Georgia Republican wants 'Year of the Bible' so we can be aware of freedoms Obama's taking away
By David Neiwert Wednesday May 27, 2009 5:45am
Rep. Paul Broun, R-GA, was on Fox and Friends yesterday touting his proposal to have Congress officially designate 2010 "The Year of the Bible", and he had an interesting rationale for it:
Broun: Well, it's all about freedom, actually. The Bible was the basis of our laws, it was the basis of the Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence -- the Bible was the founding source.
Hmmmmm. Well, some of us have heard otherwise, but OK, whatever.
You may remember Rep. Broun. Last November he won lots of friends on both sides of the aisle and in the White House when he warned that Obama was preparing a Hitler-like dictatorship with his civilian-youth-corps proposal: "That's exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it's exactly what the Soviet Union did ... When he's proposing to have a national security force that's answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he's showing me signs of being Marxist."
Broun is, of course, asking President Obama to issue this proclamation. And what will Obama achieve by issuing it?
Broun: The Bible was the basis of our nation. And as we look to the future, and as we deal with our economic problems, as we're stealing our grandchildren's future, we need to look at the principles that were taught Biblically. When our Founding Fathers established this country, they established it on freedom. That's what the Bible teaches. Every single one of our laws are based on the Biblical precepts. And we need to turn back to those precepts if our country's going to be strong and great again.
It's absolutely critical for us to understand what freedom's all about, what our own responsibility is all about, and what government's function within our society is supposed to be. And we have forgotten that in Washington. We are heading down a road that's going to destroy our nation. We are headed toward a total government control of everybody's lives -- a loss of freedom, a loss of our money, a loss of our private property -- and it's extremely critical now for us to go back to those foundational principles that this country was founded upon.
That's the reason a proclamation of "The Year of the Bible" will help people understand what the importance of those, um, principles are all about as we go forward to make our nation secure, free, and great again.
Oh. OK. So you want President Obama to issue this proclamation so right-wing nutcases like yourself can hijack the entire text of the Bible to promote your teabagging brand of politics. Whose entire purpose is to undermine the agenda of both the president and the Democratic Congress.
Right. Well, lots of luck with that, Rep. Broun.
You can't make this stuff up.
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Why not a year of philosophy?
Religion's included under theology.
Every year for the last 29 years has been the year of asshattery.
Everything in philosophy, religion, and theology is fouind and contradicted in the Bible, and 2004 really should be the Year of the Red Sox.
any fact can be contradicted with rhetoric that someone pulls from their nether regions.
what a loony toons...
Progressives need to eliminate all people associated with religion from the movement while we got the momentum.
You operate under the assumption that we don't know you're a troll. Ralphie, our arms are still sore from your last pinata secession here. Go back to Fox for a few weeks...beating on you isn't fun right now.
The Republicanlike strategy of eliminating anyone who doesn't subscribe to your canon of core values seems to be a winning strategy doesn't it? A real election winner that one.
like a bludgeon either.
And who's this "we" you're talkin about.
You ain't no progressive.
Are you suggesting we "just kill them," as some would do to terrorists. Sorry bro, that's right-wing thinking. You won't find it here.,
I can haz....
Year of the Torah/Talmud
Year of the Koran
Year of the Veda
Year of Wiccan
Year of the "crazy twisted druidic/celtic goddess of death/vegetarian kinder gentler necromancy" my brother in law follows.
Year of Satanism
...Leader and Cramthra!!
You forgot Year of The Flying Spaghetti Monster!
the touch of his noodly appendage compelling me to lunch. Ramen!
the bible already has friday through sunday, and now he wants a whole year? sheesh.
he acts as if the entire bible is full of good deeds and justice--a book of just law from start to finish. as a 4 year old i could tell him the 10 commandments (or at least the several that apply to secular society), with out even reading the bible.
all i can say is thank god we are not ruled by biblical law.
I thought Rob Halford's gay.
Nihilism.
it's time for internment camps for the reichwingnuttia
fake christians. i am fucking tired of their
righteous bullsh*t. if anything or group is destroying
this country and it's high ideals, it's the bigotry,
racism, and backstabbing crap that comes from the
reichwing bastards and their inbred brainless heads.
of the TORAH--- THEN THE KORAN AND SO ON! THESE ARE IDIOTs....They need to get a life....
If Obama declares this proposal, wouldn't that undercut the rationale behind making the proposal in the first place?
It's a tautology, or sleight-of-hands.
on you head son. You muscles up there are sleightly taut.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv-34w8kGPM
before my teen age boy gets home.
This man is a hot mess, I'm from GA and I certainly didn't vote for this fool.
Broun: Well, it's all about freedom, actually. The Bible was the basis of our laws, it was the basis of the Constitution of the United States, the Declaration of Independence -- the Bible was the founding source.
Allowing unmitigated, bald faced asshattery like this to pass unchallenged is at the very essence of what is wrong with our media and our country.
I hope Ronald Reagan and Lee Atwater are burning oh so slowly and oh so painfully in the depths of hell.
If there's any justice, they've been skewered asshole-to-appetite and are roasting to a golden brown perfection over a rotisserrie pit deep in the 11th level.
Here thou goest:
http://www.4degreez.com/misc/dante-inferno-te...
I don't know which one is more fucked up. A God who will forgive anything as many times as you wish or a book that will justify anything (keep looking, you'll find it)no matter how hateful. Get a load of the God of the GOP - they don't come more hateful, do they?
GOP: "I will not allow children sex education or abortion!"
Are they trying to become a "permanent minority"? Parading out dishonored Newt, Dick Cheney all torture all the time tour, Rush Limbaugh, excommunicating Colin Powell, clueless "Teabag" celebrations, smearing Sotomayor, posting the 10 Commandments, threatening to secede, and now "The Year of the Bible".
Here's a hint for you (I really shouldn't): "Gimmicks like this don't win you new support, and will not appease your existing base."
want the "year of the teabag" and parade his balls around town.
Zing!
sometimes if shows like Fux and Friends don't have these ass clowns on just to show how whacked out they really are. Lately it has just been kind of a collective descent into insanity by the republican party, but for some reason they keep doing it. Whether it is Michelle Bachman, or this ass, or Limbaugh, it is like watching a 50 car pile up on the highway...you're shocked and disgusted by it, but you can't turn your eyes away.
Permanent minority! Oh Baby, keep it coming!
...evolve or perish. They've selected themselves for extinction.
I bet this asshat is against releasing photos of torture because it would put our soldiers in danger, and is against closing gitmo because it would put all of America in jeopardy, but thinks having the prez proclaim 'year of the bible' is good.
What an embarrassment to our state. Hope the majority in this state see this crap for what it is soon.
I can tolerate Christians so long as they don't flaunt their lifestyle or try to convert my kids.
I can tolerate Christians so long as they don't flaunt their lifestyle or try to indoctrinate my kids.
but they are fewer and farther between these days unfortunately.
Good one.
But you're actually on to something there. The Christocrats see the Homos as dangerous, because they think they're like them - out to colonize the world and convert everybody.
That would be bad. Unless you're a Christian, in which case it's good.
Isn't it interesting how often it keeps coming down to a matter of projection for republinazis?
Are fashion tips OK, or off the table?
can go fuck himself.
an all-powerful God of the entire universe would not need some earthly nation to declare anything in His name...
If my comments offend anyone on this thread...you can go fuck yourself too.
I've had it with these motherfuckin churchies pushing their beliefs on everyone.
ENOUGH!
Babbling country bumpkin wants the President to "issue a proclaimation" for everyone to have the "freedom" to read the fucking bible. What a dumbass.
They're fuckin dangerous, for real!
people understand what the importance of those, um, principles are all about as we go forward to make our nation secure, free, and great again.
You mean since Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld hosed us all?
which is why working on the sabbath is a federal crime with stoning as the minimum penalty.
Yahweh, the Founding Fathers sure missed the boat...
http://pressiechurch.org/Theol_2/All%20613%20l...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/987736/BIBLE-HAS-MO...
This Georgia nut is a classic NON-Christian in the vein of the Sarah Palin's of this country.
Fucking religion, fucking religionists, and fucking accomodationists. You are destroying America.
And oh yeah...Dear god, please protect me from those who believe in you. They are fucking insane.
Has anyone seen this article related to the GQ piece that's coming soon regarding George W. Bush's discussions with Chirac and the Middle East and the fact that he was on a mission from God ala the Blues Brothers to wage a Holy War in the Middle East. The whole thing is creepy as HELL and is coming to a newstand near you soon! This means we had a raging LUNATIC in charge for eight years!!!:
http://www.alternet.org/story/140221/
but haven't read it all yet.
And I've been saying that for 8 years.
Quelle surprise.
He wasn't really in charge. Cheney was. I cannot wait to read the article, though.
plenty of stuff in Dubya's End Times beliefs for Cheney to exploit politically. Sure, it's George who probably believed that Russia and Iran were the Gog and Magog of the Bible, but I highly doubt Cheney would want to discourage him and other evangelicals in those beliefs if it gave Cheney a little extra support and push to be able to attack Iran.
What does this guy do in his off time, stand on the street corner with his "The End is Near" sign?
Actually the basis for most legal systems is the Law Library of Hammurabi and Roman Civil law. Common Law came from Pagan Germanic tribes.
About the best Christian law gave us was trial by ordeal, and special classes of law: blasphemy and heresy.
The basis for Christianity itself comes out of the groups you mentioned, and quite a few more.
and it's extremely critical now for us to go back to those foundational principles that this country was founded upon.
Like expansionism, land grabbing, and the genocidal extermination of the original inhabitants.
slavery, Manifest Destiny, property (i.e. women) rights...
These FAKE RELIGIOUS, hate monguering, Reslug pigs are always the ones that cheat on their wives, steal, and lie through their teeth to any ignorant fool who will listen and donate money to pay their bills and put them a mansion.
???
"guvment" in "Washton"
What a backward Mullah hick. Jettison the backward ass south already so we can advance as a peoples and a nation. They have drug this country down long enough. Where was this hick when that so called Christian in the White House was spending our children's future, killing hundreds of thousands of innocents in a trumped up war, limited freedoms by trampling the constitution, torturing, warmongering and lying to the American people?
What a bible thumping asshat.
Sure. As long as it's also the Year of the Koran, The Talmud, The Origin of Species, The Bhaghavad Gita, Gardnerian Book of Shadows, The Sacred Texts of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, The Kitáb-í-Áqdás, The CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, The Merck Index, the collective writings of Carlos Castenada and others. Otherwise...no deal.
Do you have a source for the Sacred Texts of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? I've been searching for spiritual guidance, and I think Pastafarianism may be the most fulfilling.
...is the letter to the Kansas School Board, near as I can tell. an inspiring work. Found it on the intertubes, once upon a time.
or a truck?
...I was tripping my brains out at the time.
so, if 2010 is the year of the bible, what will 2011 be--the year of the Koran? And I'd add: so is this year the year of the Torah? Broun should be a manager of a Chick-fil-A. Maybe asst. manager.
can we have a Year of "I, Robot", a Year of "The Foundation Trilogy" and a year of "Stranger In A Strange Land" tooo! Puleeeeease.
Judge Sotomayor and I would like a year of The Nancy Drew books.
I would like a year of the LOTR trilogies, preceded by a year of the hobbit.
"the Year of the Truth." But not too many congress critters can handle the truth.
You crazy or sumthin? ;)
That would be the end of the world as we know it!
...that could implode the universe!
The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, either..
enjoyed them immensely.
Please summarize it in three words or less!
Handicapped man fantasy.
I'll check it out.
Triumph over despair
I should do that more often!
My favorite!!
You are so right, Abby! Makes me want to read it right now! I loved the Sign of the Twisted Candles and the Mystery of the 99 Steps, too.
To be followed by a year of Edgar Allen Poe! :D
...As long as we can also have the Year of the Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Universe, too.
That before any others by golly!
the Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul would be good, too.
would be good IMHO.
Can we swing in "The Number of the Beast"? It's a much better read than "Bible".
Word.
I, Robot? No thanks. But I will take Stranger in a Strange Land, as that does cover religion quite nicely. (I sometimes skip that section for it is very creepy.)
This coming from a Racist Nazi Committee member. Do these Bible thumping Anal Retentive Screwballs realize America can not afford to endorse anything these Morons say especially about the Book of Fairy Tales (bible). Just look at the flack these Hate Mongers threw out their on National prayer day. This is a Religion of Hatred, Intolerance, Indifference and Ignorance.
If it was a strong religion they wouldn't have to go threw the back door trying to pass laws to get support. It is TRULY a religion of HATE.
Make an impact...write your congress person. I did and I even got a nice non-form letter back.
http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State...
...the Imperial George the W'th version of the Bible. In that version, Jesus of Rothschild is born of sturdy blue blooded stock in a bank vault, goes to Andover and Yale, then begins his life's work: stoning adultresses, beating the shit out of the lepers, berating the poor, making a handsome cut from the tax-collectors, gaining dominion over the world through a slick deal he worked out with Satan, killing the sick by denying them health insurance, feeding the rich, clothing the powerful, giving shelter to the privileged (in his father's house there are many mansions), pissing in the wine, shitting on the water, drinking blood and eating bodies, generally prosletyzing his way around the speaking circuit and finally performing his greatest work, crucifying the poor on a cross of gold and sending them to hell.
The true religion. These "Bible thumping Anal Retentive Screwballs" (well said) are just showing how perfect is their faith, by living their lives as closely as they can to the example of their true Master.
If he is so worried about the constitution, why not request The Year of the Constitution? He might have a shot at that.
Ohhh...for a Year of Prostitution.
Better than a year of Destitution.
every year is the Year of Destitution, thanks to GW Bush.
Best two posts o' the day...
excepting mine of course, gems of wisdom and insight that they are. ;)
HA!
I crack myself up sometimes.
Then why isn't the ten commandments in the Constitution?
Didn't you hear? They were but President Radical Obama removed them. ;)
Give em time.
I'll second that one. Then maybe we can get an independent prosecutor appointed to investigate the torture scandal.
...we forget that the Constitution exists.
... freedom. Like in California with Prop 8.
They want to take away your money? Who? The government or the religions?
...both, actually!
We need to start getting ballots all across the country DEMANDING that EVERY person who RUNS for ANY office of government has to take classes and PASS A TEST showing they UNDERSTAND what the Constitution SAYS and a psychological evaluation to see if they are emotionally HEALTHY enough to follow it.
Every time these psychos open their mouths they prove they haven't even read the first page, let alone understand it.
What part of SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE do they NOT UNDERSTAND?
Maybe they just need a DICTIONARY!
Each of us has to pass a test before we can drive a car, so why not require pols to take at least a mental test before they are allowed to take a seat in any part of government?
I am so on board with this idea.
And a drug/alcohol abuse test.
who's gonna grade the test? The American People? A good percentage can't find their own State on a map, don't know their State Capital, have no clue what the Bill Of Rights is, don't know what the Second Amendment is, can't SPELL habeus corpus much less understand it, and couldn't name the Secretary of State if a terrorist was holding a gun to their kid's head.
Not only do these religious maniacs vote, they also get elected.
Publish the results and we'll grade them via elections.
They just memorize everything and don't use any critical thought. Our educational system is so screwed.
that would require a reading level above 2nd grade.
Our educational system is so screwed.
at least our childerns is larnin.
http://thepirata.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/...
the psychos like this guy have destroyed the "teaching" that used to go on in our schools, using "failing?" "new" systems that made a lot of money for people like Neil Bush to DUMB DOWN OUR STUDENTS and try to turn them all into psychos like them.
They set out to destroy Public Schools so they can send all the kids to Religious Schools. And they are still trying.
Dumb down the population and they won't KNOW what to fight against!
build their army of zealots?
Powers that Be have been working very hard over the last number of decades to eviscerate our public education system. A democratic republic needs at least a semi-literate electorate in order to function appropriately and in the best interests of the People.
The major education system these days is mass media: TV - Cable - Movies - Video games - Internet. Privately owned and unregulated by the government (for all intents and purposes). Until we can resuscitate public education, we'll be continuing the slide.....
But, I guess the 'good news' is that the illiterate among us cannot even read The Good News!
Well, considering that "Professor" Obama TAUGHT Constitutional Law, we can see where THAT has gotten us so far.
Did he name an independent prosecutor yet to investigate the torture scandal??? No? Did he reverse the FISA ruling yet? No?? Did he tear the Patriot Act into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds? No?? Did he declare AIPAC as an organization acting on the behalf of a foreign government as a foreign agent yet?? No??
I rest my case.
He didn't declare an organization consisting almost exclusively of Americans (AIPAC) to be foreign agents and imprison them? How unconstitutional is that? He should get right on imprisoning everyone one you disagree with. Freedom of speech, assembly and association be damned.
Evangelicals are the bullies and hypocrites who believe the earth is 6,000 to 10,000 years old despite it being 4,500,000,000 years old. The "rationalization" that the word "day" may not mean 24 hours is an admission that the bible IS NOT a literal document, but one that is literally dependent on the reader's subjective/biased interpretation rather than a verbatim dissemination of "god's words" or his intentions.
It's amazing that fundamentalists who claim to base their values on the words in a book pick and choose which words ARE and ARE NOT to be interpreted literally/factually.
Why should a book that has been translated numerous times from numerous languages by numerous fallible human beings over a period of more than 2,000 years be necessary as proof of and or a justification for one's moral values? When faith itself is completely ethereal, why do so many people base their religious values on the written word?
The majority of people who place so much emphasis on a bible DO NOT practice ALL the values in that bible nor do they project the grace and tolerance of an enlightened believer. Where in any interpretation of any bible does it suggest that god wants people to use his words as a political weapon or litmus test?
The "faux Christians" who do that aren't just misinterpreting words; they are perverting the spirit and intent of religion into a political/cultural sword borne of sacrilege and evil.
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Politicians exploiting religious groups and religious leaders using them to empower themselves. Which came first?
the religious leaders.
I would say THAT'S the oldest profession, and not as honorable as the other.
Look it up in the Bible. If you cannot find it, you are not correctly interpreting Revelations.
and I ain't gonna get one either.
I got the KJV Bible, the Koran, Selections from Sepher Yetzirah, commentaries on the Qabbala, The Egyptian Book of the Dead, The Egyptian Heaven and Hell, The Tibetan Book of the Dead, The Book of Mormon, Pearl of Great Price, the Doctrine and Covenants and way too many mythology books to count.
Oopsie...I forgot I have the Bhaghavad Gita too.
I'd love to see yer liberry.
I bet ya got damn near everything.
I'm particularly proud of my Captain Underpants collection.
be proud of indeed!
... toss in a Masonic Bible, assorted titles by the current Dalai Lama, Thich Naht Hahn, C.S. Lewis, and so on.
n/t
I've got about three translations of the Bible, I have the Quran, I have the Bhagavad Gita, the Book of Mormon, the Egyptian Book of the Dead, various evangelical riff-raff (that I plan to part with soon, in preparation for my move in the next few months), several books on Buddhism, several books on mythology, one on Taoism, one of Irish Catholic prayers, I have a Catholic translation of the Bible somewhere, my textbook from my World Religion class, etc. etc.
Christianity in the United States too.
Edit - And Native American prophecy too!
Well I have KJV and a newer translation of the New Testament, and a book on Hinduism, as in explaining what it is, but not scripture.
The bulk of books are on Witchcraft, where they magickally made my money disappear.
But I also got loads of books on the history of movies, and legal texts, a collection of the first five years or so of Garfield, paperbacks of Calvin and Hobbes, the Smithosonian collection of comic strips, and waaaay too many videos including about 15 silent movies.
The only Catholic Bibles I know of I do not own, the Vulgate of St Jerome and the Duar (sp?).
I've got all that I listed previously, plus I've got tons of books on history - different time periods, ethnic histories, women's history; I've got my feminism books, poetry collections - Plath, St. Vincent Millay; tons of dictionaries, several books in Spanish and German, anthropology and psychology, several books with photos of the art and artifact holdings of major world museums, Complete Works of Shakespeare, and of course, tons of how-tos on crafting, and a ton of cookbooks. Plus all the stuff that I have stored away that I can't remember off the top of my head.
We're a bunch of elitists, aren't we! ;)
One day, maybe I too can be an elitist!
"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool." - Mark Twain.
feckin genius that guy.
http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/Defymcbeth/Holyl...
Did Ned Flanders already do that?
Their mutual lust for power.
Sounds good to me.
P.S. - If there are ANY Georgians that aren't dumb asses...you need to move out of Georgia.
I was born in Georgia but escaped when I was a kid. I think by now the taint has been done away with....I sure as hell hope so.
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