Is George Bush off the wagon? Or was he ever really on it?
Watertiger notices that the Preznit had himself a drinky-poo at this weekend's Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation gathering in Lima. It's described in this AFP report too:
Even teetotalling US President George W. Bush, who famously quit drinking at 40, was spotted apparently sipping a pisco sour during the summit on Saturday.
It was unclear whether he actually drank any, or whether it was an alcohol-free version.
The White House rebuffed questions about the matter.
Libby Spencer at The Reaction observes that this isn't the first time in recent months that Bush has appeared have been drinking.
Of course, the whole "Bush as a teetotaler" story always had the appearance of being more propaganda than reality. Jane has written convincingly that Bush evinces the classic symptoms of the "dry drunk". But I've always wondered, honestly, just how dry he's really been these eight years.
Certainly the wreckage he's leaving behind isn't the mark of someone in full command of his faculties. But that may be another story.
John Amato:
And since the National Enquirer is now considered a legitimate news source by right wingers after Edwards, how can they refute this 2005 report that said Laura was very upset over it and planned to monitor him.
Bush, who said he quit drinking the morning after his 40th birthday, has started boozing amid the Katrina catastrophe.
Family sources have told how the 59-year-old president was caught by First Lady Laura downing a shot of booze at their family ranch in Crawford, Texas, when he learned of the hurricane disaster.
His worried wife yelled at him: "Stop, George."
Following the shocking incident, disclosed here for the first time, Laura privately warned her husband against "falling off the wagon" and vowed to travel with him more often so that she can keep an eye on Dubya, the sources add
always a boosh
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common sense matters as much as truth
that he wasn't fluthered at the Olympics in China...
...and I'll tell you that I'm drinking near beer now.
Objective symptoms included the flushed face caused by the dilation of blood vessels not to mention the falling down bit or the disgusted looks from daughter Babs.
I can still see Bush in the videos from the Olympics in China, staggering around and falling, his men had to help him to his seat. And then he sits there with that "drunk" look on his face. Looks like a drunk to me.
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Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I say get him as drunk as you can and keep him that way. Maybe he won't be able to do any more harm.
Surely, you jest.
But stop and think a second.
If you were personally responsible for what the United States has done since he took office, what would you be doing now to numb your consciousness?
It wouldn't surprise me if he's just started on the bender of a lifetime leading up to Inauguration Day.
I saw in Breaking News during "Hardball" that he had pardoned 14 people....:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27895909/
A shot of Jack Daniels for each pardon ought to just about put him under the Oval Office desk.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
matters of state; no need for me to think the alcoholic was ever telling the truth bout his drinking -- I mean really, I grew up in that kind of household, and believe, drunks 'always have it under control.' At least they think they do.
This SOB never had any cred about anything he said. "I quit drinking" is just another statement he said, which I never believed.
me-oww!
but sometimes the Enquirer gets it right.
Sometimes.....
From his claim of "born again Christian" to quitting drinking, Bush has lied for the past 8 years. He only was kissing up to the evangelicals and it worked. They thought he was one of them. LOL
I thought he was drinking from the time he "choked on a pretzel." He may have been a dry drunk for a while. But since he's never had to take responsbility for anything, I think he started drinking shortly after the Iraq invasion. The "aging" he's gone through in the last 8 years isn't typical aging. Yes, he's gotten grayer and 8 years older, but his inability to communicate etc is nothing more than the fact that he started drinking again. His appearance. Flushed cheeks, broken veins. Etc. The man has been drinking for quite a while.
I would have to get good and drunk and stay that way so I wouldn't have to think about the millions of the tortured and dead and dying I had caused. I would have to pass out each night so I could get to sleep.
Bastard.
Didn't he make that remark when asked by a reporter? He doesn't have trouble sleeping at night because he passes out.
that's just proof that Bush is a sociopath without a conscience.
a mixture of imminent relief and self-disgust. Don't get between him and the glass unless you want hurt.
It's not so pathetic, his being an alky, but it's the lies. The denial. He's a shell of a man.
symbol of the American "conservative" movement.
Hollow.
to hope this asshat becomes one of those public horrific drunks that ruins the lives of his wife and children in dazzling tailspinning crash and burn. But I only hope that instead of actual criminal justice.
Having once been the daughter of a world class alcoholic, I can tell you that so much of what bush does reminds me of my dad and his personality.
That episode we saw in China with him falling, or whatever the hell happened, brought back some chilling memories of my dad in the same condition. That could also explain why his daughters aren't around more often than they are. I understand why they wouldn't want to be.
Everytime my dad came off a binge, he always said it was the last time and he wouldn't drink again. That was never the truth as he died in the midst of a binge.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I threw out the booze and was greeted with the business end of a switchblade. Never touched his booze again.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Shrub always knew he was in over his head, and that he didn't have the abilities of either Daddy or Jebbie.
This, I think, drove him back to the bottle.
I think Sarah Palin could see from her house that Dubya has been drinking. For a while now.
evokes the notion that the man has a conscience, and is drinking out of guilt. There is nothing in this mans history of fiber that would lead anyone to believe he is anything short of a complete sociopath.. still when all is done, he will go into "rehab" and blame everything on his addiction. I can't wait to see this man leave office and for someone to finally prosecute this bastard and his clan.
Maybe he just got annoyed at suddenly being asked questions, like "where the fuck are you".
I'd be unable to make a medical diagnosis, but the incoherence is not normal for some one my age, and he's a little younger. His claims of being 'born again' also don't gibe with his attitudes, there is nothing of the humility that is usual for a practicing believer. Whether drunk and a liar or not, though, this is a war criminal. That is what I care about.
Hopefully nobody ever believed the Decider-in-Chief ever stopped drinking, particulary given his "choking on a pretzel" nonsense.
No, what I'd like to see is some enterprising Beltway insider blowing the lid on the President's Blow. The man is an addict, and I'm confident that a blood analysis would be dirtier than a puddle of Woodstock mud.
I hope President Obama has cautioned the kids against touching or tasting any stray 'candies' that Bush may leave behind in the couch cushions, or stuffed under radiators, or wherever.
"The Good and Great Must Ever Shun, That Reckless and Abandoned One
Who Stoops to Perpetrate a Pun," Lewis Carroll, 'The Three Voices.'
Am I really the only one who'sh notished him horribly shlurring hish wordsh over the last couple of yearsh?
"Trust no one, Mr. Mulder." - Well-Manicured Man
He always looked drunk to me, when he wasn't having moments of dry drunk rage, fear, and insecurity.
far left loon >.<
whose strings are pulled by others...evil fucks hiding deep in the shadows. How convenient for the string-pullers if shrub is drinking and has no control of himself.
Cheney comes to mind. Remember the pictures of him lurking in the bushes while Bush spoke to the press?
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Foster Brooks? Just asking.
thank you very much!
I knew Foster Brooks and W, you're no Foster Brooks.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Foster didn't drink. It was just part of his act.
He's a damn good actor.
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Has no one read Frank Rich's "The Greatest Story Ever Sold"? Rich makes a good case that Bush drank no more than your ordinary Texan, and that Rove made up the recovered alcoholic story to pull in the evangelicals who just love redemption stories. Bush is supposed to have had his revelation while walking on the beach with Billy Graham. Graham didn't remember the incident. If it were true, you'd think he would.
Are you saying most Texans are drunks?
I am.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I will.
That's the only possible explanation.
far left loon >.<
"Following the shocking incident, disclosed here for the first time, Laura privately warned her husband against "falling off the wagon" and vowed to travel with him more often so that she can keep an eye on Dubya, the sources add"
So it's pickled, or Pickles ???
-Sweet choices are made of this...
a nanny from his past wrote in a tell-all he's also chronic bed-wetter: http://assimilatedpress.blogspot.com/2006/08/...
What a guy.
But it was also rumored that he liked to torture frogs. The only thing left is if he liked to play with fire...the three related traits of mass murderers.
Shock and Awe? Lots of fire there.
I mean, who among us DOES NOT like to play with fire? Now if you can tell how far he was into his teens when he quit wetting the bed...
On Edit. Heh. Didn't see the bedwetter comment above. Just MsJoAnne's comment
me-oww!
he tortured any small family pet and his younger brothers, too.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Got any links on that?
I learned that bed wetting by male children is a symptom of abuse by the major male role model of the family.
Interestinger and verrr-r-ry eentairesssting.
And if he wasn't, to be a bedwetter till college would make a person strange, I'd say.
Why ruin the party!?
No self control.
Please!!!!!!!!!
I think the whole nation took up drinking after Bush took office! I know I did, it was either that or kill myself!
I hardly ever drank until Bush was in office for a coupla years.
Gotta admit; I'm enjoying it quite a bit and I don't have a country to run...Hunter Thompson committed suicide....
I just blogged about this.
Many US Presidents suffered from alcoholism including; John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Franklin Pierce (Barbara Bush lineage), James Buchanan (3 fifths per sitting), Andrew Johnson (sloshed on Inauguration Day), Chester Arthur, Grover Cleveland, Franklin D. Roosevelt and the notorious drunkard Richard M. Nixon who is caught on tape smashed and ranting against every conceivable enemy real or imagined.
Surprising to some, U.S. Grant was not an alcoholic and died of cancer brought on by his regimented habit of smoking 20 cigars a day.
In a way I am glad Bush was and is a drunkard as it explains away the fucking walking disaster that he is.
Frank Zappa - Make A Jazz Noise Here
Does it? You just said FDR was an alcoholic.
Let us please not disparage people suffering from an illness by attributing the evil of W to it.
As Dateline mentioned above, Shrub is a descendant of Franklin Pierce, who is considered by historians to be one of the worst presidents in U.S. history. Pierce also drank himself to death after leaving office.
Let's hope Shrub keeps up the family tradition started by cousin Franklin.
FDR was an alcoholic but, that does not imply that it impacted his judgment nor was it to be observed in his actions/ results as President.
My post is factual and was not disparaging in anyway to anyone other than George W. Bush and get off the FDR ghost he wasn't god.
Frank Zappa - Make A Jazz Noise Here
has the tendency to cause sufferers intense neuropathy - nerve pain. President FDR's legs were ravaged by polio; so great was his vision for saving capitalism, he successfully navigated a successful administration through horrible times while fortified with booze.
Not always with grace.
Here in Amerikkka narcotic medications are considered "immoral" which has the effect of driving people to the booze for purposes of self-medication.
Most distillers, especially Seagrams, contribute to the RNC.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/gover...
believes in god?
Believes in jesus?
I submit the difference between those here and the squirells at my bird feeder is that those here are top predators.
Pisco sours are GOOD! And notoriously strong. It's not like he was drinking a white wine spritzer. That stuff will eff you up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71VLlRbDLtY
"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.
This may have been mentioned up-thread. But George Bush was deeply drugged the night he went on television to announce that U.S. troops were on the verge of invading Iraq. He wasn't drunk, mind you. Still, he was otherwise drugged.
I'll bet that he can get some really good reefer.
What a waste.
Another crime against humanity.
But I didn't have to attain world-class-arsehole status to do so.
me-oww!
His own doing or some doctor, or both (maybe he double dosed himslef-- woo hoo)?
far left loon >.<
Give our EMPLOYEE a fucking drug and alcohol test for God's sake. This guy has more responsibility than a garbage collector who has to pee in a cup.
Come on, I hate the guy, but this post is tasteless. He has done so many egregious things in the past 8 years. Let's focus on those rather than commenting on this kind of ugly speculation.
This is the man that the Pignicans ran for POTUS!
And followed up with a guy who (conveniently?) had his military records sealed(like Dubya) and a blethering, superstitious end-timer armageddonist!
That is how much respect that they have for you and the rest of us.
If it was drunkeness was his only flaw - that's one thing.
But it is only one miserable facet of a man who is a traitor to his country. The Chinese pwn us.
( Google "Plame Outing" and "bin Laden family flown out of country" for a start.)
I'm just getting started. This is brilliant. Highlight of my day. Tasteless? Like we should care after listening to these neocon idiots for the last 8 years, with their "fearless leader" poised to push the NU-KYU-LAR button. Gimme a break.
(Maybe you're one of those people that secretly voted for him.)
far left loon >.<
This post is not worthy of C&L. Let's talk policy, not tabloid trash.
The fact that a drunken, out-of-control frat boy has his finger on the button is of no CONCERN to you people.
Many Americans are forced to pee in a jar just for the privilege of stocking shelves in corporate stores that violate laws and ethics in any number of ways.
And this yayhoo drives the Ship of State onto the Rocks for the benefit of his cronies/the wreckers.
Move along; nothing to see here...
The word from a heroin addict who married into my alcoholic family is that the Bush tribe has been importing and selling heroin for at least 50 years.
And, as a bona-fide family member, long recovered and left the sob's, yes, Bush has looked drunk since his first term.
DJ Tom Joyner reported a drunken fall off Air Force One in 2003 or 2004.
The economic recovery package looks exactly like the drunken generosity an alcoholic provides to his/her friends to prevent criticism and purchase more friendship and tolerance.
Down here in the Old South, a TARP is a COVERUP...
did you say we should put our heads in the sand?
"Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying..."-------Roger Waters, "Comfortably Numb"
So you dont think a drunken president is worthy of discussion. Man He pissed away an entire counties fortune and has bankrupted the world. Only a DRUNK could accomplish that in 4 years. And oh by the way he lost the war on terrorism
This is the best post in ages!!!!!!!
Go to HuffPo.
far left loon >.<
Bush put his beer bottle behind his seat when he was on Letterman's show just before the 2000 election. Bush uses drugs and is and always has been a alcoholic. This was covered up for 7 years but all you had to do was watch, listen and see his body language to know he had been hitting the bottle. The overseas press caught alot of his drinking and mistakes. Most tried to make jokes of his missteps and blunders but the Foreign Press called it like it was he was drinking and had a little to much. When the Texas newspaper printed that Laura had filed for a divorce it was kept out of the Media. On Jan. 20th you wont find Laura at the Cawford Ranch but at the home that was built for her as her divorce agreement. At lease Justice Roberts isn't show boating his fake family as he got caught with his lady friend when he had the heart problem. Don't worry about Laura she got paid big bucks to stay for the 8 years.
I am a drunk. Ever since I was 15 I have drank to excess. From 1984 til 2004 I didnt drink but it was always on my mind. you never stop being a drunk I have been drinking since 2004 Actually dry drunk is worse because it leaves you vindictive Dubya has been drinking you can see it in his face
1) The pretzel incident.
2) Falling off a Segway (a SEGWAY for chist sakes!).
3) Hitting a tree with his bike, and him a biking enthusiast.
4) All of 2001 - 2008
The signs were there folks, they were just ignored.
His worried wife yelled at him: "Stop, George."
per the National Enquirer -
I'm convinced...
lol
He may have developed a case of tirets or some other disorder...but have ya noticed his Jaw grinding....just like some one on Ecxtacy of grade A blow,cola,coca,cocaina,white lines....yep get along little doggy hes a rootin TOOTIN cowboy
The same paper, the Enquirer, reported that Laura Bush is divorcing George, and that for a settlement is receiving a mansion and a ton of money to stay quiet. He is leaving the nation, probably going to the middle east to retire in Dubai along side Tiger Woods. Probably AT Tiger Woods IN Dubai (if you haven't seen that you should GOOGLE IT)
Anyway, the drinking and carousing with Condi was enough. She's out of there.
Hasn't anyone told Tiger Woods that Dubai is a slave-holding nation?
Wait just a minute. None of you can prove any of these assertions, but it won''t stop me from believing all of them. Got any more?? :-)
far left loon >.<
He's most likely soaking up the sauce again, bigtime.
But hasn't anyone else noticed over the last week or so,
that Bush has been exhibiting classic "cocaine jaw twitch"? Anyone?
Last week, I was watching C-Span. They were airing what I think was some kind of
annual Medals Of Freedom ceremony. Bush's jaw is all over the place in-between
handing the medals to the recipients.
And the last two times I saw him reading - er, I mean giving a speech - he seemed
like he was lunging forward while talking, extra impatient, and speaking loudly.
Seriously, I think he's snorting up major rails of cocaine again.
I mean, wouldn't you wanna get drunk and snort coke - knowing you're basically
THE most hated person on the planet? An utter failure in everything you've touched?
The most unpopular president in the history of presidential poll-taking?
Meanwhile, your successor is the most POPULAR in a generation?
Yeah, you know those Bushies have connections to the good white stuff.....
I bet he shows up bombed at the inauguration ceremony especially if it's a very cold day in Washington. I'm praying for snow.
This sorry excuse for a human being has been drunk since he was able to get the booze up to his mouth,all by himself, and I bet he uses the illegal drugs as well-Reefer, coke,etc ?Oh fug, I think I'm making myself ill so I'm done with this comment!
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Good. Maybe he'll resume "chasin' p***y" and "huntin'" with the boys -- preferably Dick Cheney, who's been known to bag some real game now and then.
"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au1ZOA9iH3I
This very popular video shows George bush at 47 years old, drunk as the skunk he is....
Drunk, sober... with this bozo what difference does it make?
I'd say there is a really good possibility that he's back at it. All the misfortunes and the rejection by the American people and media would get anyone who is a true alcoholic drinking. He, supposedly, did it all on his own, without the help of any program. Therefore, there is no one to monitor his day-to-day sobriety. Good plan if you want to drink; bad one if you want to stay sober.
I share a birthday with him. I'm also sorting through (at 50!) a lot of childhood and mother issues. I'm actually starting to pity W. The true responsibility for him lies with his mother, Barbara the elder witch, and the truly evil George Senior.
Seriously, they did a number on Junior from the time he was born. His whole life speaks of parental abuse, from the drinking to the failing to the rebelling. Poor man is a mess.
The Republicans are responsible for foisting him on the nation, but his parents are responsible for basically ruining him from day one.
I'd hate to be him. I'd probably be contemplating suicide at this point.
The Bush family is probably just about the most evil family to ever beset America. We've had to live with their evilness for close to a century. Is there anything we can do to banish them wholesale to the shadows where they belong?
I love Pisco sours, even for breakfast!
Whether it is fueled by alcohol or self-delusion, Bush's brain is disaster of gigantic proportions. I am SO glad that impeachment was taken off the table. He is sick, he needs our help, we need to help him into a orange jump suit and check him into Gitmo.
What happened to the good old days when a president could drink himself silly and no one cared or even noticed? Grant was drunk all the time. So was Roosevelt. Just look at the photos. Our world is getting more and more pussy by the day. Used to be a man could drink 3 Martini lunches and start the scotch at 5. It's sad.
I'm pretty sure Winston Churchill was drunk all the time, too. He looks like he went through a fifth of gin a day.
Let the chimp have a drink or two. It's not like he could do the job sober either.
Now, if you'll excuse me, my tumbler of gin is empty. Time for a refill.
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