy the symptoms not the virus...
1.a. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
b. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.
2. The life or condition of a person in a religious order.
3. A set of beliefs, values, and practices based on the teachings of a spiritual leader.
4. A cause, a principle, or an activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Religion is a word like drug or sport. Drugs can be hardcore crack or it can be medicine from doctors. Sports can be football to pool to bowling. Religion can be personal spirituality or it can be giant dogmatic institutions.
The American Heritage Dictionary, for which definition I've provided. :)
Though football does have a duel interpretation, now that you mention it √
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Religion is a usurping of mythology and superstition for political control.
Corporatism is a usurping of trade and business for political control.
Both of these instances are easy to understand if you remember that they only exist (in physicality) on paper. They are structures created by others to limit and coerce your mind.
Both expect blind obedience and blind faith while constantly being a source of community and social problems.
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
... Thank you ♥
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Dogma is the problem. Religion is the biggest purveyor there is. But yes, corporatism and nationalism can be dogmas as well. Although unless there is a supernatural element to these dogmas I am not so sure 'religion' is the best word for them. Quasi-religion perhaps. ex: soviet union who even had their own version of agricultural psuedo-science. Or nazism which again had their psuedo-scientific notions of anthropology.
I suggest that the Dept. of Fatherland Security compile a report detailing the threats from right wing extremists.
What's that you say? It's been done, but retracted due to the hyperventilating screams and whines of wacky right wingers? Wow.
Maybe we should require broadcast licenses for individuals be reinstated before we have a Rwandan-style massacre here.
Without regulatory teeth to match, it's a waste of time.
Mind, stations already have requirements to serve the community, and if FOX is allowed to remain in business, and Rush Limbaugh is nationally syndicated, we've already lost that part of the fight.
Limpballs can be easily arrested under Bush's Patriot Act and it's happened in every war in this nation's history.
... why is the Army National Guard Advertising job openings for INTERNMENT / RESETTLEMENT SPECIALIST.
http://www.nationalguard.com/careers/mos/desc...
You are fools for not researching what people are screaming about... We are in this together and the left/right paradigm is all a lie.
Wake up my fellow citizens.. the German people had no idea what was going on when the camps were being built in their country.
The Holocaust happened to people like us.
Even people at MTV warned us last year too... where are you at?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stXwRoiY1y8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFmkwmc1xKY
Google: D.O.D. Civilian Inmate Labor Program
..but if anyone had an ounce of sense, they'd put this woman behind bars for as long as any crime she committed permits. OK, there are people saying, "She's wacked!" and that may be. Hopefully, while she's behind bars, she can get all the help she needs. Someone has to take a stand on this. No matter how trivial, it won't end until people pay a price for stupidity and wing-nuttery.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
This is where Beck needs to man up and try to quell this sort of idiocy.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
- the assumption that Beck is capable of being a man.
- the assumption that Beck isn't an idiot.
- the assumption that Beck gives a shit.
Yeah, isn't that right! Beck cares about Beck, Beck's paycheck and Beck's ratings. What does he care if this individual kills a National Guardsman or my kid or my friend or just someone walking past the base? He could care less.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
face it. Uncle Buck will make this a centerpiece of his show, do a special on Faux news and cry all the way to the bank.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
..if you haven't read the OpEd News article yet about her myspace page, well, I can see Beck supporting this woman's cause all the way. After all, her Constitutional rights to bear arms have been trampled on, she took pictures illegally while outside of the base, etc. The rant explaining what the police can and cannot do is a page from the W's little book of how to shred the constitution but that won't matter. Obama is the President now and you know how that will play.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
If she were a he and had dark skin wouldn't there be a charge of terrorist on her record?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
No doubt, POP.
She would have been charged with attempting to plot a terrorist attack or something similar. There is no doubt about that.
If she had dark skin, she would not have been charged, she would simply be held indefinitely in an offshore prison, and tortured because she would be considered so dangerous that she couldn't possibly be allowed a trial.
so true. now THAT is something to be angry about.
I don't know much about weapons, but that XM-15 looks like some kind of high-powered assault rifle whose main purpose is mass killing of people.....what the hell was she doing with 500 rounds of ammunition in her car with this gun?
She needs to be locked up, her gun taken away, and she should be prohibited from purchasing any guns in the future.
These people are downright scary.
is a modified version of the AR-15...very good weapon from what I hear.
And again...I say, arm yourselves people.
..deer. Maybe she was hunting? Oh yeah, illegal to use a rifle to hunt on Long Island. Yeah, maybe mass murder.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Damned straight.
You don't have to get assault rifles and machine guns.
A 12 gauge or a 357 revolver to defend yourself in your own home seems like common sense anymore.
It is a sad state of affairs, but the wingers are being whipped to a frenzy by the corporate media.
Whipped to a frenzy against THE LIBBRILLS!
Also, I've removed my bumper stickers from the car. Liberal themed bumper stickers serve as a bullseye for the wing nutters.
I got these stickers:
http://www.cafepress.com/subgen.8403690
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/priorservice_2060_303...
http://www.zazzle.com/im_voting_for_that_one_...
And Save the Bats.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
That's great!
Last October, I was visiting my sister in the DC area. I saw a car with a huge sign on its side that said "I'm voting for 'That One'"!
I live in a conservative town where I was told that if I was liberal, they would ruin my small business.
I have brazenly stood my liberal ground and rotate my magnetic car messages. I have found that a strong following appreciate it.
The difference is that liberals all too often choose to not speak out and let the bullies try to scare them into submissions. Doing so lets them win. The sound of our silence is our admission to the sins we let happen.
You will find the wingnuts, like most bullies, will back down when they know you are not going to buckle and will not take intimidation. Watch the blowhard squirm when someone says he will not be intimidated: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctlmholr45c
The rule is not to start a fight, but be ready to finish it.
(BTW: I live in one of the few towns that stood up to corperate thugs and didn't let them intimidate us - Walmart buckled and decided NOT to build in our backyard.
In my case, I can't have any stickers (that aren't marine diesel engine related)on my car...well it's the company truck actually...
But I do wear the hell outta some political shirts.
... marine paint them on? :P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
She should be lobotomized in the trunk of a car in an alley in ole Dixie.
Bushmaster XM15. Modernized version of the Armalite AR-15/M-16 design. Used with great effect in the 2002 Beltway Sniper Attacks.
No way it'll fit in that Saturn Sky's trunk if the top is down though.
Jesus.....I thought that gun looked kind of familiar.
Throw her in prison for a very long time.
"outlook cloudy today" when I asked it if this rethug is sane.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
I thought come and get them was was courtyard courtersans said in reference to their naughty bits.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
of an ant.
''''
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jpUVQ_z6Zcs
It was supposedly an actuall quote of the Spartans at Thermopylae, but dont expect someone like this to know that. They heard it on 300 and thought it was so cool.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
According to her My(waste of)Space page, she's 100 years old! Another day, another idiot.
whoda thunkit?
I saw that too....wonder if she's the anti-christ? Aren't many of those bible characters very old people?
How friggin' stupid do you have to be to idolize Glen Beck? This is scary stupid.
... Sarah Palin = Sexxxxxxxxxxy!
that produces.
Obama=socialist/secret muslim
we are now completely in the grips of the law of diminishing returns of information technology.
FEMA does have concentration camps. It's no secret, and their inhuman use on the intended victims, undocumented alien families, doesn't seem to bother these wingnuts at all. In fact, political pressure from such people is precisely why we treat the undocumented inhumanely.
I wonder if the relationship between right-wing support of concentration camps for others, with an unreasonable fear that they will be used on right-wingers themselves, isn't just one of irony or hyposcrisy, but is actually causal. These folks understand on some level that the way they treat (or would treat if we dang-nabbed bleeding hearts would let them) hated minorities is profoundly unjust, and therefore deserving of retribution in a universe in which justice prevails. But because they can't consciously acknowledge their injustice, they don't think this through, and instead of looking for this retribution where the cosmos actually will impose it (in the increasingly destructive results of the increasingly irrational decisions reached by any political process over which they have any influence), magical thinking results in their reasonable fears taking the unreasonable form of the fear that someone is planning for them the same injustice they want imposed on their victims. By a similar mechanism, Americans have a morbid and exaggerated fear of WMD, because they dropped the atomic bomb on civilians. Southerners have an exaggerated fear of Black Power, because of the White Power they abused for so long.
put up trailer parks for Katrina victims, hundreds of trailers (leaking formaldehyde), on pavement, with noplace for people to congregate nor kids to play, and most folks didn't have transportation. They were/are so far out that there's no public trans available either, so no jobs. Fenced and locked. Guards at the gates. And no photos allowed by outsiders. No Internet.
And remember, these are people who haven't done anything criminal-- except being poor and black.
How do I know? A favorite professor from Arizona went there and got interviews and photos, got the word out in 2007. I attended a presentation.
As far as the "list" of 600+ camps, nope. Most are debunked. But private prisons are being built all the time. Why should FEMA compete with that-- the prison-industrial complex?
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
I was confusing FEMA with the DHS, of which it is a part, when I referred to concentration camps. I meant to refer to the way INS and other DHS agencies treat the undocumented.
Sure, the way Katrina victims were treated is on the same continuum, but I think less extreme than what we do to the undocumented.
...to be treated badly.
Here in Texas, not very long ago, a pregnant woman died in a jail because she couldn't get medical treatment for her vaginal bleeding. All they did was offer her Tylenol. For three days.
In Arizona (in Sheriff Joe's jail) a woman arrested for prostitution died after being in a holding "cell" unshaded in the hot sun, all day long.
Both these women were white. Race had nothing to do with it. It's a systemic problem.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Imagine if this person had been of Middle Eastern descent, the MSM would have gone beserk branding this freak a terrorist. Instead---nothing because she is a right winger. Why, they mean no harm, right?
Not hardly. Al Queda has nothing on these bizarre wackos.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
If somebody you know claims to have lots of guns, belongs to one of these militias, makes veiled threats against the government, etc.
Call the cops. Simple as that. There are a lot of crazy people out there today, and some of them have guns. Time for them to go to jail.
Some places, the gun nuts you describe are the cops.
Just describe the people as brown with a turban on their head. They will be there in New York second.
I used to work with a guy who was a gun nut. Actually, at work, he was quite the friendly guy, and I did once hook up with him and his wife in Munich....had a great time drinking a few liters of beer.
However, I did have an uneasy feeling about him sometimes when he talked about his guns. He got his crazed grin on his face with a scary laugh. I think he was possessed, and I always turned him down when he asked me if I wanted to come shoot his guns with him. As far as I know, however, he wasn't a member of any militia.
he was just psycho.
I know a few people like that...
one is my brother, lol!
Ignorant, stupid, and brainwashed by a moron. Not to mention armed to the nth degree.
These kooks should keep us occupied, as the fascist super-rich who use them steal the remaining crumbs from under our noses.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
These whack-a-doos don't seem to understand how they are destroying their own party and these incidents need to be pounded, not ignored, into their faces. The media needs to make fun of these losers.
And weirdest of all, the wingnut spokesmen give these people credence, excuses and a free pass to continue their lawbreaking and to inspire others that the way to let off stress, to throw a tantrum over a black guy beating an old Navy f-up and his queen of Sheba, the Mayor of Mudfalls, is to go out and blow away fellow christofascists and strangers!
Why don't they just put the barrel in their own mouth and pull the trigger with their big toe?
Today the local CBS Morning News was snickering about a former college student suing her alma mater, because she hasn't been able to find a job in six months.
My immediate thought was colleges are over promised to the detriment of trade schools in this country, and it's value in lnading a job exaggerrated
And just what did they promise her; could they've over-promised?
But instead these airblown airheads whose jobs depend more on looks than any actual skill just laughed about it.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
..if only to prevent the jury pool from getting preconceived notions that she might be insane. She is not running around with tinfoil on her head, aliens didn't tell her to stock up on weapons and she should not be given a free pass by being able to plead guilty by reason of insanity. She had the presence of mind to post her bs on My(wasteof)space.com.
I hope the judge see this for what it is and deals with her accordingly.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I have a few guns in my home which are legal and stay locked up in a very heavy safe that only I know the combo to. I have my guns simply because I like to go target shooting from time to time. Its a hobby of mine. When I am not out doing target practice my guns stay in my safe collecting dust. I don't obsess over them.
For the life of me, I do not understand people like that right wing nut job. I've seen nor heard of any recent laws that they claim Obama is putting out regarding the confiscation of guns by owners who can legally have them. No police have come to my door, etc. I do not know where these right wing nut jobs get this stuff. What do they just make it up?
It's a special little corner of the job market, making stuff up. And it started long before Nixon's Dirty Tricks professionals became known.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
This is mainly a story made up by the gun manufacturers to get people to buy guns. Of course once a gun nut, and I am not taking about people who own guns like yourself, once a gun nut hears this they tell all their gun nut friends and those gun nut friends tell their gun nut friends and it sounds as if the Obamas are knocking on doors. The next thing you know you have gun nuts adding to their arsenal and ammo cache. If the Obama people were to say they were going to outlaw 50 caliber super duper machine guns these gun nuts would go buy a few more AR 15s 45 cal. hand guns. These people are stupid.
they have a deep seated need to feel persecuted. if it isn't about guns, it would be about flags, or income taxes, or brown people taking over "their" country, or abortion, or homosexuals getting married, or the country adopting socialism, or the government trying to impose CAFE standards, or not being able to set up a manger at city hall at Christmas time, or not being able to say the Lord's Prayer in schools, and on and on and on. the list is so long. ultimately, it doesn't matter. they desire to live in a world of them vs. others, and so they do.
No more Greasy Spoons
How dare they!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
♥
Study the symptoms not the virus...
That's fair brilliant Rusty!
i insist that you do!
but there is current legislation that would prohibit anyone on the no-fly list from owning a firearm.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill...
And here is a list of some of the people on the list. Two commercial airline pilots one of which is authorized by the TSA to have a weapon in the cockpit.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/19/tsa.watch.li...
http://www.aero-news.net/index.cfm?ContentBlo...
And about 16,500 people that forgot their IDs
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/surveillanc...
And one that would make it a crime to take my son target shooting with a handgun or "assault weapon"
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?...
If we don't stop everybody from doing anything, somebody just might do something to me!
Funny how those who demanded unquestioning obedience to GW Bush and his proto fascist policies, and attacked the patriotism of anyone who questioned Bush in ANY way are now the ones calling Obama a fascist,claiming he has too much power.
Do these right wing fools remember how they behaved when Bush was in office?
I really think some of these right wingers had hoped Bush would have stayed in office as a right wing dictator..
WeeHeee, Operation Overwatch kickin in. I guess nobody has the balls to capture footage of the Army War Collage, not that I saw yet anyway. I keep searching "today's uploads" for Operation Overwatch, daily.
Fun fun fun.
It may help to establish her position(s). :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I'm sure she thinks 'hippies' on dope blew TWA Flight 800 out of the sky with their loud music and fucking in the woods.
Maybe some of the women were screamers.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
TWA Flight 800 Disaster: Cover-up? :-O :-/
[ http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/con... ]
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Isn't it ironic how someone like this woman who claims there are hundreds of concentration camps out there being set up by the "evil Obama Administration" end up breaking the law and being thrown into something similar (I.E. jail)?
They create their own reality I suppose.
I remember right wingers voicing delight at the possibility liberals and immigrants could be round up and sent off to concentration camps....But I guess thats only okay with the right if there is a Republican in the white house, and if only liberals are targeted for arrest.
well i cant speak for all of us criminally insane racist cult members, but im pretty sure all of us were very upset about all the suspicios government facilities being refurbished and modified to house us back when we were considerd left wing communist alqueda simpathyzers because we protested the war and the patriot act..
by the way, if there were hudreds of concentration camps they were built by Bush/Cheney.
Another thing is the only people would have ever taken guns away from anybody was the Cheney private storm troopers during Katrina in New Orleans. Funny how these gun freaks forget that.
...sure is a lot for trespassing. Wonder what charge they will have to come up with to justify that? Any lawyer can knock that down at the first hearing if she's only trespassing.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Trespassing outside an Air National Guard base is trespassing at a federal level. That she had a trunk full of guns and ammo and was also taking photos ... remember, that's the same stuff we arrested the dipsticks trying to attack Ft. Dix on.
It's called terrorism.
..she'll lose her guns. That would be a good thing.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
..once and for all stop a crime before its committed. Put this woman behind bars for as long as the law permits. She needs psychiatric care? Let her get it in jail! This woman has issues and she has guns. How many more children, police officers, security guards, et. al., need to be shot before these people learn we are a nation of laws?
The lawless think they can get away with crap like this because of what W, their patron saint of patriotism, got away with for eight years.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Minority Report. Go get 'em! If we put innocent people in jail for doings things we don't like, they won't be able to kill and eat our children.
I can sleep better now.
BTW - we are also a nation of RIGHTS.
In Orlando, FL, a black man is sent up the river for 2 1/2 years for writing a rap song called "Kill Me a Cop."(Seen on BuzzFlash)
Not that I condone the tone of his song - it is a song.
Glen Beck and company advocate the violent overthrow of the US government and deposing the president -
but that's okay because they're white and they have the "right" (corporate) politics.
The gentleman in Florida had the wrong skin color in the eyes of the law.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
that if the title of his song was "Kill Me a Kenyan" he wouldn't be in jail right now.
He'd be a guest on Beck's show.
I live and have lived in NY for most of my life and know the Island pretty well.
However, is CrazyTown on the North or South shore?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqY6mXULzpw ](0:48) :P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
..This crazy town is Westhampton Beach. The 106th Air Nat'l. Guard that has a base at Gabrieski Airport is the group charged with Search & Rescue if the Space Shuttle goes down. It is situated about 80 miles east of Manhattan on Long Island. They fly C-130's and HH-3's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/106th_Rescue_Wing
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Westhampton Beach (yes, that Hamptons) is on the South Fork of the Island.
Hicksville, not even in Suffolk.
My Hicksville comment was in humor... Note "Billy Joel" and "is CrazyTown on the North or South shore?"?
Where did TWA Flight 800 go down?
Don't make me call "Yaz" :P
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threw me off.
The entire subculture known as the Hamptons is crazy town. Try driving the mere forty miles from W.Hampton to E.Hampton and you'll think you're going to die. You think the L.I.Expressway is the world's longest parking lot? Try Sunrise Hwy. or Montauk Hwy. That's the south fork. Better yet, watch Royal Pains.
Flight 800 went down just south of here.
I'm glad I don't live there any more; I used to live in Quoque. Her address is more Westhampton.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
... robbery in Valley Stream / Green Acres Shopping plaza. As a professional driver myself... I've stayed in hotels / motel and yes Holiday Inn's from JFK to the Best Western in downtown Riverhead. From the North and South shore, I got a good taste of the vibrant communities, rich and poor.
I spoke with a guy who was out on the water that night of the TWA ordeal, his boat slip was located out of some place between Amityville and Babylon I believe. He was working in Plainview at the time of the tragedy.
And yes I'll never forget the traffic in the Hampton(s) as a tractor trailer driver, I'd often suffer from clutch-leg :) Though this was around the time of that Nurse murder trial... remember?
[ http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/richardang... ]
The short stay hotels, boy do I got some stories... :P
PS. I was paid by the hour... so that kinda helped. :)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Sotomayor's Gun Control Positions Could Prompt Conservative Backlash
[ http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/28/so... ]
Gun control group faces off with NRA:
[ http://www.boston.com/news/politics/political... ]
Study the symptoms not the virus...
..along with this nutty woman. When are they gonna serve an arrest warrant out on him & the rest of Fixed Noise? Or for that matter, the other wingnuts who are pushing this as hard as they can?
...were serving an arrest warrant.
Two deputies killed in Oklahoma shooting:
[ http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/26/oklahoma.... ] :-/
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..unlike this person and that woman,Beck and his ilk don't carry weapons on them as far as I know. And even if they did they wouldn't dare risk a stink until after they were booked.
Beck was gleefully telling his followers just about a week ago about how he went to the movies with his gun...
He should have been arrested soon after admitting such..
He has a carry permit and is allowed to by law. Same as myself. And I've carried to the movies and the theater. And even my city Independence day fest in the local park. No laws broken.
What the hell has to be your major malfunction to believe this crap?
I've got guns of my own and not for one minute did I ever think I'd lose them because of Obama, in fact, I even voted for the guy. If anything the Ca state government is more likely to take them away than the Feds. Obama hardly even brought up the topic of guns when campaigning.
I mean seriously, how brain damaged do you have to be to believe any of this "ooohhhh FUCK Obama's comming to take away your guns!" bullshit?
I love it how psychos like this Genovese end their message by saying, "God Bless all of you my friends."
Does she think "God" wants us all to go out and buy assault weapons and shoot anyone we disagree with?
If you believe we can spread "liberty" throughout the world by pointing our guns, then why not?
Chairman Mao:
"all political power comes from the barrel of a gun". and, they will use it in an attempt to impose their political will upon the rest of us
And it's just about the reason I left Christianity.
"Love Christ, hate Christians."
Same here. I left, because many didn't like my stance on Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. (I said that they shouldn't speak for Christians and that the church should call them out on some of their hate speak.)
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
Just realized I asked a stoopid question, which I answered myself.
She doesn't think "God" wants us ALL to go out and buy assault weapons. She just wants her own friends, "God's chosen ones," to go out and buy assault weapons and shoot anyone THEY disagree with!
Those two religions are looking more and more the same to me
Their missionary mentality. They all want to go around converting everybody, and think they're on some kind of mission from God/Allah.
in Florida, they call it the Baker Act. That's where she would be today if she pulled that shit.
coming home to roost.
Hope there's straw underneath.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-QbZCPrvl0
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
the GOP making her another "Joe the Plumber" type celebrity. She'll get speaking engagements at the Teabagger gatherings.
Lower the retirement age.
She probably thinks she's:
http://www.oxnardtenniscenter.com/Links/barba...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
We do not need more laws on the book that can be used against everyone except the one's it is intended for..
If anything we already have laws which condemn lies and slander against others.
We have laws against feeding lies and propaganda to start riots and attacks against others and the overthrowing of our government.
But the problem lies with our government which chooses which laws they wish to enforce and those they wish not to enforce.
Remember democrats were attacked , beaten , dragged off to jail on phony charges when they would say of carry signs which were against the criminal and corrupted actions from The Bush administration.
Like in WV they took Americans away from open public meetings who wore shirts or carried signs that were anti-Bush , fined and jailed them
In some southern states they pulled Americans over when they had signs on their cars which spoke out about Bush/Cheney's corruption and either fined or jailed them
Listen to what the Attorney General Mukasey said >>>> All crimes are not crimes to be prosecuted.
Not only did he state this but said that Bush has the right to do any d... thing he pleased and it was legal..
For instance:::
Lies to invade a Iraq.
Lies and fake propaganda to pass an illegal spying bill against American citizen for the previous administration.
Lies about their deceit and treason of outing a covert CIA agent for revenge.. Also this was very convenience because it also destroy their spy network which was checking on Iran's nuke program..
So this exposed them and they were no longer able to give Americans the true story of Iran's nuke program...
The corruption of the no-bid war contracts given to friends of Cheney and Bush and Feinstein. The thief of our tax money of over payment , duplicate contracts , contract not completed , disappearance of Military equipment ( three plane missing of 100,000 AK 47's), selling of U.S. military equipment to the very terrorist we were fighting or countries which in turn sold them to the terrorist.
The censorship with no charges or investigations into the rape and killing or innocent people including American citizens , and the cover-up..
The laws which were purged so the Banking Empire could perform their corruption and steal money from Americans even while giving them out tax money with the disapproval of the American citizens.
The signing of the Free Trade bill which gave the Corporations the ammunition they needed to completely outsource American manufacturing plants , jobs and the government even passed laws to stop them from paying taxes on their profits.
We have been taken and Americans no longer have the stomach to demand these inhuman criminal policies to stop..
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We better start now building new, bigger, prisons to put all the Right Wing-nut fringe, racists and terrorists that adore the bedwetting, cry-baby, dickhead Beck and will start killing innocent people.
In the year 2009, when we have elected a black president, made a great leap forward in social evolution and tolerance is the theme of the day, you want to lock up hordes of people for their belifes?
maybe thats what people like this woman are afraid of? people like you have control of our legislature, people who see no problem with building huge prisons to house political dissidents.
way to stick to liberal ideology, ow wait no one gives a shit about principles now that bush is gone and the democrats are in control, im starting to think all the "liberals" that sat with me out at camp casey protesting the war, or internment of innocent people were really only there becase it was a social scene and trendy to hate bush because he represented all the things you hate in one stupid moronic package.
In case you hadn't noticed, there's plenty of liberals on this very thread (who've been here much longer than an hour) who strongly disagree on this, and many other issues.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
well then perhaps i was only adressing the ones calling for people to be incarserated for their political views.
It's interesting that she praises Beck and writes "United we stand, divided we fall."
..so I wouldn't be surprised if after 103+ posts, someone has asked:
What about her weapons? She was arrested for trespassing and had two guns and 500 rounds. When she goes to trial, what happens if her "psychology" is brought into the picture? She's sane and she is held accountable, perhaps even goes to jail, when she gets out, does she still have her guns? OR does she buy more? Can she buy more? If she's found Not Guilty by reason of insanity, she must lose her guns, yes? Isn't that what she's worried about? Isn't that what WE'RE worried about especially if she's insane? She shouldn't be able to buy any more, should she?
Stay tuned folks! I want to know how this one plays out.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
If she's convicted of a felony she will have her gun-ownership rights restricted at worst and in many cases (depending on release boards) denied outright. So it will depend on the outcome of any prosecution and trial.
... when she's only been charged with a Class B misdemeanor?
See NY PEN Law 140.10 Criminal trespass in the third degree.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
the band's name correctly. It is Dire Straits, not ...
"I presented a scenario of dyer straits to him, like, the dollar goes down to the predicted 15.7 cent in value, swine flu is killing people and they have a few million dead bodies to deal with..."
And the proper scenarios to call out would be "Money for Nothing" or "Walk of Life".
FOX NEWS MILITARY MASS QUARANTINES
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtGofsHaj3M ](3:48)
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Beck and Dobbs repetitive hate-speech seemed to spawn some vile new production/content instructions over at CNN.
All morning long in the background of my office feed I hear CNN pushing the lie that Obama will raise middle income taxes after all. They've said it every 15 minutes for over 3 hours now. And are now calling Obama out as "Read My Lips Part 2"
Where did their peabrains get that idea from? Soley from excrapolating out the fact that over the weekend two of his Treasury officials didn't tell the bobble heads that he would NOT.
Innuendo by the absence of any real words at all is called Schizophrenia!
why don't you marry him?
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Charles Manson had a lot of strong beliefs about the government as well.He had lots of followers who thought he was the cat's pajamas.
Charles never actually personally killed anybody.His followers sure did though...
How is Beck any different?
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
If the photo is from the police, what law did she break regarding the ownership of weapons?
By the looks of it, she had 2 long guns and no handguns. She had ammunition in a bag and the guns were cased.
If I am not mistaken, there is no law against such transport as long as the guns were not loaded.
Some may not like the gun laws, but the ones that exist are still the ones citizens must abide by or see consequences and the law must abide by or see the same.
She was not committing an act of crime with the guns, right?
And to follow up with another post - would you rather the law try to find all these people and take away their guns to make you safe or would you rather be able to draw your own weapon when she comes into your place of business guns blazing?
She took pictures of the base, posted them (Federal Crime) !!!
This women is a extremist. Owning a weapon and posting sensitive material are two different things.
I read it. Again, no law against holding extreme views.
The law she allegedly broke is minor.
The guns and her views are what have people going all apeshit.
Hell, I posted in another thread that without some semblance of fair play in our society we aren't that far off from fighting each other for the limited resources available.
Am I an extremist?
I'm simply stating that on bases it clearly posted that photos are prohibited and are a federal offense. This woman clearly broke that law and posted that information on her my space page with extremists remarks.
Top that with the rifles it does lead to some pretty heavy problems.
Especially since it hasn't happened yet. Or maybe it was that huge Federal trial on those scary charges that haven't even been made.
She's in Justice Court on a minor misdemeanor charge of trespassing.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
I still don't understand what law she broke by possessing the firearms.
Maybe none.
If so, why were they seized?
She wasn't ACTUALLY ON the base, correct?
4th Amendment may have some legal precedent here.
... at this point. She's been charged with trespass. The firearms are only there to scare.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
even though she isnt being held on a fire arms charge, the fact that she had them is why david wrote the story, had it been a kid in a yes we can t-shirt investigating weather or not immigrant guest workers were being held there, the comments on here would be all about freeing him and claiming 1st ammendment on the pictures. Its convinent to say "o well she broke the law" but had she not had guns or disagreed with some poeples ideology, I seriously doubt a bunch of "edjucated" leftys would be calling "off with her head". we do not imprisson people in the united states for having a different political opinon, although several posters on here wish we did. It comes down to the guns are scary and black and you dont understand them.
Not really, there's already precedent for car searches. 4th amendment claims have been filed by those caught with dope hidden in their car, but cars have always been the exception since by nature they're movable.
And the police had probable cause to search her car due to her location and her priors.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
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