Credit where it's due: Glenn Beck's thorough debunking of FEMA camps confirms C&L's reportage
By David Neiwert Tuesday Apr 07, 2009 5:45am
When he wasn't complaining about us mean liberal bloggers yesterday, Glenn Beck actually did a very good thing on his Fox News show: He completely eviscerated the conspiracy theories about supposed "FEMA concentration camps" that have been a favorite of the right-wing lunatic fringe for some time now.
It is in fact an impressive and thorough debunking of the rumors, led by Jim Meigs of Popular Mechanics, who's very good at this kind of work. Meigs, as it happens, concludes that these theories originated in the 1990s with the Patriot/militia movement. (Go to Beck's site to read more.)
As it happens, that's exactly what we reported at C&L three weeks ago. And in fact, much of this information has been available for some time, though you would never know it from listening to the right-wing conspiracists.
Still, Beck deserves credit for his forthright reportage of the matter. Indeed, it seemed an apology for having unfairly accused him of promoting these theories seemed like it might be in order.
But then there's the small matter of what he actually said:
Beck: We don't even understand freedom anymore. We are a country that is headed toward socialism, totalitarianism, beyond your wildest imagination.I have to tell you, I am doing a story tonight, that I wanted to debunk these FEMA camps. I'm tired of hearing about them -- you know about them? I'm tired of hearing about them. I wanted to debunk them.
We'll we've now for several days been doing research on them -- I can't debunk them! And we're going to carry the story tonight.
...It is our government -- if you trust our government, it's fine. If you have any kind of fear that we might be headed toward a totalitarian state, there is something going on in our country that it's -- it ain't good.
Hmmm. This is a completely different Glenn Beck from the one who was on Fox tonight. Does he have an evil twin or something?
Beck tried to portray himself yesterday as fundamentally skeptical of the claims -- but he sure had a funny way of showing it a few weeks ago. As you can see in the clip, he actually went on to report the "FEMA camp" claims credulously back then.
Well, better late than never. I'm actually looking forward to Part 2 of the debunking tonight, because the first part was excellent, and while Beck may be slow coming around, it's always better late than never.
Mind you, we won't be holding our breaths to see if the lesson sticks. You never know which Glenn Beck is going to show up on any given day.
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Beck is a former shock jock who used to be addicted to cocaine. Why are we surprised and why isn't his past a story? This guy is a fraud.
Yes he is a fraud, the Fema camps are real, you check out who owns popular mechanics and you will see what I am talking about. DO you own reserch, but I will say this, their 9/11 story is full of holes.
hummmmmmmmm.......eeee.......ooooooo......I see you being taken away by men in white coats.....ummmmmmmm...eeeeeee....oooo...I see you in a padded room.....ummmmm.....eeeeee.......ooooo...I see you crying
You've been to his house, eh? ;-D
we had a prayer meeting. Rick Warren was there too. Rush Limpballs brought the desert, but the fat bastard ate it on his way again.
We danced the night away to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
True story. In the middle of the livingroom, we put down a dollar bill, and danced around it!
for fomenting violence. That's. About. It.
He's still a cop killer. Him and Bachmann.
"Your regular fear-mongering programming will soon commence." - Fox News
Glenn Beck'sRupert Murdoch's thorough debunking of FEMA camps confirms C&L's reportageBy David Neiwert Tuesday Apr 07, 2009 6:45am
Here's how to say goodbye to big evil banks, by the way.
http://www.stinque.com/2009/04/07/take-back-y...
He ran with a story that he couldn't verify, ranted about it for weeks as part of a conspiracy propogated by the Obama administration, and only later said, "Oh, it's not true."
Obviously, Beck is covering his assets. Presumably, if he's ever confronted with his lunancy, he'll argue, "Oh, that's not true, I specifically debunked that nonsense, because I'm an objective journalist."
Beck knows that the way to drive ratings is to play lunatic. Nobody ever listens to the recant, and if they do, it simply reinforces the belief that he's on the side of truth and justice.
Shameless.
Alex Jones is going to blow a gasket. But of course Beck is a CIA operative involved in Psy-Ops.
actually seen mentioned with a direct connection to the shooter in Pittsburgh. But if we probe deeply enough we might find his mother deprived him of opportunities to watch Mr. Rogers while growing up.
I was happily surprised to see this part of his show. My first reaction was that maybe someone at fox decided he had been pulling his leash way too far and reeled him in a bit. We'll see how and where he concludes this. When something looks too good to be true, it usually is.
Shades of, "I was teasing my hair and it bit me." (?)
"butchered"his hair while cutting it for doping tests.
That guy is awesome! He's Stephen Colbert with zero self-awareness which makes him unintentional comedy gold.
I would pay big money on pay-per-view to watch Glenn Beck take peyote and go on a spirit walk. Seriously, who wouldn't want to watch that!?!
would scare the crap out of Beck. and, for all we know, he did peyote before he became a Mormon.
This undermedicated fuck daily does harm to this nation, inciting violent from his ignorant racist hillbilly angry white man following.
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LeftandLeft, you hit the nail on the head. I would not, under any circumstance, go to this scum's website, or watch him on da teevee.
He's a pig, the people who tune in are lost, and there's no point in any of it getting sane people off their centers. Right now, it is crucial to stay in your center of peace.
Spend time with those you love, and leave all things Beck, hate-radio, and propaganda teevee to the ones who are already too far gone to evolve. You know, the ones who actually have a relationship with their guns.....as in Colbert's love affair with "Sweetness," his made-for-teevee gun.
I'm convinced these guys get a bigger kick out of fooling their base, than they get out of beating their opposition. They're like the evil used car salesmen who brag about selling the worst lemon to some poor sucker. They get a kick out of it. Rush, Rove, Beck... all the mono-syllable psychopaths.
Beck has all the signs of a paranoid schizophrenic. I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV or in comment sections of blogs but this case appears to be obvious. Beck is also a very dangerous person. Why does fox pay him? Fox and Beck and Buchmann will be held responsible when more people lose it and shoot it up.
Yes, indeed, Beck is a very dangerous person. Words and rhetoric matter, and he knows it.
During the Presidential campaign, many of these asswipes were saying that Obama was just an empty suit, one who could get votes by giving a great speech. If they truly believe that Obama got elected simply because he speaks well, that means they believe words matter.
If Beck doesn't believe that rhetoric and discourse from the likes of him and that crazy woman Michelle Bachmann do not incite violence and sedition in at least 1 person, then they truly have their heads stuck up their rear ends.
He did that story last night because of the story the Anti Defamation League ran about the Pittsburgh cop killer.
http://www.adl.org/learn/extremism_in_the_new...
Glenn Beck doesn't deserve any credit for covering his ass. Its also why he took a segment to deny he had anything to do with the shooting. Do you REALLY think he just got the info on the FEMA camps yesterday? Give me a break
Yes, let's keep it real, indeed. Tell me Beck had nothing to do with this lunatic in Pittsburg.
Do a little research on their (ADL) and terrorism
Google "ADL terrorist FBI" etc. heres one http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtrut...
There are, what, one million or so names on the No Fly list. Peace activists are on the terrorist watch list. Peace organizations have been infiltrated and are > < close to being on the receiving end of agents provocateur.
Sorry, guy, I am not buying this...at all.
The kids on the list one 5 yrs old also Ted kennedy,Bill Moyer,You might as well believe it because it's true
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
a direct link of Beck And Poplawski, although it was undocumented.
UPDATE
Well, having done my own research into the posting of Poplawski (as allegedly named Braced for Fate) on Stormfront, the neoNazi web site,
apparently the posting he made about Beck was in response to attacks on Beck for backing down on the FEMA camp theory. He agreed, saying Beck "backed down." Does this mean he agrees with Niewert?
They are pros at it
Yes. It is silly to think our government would ever do anything to harm its citizens. Not the benevolent US.
I don't know the details about the prison camps, but please don't let this be "The coast is clear, we can trust our government again." moment.
Our government is fucked up and they are hurting us and other people everyday.
The government hurts OTHER people and OTHER countries. If what you say is true, the US would be in a major recession right now, losing over 2 million jobs in last 4 months, and the government response would be to give the rich trillions, and give the poor an extra 25 bucks in their unemployment cheques. No way that would ever happen unless it was a Repub government. Ha!
See CC, I find your comments refreshing. This entire thread is "Oh what a bunch of loons, theorizing the government is against us."
This story is a distraction and the people in power run with it to say "Everything's OK and its only going to get better under this new
regimeadministration.The US is starting to put people in jail for their debts. Third party private companies are being used to collect fines, adding to or sometimes doubling the cost of getting out of trouble.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/06/opinion/06m...
So keep cheering about your non-existing fake prison camps while 2% of our population rots in private prisons, many of them non-violent offenders.
The US has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the worlds prisoners.
Woohoo! no prison camps here!
kinda funny in a *slap forehead* kind of way. Drugs? Government says those using drugs are bad and need to go to jail. Crash global economy and induce global poverty and wealth loss? Great, we'll bail you out. All hail one political party over the other! Life is weird.
You're doing your best to get this fruitcake exposure. Is it the duty of C&L to increase Becks' audience. Ignore this freak, all you're doing is glorifying his standings in Wingnuttia..
Beck has more viewers in a single night, or as many, as C&L's counter says has ever been here and much of that is repeat fans. Ain't it great?
headed toward socialism, totalitarianism, beyond our wildest imagination. All candy coated with a twitter topping.
Glenn is Kookoo! But Maybe in this case he tried to prove these camps existed, did some research, discovered these camps did not exist then switched his story.
because there WERE "FEMA camps", but such as they were, they were for Katrina victims. And those were temporary.
I was confused because I conflated the vague rumors I'd seen on other (liberal) websites about FEMA camps being built with the ones for Katrina refugees and thought the Katrina camps were permanent somewhere, now standing empty and available for victims of future tragedies. I recall a report on several of these FEMA camps with pictures and descriptions of how food and supplies were brought in, what the food and clothing supplies were, how the food was apportioned and prepared, etc. I don't know if anyone is still living there -- I didn't see any trailers but rather wooden buildings.
How come no one is going out to debunk the homeless camps?
popping up all over the country?
Yes. The media doesn't seem to want to talk about them. There is one near LA that has been there for over a year.
No acknowledgment or an offer of services from the government or FEMA (a sudden loss of your home isn't the same as a disaster, I know).
It is as if they don't exist.
country bubba. There's no safety net.
I was hoping I could stay at your place evet.
they are just campers that love the great outdoors?
Right sure it will God Bless AmUrica'
Beck is still the same old Beck...crazed, insane, major asshat.
He uses that same old defense of things not being taken "in context."
When I saw John Amato's post yesterday about Beck blaming C&L, I was pissed. I'm still infurated as heck. I'm trying to calm down before I send Beck an email!
Jack you seem to send a lot of emails. Please post the email addresses here for the emails you send so that others can writer emails as well.
Hey, Captain.
Yeah, I do send a lot of emails. When I'm watching TV in the evening, I often have my laptop turned on next to me. If I see something that goads me, I often send an email. It's usually pretty simple to just Google someone and find their web site, which often has a contact email.
The address I usually use for Beck is: me@glennbeck.com. I've sent a few emails to his producer, Stu....can't remember what that email is, but it's on Beck's website. It's probably stu@glennbeck.com.
Last night, I was watching Hardball. David Schuster was interviewing this wackjob from the Second Amendment Foundation, Alan Gottlieb. He was defending Beck and his use of Nazi imagery and comparing that to Obama. The guy said that the hatred and vitriol shown to Bush was worse than Beck using such imagery. He said that a recent poll shows that the level of divide in this country is higher than ever, since Obama took office....that poll did indeed come out very recently....but Gottlieb was blaming Obama for the results. He infuriated me, so I sent the following email last night:
"Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:51 PM
To: 'AdminForWeb@saf.org'
Subject: Alan Gottlieb on Hardball
Sir,
I am currently watching you on MSNBC.
Your arguments are incredulous; your arguments are absolutely absurd. You and your organization are indeed dangerous.
Using Nazi imagery is sickening. There is absolutely no excuse for it.
To say that people expressed hatred and vitriol against Bush, and that this hatred and vitriol was far worse than this Nazi imagery....Jesus H. Christ, sir. What in the world is wrong with you???? The Nazis killed millions and millions of people.
I cannot express the total disgust I feel right now after seeing you. This is sickening.
The divide in this country is not because of Obama; it is because of people like you who are paranoid and who obviously hate Obama. People like you are nothing but very paranoid fear mongers."
Maybe C&L could post a story about this Gottlieb character and his organization.
Has some serious nutjobs on lately.
First, Ari Fleischer says 9/11 didn't happen on Bush's watch.
Then, Frank Gaffney links Saddam to not just 9/11 but the OK City bombings.
Last night, Frank Gaffney insisted that Obama was using a secret code (that apparently only he knows) for submitting to Al Qaeda, the Saudis and the Taliban.
WTF is with MSNBC having all these nutjobs on? (Ok, ok, Fleischer is just a lying tool, well, maybe a nutjob, too.)
And can we please stop these assholes from screaming over each other. Gaffney is the worst of the lot!
I like it when they have these people on as long as they call them out on their bs like David did last night on hardball.
Gaffney's been on MSNBC often for some time. I think more often than not, Chris Matthews and David Schuster really criticize and question these guys. Last night, I think Schuster was quite effective in handling Gottlieb.
Yeah, Ari Fleischer is a lying tool....and a nutjob as well.
Must be something about Hardball that attracts the loons.
Yeah, they do attract the loons...like Bachmann....but see how much Chris Matthews' interview with her last October exposed her "looniness."
to what end? She got reelected and has seriously gone off the deep end ever since.
At least she was exposed more....on a national basis, not just in her district. And the election results apparently got much closer as a result of that exposure. I sent her opponent, Tinkelberg, a small amount of money.
Yep, she's seriously gone off the deep end....every time I see what she says, I simply cannot believe that someone can get more insane (like this past weekend...her comments about Obama's re-education camps).
Time will tell...sometimes it just takes time to get rid of the loons running our government.
I wish people could understand that just by keeping these sick freaks on the outside of our government is a good thing.
I wish I could kick him in the gonads.
He said nothing about Saddam linked to 9/11 he said (possibly) linked to 1993 WTC bombing but no (actual) evidence
It's disinformation
formaldahyde dependency.
an organism the size of the United States can run an economy based on one family selling the contents of its garage to the family next door.
when they rejected the McCain theory of Craigslist/E-bay "Trickle
Around" Economics.
Well give it till around Memorial Day then we'll start revisiting the "Reflationist Theory" currently underway.
which I rely on for all my cable business news.
the unemployment rolls only swelled by another measly half million last week.
pendants are only $299.99 this week if you act now.
a Pawn Shop in Beverly Hills.
That would be the slowest pawn shop in the world.
Remember, we bailed those rich mother f'er's out.
attn: david neiwert
project censored's top 25 censored stories for 2007
14) homeland security contracts KBR to build detention centers in the U.S.
neiwert, you really trust this federal gov't when they claim these detention centers will only be used for immigrants? or, even if they will be used for immigrants... that's okay with you?
also, what are our gov't's plans for continuity of operations, in the event of a catastrophic attack? why are these plans hidden from us? don't we have a right to know?
and, neiwert, how is it you can ridicule beck for talking about this stuff, when you yourself claim to have been concerned enough to go check out some of these sites?
your pal,
bullfrog
p.s. i do think you're a good writer, and congrats on your book!!
I reported on and discussed the FEMA camps back in 2007, and reached similar conclusions then.
thanks for your response. i read what you wrote back in 2007. it was well-written. however, it's done nothing to alleviate my concerns, you've only reinforced them.
i only disagree with what you wrote at the end; that now is "not the time to entertain conspiracy theories."
anyone interested in getting to the bottom of a scheme conjured up by more than one person HAS to think like a conspiracy theorist. it's the modus operandi for every FBI agent and/or police detective in america.
it's amazing to me how you are so quick to discount all conspiracy theories, especially after what we've seen over the last 8 years.
my family was in nazi germany when the $#!+ hit the fan, and one thing my relatives always tell me -they didn't know. the average citizen didn't know just how evil the nazis really were. they didn't know about the concentration camps; they didn't know the reichstag fire was a "false flag" style attack.
i see a lot of these things going on right here, right now. i also see a lot of folks in denial, even in the face of empirical evidence. it's like some people think the dorothy method really works: all you have to do is say something 3 times and click your heels, and it becomes reality.
to deny that elements of the the u.s. gov't are incapable of setting up camps to detain dissenters, or to stage a false-flag attack, given that history shows us both have already happened before... i consider that a form of hubris as bad as any neocon's hubris.
i don't see things in the simple left-right struggle that you do, neiwert. i don't mean to sound condescending, and i have genuinely come to appreciate your writing.
it's just that, while i certainly am left of center, i also see a global oligarchy that doesn't really care about small political issues, as long as banks have their way, and as long as they have their wars. this is much of what aaron russo was trying to explain, before he died.
to the CFR, bilderberg, the tri-lateral commission (organizations obama's entire cabinet belongs to -look it up) we can squabble left/right as long as we like, just don't mess with the banks, and let them keep the m-i-c gears grinding.
don't believe me? well, do you read the headlines? bank bailouts, more war in afghanistan, more protection for illegal wiretappers, immunity for torturers, the beat goes on...
at least we got "lilly leadbetter" though, right?
half the stories on that list are pure loony tunes and the other half are merely gross distortions loosely based on minimal facts. You can generally save yourself a lot of time when confronted with such a list by quickly scanning it for 911 truther stories and/or FEMA camp stories. It is always possible to find a diamond in such a dunghill but it is not likely.
links please? or are all those censored stories untrue, simply because you say so?
and you believe every part of the 9/11 report, even though thomas keane and lee hamilton have both told you in plain english it was SET-UP TO FAIL?
not to get this on a 9/11 tangent; it's just very rare that i encounter someone anymore who believes every word of the "official report".
Say, speaking of government, where the hell is homeland security and those Predator drones? If there is such a HUGE terror threat worldwide, as even admitted by Obama, then why this?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30082842
Three? Three? 3??? He flew a plane across the border and into 3 states!!!
as the next Mexican/American War brews up.
NORAD said the states were really small.
But they can't disclose which ones they were or it might help the terrorists.
Just chock that one up to a "Failure of Imagination"
again.
He was not acting aggressive (which would have gotten him shot down). CTV had him landing in Missouri, not WI.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/C...
All that said, this was totally from bizarro land. I can't wait to see the final report on it.
final report. He was of Turkish descent, so there is the Al Qaeda
speculation that needs starting. The fact that the plane belonged to a Candaian college offers the opportunity to probe the need for concealed carry laws north of our border. Was he headed to Branson, Mo. to get Wayne Newton? What is the fascination between suicide and Cessna?
He was intercepted almost immediately. Now Mathias Rust penetrating the most heavily defended air space in the world and landing in Red Square was something else.
Oh pity us all; if Glenn Beck had been around in the 40's in Germany; he could have saved all the Jews from the Nazi's.....
Everynight, before I put my children to sleep, I tell them the story of the FEMA camp fairies, and how if they put their assault rifles under their pillows, they will disappear by sunrise.
The F camp fairies or your children?
The assault rifles. The FEMA fairies come and take away my children's assault rifles.
That is a good reason to always keep one or two hidden under the floorboards (assault rifle).
finger on a trigger while you sleep.
everyone around you quakes in terror waiting for the voices in your head to give their final instructions.
broadcasting the instructions. You mean soime of these thoughts are internal?
Beck sometimes makes sense when he's on his meds.
I wonder if what really happened is that Beck got himself in some real trouble with the NSA or FBI-- by spreading this false info. And his change of heart is more related to getting himself out of hot water than a real change of heart.
And remember, just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they are not after you!
Officer Jack McLamb Exposes FEMA Death Camp(05:53)
→ → →[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NzlMtx6PGE ]
If you ever do something wrong, people can go through all your posts and pick out this one and say .... "the deranged liberal blog follower, who posted as Truth-Critic" actually once linked to Ron Paul rallies."
could you extrapolate?
Amended: Did I strike a nerve... ricky?
is this any better?
Glenn Beck"Just Another Agent For The NWO!!"
→ → →[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7dmh7RWNxM ]
Just pointing out that even when you link to something you are either critical of or poking fun at, those with an agenda will note the fact that you linked there as proof you were influenced by whatever is found on that link.
I think it's hillarious that the RW is latching onto this. Nutjob Beck's only instance of actual journalism won't change their minds, IMO.
Although I'm stating the obvious
becks mea culpa has less to do with C&L (in his eyes),
Than shamitty making fun o'him.
Civilan inmate labor camp program.
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf
To direct the Secretary of Homeland Security to establish national emergency centers on military installations.
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/gpoxmlc111/h645_ih...
(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;
(1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;
According to Moshe Lifshitz[8], the Nazi camps divided as follows:
Labour camps: concentration camps where interned inmates had to do hard physical labour under inhuman conditions and cruel treatment. Some of these camps were sub-camps of bigger camps, or "operational camps", established for a temporary need.
Transit and collection camps: camps where inmates were collected and routed to main camps, or temporarily held.
POW camps: concentration camps where prisoners of war were held after capture. These POW's endured torture and liquidation on a large scale.
Camps for rehabilitation and re-education of Poles: Camps where the intelligentsia of the ethnic Poles were held, and re-educated in light of German-Nazi values as slaves.
Hostage camps: camps where hostages were held and killed as reprisals.
Extermination camps: These camps differed from the rest, since not all of them were also concentration-camps. Although none of the categories is independent, and each camp could be classified as a mixture of several of the above, and all camps had some of the elements of an extermination camp, still systematic extermination of new-arrivals occurred in very specific camps. Of these, three were extermination camps, where all new-arrivals were simply killed -- The "Reinhardt Aktion" camps. Three others were concentration and extermination camps altogether. Others were at times classified as "minor extermination camps."
Glenn Beck was debunking something that even conspiracy theorists had even debunked. Glenn you don't get a cookie.
its nice to see people actually reading, rather than making blanket statements and insults.
Ok, I am confused? FEMA camps do or don't exist? Army War collage prepares for civil unrest without concentration camps readily available? Nobody is going nutz on April 15th? Whateva.
Glenn Beck even said that they have camps in the video but he poo poos it by saying that they have to go through millions of steps.
No its through Presidential Decision Directive 51.
The National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive (National Security Presidential Directive NSPD 51/Homeland Security Presidential Directive HSPD-20, sometimes called simply "Executive Directive 51" for short), created and signed by United States President George W. Bush on May 4, 2007, is a Presidential Directive which claims power to execute procedures for continuity of the federal government in the event of a "catastrophic emergency". Such an emergency is construed as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions." [1]
The unclassified portion of the directive was posted on the White House website on May 9, 2007, without any further announcement or press briefings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Securit...
I'm sure beck had to do a lot of bunking and debunking at Cub Scout camp.
May've been all his pooping.
in this country, even 48 years later, have not been brought to a conclusion and a lot of that stuff was still boiling in 1992-93 and is now boiling over today.
Glenn, although I have no fondness for the likes of those who watch your show, unlike you, I sincerely doubt they are singularly and directly responsible for the death of innocents.
Collectively, yes. But, not singularly and directly. You however, are. You shout fire in a crowed theater without fact or reason and without concern for the welfare of those who are injured or worse in the melee. You willingly and wantonly throw gasoline on the flames of hatred feeding the uncontrolled mental instability of those who you know will one day do your dirty work but for which you will never take responsibility. "It wasn't ME!" you shout from your media pulpit.
How do you look yourself in the mirror, Glenn? Your behavior smacks of a very pathetic little boy who got rotten toilet training. I'll bet real money that you wet the bed until you were at least 14, lit fires and abused animals too. Now, you're a highly paid bully but you're still pathetic.
Looking at other posts of the Beckster on C&L as well, it's becoming obvious:
Glenn Beck is pulling a reverse ferret!!! LOL!!!
http://www.slate.com/id/2204826/
The guy from Popular Mechanics who likes to discount conpiracy theories about FEMA and 9/11 is related to Michael Chertoff, George Bushes rightwing neocon political appointee who headed The Department of Homeland Security. This is the department that is in charge of FEMA.
C&L could'nt posibly discern anything odd about this could they? I mean when I want to find out about which conspiracy theory I have questions about I don't hesistate to pick up a Popular mechanics the popular journal of current political affairs. Would you?
Obama defends wiretapping.
Obama spends trillions on bank fraudsters
Obama still keeping torture prisons in Iraq and Afghanistan open.
Obama's health care plan isn't
obama refuses to investigate and prosecute Bush corruption and war crimes.
C&L continues to have head where sun don't shine.
He's desperately trying to cover his ass for Poplawski posting his bullshit to Stormfront and YouTube.
Give me a break, their 9/11 "debunking" is soooooo full of holes it may as well be swiss cheese.
That was a sad attempt at misdirection and did not get to the matter at hand. The fact is that laws are set and plans are ready to implement martial law and open the gates of military bases and newly constructed Haliburton FEMA detention centers. Avian Flu will be released and then will see who is right.
Debunk this Mr. Miegs.
Civilian Inmate Labor Program - Direct DOD link.
http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.p...
Haliburton awarded 385 million to build detention camps in 2005.
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.a...
Bird Flu (Bioweopon) Pandemic theory. Chicago preparing for mass graves. An Indiana county municipal official describes FEMA questioning into sites for mass graves. Audio included.
http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/02/11/ins...
Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries care of Baxter International Pharmaceuticals.
http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html
Indonesia accuses US of bird flu plot
Sydney Morning Herald - Baxter may be one of the laboratories described in this article.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/indonesia-ac...
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THIS PETITION SEEKS TO ABOLISH ALL PRIVATE PRISONS IN THE UNITED STATES, (or any place subject to its jurisdiction)
The National Public Service Council To Abolish Private Prisons (NPSCTAPP) is a grass roots organization driven by a single objective. We want the United States government to reclaim sole authority for state and federal prisons on US soil.
We want the United States Congress to immediately rescind all state and federal contracts that permit private prisons “for profit” to exist in the United States, or any place subject to its jurisdiction. We understand that the problems that currently plague our government, its criminal justice system and in particular, the state & federal bureau of prisons (and most correctional and rehabilitation facilities) are massive. However, it is our solemn belief that the solutions for prison reform will remain unattainable and virtually impossible as long as private prisons for profit are permitted to operate in America.
Prior to the past month, and the fiasco of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, AIG, Lehman Brothers, and now the “Big Three” American Automobile manufacturers, the NPSCTAPP has always felt compelled to highlight the “moral Bottom line” when it comes to corrections and privatization. Although, we remain confounded by the reality that our government has allowed our justice system to be operated by private interests. The NPSCTAPP philosophy has always been “justice” should not be for sale at any price. It is our belief that the inherent and most fundamental responsibility of the criminal justice system should not be shirked, or “jobbed-out.” This is not the same as privatizing the post office or some trash pick up service in the community. There has to be a loss of meaning and purpose when an inmate looks at a guard’s uniform and instead of seeing an emblem that reads State Department of Corrections or Federal Bureau of Prisons, he sees one that says: “Atlas Prison Corporation.”
Let’s assume that the real danger of privatization is not some innate inhumanity on the part of its practitioners but rather the added financial incentives that reward inhumanity. The same logic that motivates companies to operate prisons more efficiently also encourages them to cut corners at the expense of workers, prisoners and the public. Every penny they do not spend on food, medical care or training for guards is a dime they can pocket. What happens when the pennies pocketed are not enough for the shareholders? Who will bailout the private prison industry when they hold the government and the American people hostage with the threat of financial failure…“bankruptcy?” What was unimaginable a month ago merits serious consideration today. State and Federal prison programs originate from government design, and therefore, need to be maintained by the government. It’s time to restore the principles and the vacated promise of our judicial system.
John F. Kennedy said, “The time to repair the roof is while the sun is shinning”. Well the sun may not be shinning but, it’s not a bad time to begin repair on a dangerous roof that is certain to fall…. because, “Incarcerating people for profit is, in a word WRONG”
There is an urgent need for the good people of this country to emerge from the shadows of cynicism, indifference, apathy and those other dark places that we migrate to when we are overwhelmed by frustration and the loss of hope.
It is our hope that you will support the NPSCTAPP with a show of solidarity by signing our petition. We intend to assemble a collection of one million signatures, which will subsequently be attached to a proposition for consideration. This proposition will be presented to both, the Speaker Of The House Of Representatives (Nancy Pelosi) and the United States Congress.
Please Help Us. We Need Your Support. Help Us Spread The Word About This Monumental And Courageous Challenge To Create Positive Change. Place The Link To The Petition On Your Website! Pass It On!
The SINGLE VOICE PETITION and the effort to abolish private “for profit” prisons is the sole intent of NPSCTAPP. Our project does not contain any additional agendas. We have no solutions or suggestions regarding prison reform. However, we are unyielding in our belief that the answers to the many problems which currently plague this nation’s criminal justice system and its penal system in particular, cannot and will not be found within or assisted by the private “for profit” prison business. The private “for profit” prison business has a stranglehold on our criminal justice system. Its vice-like grip continues to choke the possibility of justice, fairness, and responsibility from both state and federal systems.
These new slave plantations are not the answer!
For more information please visit: http://www.npsctapp.blogsppot.com or email: williamthomas@exconciliation.com
To sign the petition please visit: http://www.petitiononline.com/gufree2/petitio...
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT!
William Thomas
National Community Outreach Facilitator
The National Public Service Council To Abolish Private Prisons
P.O. Box 156423
San Francisco, California 94115
If he thinks that this idiot debunked the theory.
And I sure as heck ain't no right-winger.
WTF is wrong with you ppl?
Im not a fan of any politician, or any specific media personality, nor do i believe there are without a doubt concentration camps..
you people are friggin spooky,blind and not by accident,seems most want to be fooled for some reason, because uncovering truth might be to uncomfortable for us..Ack! good luck livin with yourself in that.
I watched glen beck off and on for a year or so..not anymore though after the debunking thing..not because he didnt prove something but because i felt like he was treating people like the idiots most of us wanna be treated like.some guy also posted here that the hate monger right wings said obama was elected because he was a good talker..wow..are you really that lost? he had his own tv channel..24 hrs a day 7 days a week..were all gonna finally realize what we had
the second we lose it
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