Glenn Beck blames CrooksandLiars and Kos for pointing out his role in the Pittsburgh shootings
By John Amato Monday Apr 06, 2009 6:24pm
(Very big file: 30 mgs)(Youtube)
(Jed Lewison has the video too and writes: Beck: Daily Kos, C&L blame me for cop killer. Because it’s all about him, right? How self-absorbed can one man possibly be?)
As soon as we posted information about the Pittsburgh execution of three police officers and did a little digging into the type of person Poplawski is, I knew the right wingers would immediately cry foul and say we're trying to silence their opinions and blaming them for the tragedy. Isn't that always the case? Any form of criticism sets off a whinefest.
Free speech is a wonderful thing, but sometimes our words do have consequences. The insane rhetoric that comes out of the mouths of mainstream right-wing talkers is having an effect on the fringe element of the hard right.
When Sarah Palin tells a national audience that Obama hangs out with terrorists, that is fed directly into the arteries of the Patriot movement's militia cells. Obama is a Muslim terrorist lover who hates America, is a spy for al-Qaeda and isn't an American citizen -- all that garbage quickly followed on its heels. Did you hear that kind of treatment of John McCain?
In any event, Glenn Beck says we're blaming him for the shootings and Noel Sheppard heartily agrees:
Beck: Blaming anyone except the nut job for what happened in Pittsburgh is crazy. Police officers over the weekend were killed by a crazy with a gun and blaming anybody else besides him is like blaming the flight attendant after a terrorist takes down a plane. Giving passengers a nice little safety talk to prepare them doesn't mean your responsible should a terrorist actually make that worst case scenario happen. One person is providing who would have acted that way no matter what.
Bloggers rushed to paint this killer as a conservative, presumably one who is clinging to his God and his guns.
Actually, we didn't paint him as a "conservative," we called him a "right-winger" -- which he is. It turned out he was an extreme right-winger, but the description was accurate.
Now, notice how Beck uses 9/11 as his defense? We do agree on that fact that the man was a crazy person, but flight attendants don't get involved in fearmongering and scapegoating and have a megaphone that reaches millions of people a day. They don't call Obama and liberals "socialists" and "fascists" who want to take your guns away, either. They don't spread cockamamie stories intended to drive up the fearfulness quotient in the populace.
And when right wingers talk about the insane possibility that an "upcoming revolution" is on the way -- that isn't preparing America for anything except more acts of violence by crazy people, Glenn. Michelle Bachmann is sitting in Congress telling Americans that she's a foreign correspondent on enemy lines. Watch out for those re-education camps for young people too. Oh, and let's not forget about the nonexistent "global currency" both Bachmann and Beck believe is going to be forced upon us. Meanwhile, Bill O'Reilly goes on the air and informs millions that Obama is selling us out to a One World Government.
I doubt you'll see Beck invite somebody on who would be able to counter his argument -- although it might give him a chance to shed a few more tears for the camera to show us how much he cares for America. He does think the 9/11 widows are whiners, but that doesn't count to his fans. I didn't see him crying for the families of the three police officers who had their families ripped apart by this weekend's violence.
Beck: Civil unrest for a number of reasons is coming. Lone nut jobs and people who are just angry and frustrated and have had enough. You've got to seek those people out. You've got to start asking people in your own neighborhood, "How are you?" And actually care about the answer.
... Is this what these bloggers think what conservatives are when they say, "Oh yeah, he's a Nazi isn't he. He's a conservative?" Is that really who they think we are?
Noel Sheppard: The incident actually happened probably somewhere around eleven O'clock, eleven thirty eastern time, and by oh, I guess two o'clock eastern time, a gentleman had clipped a FOX News report -- FOX had reported that a friend of the assailant apparently was worried about his gun rights because of Obama, so a liberal blog took a piece of this video and posted it at a very, very popular liberal website called CrooksandLiars, and now the game was on and every liberal blogger was linking to his post. What was kind of interesting is in the piece the blogger mentioned, Where do you think this killer got the idea from?, and in that sentence is a link to an article about you interviewing Wayne LaPierre, the NRA head.
Beck: Acchk...Wow,
Sheppard: So that's where this all started.
Beck: They're not offended, all the want to do is to do anything they can to discredit not just people like me, but the people who watch people like me. We are allll dangerous. This has nothing to do with Barack Obama.
Thanks Noel for at least crediting C&L with doing our homework and breaking the story. By the way, they should ask Bill O'Reilly about his use of the word Nazi and why he calls Kos and other left-wingers Nazis and a "hate group". For all their denials, the militia patriot right is indeed voting Republican and became part of the conservative movement after Pat Buchanan ran for President on the Reform Party ticket (which comprised the David Dukes of the right along with Ross Perot-style "independents") in 2000, but when he added an African American women to the ticket they rebelled -- ran from the party and voted Republican.
And notice how Beck mocks President Obama with his little doll? It's another way to dehumanize him and turn him into a caricature. I don't think Beck paraded around with a cute little doll of George Bush and Dick Cheney.
At the end of his segment they are both lamenting the thought that lefties will blame them for violent actions and once again we will silence them.
Sheppard: We'll they're the NY Times and they are allowed to say what ever they want, buy you're a conservative; you're not allowed to say what you want.
Beck: And I don't want to blow this out of proportion, but I am allowed to say what I want, but let's, you don't honor freedom of speech by shutting one side down or the other. Everybody can say what they want.
Once again, we're not trying to shut conservatives down. Actually, the more they speak, the better it is for America, because they are exposed as crazy people. But they should understand the impact their words do have on the "nutjobs" of America.
Beck included a long rant about how "freedoms" always entail "responsibilities" -- and we heartily agree. But he forgot to mention freedom of speech and the responsibilities that come with that. Those responsibilities include not using words that scapegoat and incite fearfulness in the public, especially when there is no actual evidence to support those fears. Those responsibilities are magnified a thousandfold when you hold a major media megaphone like Glenn Beck does.
By the way, the hate mail I've been receiving ever since Barack Obama was elected has become really scary and nuttier than ever. I won't post the lynching pictures I received, but now it's getting more violent.








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where would beck be if it weren't for 9-11? maybe working the rodeo circuit.
This IS NOT about the 1st amendment. These people ARE CRIMINALLY CULPABLE!!
If this were Rwanda or Bosnia and there were people on the radio mobilizing people to kill their neighbors or hack people to death C&L would be the FIRST to condemn the HATEMONGERS as CRIMINALS!
If there were people on a street corner egging someone on to beat someone to death, those people would be charged with accessory to a crime, if not worse.
This is the same shit. It is NOT 1st amendment. Beck, Hannity et al are baiting domestic terrorists.
They are not simply morally, ethically and civilly culpable. They are CRIMINALS!
WAKE UP AMERICA! IT CAN HAPPEN HERE TOO!
Watch the film "Shake hands with the devil" or read the book. It was the day-in-day-out alarmist propaganda coming from (guess what, Glenn) THE RADIO, that lit the fuse to the genocide in that country. The day-in-day-out drumbeat of "They are different, they are destroying us, they are coming to get us."
The only point I'd like to differ on is, IT IS HAPPENING HERE.
Read the church-shooter's manifesto. It sounds like a Glenn Beck show, without the theatrics. AMERICANS ARE KILLING AMERICANS BECAUSE OF THE PROPAGANDA THEY ARE BEING BOMBARDED WITH.
they don't believe their own propaganda. They are so cynical they are only doing it for the ratings and the time they know advertizers will buy. They don't care if they drive our country into violence, and perhaps even civil war.
I propose that we BOYCOTT THE ADVERTIZERS THAT BUY COMMERCIAL TIME ON THE FOLLOWING SHOWS:
BLACK LIST:
Here's a start - a list of advertizers for The Factor
http://www.oreilly-sucks.com/sponsor-boycott-...
I'm in. lets get that list somehow? I got server space.
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Walgreens Media Relations
Mary Shultz, Walgreens Manager, Broadcast Media: 847-914-2961
200 Wilmot Road
Deerfield, IL 60015
(847) 914-2500
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Lexmark x2 859-232-2221
Director of Corporate Communications – Lexmark
Tim Fitzpatrick
tfitzpat@lexmark.com
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Liberty Mutual 617-357-9500
John Cusolito, Vice President, Corporate Communications – Liberty Mutual
Phone: 617-574-5512
Email: john.cusolito@libertymutual.com
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Yellowbook 1-800-YB-YELLOW
http://www.yellowbook.com/contactus…
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Lazyboy
http://www.la-z-boy.com/contactus/
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Lending Tree 800-555-8733
Allison Vail - Manager of Corporate Communications – Lending Tree
704-943-8339
allison.vail@lendingtree.com
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Edward Jones 314-515-3269
John Boul, Manager of Global Media Relations of Edward Jones
(314) 515-3265
E-mail: john.boul@edwardjones.com
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Hyundai 800-633-5151
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Direct Buy 800-988-6049
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AARP 800-852-0879
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Schwab Bank 866-855-9102
415-636-5454 Speak to Glen Mathison or Greg Gable
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Legalzoom 323-962-8600 or 800-773-0888
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Joesph A Bank Clothiers (JoB Clothiers) x2 1-800-999-7472
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American Express x3 877-890-2639
212-640-5951 Speak to Mike O’Neal
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Cialis (Lilly Corp) x2 1-877-242-5471
317-276-2000
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Honda 800-999-1009, 310-783-2000
Ann Hartl, person in charge of advertising
“she wants to hear from us”
E-mail: ann_hartl@ahm.honda.com
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Volvo
Marriot
U.S. Trust (part of Bank of America)
Verizon
Geico
Lunesta
Garmin
Bayer
LL Bean
TD Ameritrade
Progressive
Americaspower.org (some Coal lobbyist group)
Lincoln
Farmer’s
Glass Doctor
http://www.lilly.com
http://www.ustrust.com
http://newscenter.verizon.com
http://www.geico.com
http://automobiles.honda.com
http://www.lunesta.com
http://www.garmin.com
http://www.schwabbank.com
http://www.josbank.com
https://secure.bayer.com
http://www10.americanexpress.com
http://www.llbean.com
http://www.tdameritrade.com
https://www.progressive.com
http://www.americaspower.org
http://www.lincoln.com
http://www.farmers.com
http://www.glassdoctor.com
http://www.walgreens.com
Here is a list of the sponsors of Glen Beck. he is inciting hate and violence in America.
It's time to let his sponsors know we will not tolerate or support the sponsors of those
who are engaged in bigotry, racism and hatred against President Obama or any
American citizens.
BOYCOTT GLENN BECK SPONSORS
Mon, 04/06/2009 - 21:28 — Real Citizen
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Walgreens Media Relations
Mary Shultz, Walgreens Manager, Broadcast Media: 847-914-2961
200 Wilmot Road
Deerfield, IL 60015
(847) 914-2500
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Lexmark x2 859-232-2221
Director of Corporate Communications – Lexmark
Tim Fitzpatrick
tfitzpat@lexmark.com
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Liberty Mutual 617-357-9500
John Cusolito, Vice President, Corporate Communications – Liberty Mutual
Phone: 617-574-5512
Email: john.cusolito@libertymutual.com
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Yellowbook 1-800-YB-YELLOW
http://www.yellowbook.com/contactus…
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Lazyboy
http://www.la-z-boy.com/contactus/
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Lending Tree 800-555-8733
Allison Vail - Manager of Corporate Communications – Lending Tree
704-943-8339
allison.vail@lendingtree.com
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Edward Jones 314-515-3269
John Boul, Manager of Global Media Relations of Edward Jones
(314) 515-3265
E-mail: john.boul@edwardjones.com
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Hyundai 800-633-5151
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Direct Buy 800-988-6049
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AARP 800-852-0879
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Schwab Bank 866-855-9102
415-636-5454 Speak to Glen Mathison or Greg Gable
—————————————————————-
Legalzoom 323-962-8600 or 800-773-0888
—————————————————————-
Joesph A Bank Clothiers (JoB Clothiers) x2 1-800-999-7472
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American Express x3 877-890-2639
212-640-5951 Speak to Mike O’Neal
—————————————————————-
Cialis (Lilly Corp) x2 1-877-242-5471
317-276-2000
—————————————————————-
Honda 800-999-1009, 310-783-2000
Ann Hartl, person in charge of advertising
“she wants to hear from us”
E-mail: ann_hartl@ahm.honda.com
—————————————————————-
Volvo
Marriot
U.S. Trust (part of Bank of America)
Verizon
Geico
Lunesta
Garmin
Bayer
LL Bean
TD Ameritrade
Progressive
Americaspower.org (some Coal lobbyist group)
Lincoln
Farmer’s
Glass Doctor
http://www.lilly.com
http://www.ustrust.com
http://newscenter.verizon.com
http://www.geico.com
http://automobiles.honda.com
http://www.lunesta.com
http://www.garmin.com
http://www.schwabbank.com
http://www.josbank.com
https://secure.bayer.com
http://www10.americanexpress.com
http://www.llbean.com
http://www.tdameritrade.com
https://www.progressive.com
http://www.americaspower.org
http://www.lincoln.com
http://www.farmers.com
http://www.glassdoctor.com
http://www.walgreens.com
I'll be writing some serious letters.
I forwarded that list to everyone in address book.
this is helpful and quite an extensive list btw. there likely isn't a person who doesn't interact with some of these sponsors. thanks again for some great work.
I've made a couple of calls already.. I found Edward Jones especially troubling..My mother left me some inheritance which they manage. I've known they give to conservative causes here in MO with which I strongly disagree but I hadn't known that they supported Glenn Beck too..
I hope that's how you spell
So Glenn, how many radical LEFT wingers have gone on shooting rampages, or attempted to?
Why so upset?
Protesting too much?
I think so!
With their continual hammering of William Ayres, who never killed ANYONE, and his flimsy connections to Obama. I think the American people can tell which movement is more dangerous, left or right, especially when police officers sworn to uphold the law are killed in the performance of their duties by right-wing nuts.
"We're heading to a socialist totalitarian country"
Right, sure thing Glennis Beckass.
I can't tell who's more batshit crazy. Bachmann or Glennis.
I guess he thinks we're going to turn into North Korea.
the action figures? Is this moron regressing live on TV? This clown's off his meds.
My guess is that the more absurd and offensive he gets. The better his ratings. The more money he makes. He really doesn't care about this country. He only cares about how much money he can make off of it.
Tried and true GOPer.
It's astonishingly difficult to believe but Grace Jones explains it well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgMn2OJmx3w&fe...
But I just can't fathom how anyone can sit through this guy's stupidity. I tried and couldn't last more than about 3 minutes. He reminds me of the junior high school smart ass who tries to take his act to high school and gets the shit beat out of him. Which, on second thought is not such a bad idea for this goofball.
I said MONTHS ago that Beck was for YEARS simply looking for a "shtick" to get on the glass teat, and he has succeeded in the one place he could: Fox News. We saw him try different approaches and they failed. "Why not go bat-shit crazy?" says Glenn. "That will get me a gig." And so it came to be.
Beck is a wad, plain and simple, but now he can live in the FN gated community with the rest of the traitors to America. John, where the HELL is our Instant Karma? It's way overdue my friend.
It reminds me of the Limbaugh TV clip with the N.O.W. woman as a Mrs. Potato head......
It's perfectly to call liberals and left leaning people traitors, commies, socialists, America haters, Fascists, Maxists, etc. but by God don't blame the gunman for going on the shooting rampage er I mean freedom rampage. Did Glen cry on this piece?
Faux has officially lost the plot.
http://pbh2.blogspot.com/2007/07/fox-news-is-...
Brian 'carboom' Kilmeade and the other bimbos calling a kids entertainer evil, Faux are truly f'morons.
and a big mistake, Mr. Rogers would be totally unknown to anybody under 40. Modern kids grew up on corporate violence, generally cartoons and action shows peddled by filth merchants like Faux.
This is the 'evil' of Mr. Rogers !!!!! read and despair at Faux.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Rogers
That 1st link kicks ass.
There should be a thread on that one.
I remember when he went to the graham cracker factory and when he went to the Crayola factory. It was cool. Though he was an avuncular figure, you would never call him Fred.
it's Fox News.
its been a long four months, I recommend a long vacation.
Did anyone else get it?
[Thanks. I emailed them-Sitemonitor]
But I'm still waiting for it to play.
Not that I wanted to watch it anyway. I don't. You just got my curiosity up.......errrr.....ummmm going.
You crack me up!!
I usually don't post a 30 mg file.
playing as scheduled.
about people being pushed into a wall?
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/12/beck-shoo...
Every day, they just get nuttier.
Beck and Co. are throwing fuel on the fire. But when someone sees them with the gas, they throw it away and pretend it wasn't their fault.
"Sure I said it, but I didn't say do it." Arrest them all.
They just piss me off, and make me want to smash things.
I think a nice phone call from the FBI would shut Beck's filthy gobhole in a hurry. These people have no shame.
The FBI has a lot of phone calling to do. Beck is definitely up on the list but he's far from being the only one.
they are too busy investimagating all those liberal violent extremists... Oh, wait...
Funny, how it is always liberals getting showered with bullets (Ghandi, RFK, JFK, MLK, etc, etc) and yet we are the "violent" ones to watch out.
The projection capabilities of conservatives never stop to astound me....
I'm thinking they are working on it.
should have a friendly chat with Murdoch, who is the PuppetMaster of Beck, O'R, Hannity, and quite likely M. Bachmann too. He OWNS them; they're his trained monkeys throwing more and more feces through our TV screens. And it sticks.
Hey Glenn: Take your medicine and The Voices will probably quiet down. Better make it a double dose, just to be sure.
And C&L? You got this little weasel's attention. HA!!!
O'Reilly, Coulter, Malkin, Hannity they are all awful but this guy is the toughest to watch. He's just horrible. He's an idiot, immature, a clown, a dumb ass, reactionary and just plain embarrassing to watch as he makes a constant fool and ass of himself. His parents must be trying to figure out how they can have a really late term abortion.
WAAAA, WAAAA! The mean liberals are being mean to me, they keep pointing out all of my lies. Boo, hoo.
Hey Beck, cry me a river why dont ya.
"Police officers over the weekend were killed by a crazy with a gun"
Pretty sure that "crazy" guy didn't ever vote liberal!
Late,
QSE32
Never it's always a conspiracy to hurt them. Yet they have no problem blaming Liberals or even other conservative if they do something they dislike. I know I’m not the only one that remembers the big fake outrage when that reporter after the fact reported on what the company of solider he was assigned to did that day? The whole “he's telling the enemy our moves” and “he’s trying to kill soldiers“, the whole fake outrage as another attempt to ban reporter from the battlefield.
God they make me sick is there any depth of hypocrisy they are not willing to reach?
republi-con conspiracy is, that despite the fact that the repugs controlled the House and the Senate since 1995, and have (until Obama) controlled the White House for 20 of 28 years, that somehow the "liberals" are in control. They have a secret undisclosed location (next to Cheney's bunker?) where they pull the levers of governmental power despite the best, patriotic, efforts of the God-fearing, Republican, Christian conservatives.
A guy who trashes 9/11 widows is invoking 9/11 again as a defense. Great.
Beck's just like most conservative "personalities" - like Ann Coulter, they want credit for saying outrageous or provocative things, but they don't to be held accountable for anything they say. It's dishonest and gutless.
"...they want credit for saying outrageous or provocative things, but they don't to be held accountable for anything they say..."
I couldn't have said it any better.
Why hasn't a republican ever been asassinated in the last 45 years?
Because most nuts with guns are conservatives. They don't shoot one of their own.
Lets not go there. OK?
That one mentally unhinged guy tried to get Reagan.
And someone took a crack at Ford too.
..Reagan survived and his stature (among the faithful) was enhanced and Ford was untouched.
There's that old Bill Hicks routine from the early 90s about this very question:
"Why is it only the good people get murdered? Gandhi: Murdered. Martin Luther King: Murdered. Kennedy: Murdered. Reagan: Wounded."
or people who try to be & do good (Liberals) don't go around killing others. People filled with fear, rage and hate, do.
What I can't figure out is why these instigators like Beck aren't being sued along the same lines the SPLC did to the Klan a few years back. Wouldn't the same principles apply?
... Is this what these bloggers think what conservatives are when they say, "Oh yeah, he's a Nazi isn't he. He's a conservative?" Is that really who they think we are?
Uh - Yes
Lol, Yes Fox is Nazi channel, haha.
Yes Glenn Beck and Michele Bachmann love this crap. They are aching for a revolution but they have no idea what it will actually look like. When the likes of Beck and Buchmann and Hannity and O'Reilly talk about this crap all it does is put the ideas in these wacko's minds that it is ok to do it. This asshole in Pittsburgh is sitting in a jail cell without his beloved gun thinking he is a martyr because he watches Fox News and this is what he thinks that Fox wanted him to do.
...but, what kind of bird did Beck call for? Your story says he cried 'fowl'. That's a bird. Beck is foul, palin and simple.
Michelle Bachmann and all the rest will reap what they sow. I'm a true believer in the dangers that they speak of will come at them and/or somebody close to them. That's what I was taught when I was a kid, and that's been many, many (many) years ago.
But they will be the first ones to run away from their remarks, the cowards that they are.
When the shooting starts, they'll be long gone
and I have tried to heed ever since-- you dig a ditch for somebody else, you will fall in it yourself. These people are damned scary and like someone said, they want a revoloution but have no idea what it will look and be like. Right-wing people are truly fucked up. If I ever decided to move back to the USA, I would be armed, make no mistake about it. This has chilling echoes of Rwanda.
What I can't understand is WHY? would a television network put Glenn Beck in front of a camera. He brings nothing. He is stupid. Very stupid. Fox news is as responsible as Glenn Beck. I hope these cops sue them both and the next time an O'Dickbreath fan or a Hannity clone or a Dick Morris toe sucking mini me goes out and tries to shoot em up I hope Fox News gets sued again. DEEEEEP Pockets!!!
Someone has to file a lawsuit against Faux for this hysteria.
Fox puts Beck on TV because they can't put porn on TV.
If bestiality or kiddie porn made them the most money, that's what they'd show 24/7.
Just like the crazy guy on the corner yelling that aliens are coming gets people to look, so does Beck. And the thing is, a lot of people will believe the crazy guy. Particularly when he's got tens of millions watching.
You're consistantly brave and very accurate.
Thank you for your journalism.
I totally agree.
David's book is awesome by the way. When you mention Tim McVeigh to them, they freak out.
and congratulations to David!
Like a fly in a spiders web, or a peanut brained brontosaurus trapped in a tar pit...
The more they try to justify their fear based paradigm, the more they leave open for certain doom.
What the FUCK does Barrack have to do about what has been happening with these right wing nut bags who keep going unhinged and shooting up churches, trailerparks and police coming to a domestic disturbance call...
There is NO gun grab...
Nor would there be.. I think Obama's Jujitsu is too strong...
He is not, and neither should we.. Allow right wing freak shows like YOU glenn beck.. to have any solid, tangible ground under your feet...
No matter how many of your sycophantic believers start firing guns in a bloody senseless tantrum...
So shouting that "you're afraid for your country" and "Obama's coming to take our guns" and "the Nazis are coming" and "the commies are coming" is akin to being a flight attendant explaining safety regulations? Uhhh, right...
To follow through with your analogy, you're more like the flight attendant screaming, "THE PERSON SITTING NEXT TO YOU IS A TERRORIST!!! YOU'VE GOT TO STOP THEM!!!"
On a video with O'Reilly, he defends someone snapping and going on a murder spree, so if I'm being unfair, let me quote him while talking about this guy: "...but as I'm listening to him, I'm thinking about the American people that feel desinfranchised right now, that feel like nobody is hearing their voices. The government is not hearing their voices, even if you call they don't listen to you on both sides. If you are a conservative you are called a racist, you want to starve children, yada yada yada...There, every time they do speak out, they are shut down by political correctness. How do you not have those people turn into that guy?" Enters O'Reilly saying that such act can only be commited by someone mentally ill, and Beck interrupts "If you push them to the wall, don't you think you get ahhh...?"
I think he made the case against himself, of course he is somewhat responsible for this guy, and also justification of his murdering rampage.And Beck is the one calling him a racist, not us
No one is being called a racist or child starver. Certain people put the idea into unlearned peoples' minds, and continually reinforce the idea.
These insecure idiots need an enemy, that is their deepest character flaw. It's as if having a boogy man gives their miserable lives meaning. Whether it's communists, fascists, liberals, hippies, on, and on. Conservatism is a mental illness. There is no boogy man, these rethugs are projecting their own neanderthal hostile tendencies on the world and it needs to stop.
distort and distract. c&l, kos, etc, are portrayed as extreme and so it's all ok in a false equivalency-y sort of way. (ie, with distorted false equivalency, it comes across that beck isn't doing anything the "other side" isn't doing, too)
agree that beck et al are engaged in hate speech, the sort seen in rwanda and throughout the ages that desensitized, dehumanized and agitated for violence and mayhem. nice legacy, guy (and your corporate masters, too). how can this be ok? what's the payoff?? what's the end game, here?
ps, imho, followers of beck and his ilk do need to hear that mcvey and others were terrorists and extremists ... this does need to get out into the public conversation. and what it was that desensitized them....
Beck acts like he's five years old because his army of morons act like a bunch of 5 year olds.
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Ailes should be charged with, and tried for sedition.
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As should Murdoch!
We should make the Police Unions aware of this trash from Beck and from Faux News in general. I am sure they would not like the trash from Beck, the police are the ones caught in the fire of these insane right-wingers...
off to somebody else. I'm so sick of eight years of that last fascist regime and their inability to accept responsibility for anything the did "wrong".
This trashy piece of shit is no different. It's NEVER their fault. It's always somebody else. What pigs. Disgusting slimeball pigs!
my internet connection killed the uploads. Sorry for that. The vids are working now.
for making it available. Since when did you decide that torture ia O.K.?
your effort is appreciated, no mater how you did with your bracket. :P
I just have to say it again...
These ASSHOLES... fabricate bullshit out of thin air...
Then when people go out and act on this fictitious reality... They act like they have no idea how this could happen.. or try to actually justify this evil...
What a horrid person... crying because there is not enough LIBERAL AMERICAN blood flowing in the streets...
His espousing Ghandi and King was very special also.. Ghandi, King and the NRA! When Ghandi and King were murdered, we had to pry their cold dead...?! How dare that asshole!
His stewardess analogy only pertains if the "valuable safety information" the stewardess is giving out is that the Pilot is crazy and going to fly the plane into the ground unless he is stopped. In such a situation if someone believed the stewardess, (who was really just talking out her ass to fill airtime during the preflight announcements) and killed the pilot, would we think this was just a nutjob who kills without any reason or explanation?
Nobody's saying the stewardess (BECK) killed the pilot (THE POLICE) in this scenario. But certainly the passenger (POPLAWSKI) probably wouldn't have killed the pilot were it not for the stewardess.
Uh, yeah.
Wow! Glen Beck is calling someone else crazy. That is pretty funny.
Seriously, Beck is one crazy mofo. I am impressed that Fox see fit to put this guy on national television.
When fearmongers like Beck use it to preach hysteria and fear long enough, the resulting violence should come as no surprise.
Fox is incredibly irresponsible giving Beck a platform. It is like giving an 8 year old a can of gasoline and a lighter and telling him to have fun.
the only way to combat them is to expose them. They think they can get away with this an be anonymous, well they can't and they shouldn't. label the post with their first names or their "login name" don't give the whole address but also give these to the FBI, with the full headers.
I had to deal with this over the internet years ago. It wasn't until I began showing these letters from the right wing that people began to really understand how vile and violent these people and their letters can be.
Mine were so bad my husband became frightened for me.
Post them
exposed them
and report them
I think you should put a hate mail of the day box on the front page. Show everyone what utter psychos these hard right 'people' are. When things like this happen more often, which I'm afraid it's going to, we need to feed the inevitable public backlash against people like Beck and Hannity who are stoking these psychopath's hate.
Post it and report it.. of course it wouldn't be surprising if BillO and Beck have some of their own and that should be reported as well..
post their hate-mails? ;>)
Did I just here Glenn Beck make the case for what Obama and the democrats really want to do: mental health checks for first time firearm card applications.
tv guys whose names sound like beck?
in addition to letting sponsors and fcc know our concerns and expectations re this sort of complicit behavior, i wonder why victims of these crimes (victims and including those collaterally damaged) don't file suits against these bad actors and their enablers.
F = 6th letter of the alphabet
O = 15th letter of the alphabet (1 + 5 = 6)
X = 24th letter of the alphabet (2 + 4 = 6)
F-O-X = 666
Beat'em at their own game. That oughta freak'em out. ;)
That is really creepy.
Awesome!
Those fuckwits who watch Fox will be beside themselves!
“Oh, and let's not forget about the nonexistent "global currency" both Bachmann and Beck believe is going to be forced upon us.”
We already have a sort of global currency, a reserve currency. It's the dollar. But 8 years of borrow and spend, more borrow and spend under Obama, outright printing of money by Ben Bernanke (called quantitative easing), criminal fraud permeating our financial sector, and corporate corruption of our government, and countries like Russia and China want a different reserve currency.
However, I don't think anyone knows how to pull it off in the short term, or even the medium term. Best way to end this sentiment in the long term is to end the government corruption, and financial fraud.
Wow, John @ the end! Right in the public eye. I here Calgary is a nice place.
Glenn Beck is still not representing conservatism, none in office think like him, So Glenn, who do you support for office, Who is your perfect candidate? What is their perfect platform, Paul's?
Still FOX news supported these types for years, Glenn.
The kookie guests on his show are such a weird new bunch, I still call bullshit.
Glenn Beck mainly 9-11 truther politics, with a dab of Mormon -n- a smidgen of Neo-con.
except when it's -40C for weeks on end. Other than that, just lovely!
Nice place, if you like conservatives!
and the Weather Underground during Vietnam, warning about the 'fascist police state' and then doing everything in their power to bring it about. This is no different. This is exactly the same game, with the same deadly consequences. Except, only a few see it for what it is.
That's when the police and the National Guard WERE killing innocent college kids for protesting, so there WAS evidence of a fascist police state.
AND the Weather Underground specifically set out to NOT injure people in their attacks. In the words of Bill Ayers: "We did carry out symbolic acts of extreme vandalism directed at monuments to war and racism, and the attacks on property, never on people, were meant to respect human life and convey outrage and determination to end the Vietnam war."
I'm not saying I necessarily agree with what they did, but I don't think it's a fair comparison.
I so despise this worthless lunatic, but I am oh so glad that C&L gets mentioned in this clip as a very popular blog. I only wish there were some way, John, that you could get Beck those hate emails you receive, along with the pictures of lynching. Somehow someone has to get through to this nutcase's head that words and rhetoric do matter.
You've hit the big time now. "The Fox, dirty, hippy, liberal, Enemy's list? Cheers!
Glenn, please, for the love of God, get back on the medication!
Cheers, C&L!
to be pro-Second Amendment, lunatics like the shooter and Beck here are the biggest arguments for gun control.
I don't really watch television so I'm not even sure what he was referencing.. but he seemed to imply that NBC takes the other side of issues which he said makes his job easier.. His job.. to stir shit for money.. it's just a job.. means nothing to him.. the post below with FOX = 666 is all too accurate.. of course it's not just FOX into the amorality of money.. It's also sad, though fewer are allowing these scurrulous bastids to get away with it, that they equate themselves with conservatives. True conservatives are surely offended also. We all need to distance ourselves from these parasites.
Do any of you remember walking down the street and a car pulls up with a bunch of kids in it and one gets out to pick a fight, when the one guy gets the upper hand for a moment, another jumps out and starts kicking the walking guy, when that kicking guy all of a sudden becomes the focus of the fight he starts to run away?
Same thing with these people, they are the kicking guy.
Does Beck remember Beck showing a Nazi German rally and equating it to Obama? It was very recently. Glenn, there are real Nazis today and they have extreme hatred for Obama and probably like you.
Speaking of "gun nuts":
The head of the NRA, Wayne LaPierre was my best friend from 1965-72. He lies about where he went to college his junior and senior years (1969-71) in order to hide his left-wing political activity and illegal drug use. He claims he went to Siena all four years, but he went to S.U.N.Y.–Albany the third and fourth years. I rode from Virginia to Albany with him in 1969.
He was on the Moratorium Committee which shut down SUNY-Albany in May 1970, after Kent State killings and revelation of taking war into Cambodia.
He absolutely agreed totally with the Chicago Eight (Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, David Dellinger, Tom Hayden, Rennie Davis, John Froines, Lee Weiner, and Bobby Seale). They were heroes to him. Tom Paxton, Arlo Guthrie, Joan Baez, Woody Guthrie, and Phil Ochs were, too.
In the summer of 1972 I went to the draft physical with him. He had a low lottery number, meaning he would definitely be drafted and sent to Nam later in the year. But he said he got a friendly family doctor to say (falsely) that he had a nervous condition, and thus got a deferment.
Contrary to what he says now, he never touched a gun before he was 24 and always said how much he hated the ‘gun nuts’. He is afraid of anyone who knew him his first 24 years.
That is some good stuff dood
The reason that I despise LaPierre so is because he has gotten millions of union members to vote Republican against their own best interests with the "Taking your guns" meme.
Without the fear tactic, the Republicans wouldn't get a single vote from the working middle class.
many of the 60s radical left did an about face when they hit their 30s
this was due to the fact that they were rebelling from, instead of rebelling to
despite their platitudes, most had no real intention of helping to create a better world, they were just bored, angry and frustrated at the world they were living in
so they latched onto the "yippie" movement, which was nothing more than a performance art group)
when the world did not change in the way that they expected...they turned around and decried the lefty movement from which they spawned
what the heck...they had their fun, drugs and sex...they didnt feel better about themselves or the world...so their logic dictated that the message must have been wrong...cuz god forbid they should look at themselves and see that it was the messenger that was wrong
Uncle Joe McCarthy,
What you describe fits a lot of people at that time. They felt rebellious, it was new and fashionable, and you could party. But Wayne and I were not like that. We were seriously, strongly into politics. He was a poly-sci major and was 24 when he was working for McGovern in 1972. I lost touch with him for a few years, but my take is that it is often quite difficult making a decent living being anti-establishment unless you have a really good talent---such as writing. Wayne did not. A Seymour Hersh or Carl Bernstein he was not. But he did have an oppotunity to join the N.R.A. and he took it. He likes hobknobbing with famous people and he now makes about $! million per year. And he is always "playing dumb". He knows perfectly well the stuff he says is not true. He looks like the worst actor I have ever seen. He is never genuine today. He is always giving a phony fake reaction to everything---for twenty years.
I wish there was someone at Siena 1967-69 who remembers him leaving or someone at S.U.N.Y-ALBANY who remembers him there. This would be POLY-SCI. My contact: keithgordon@earthlink.net
that was stated right after he blew off the "liberal" blogs
uh...this man is insane
the lone nutjob is right there on the tv screen
The second I see the name Glenn Beck, I know it will be an absolute waste of time to read whatever it is he's spewing. Don't feed the trolls.
Has Beck read any of the comments from his 912 project?
People on his website are writing about hanging politicians, violent over-throw of the gov't, etc. So if he still does not understand that he is playing with fire, well, then there is no hope for him.
Here's just one example from Becks website, you can find worse.
"Clean your weapons daily no matter what you have access to. It actually might come down to American against American yet again... Republicans defeated the south once before that is before they all moved into the cities...."
I have no idea what the last sentence is about but don't you just feel the spirit of 9/12?
If Glenn Beck wants to paint the picture for extremists believing the new administration is coming to get you. Using Beck's own twisted logic, it's appropriate to paint the picture of Glenn Beck of helping pull the trigger. How do you sleep at night, Mr. Beck?
Sorry, but I couldn't resist a chuckle. I think you meant "foul". The juxtaposition of "right wingers" and "fowl" brings to mind a one-winged chicken, which would be a great logo for the irresponsible dolts whining about being in the less-than-complimentary spotlight these days!
Keep the pressure on, baby! You're doing great if you've got Glenn Beck complaining. He just doesn't realize how serious his part in feeding violence is, as twit-like as I think he is.
Beck v/s C&L.
Good for business.
that you wouldn't obsess about freaks like Beck.
Any publicity, as you should know, is good publicity if you spell the name right. And it ain't too hard to spell "beck".
Perhaps you would give us more intelligent people to watch if you took in that by focusing on idiots like Beck and the rest you are actually helping their careers and lining their pockets.
The problem with your premise is that most publicity hounds don't encourage violence against others. They just want to be in the spotlight no matter how they get it to swing their way. Now, of course Beck wants this as well, but what he's doing is downright sinister in its effects. He's not merely a publicity hound but someone, like the rest of the hate-mongers, who needs to have his chain jerked because people are being murdered after the perpetrators absorb the fear and lies of people like him.
He would have us believe that his words have no effect on anyone and he is therefore blameless.
If that is the case, then why is he broadcasting?
Has everyone forgotten Oklahoma City? The kind of hate, desperation and paranoia coming from these people is no doubt feeding the minds of lowlifes who dream of another attack like that. With all the fear from the right about terrorists over the years it seems people have more to fear from being killed by a gun nut down the street.
And isn't it funny how the same people who always rally against song lyrics and clamor for corporate responsibility in what they distribute are now hiding behind free speech as though that entitles them to say anything on air without repercussion.
CONGRATULATIONS!
You must be doing some things right, including hitting a nerve. I hope you keep the pressure on. Ol' Bunkerhead Beck needs the light of day to show his heinous ways.
I once advocated liberal views, and realized in short order, how vain, unreliable and out-of-touch the majority in this camp are. I also discovered far too many liberals are cowards and appeasers. They have a delusional view about flowers stopping bullets. Ain't gonna happen.
Granted, those on the other side of the aisle can be extreme and trigger happy...and I love it. Realizing our enemies around the globe are dedicated to our demise, has taught me conflict is a viable necessity. Fear mongering is an excellent motivator if one does their homework. Frankly, I could care less who or what desinged us. It's clear, many among our speces are missing integral parts needed to function in a responsible way. If we screened and euthanized the bulk of these social miscreants, the fog shrouding humanity would surely dissipate.
Not gonna happen. Division is so entrenched in America, fallout is a given. Blame, shame, frivilous disagreements and contention have splintered the nation. There's no turning back, and no compromise. We are on a collision course with destiny, and it ain't gonna be pretty. Desperate egos abound, and fame is more important then game.
Therefore, I chose to replace my flower with a big ugly gun. It will insure my survival maybe a day or two longer, and allow me to perish with some semblance of deignity. I know, when the time comes (and it will come), the majority seeking cover in my foxhole will be liberal.
Take your goddamn stereotypical bullshit and shove it up your ass.
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 05:30 — goldmind
I served in the Air Force, Top Secret Clearance, Honorable Discharge, and you?
And why are you essentially paraphrasing Obama about division in this country, but claiming it as your own view?
Good for you wing wiper. I was in the Marine Corps for 13 years with 3 combat tours. Nobody gives a shit you had a TS clearance. So your gonna protect people because you were in the Air force and are therefore a badass? I say jackass.
Is disinformation. And it's permeated your head.
Have a nice day.
No that's the weed I've used over the years.
Therefore, you should choose to replace your big ugly gun with a little pocket dictionary, champ:
could care less = COULDN'T care less
desinged? (Someone unsang us?) Do you mean "designed"?
speces = species
frivilous = frivolous
...fame is more important THAN game (not "then")
insure = ensure (learn the difference)
deignity = dignity
Before you get on your high horse and start bitching about Grammar Nazis and so forth - know this - that if you want to be viewed as someone with intelligence and important opinions, then you need to improve your spelling and vocabulary. If you want to be thought of as someone whose opinions count because you have the intellectual firepower to back them up, then don't dumb down your posts with 5th grade spelling errors. Hey, look - we all type "teh" every once in a while, but you're just off the charts, pal. Brush up on the language if you want to be taken seriously.
This is what you sound like: "Mongo no need smart. Mongo got big gun."
Just a hint from your liberal, elite friends.
maybe in the 60s, but I hardly see or hear any nonsense equal to that back then. The liberals today are might be the same people as those hippies back in the 60's but they definitely don't have the same mentality.
"We are on a collision course with destiny, and it ain't gonna be pretty. Desperate egos abound, and fame is more important then game.
Therefore, I chose to replace my flower with a big ugly gun. It will insure my survival maybe a day or two longer, and allow me to perish with some semblance of deignity. I know, when the time comes (and it will come), the majority seeking cover in my foxhole will be liberal."
So then, you believe all this crap about how the "revolution is coming" that the far right likes to spew?
And of course Beck is only one of many high profile right wing media personalities whipping the right wingers into a frenzy, without ever stopping to consider all the Poplawski's out there ready and willing to take up arms to murder innocent people. It doesn't take much to put someone like that over the edge. Consider the proliferation of neo-nazi groups since Obama was inaugurated. Even right wingers not bent on violence suffer some kind of deranged thinking syndrome. No doubt we will see more serious acts of violence before Obama finishes his first term. After all, it took less than 3 months for the first incident. How many others will be killed as a result of the right wing fear and hate mongering?
As soon as I heard about Binghamton and Pittsburgh, I said there's a pattern. First, the right wing whipped up the "base" about immigrants. Then they whipped them up about gun control. The fact that more and more of these mass killings are done by people who where bullet-proof vests indicated to me that there is a growing pattern. I don't know if there is an underground organization or what is going on, but it is a pattern. Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and Bill O'Really and Sean Hannity and all of the other talking heads on FoxNews deserve a large part of the blame.
When left wing pundits whipped up the liberal leaning voters to finally make a change in the government, you didn't see mass killings by left wing leaning crazies. But the right wing has this tendency to get violent. They think that if they can't drown you out with their shouting, they'll intimidate you with violence. I think the right wing pundits know this tendency and push it to the limit.
What kind of fucking dumbasses can endure listening to this bullshit? Beck also has that uncomfortable, nervous, crazy man's giggle as he psychobabbles.
He reminds me of the text-book QVC/Home Shopping Network/3 AM Real Estate Investment infomercial personality.
The kind of guy who could take a crap on the ground, turn around, and start telling you how much less it's priced at than it's retail value...
And when they use certain loaded words and phrases like "re-education camps," "facism/communism/socialism," "Obama wants to take away our guns," etc., they know exactly what these words mean to certain people. They create images of the worst totalitarian societies and allow the possibility of the US joining them because they've also helped to sell the idea that Obama is "different."
He put his hand over his mouth when the guy said Crooks & Liars Lets hope that was a fatal mistake for them
Beck goes into a 5 minute bs session on how the rightwing had nothing to do with setting these shithead gun nuts off, them starts more hate talk about "Liberals". A-mazing.
I guarantee he doesn't have the intellectual capacity to see the hypocrisy in that.
Saw on the net this am that there was evidently a plot in Turkey over the weekend to stab Obama at one of those Nato get togethers.Turkish guy who had a press ID..Broken up,thank God.
Deb,Vegas
a boxcutter? Politicians always have threats against them regardless of who it is.
Can you imagine the threats someone like Martin Luther King, or Ghandi, or someone who actually fought for change would have/did get?
You are full of shit.
None of us are privy to all the info regarding threats to the President. But I would imagine that there are alot.
But I am not sure.
something to do with being the Zionists buddies, it always does
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