Bachmann-Turnip Overdrive: Clueless 'global currency' paranoia in high gear
By David Neiwert Wednesday Apr 01, 2009 12:30pm
It seems to be slowly sinking through the addled pates of Michelle Bachmann and her avid codependents, like Glenn Beck (henceforth dubbed "the Turnip"), that all this talk about "replacing the dollar with a global currency" has nothing to do with what America wants to do.
But that doesn't mean they're going to abandon their glorious quest to protect Americans from having to buy their groceries with BigBrotherBucks or NewWorldOrderNotes or some such "one world government" currency imposed on us by nefarious "internationalists" in the Obama administration. Ohhh, no.
Bachmann went on Beck's show yesterday to natter at length about Bachmann's bill to block the U.S. from ever joining any such plan. And instead of suggesting, as they have previously, that we all might be forced to start using some new global currency in lieu of the dollar, they fudged the thrust of their conversation a bit without abandoning the conspiracism at all:
Beck: OK, here's the one thing that comes to mind, Michelle. And that is: We can pass anything that says we're not going to recognize any currency -- but that won't keep the value of the currency. The only thing that will keep the currency -- uh -- value -- the only reason why we would look to another currency is because ours sucks because we've devalued it by spending and borrowing and printing. So this legislation really in the end means nothing if we don't stop the spending.
Bachmann: The spending is the key to everything. But it seems like right now there are so many leaks in the dam from every different area. We're fighting out-of-control spending on one hand, out-of-control taxation on another. And now we're talking about the International Monetary Fund being expanded to take on a new, expanded set of responsibilities it was never designed to take on, and that would be expanding the Special Drawing Down Rights for every country, and taking the dollar off as the medium of exchange. That in itself would devalue our dollar lower than we ever seen before in the history of our country. I don't want to see that happen.
There are some glimmers of understanding there, but it's clear that Bachmann is again transmitting to us from Planet Wingnuttia, since this has little to do with the text of her bill.
Beck is shocked, shocked that only 30 congresscritters have signed onto Bachmann's bill. But that might be because they've read its actual text:
`The President may not enter into a treaty or other international agreement that would provide for the United States to adopt as legal tender in the United States a currency issued by an entity other than the United States.'.
Nevermind that this is a Constitutional amendment (which requires subsequent passage by the legislatures of all 50 states). What's clear is that this is a bill intended to prevent a "global currency" being forced upon Americans.
The problem, of course, is that no one is even remotely suggesting such a thing.
Note that Beck describes the bill as "prohibiting the United States from recognizing any other currency besides the greenback," which it manifestly does not do; after all, that would mean we'd refuse to recognize pesos or Canadian dollars or Euros or yuan as well, which would mean the end of foreign trade.
But incoherency is what this whole argument is about. It's about preying on people's gross misunderstanding of international finance and how reserve currency works. Bachmann seems to think America can somehow control what the world uses as its medium of international trade, and seems to now be fearful that international trade will no longer be pegged to the dollar.
But that particular horse has been long gone from that particular barn. The Bretton Woods system, which in fact pegged international trade to the dollar, expired in 1971 thanks to policy changes made by the Republican administration of Richard Nixon. Since then, the dollar has remained the de facto "reserve currency" of choice -- mainly because the United States has remained the world's preeminent economy.
Now, thanks to conservative mismanagement of the past decade and more, that position is in serious jeopardy -- which is why the international community is looking to create a more stable form of reserve currency in which they can invest. It doesn't mean dollars will cease being bought by other nations -- if our economy rebounds to its former strength, the dollar will remain a favorite form of reserve currency --
But reading the text of her legislation, it's clear that the dollar's trade value is not what this bill was about. As Greg Sargent reported:
“She’s talking about the United States,” Keller said. “This legislation would ensure that the U.S. dollar remain the currency of the United States.” Of course, no one had been discussing any change in U.S. currency in the first place….
Indeed, Bachmann's continuing suggestion that Tim Geithner lied to her is manifest evidence of her utter incomprehension -- her complete, bass-ackwards, afactual idiocy:
“Yesterday, during a Financial Services Committee hearing, I asked Secretary Geithner if he would denounce efforts to move towards a global currency and he answered unequivocally that he would," said Bachmann. "And President Obama gave the nation the same assurances. But just a day later, Secretary Geithner has left the option on the table. I want to know which it is. The American people deserve to know."
Asked today about a currency proposal from China at a Council on Foreign Relations event, Secretary Geithner stated he was open to supporting it. Despite attempts to clarify his remarks later in the day, the unguarded initial response calls into question his true intentions.
Although Title 31, Sec. 5103 USC prohibits foreign currency from being recognized in the U.S., the President has the power to engage foreign governments in treaties, and the President is principally responsible for the interpretations and implementation of those treaties according to the Constitution. As a result, legislation prohibiting the President and Treasury from issuing or agreeing that the U.S. will adopt an international currency would need to come in the form of a Constitutional Amendment differentiating a treaty used to implement an international currency in the U.S. from other types of treaty agreements.
Once again, here's what Geithner actually said:
"I haven’t read the governor’s proposal. He’s a very thoughtful, very careful distinguished central banker. I generally find him sensible on every issue," Geithner said, saying that however his interpretation of the proposal was to increase the use of International Monetary Fund's special drawing rights -- shares in the body held by its members -- not creating a new currency in the literal sense.
"We’re actually quite open to that suggestion – you should see it as rather evolutionary rather building on the current architecture rather than moving us to global monetary union," he said.
"The only thing concrete I saw was expanding the use of the [special drawing rights]," Geithner said. "Anything he’s thinking about deserves some consideration."
The continued use of the dollar as a reserve currency, he added, "depends..on how effective we are in the United States...at getting our fiscal system back to the point where people judge it as sustainable over time."
Memo to Michelle Bachmann: Special drawing rights are not a new currency. We won't be buying our groceries with them.
Login or Register to post comments.
Did you dub him the turnip just because you needed to execute a pun, or is there another reason?
Turnip lovers of the world need to know why you want to degrade our favorite root.
I grew up in an area where Turnips where considered somewhat of a delicacy. Used to eat them raw, the small ones, with just a hint of sea salt.
I've thought he looked like a turnip in the past. But yes, it's a badly forced pun.
Hey, I never promise the jokes will be good. ...
Good? maybe not - but we do know they'll "turnip" once in a while.
Okay, I'm leaving, I'm leaving . . . .
*
It was a perfectly perfect pun and don't let any of the sorry sad sacks let you believe otherwise.
It was brilliant in fact. Not "badly forced" but well thought out and I certainly expect it to parallel "doughy pantload" in general descriptive humour.
Seems to me beck and bachmann contradicted each other. He referred to borrowing and spending our way to a weaker dollar (the republican way), and she to taxing and spending is hurting the economy(the usual republican mantra regarding Democratic big government IS the problem).
And yet they seem to think they are in agreement, although those are polemical comments.
They don't have to make sense - they just have to ramp up the rhetoric.
Keep the average IQ of their target audience in mind.
*
Where the hell does that come from? It's all about whipping up fear over nothing. I took Logic 100, and I think this is known as the straw man argument. Anybody out there know for sure?
I can't be the only one frightened by her eyes. That Bachmann lady is... simply... just.... not.... there....
The fact that the cons are going off the reservation en masses is probably due to them coming to grasp with the magnitude of their f*ck up, and their pea-sized brains can't simply wrap themselves around the concept of the fallacious nature of their scale of values and accomplishments.
Hopefully this behavior is a symptom of the fact that the conservative movement in this country is self imploding. Alas, I am afraid that the explosion of shit, once they collapse like a blackhole under the gravity of their mistakes, is going to take eons to clean up...
No, you are not the only one frightened by her eyes. Notice how similar they are to Beck's. They also remind me of Laura Bush's eyes. Just empty sockets with mice and moths inside the head area.
In fact, I was looking at her eyes and totally lost track of what the hell she and Beck were talking about.
I guess whomever is trying to force us to change our currency is the "them" that beck says he and his group has surrounded.
The eyes give it away. Bachmann and Bush are both Stepford wives. They say only what they are programmed to say.
What kind of pocket of idiocy does that area of Minnesota have to be to elect this clown?
Love how she says "Uninen States," like a true bimbo.
...between Israel and the United States.
David Shuster did a Hypocrisy Watch report yesterday on her suddenly wishing Obama success on the Middle East peace process between the US and Israel.
She completely left out the Palestinians.
But so did Shuster as he critiqued only her statement on other grounds.
AND THAT'S JUST PLAIN WRONG DAVID!!
I was going to say about the same thing about Bachmann. Rarely do I say something about someone's looks (other than Limbaugh) but there is something wild and unsettling about her eyes. Is she on drugs?
She's high on the Lord.
cause her skull is filled with helium.
Please tell me that this idiot hasn't spewed out offspring.
Wed, 04/01/2009 - 14:02 — wheyghey
She's high on the Lord.
__________________________________________
Not curds and whey?
known to man, and I don't recognize the glare, except as something I've seen with a few of the nutcases I've done time with in county jail, after they've been clean awhile.
It's just pure crazy, nothin' else.
among Christian fundamentalists.
I keep waiting for the eyes to start doing that spinning red-and-white pinwheel business -- like the "disturbed" 'Toon in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit"? Remember?
*
You are funny, Trittydi!
Judge Doom - from Roger Rabbit.
*
Christopher Lloyd is a mean Judge Doom.
btw, nice song!
How the hell did this woman get elected are there any Minnesotans watching talk about retards Beck & her
Yep, I've noticed her eyes before....very creepy.
But it's also the damned fake smile she is always wearing. She reminds me so much of Katherine Harris....fake to the bone.
Jeez, Linda Blair has really let herself go.
the eyes always seem to give away the fact that you are channeling crazy.... seriously, if I saw this woman on the streets, i would scream like a girl and run away (maybe splash holy water on her first). Do you think she has a pet raven?
Style points for the post title.
I always hated Bachman Turner Overdrive and that wheezy Taking Care of Business.
but apparently TCofB was one of Elvis' faves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFb-jQMC-_o
Thanks, fastfeat!
Love it. Instead of waving the flag, they're waving the almighty dollar with Michele Bachmann as the color guard! LOL!
Imagine the waves of glory when Obama "backs off" of changing our currency, which he was never going to do. Point, game, match to Bachmann! She's on it!
What a match-up. Which of these two lunatics is more dangerously insane? Hard to tell.
Look at her eyes, listen to her - she's off the charts, bat-shit crazy. But then Beck is documenting his own insanity on national television daily.
How different are these two from the human-aberrations that drove the genocide in Rwanda with their hyperbolic fear-mongering rhetoric?
*
Rictus. Grin.
[brrrrr]
Not to leave Beck out:
Knuckle. Head.
(and that is being kind, I am sure we'd all agree)
The MIC needs fresh cannon fodder.
For a moment I thought you meant these two should breed. What an absolutely and completely terrifying thought.
*
Yes, very terrifying. But those two are meant for each other.
wants to sacrifice a goat.... I'm sensing either a tasteless april fools joke or a ritual marriage for these idiots. Anyone?
I want the names of the 30 who have signed on with her. Who-TF are they?
nuff said
Rep Akin, W. Todd [MO-2]
Rep Bachus, Spencer [AL-6]
Rep Bartlett, Roscoe G. [MD-6]
Rep Biggert, Judy [IL-13]
Rep Blackburn, Marsha [TN-7]
Rep Broun, Paul C. [GA-10]
Rep Brown, Henry E., Jr. [SC-1]
Rep Burton, Dan [IN-5]
Rep Conaway, K. Michael [TX-11]
Rep Culberson, John Abney [TX-7]
Rep Fallin, Mary [OK-5]
Rep Fleming, John [LA-4]
Rep Foxx, Virginia [NC-5]
Rep Gingrey, Phil [GA-11]
Rep Gohmert, Louie [TX-1]
Rep Hensarling, Jeb [TX-5]
Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49]
Rep Jones, Walter B., Jr. [NC-3]
Rep King, Steve [IA-5]
Rep Kirk, Mark Steven [IL-10]
Rep Lamborn, Doug [CO-5]
Rep McClintock, Tom [CA-4]
Rep McCotter, Thaddeus G. [MI-11]
Rep Paul, Ron [TX-14]
Rep Pitts, Joseph R. [PA-16]
Rep Posey, Bill [FL-15]
Rep Price, Tom [GA-6]
Rep Roe, David P. [TN-1]
Rep Shadegg, John B. [AZ-3]
Rep Thompson, Glenn [PA-5]
Rep Wamp, Zach [TN-3]
we need to concentrate on getting these idiots sent back to the private sector. I see a lot of these folks are from the south... what is it about the south that breeds so much crazy?
All on the list are Republicans. 30 out of 31 are in reliably Republican districts. The average Cook PVI for this list is R +12. The lone exception is the Illinois 10th (northern suburbs of Chicago) which is a PVI of D +4 and is represented by Mark Kirk. Kirk is an enigmatic character who championed the bill banning embryonic stem cell research in 2005, but also led a group of Republican reps to conference with Bush about how the Iraq war was hurting Republicans in elections.
Either way, for this bill, he's a moron. He won the last two house races by 6% against former Chicago Bear Dan Seals. He should be easy to beat in this district, but he's held it for 5 terms.
very very thorough, thank you for the information!
Bachmann herself is from the Minnesota 6th which is only R +5. The NY-20 is R +3, and that was a tie yesterday. With Bachmann's lunatic fringe stances, she should be vulnerable in 2010.
but for the failure of the Democrats to run a charismatic candidate against her.
The list of crazies in congress. I'd love to see the type of people who voted these people in. Chances are they have a gun rack in the back of their Chevy, a bible on their bed stand and the only other book the ever read was The Anarchist Cookbook.
Anyone want to make a bet with me that Beck takes on the protesters in England today. I'm betting he talks about them on his show tonight and not in a good way. Of course the protesters are doing exactly what he tells his audience they should do, but I doubt he'll see it that way.
I think he did take on the protesters....but I can't stand watching him for more than a couple of minutes, so I don't really know.
I do know that he was talking with some conservative MP, and they were both making fun of Obama giving the Queen an iPod.
and cry and cry....
Article V states that amendments require ratification by 3/4 of the states, not 100%.
Here is Michael Hudson with rational thought on currency.
Wonder if anyone will point out to her (in very small words) how her bill would be the ultimate in regulating free markets? What the hell does patriotism (and I use the word in a very loose sense) have to do with currency? These asshats believe in free-market, but don't ever want to accept that a free-market may deliver something they don't like.
Kinda like how awkward our govt (republican dominated at the time) handled the fact that democracy in palestine led to the election of a terrorist organization.
A global currency is inevitable and is also a necessary step in ending the injustices of the current global economic system. The issue isn't going to be keeping it from happening, it's going to be ensuring that the institutions that are used or created to administer such a thing are not corrupt or beholden to a handful of countries who would arrange that they become the equivalent of the world's entrenched and privileged oligarchs.
The Turnip, his insane sidekick and all like them can scream and cry all they want, it's not going to stop the process.
Maybe we should just "Let it Ride." But if you think these two are finished with inane comments "you ain't seen nothin' yet."
.
my hero zero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPE_xB0HIbw
Everyone in her district needs testing to assure they aren't shape shifting aliens because only shape shifting aliens would for for this freak. Forget conservative or liberal as she is neither. She is just fucking crazy.
she was elected by people who thought she was the best choice to represent them.
watching these two lunatics is FUN. I mean...gawwwd.
the dollar is printed by the federal reserve bank.
the federal reserve bank is not part of the united states government.
the fed is a private entity.
while glenn beck is a complete retard maybe you guys should do some research on another currency...the euro.
google the euro then google the amero
you might be surprised at what you find.
the euro was considered a "conspiracy" at one point too.
Sounds like a pretty good rule... As long as the last reference to the United States means the government of the United States.
One ex-president said, before he left office, that the worst mistake he made was giving the power of creating US-dollars to a private bank. [needs quotation]
A banker said that he did not care who made the laws, as long as he could control the amount of money available. [needs quotation]
The international buying-power of the dollar has been created in the early 70's of the previous century.[] It was created by fixing all international oil-trade in dollars.[]
One of the reasons Iraq was invaded was because Saddam wanted an oil-trade in other currencies then dollars.[]
Iran is a big thread because it wants to do the same thing: trade oil in both euro's and Yen, as well as us$.[](They even build a freaking island for it)
The balance sheet of the private bank called 'Federal Reserve' has been almost tripled in the last year, because they loaned money, without any political oversight, to certain financial institutions.
They refused so far to name these institutions.[]
Bachman's 'proposal' looks kinda good, doesn't it? With an amendment or two... the republicans are already aboard...
Once this has passed into law, we'll discuss who might maybe be a representative organization....
Me
(oops, sorry, i was just thinking..then writing... didn't mean to get you started on it too... sorry. cause thinking is dangerous, and addictive....)
...you ain't seen n-n-n-n-nothin' yet.
These two are lunatic fringe gold and they have all got their crazy on.
Keep it coming!
And re-read the Constitution because I thought that the US Constitution already prohibits using currency other than that printed by the US Mint.
You could apply that "no one is even remotely suggesting such a thing" line to pretty much everything Beck ever gets his panties in a bunch over. Actually you could apply it to pretty much everything the right has claimed Obama or Pelosi or Reid wants.
Beck goes off on these tangets and obfuscates until no one really knows what the hell he really is talking about. Tonight he has decided we are now a fascist country and have been building up to it for years and years. He had some prof who was supposed to back up his theory but the prof wasn't as fu*king crazy as Beck so the interview was cut short. The prof was trying to explain that things weren't as dire as Beck was saying, so off with him and on with Bolton, who is as fu*king crazy as Beck.
Oh, the best part. There is a symbol on the old US dimes that beck says resembles the old Italian symbol for fascism. Personally I thought the symbol on the dime was like a sheaf of wheat or something.
It is called the FASCES, and is the symbol for fascism. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasces)
It was on our US dimes at one point, and can be found on the back wall of Congress, as well as on the Lincoln Memorial. BTW, I believe that this nutjob beck was handpicked by FOX to take up 'fringe' beliefs as a way of discrediting them, as he is certainly not helping to do anything but reinforce partisan division.
They originally represented the unity and power of the Roman Republic- alone or even standing loosely amongst other stalks, wheat is easily scythed down. But bundled together, it's very strong. That's why the Roman Republic adopted it as a symbol. That's why later republics, like ours and those of France appropriated it.
Oh, and the US and France adopted the fasces before Mussolini was born.
In order to gain the political control they've enjoyed over the last ten years, Republican moderates and Reagan conservatives made a pact with the devil (faux Christians, bigots and misanthropes) to achieve the numbers they needed to defeat Democrats. They made a strategic decision to manipulate and exploit the ignorance, fears and hatreds of dysfunctional and vulnerable voters in order to win elections rather than lose them by being intellectually and morally honest.
Today, those who conspired with the devil are caught between wanting to disassociate themselves with and or casting out the devil they empowered and the karmic reality that they don't have the numbers to hold on to or regain power without continuing to accept and "advocate" the immoral values, hypocrisies and corruptions that are dividing and destroying their party.
The survival of today's shrinking Republican Party has become so dependent on extremism that they have no significant power left WITH or WITHOUT the support of America's increasingly pernicious lunatic fringe.
The idiom "caught between the devil and the deep blue sea" is certainly appropriate as Republicans are facing the dilemma of choosing between two equally undesirable alternatives that both result in Republican impotence in mainstream American politics. They are suffering the consequences of their treachery.
Their irresponsible propping up of George W. Bush cost them their credibility, and their disgraceful and shameless licking of Rush Limbaugh's storm trooper boots is costing them their viability.
Bingo! You got it exactly right.
Nobody escapes justice. Nice to see them stuck in this dilemna of their own making.
Is it not obvious that the Left has had its 'progressive' party hijacked by big-business interests and the War Machine as well??
The Dems should really take note from what the Republican party didn't do to save itself - ferret out the traitors to their party, and stick to the core principles. They sold small government beliefs upstream with the election of Reagan, and it was the beginning of the end for them. Now that the 'progressive' left is in power, there seems to be a ghostly silence regarding the need to end American Imperialism.
The Democratic party now appears to be openly supporting the very things they opposed in the Bush Administration - War-mongering, Corporate-Welfare, and loss of civil liberties.
As if theirs some objective stance that makes the "Party" a sentient being capable of determining and defining its prenciples without input and debate amongst its constituency?
Political parties change with the views of their membership. The Democratic Party- the "Big Tent" party- would have to narrow its platform substantially to have the ability to determine the traitors from the dissenters.
With the question as to whether Bachman smokes dope or shoot it into her arm unanswered, someone should have reminded the Congresscritter that the President can;t enter into any treaty, without the consent of the Senate.
Then again, it's Glen Beck and Michelle Bachman..so why ruin their little world with those damned pesky FACTS.
you find Hannity too smart for you...
Peas, lettuce avoid vegetable pokes!
Lettuce turnip and pea
Are the republicans trying to start a third party? The Crazy party? I mean Beck and Rush and other crazies are attracting all the loons and maybe that's the way the republicans think they can purge their party of these freaks, from behind the curtain encourage them to peel away and follow the likes of Beck, Palin, Bachmann and the rest.
but since this idiot got his harcut, doesn't he look like the stereotypical view of a KKK member? Im not saying he is, but he sure as hell acts, talks, and looks like one.
We don't know what he is, other than freakin' crazy.
I don't know if it's ego or lack of confidence but I have a problem with looking stupid. If a comment I should make or being part of a subject I'm clueless about I avoid it at all cost. How does a person like Bachmann do this? Make comments like she does.
Who voted for this woman? She is the biggest nut in congress hands down. She proved it just before the 2008 elections and yet she still got enough votes to win. After her comments I was shocked to see she even got one vote. ONE!!!! What is wrong people?!!!
"The problem, of course, is that no one is even remotely suggesting such a thing."
Well, no one that Crooks and Liars is willing to acknowledge...
from: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2009-03/28...
________________________
"Central bank governor Zhou Xiaochuan's recent call to replace the US dollar with a new global currency is gaining traction within the international community.
Joseph Stiglitz, a Columbia University economics professor who heads a United Nations expert panel, said a reserve currency system based on an International Monetary Fund (IMF) unit instead of the US dollar, like what Zhou has proposed, could be phased in within a year."
Stiglitz's panel has issued a set of recommendations for global financial reforms, including a proposal for a new reserve system based on the IMF's special drawing rights (SDRs) - a basket of currencies consisting of the euro, yen, sterling and the US dollar.
_____________________
This one link invalidates your whole supposition. that Bachmann is responding to absolutely nothing. But seriously, the knee-jerk reactionary partisan name-calling stuff is real cute.
Read what you just presented:
This is exactly what David has been writing about. It's not you and I paying for groceries in Globos, it's about the international reserve system using a currency other than the US Dollar as its standard.
You're only offering proof to David's post.
Actually it's my understanding that each country has in reserve currency from several states; primarily right now the US Dollar, the Japanese Yen, and I think the British pound.
The US dollar is likely to continue being used, but perhaps phased down in from the top three.
The Chinese who are pushing this thing is not in favor of any IMF, but SDR's (Special Drawing Rights). The problem is, accoring to some economic experts quoted in the NYT is that SDR's is not a currency (and neither is the IMF.) That would be tantamount to saying the Fed wants to replace the dollar with Federal Funds.
If they ever do a Broke Back Mounting version of the Lone Ranger it would be Tontomount.
I wonder what, if anything, he knows about private industry currencies such as these:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_Units_of...
Note that although NUC's are globally used by the airline industry, they are in fact roughly pegged to the value of the U.S. dollar.
Does the airline currency conspiracy get a pass, mjULTRA?
It's very nice that Glenn and Michele have finally hooked up. They are such a good pair. Don't you think?
The two faces of Mad Cow Disease.
she looks and sounds more and more like she's channeling Regan.
Not the ex-preznit she claims to admire, emulate and love, but the kid who spits out pea-soup as her heads spins around, as she's telling the priest that his mother sucks c*cks in Hell...
The "one world currency" hysteria comes directly from fundamentalist Christian end times prophesy dogma. Every time there's a Democratic president, fundy preachers get their congregations all stirred up with claims that the prez is plotting a sudden devaluation of the dollar and an imminent switch to a single world currency. In fundyland, supposedly a single currency (for reasons they never quite explain) is necessary for the Antichrist to seize control of the world. It was first drilled into my head by my fundy father when I was 11 years old and Hal Lindsey's sheep were all convinced that as soon as Greece joined the EU, Jimmy Carter would devalue the dollar and Armageddon would happen within months. (The fact that the "prophesies" never come true never deters these people from believing the next round of "prophesies.") Bachmann's rants are meant to signal the fundy masses that Obama either (1) is the Antichrist, or (2) is in cahoots with him.
Thanks.
I figured it was something like this.
My question is which is worse, one global currency or UPC symbols?
No, it doesn't. An amendment needs the approval of three-fourths of the states.
And even before that an amendment requires 2/3's of each House approving it, unless the amendment comes from state Constitutional Conventions, which I don't think we've had since the drafting of the Constitution. Actually they were only there to reform the Articles of Confederation.
Could someone from MN please tell me why this woman is elected to represent their state?
These folks can't really be so dim that they can't see that this woman is not really sane.
And speaking of MB, why aren't her children serving in the military and in Iraq fighting for our freedom?
You are all forgetting a few salient points. When these doofuses say one thing, they mean the opposite. So when they say "peace and prosperity" they mean "corporate control" and when they say "freedom and liberty" they mean "dominionist fascism". Which is why when they say they are bringing peace and properity to Iraq through the introduction of freedom and liberty, they are actually correct.
so, when they say they want this to oppose an international money, they are actually saying they are trying to stave off the development of local currencies in the wake of economic collapse. It's really all very simple, once you apply the looking glass... similar to the beer goggles that make Anne Coulter the wank queen for these pathetic dorks.
Thanks for the translation. Can we get the whole dictionary?
I think it's kind of like how (allegedly) the Inuit have over twenty words for snow. The fundies have hundreds of words for "making Jeebus cry". For example, when they say, "redefining traditional American values," they mean, "making Jeebus cry." So, don't try to get into the real meanings of the words (i.e. so is defining black folks as 3/5's as valuable as white folks a "traditional value"?) Just accept that nobody wants to make Jeebus cry.
"Socialism," "global currency," "redistribution of wealth," etc. can all just be replaced with "making Jeebus cry."
Psychopathic drivel has found a home. All they are missing is Shirley from the Westboro Baptist Church.
And btw.. have these fuckers spaded and neutered.
Look deep into there Eyes and what do you See?
Answer: Total INSANITY.
"The problem, of course, is that no one is even remotely suggesting such a thing."
Why doesn't she introduce the "Stop martians from stealing our babies and using them as fertilizer" amendment to the Constitution?
Or the "Don't let them give the Statue of Liberty a sex-change operation!" amendment?
I think I need to record some of these programs and then play them back for my kids when they are older. My hope is that I can tell them that this is what used to pass as news and yes kids, that is an actual turnip as host. Back then The Fox Circus Channel was called Fox News and they had any number of vegetables and fresh fruit as hosts and people by the millions tuned in watch what could otherwise be seen only in the produce section of the grocery store or the farmers market; but of course, they didn't talk.
When Bachmann isn't around? I think this is the essential question.
Having a global currency would be good for other countries, especially those being abused by the United States. It would probably mean the end of obscene amounts of dollars being wasted on military bases around the world and the end of the American "empire". This can only be seen as positive to millions of people around the world concerned with the hegemony, wars of choice, militarization of space, neoliberalism, among with many, many other abuses of power since WW11. Bachmann is a nut, and hopelessly ignorant and will fail to demagogue this issue because her reasoning is flawed.
But good god, you can see the insanity flowing from Bachmans eyes...
It's kinda disconcerting.
Michele Bachmann is no Timothy Leary. She's _lots_ crazier. Just shows Republicans can get high on life.
You shouldn't believe the old stereotype of Minnesota holds anymore. Half the population and a great deal of the geography are red. Starting in the east at Michele's district in the northern exurbs of the Twin Cities there is quite a wide belt of red counties where it is easy to cross the width of the state without entering a blue county.
Leary wasn't crazy. How dare you compare the simple minded Beck and Bachman to a man who had a high level of genius.
..need pies!
Faux Noise has certainly turned into a comedy channel of uneducated, braindead zombies.
I am not sure what to make of this. It's like they know we are going to riot soon and wanna make certain we riot against the government and the white house as opposed to the 2000 or so people/corporate whores who are trying to set up a world spanning banking and ownership industry.
That in my mind is way worse. They managed to destroy the world economy and as a reward, want us to give them more power.
They copyright our DNA and feed us frankenfood and want MORE power?
25% of our kids are on psychoactive medications for fake diseases like "being a little bastard" and "restless legs".
They have us practically from birth to grave, what else can they take from us?
We cant even have a bank card without an RFID chip in it.
I'm sorry but I'm a little upset right now. I'm upset that the country my grandfather fought for has been sold by my parents generation. In exchange, we get cheap plastic crap from China.
Login or Register to post comments.