The latest fake controversy on Planet Wingnuttia: Obama shook Chavez's hand!!! OMG!!!!
On this morning's Morning Joe, Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough were all over President Obama for having shaken Hugo Chavez's hand, and worse still, having sat through Daniel Ortega's anti-American tirade:
Buchanan: Barack Obama allowed himself to be disrespected. Now if that's the way he wants to do it personally, that's personal. But he's the President of the United States, and his country was savaged and smeared down there, and he grinned all the way through it.
Later, he continues in the same vein:
Buchanan: But I think he allowed himself to be disrespected. The perception was he was being made a mockery of down there. Chavez was up there putting that stupid anti-American book in his face. He gets lectured for fifty minutes, then he goes over to Morales and tells him how wonderful it is that he's an indigenous -- Morales is an enthno-nationalist. He believes the Spanish and the white people should be put down because they've run things --
Hmmm. I'm not so sure Pat Buchanan is the guy to be complaining about someone else being an ethno-nationalist.
Steve Benen is right: this is just another fake controversy like the DHS-bulletin flap, a hissy fit that lets Republicans avoid talking about actually fixing the nation's problems.
Obama apparently expected the excessive whining, and noted over the weekend the "great differences" he has with Chavez, including the Venezuelan president's "inflammatory" rhetoric and his unhelpful role in Latin America.
"It's unlikely that as a consequence of me shaking hands or having a polite conversation with Mr. Chavez that we are endangering the strategic interests of the United States," Obama told reporters. "I don't think anybody can find any evidence that that would do so. Even within this imaginative crowd, I think you would be hard-pressed to paint a scenario in which U.S. interests would be damaged as a consequence of us having a more constructive relationship with Venezuela."
That, of course, doesn't matter. Gingrich & Co. need a new meme, and they settled on this one over the weekend.
What I find odd, though, is the underlying message. Leading Republicans make it sound as if America's stature is so fragile, it is easily weakened by casual courtesies at an international forum. President Obama, in contrast, acts as if America's stature is strong, and can withstand a handshake with a foreign head of state. Since when does the GOP find it useful to promote the idea of American weakness?
We should be nice to Chavez, we may need to borrow some money from him later on.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
The aliens are coming!
We're already here. >8)
Hell I just want to rake leaves in peace without weird frantic people constantly dominating everything.
Everything's the end of the world for these people.
... is because none of their other machinations work as well unless we're afraid. We have to be afraid of terrorism, communism, socialism, fascism, liberalism, gays/lesbians, minorities, illegal immigration, and so on.
about their day without harassing and hassling each other?
at the sheriff's office if they wanted to stay in town and go to the saloon?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Faux had to have something that would stand up tall- their assends to give the rethugs somewhere to vommit.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
As I listened to the clip, I kept thinking, "What are you, twelve? You guys sound like Obama should challenge Chavez to a fight at recess." Then Buchanan came right out and said it! "Obama looks like the kid you can pick a fight with!"
And that's the grownup party!?
Yes – and I heard earlier that morning he got dressed by putting on Sock-Shoe-Sock-Shoe rather than the traditional Sock-Sock-Shoe-Shoe. This is Un-American! IMPEACH!
...early in the morning. Get ready for eight years of this TMZ dumb shit meant only to distract from the party of no solutions.
Eight.
just rake in the bucks with these TV appearances pisses me off.
...but Hugo Chavez mentioned that in the press event while shaking Obama's hand. He said (paraphrase) "with these hands I shook George Bush's hand 8 years ago".
I mean, it's not even like reporters had to dig that difficult research project up. Frigging Chavez said it right there this weekend.
that its bush and the neocons that Hugo hates. I still laugh when I think about the time he followed bush up to the United Nations lecturn and remarked that it still smelled like sulfur. Priceless!
Hugo Chavez and CITGO declared formally this weekend that they would now be granting an island (which used to have a CITGO refinery operating) "Petty's Island" as a 400-acre wildlife refuge to the state of New Jersey since Corzine finally agreed in January to that requirement of wildlife refuge. (McGreevey wanted to make it a commercial development.)
What kind of evil leftist tyrant America-hating dictator dares to give the United States an island for free? The menace! He's trying to buy us with gifts! They're probably hiding millions of troops inside the island! Don't go in!
who invented the salad they have at Italian places?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
The Roman general and Emperor who started the pizza chain.
Seizure?
he started the Orange Julius chain?
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
I'll bet he roped in Ethel too.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
leader of a nation that has taken shit because he is indigenous and knows what colonialism is all about.
Hugo Chavez has never done anything to me.
See, Chavez is a leftist. So he has cooties. And by shaking hands with him, Obama got the cooties! OMG!
already has.
I missed the video and photos. Is it true they only shook left hands?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
COMMIE COOTIES!
Isn't the commie mojo negated by shaking with the RIGHT hand?
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
working?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
like "We are all Venezuelan's now." Or I have lloked into Hugo's eyes and seen he has soul, man."
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
...Rumsfeld shook Saddam's. Memo to right-wing nutjobs and their media lackeys: get a grip. (No pun intended.)
Next media-manufactured, red-herring controversy, please.
and can change hands without missing a stroke.
and gain a stroke. If not that would explain all my blisters.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Hey Pat, exactly what are your qualifications to be an expert "political analyst" for any television program? Uh huh. That's what I thought. None.
Oh and rumour has it, when the cameras were off, Hugo slipped Obama the tongue and they swapped gum too!!!
Plus by now the right should realise the Bush approach to foreign policy is a failure.....
Soul-searing wailing!! Wringing of hands!! Beating of chests!! (instead of their members for a change) Eyes and arms cast to heaven in wretched despair!!
OH MY GOD!! - the wrath of the GOP is called down upon us from the might Reagan god ... who ... shook ... Gorbachev's ... hand ....
When a re-Thug does it - it's outstanding foreign policy. When a dem does it - he's pal'n around with the terrorists.
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Listening to local right wing radio is interesting-callers suggest the US special ops should go in there and 'mow down' Chavez and everyone else with machine gun fire'...
It seems killing is the right wing's answer to everything..
Yeah, on another thread we had "rightmind" using that same language. "Nukem" he said. Standard answer to foreign relations.
And Tom? How can you listen to that crap? My heart gets all pounding and I get flush with anger at the idiocy out there.
I am learning however to realize that they are the 20%ers and are quite marginalized and they lost.
but the idiocy out there has more than prepared me to deal with it here.
When occupiers turn to violence to protect their borders, they will foment violence internally against those they see as a threat to maintaining their ill-gotten holdings.
Just like the tea parties were a code for hate Obama, the manufactured outrage against Hugo is to kindle and fan the flames of brown hate among the base.
posted that the US should have nuked Iran, Iraq and Saudi Arabia on 9/12.
*give me strength*
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
I wrote a snarky post this morning about the hand shake, and later when Joe came on, he made my snark a reality. When Joe and Pat got going, I had to turn them off. Jesus, when Joe goes into him experience in DC bullshit, that's when I'm outta there. If he was such a great congress person, why isn't he still there instead of hosting the lamest morning show.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
But we don't talk about the dead intern in his office.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
IOKIYAR
I would bet money that there is a whole host of critics in Venezuela saying that Chavez let himself be charmed by Obama, and that he should never have shaken the hand of an imperialist yankee president.
He shook George Steinbrenner's hand too??
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
One passes as Canadian.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
...and I still can't get over having a President who makes sense when he talks.
My god it feels different. And really, really good :-)
NOBODY 2012
"[B]ecause I like to know what I'm talking about before I speak." Beautiful. Just beautiful!
when Bush did his final tour no world leader would shake his hand....and those were our allies.
of catching Teh Stoopids
last year, America WOULD have lost a lot more allies, I'm sure.
I don't think many of us Australians would have had the stomach to stick with you through another 4 years of neo-con bullying and mayhem.
You guys didn't just dodge a bullet by not re-electing the Republican party, you dodged an artillery shell.
are so right.
I hate to attack someone personally, but his politics are cannot be separated from his person. Among other low brow moments, this guy:
(1) avoided service in Vietnam because his knee was apparently too bad for combat, but later became an avid jogger;
(2) characterized Nixon's ouster in connection with his the illegal activities at the heart of the Watergate scandal as a coup of a lawfully elected president, nevermind Nixon's unlawful conduct; and
(3) Stated in writing (!!!) that slavery was the best thing to happen to African-Americans;
I mean, he's a charlatan, and yet he's all over MSNBC morning, noon and night, reaping millions of dollars for making up stuff. Doesn't any at MSNBC do a credibility check at the door? Is it enough to be contrarian?
It would be more politically hazardous to shake Pat Buchanan's hand than Hugo Chavez's.
because outside the US I think it is.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
...it's because he is entertaining. I say that as I momentarily take a neutral stance on his presence on tv. His blustering opinions are windy, spicy and often inflammatory. Entertaining.
Now, neutrality turned off again, I do not think the news and/or current events should be sold to us as entertainment, but there it is.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
The party of scare-dy cats. 9/11!
really sore losers. What are they supposed to do? Go about their lives? The republican and far right whine you hear is the sweet sound of victory.
Hali-fricken-lula!
It's like Scareborrow and Pukecannon are verbally teabagging each others "point"! Ew! I can't watch any more!
The Party of Hiding Under the Bed and Pants-Peeing.
Oh, yeah; and GOD!
and I never held that against him.
I wanted to, but I mean, let's be reasonable.
He may be a torturer and war criminal, but at least he's not a Marxist.
Perhaps I'm woefully uninformed, but what has Chavez ever done to engender such hatred from the conservative wingnuts?
without US help or approval.
of gas station/convenience stores.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Probably when Chevez said he could still smell the odor of the devil when he spoke after bush did.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
It is often a lingering odor when someone fucks the UN.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Something about giving back the country to its people. You know, typical leftist fascist commie stuff.
Nazi Commonism!
He didn't butt kiss Bush and the neocons, and hand his country over to American corporate interests, so he's 'anti-Murkin'?
Is that what you think Chavez is doing? I guess you really think he was democratically elected. I believe his title is Dictator For Life. Sound like freedom to you guys? A couple of quotes.
Chavez said Venezuelans should expect an "expansion of the revolution" aimed at redistributing the country’s oil wealth among the poor
Sound good? I guess so unless you are one of the ones that have worked their way out of poverty by your self. I am! It also sounds pretty familiar to me.
Hugo Chavez pledged to shake up Venezuela with a more radical version of socialism and forge a wider front against the United States in Latin America.
Against the who? Excuse me? My United States?
Latin America is not part of the USA.
So when "your" US does things like overthrow the rightful socialist president of Chile (Allende) in favor of
fascist torture enthusiast Pinochet - those ignorant Hispanics get all huffy...
When Negroponte helps the fascists in El Salvador set up domestic terror and death squads - those dusky people are similarly outraged.
Those are just two examples of US interference with sovereign nations.
Plenty more available.
with sharing a country's natural wealth among it's citizens?
Would you rather that the big oil companies stole it instead?
Do you think that is what is happening there? Do you believe that Chavez give a rats ass about poor people? I don't. To me he seems like every other dictator before him. Funny thing. It is almost always the ones that have the least that think it is such a good ideal to share. When I was poor. My son used to bring his friends over (who were even more poor) and would feed them out of our fridge. Finally I told him to stop. The little food we have is for our family. You’re three brothers and your sister. I can't afford to feed everyone I protested. His reply "Dad you are just stingy". No I said I am not and you will understand when it is you that has to make sure there is enough for your kids. He is grown now and he agrees with me. The short answer is that there is nothing wrong with Chavez sharing the wealth with himself and the poor. That's what socialist do. I just don't want to be one. I like Capitalism. It has been beddy beddy good to me. No I don’t think corporate greed should prevail. Why are they the only two options?
Do you think for yourself? Or do you get all your info from Fux?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Is that question even on topic? I never said that I felt threatened. I do feel concerned I have worked hard to get to where I am at (Damn hard) and do not want to see a policy swing take it away along with the traditions and values that I grew up with in America. Why are you so complacent? Did you know that it is not only you right as a citizen of the United States to question your leaders but your duty and responsibility? Why would anyone here hate me? I am your fellow American citizen. I would come to your aid if you were in need on the street. I don’t hate you guys I just don’t agree.
Makes you come off as being threatened.
Just an observation.
Thanks for your civility. We get alot of people that would qualify as being trolls.
Just flinging crap, just to see what sticks.
But , your last comment makes it appear that you feel threatened.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
that's because you are a selfish little man. As long it's going great for yourself you don't give a rats arse. Pathetic!
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
I don't give a toss.
How did you get that from what I said? It is not my fault you don't believe you can make it. I had faith in the opportunity my country had to offer and worked hard to achieve it. How does that make me the bad guy? Do you think that you don’t have the same chance to make it as I did?
"I like Capitalism. It has been beddy beddy good to me."
That implies it, doesn't it? At least it does to me.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
I don't give a toss.
What does that imply Alerta? you never did respond to my question? I wonder why?
Why would you wait until one of your fellow citizens are 'out on the street' before you would consider helping them?
Are you aware that the conservative neocons have been 're-distributing' your country's wealth to the richest one percent of your citizens for many years now?
What do you think caused this current financial crisis? Where do you think all that money went? You know, the money that has disappeared from peoples pension plans etc.
I'll tell you where it has gone. It's now in the pockets of the 'conservative capitalists' who run the large corporations, and the capitalist crooks who run the international finance and insurance industries. They've stashed your country's wealth in their own illegal offshore bank accounts, and have no intention of sharing it with anyone but their friends and families. They have already bled their countries dry, and yet they still want more.
Jesus! These corporate crooks have been ripping the rest of us off blind for years, and yet they can STILL find dupes willing to stand up and defend them.
Look, I'm all for free enterprise and innovation, but not at the expense of the majority of ordinary citizens. Please wake up and smell the sulphur!
Don't spin what I wrote. I never said anything about waiting. I do remember saying that "No I don’t think corporate greed should prevail". Do you not think Dave that A country as great as this can right it's wrongs without just throwing our arms up and scraping the whole thing.
Please Allow me to quote back to you what you wrote just a few commets above.
"I am your fellow American citizen. I would come to your aid if you were in need on the street."
That implies that you probably wouldn't come to their aid unless they had gotton to the point of absolute destitution. I don't believe I've HAD to do much spinning to take that message from you.
You also wrote,
"The short answer is that there is nothing wrong with Chavez sharing the wealth with himself and the poor. That's what socialist[s] do. I just don't want to be one. I like Capitalism. It has been beddy beddy good to ME." (my emphasis)
You also wrote,
"I had faith in the opportunity my country had to offer and worked hard to achieve it... Do you think that you don’t have the same chance to make it as I did?"
Based on what you yourself have written, it sure sounds like you are at least ambivalent towards the poor, if not downright disdainful of them. Why else would you write such distasteful things? Not everyone who IS poor DESERVES to be poor you know.
someone who works hard and gets sick? What about someone that works hard, much harder than you ever could, doing a job you never would for less pay? What about the Wall Street trader who plays with numbers on a screen, screws around with currencies and enriches himself while not adding a damn thing to the world? Does he "deserve" it? Do you and your country "deserve" to stand in the way of other countries economic development and democratic systems? You have more than any other country since WWII. It is not arguable, not “un-American”, it is fact, I will post some links if you’d like. You have a high standard of living (in this world of finite resources) because the country you live, and those like it, have kept countries like Venezuela poor and have monopolized THEIR resources. When that stops, when you can no longer violently stop their economic development and can no longer monopolize their resources, your standard of living decreases. You were born in a country with a large, active and violent military, and have a powerful economic system backed by a sociopathic economic philosophy that says you should do whatever is in your self interest (like making sure poor countries consume as little as possible in this world of finite resources). THEY "earned" most of your damn money, you probably did work hard but the rest was luck. Life is complex and you owe your standard of living to other people, doing horribly immoral things, far more than you'd like to admit.
When you include inheritance, when you include the financial markets and banks (which create wealth out of nothing for people who add nothing to the world), when you add in luck, when you add in the fact that many jobs that aren't essencial are paid far more than jobs that aren't, when you add in the immense and growing externalities (which allow stonger parties to push costs onto weaker parties) amongst other things, you realize the issue is far to complex to fit into your damn little head.
As I said in a previous post from some winger like you, Venezuela has a far better functioning democracy that we do and certainly better than our biggest ally in the region, the right wing, death cartel government of Colombia. In Venezuela if 35% of the people want Chavez, or any other politician, removed it goes up for a national referendum. Chavez was already put through it once (Venezuela has had more elections than any other country in the region and all of them have been monitored by dozens of international observers, including the Carter Center). If 10% of the citizens of Venezuela want a law passed by the government overturned it goes to a national referendum. Again, what boob would call this a "dictatorship?" Name a country, other than Bolivia (who, like other countries in the region are copying Venezuela's DEMOCRATIC example) or Switzerland has anything like this? Latinbarometro is a non-parisan polling firm out of Chile. They do questions across the region. Venezuela has seen the biggest increase with the happiness of their democracy in all of Latin America since 1998, the year Chavez was elected, and now have the happiest democracy in the region. So tell them what to be happy with, surely before Chavez Venezuela was more democratic (please explain how), had a better economic system (thanks to our…”advice”) and people were far happier with their government and democracy, right?
In 2007 Chavez had Venezuelans voted on over 80 laws at once, term limits (for all politicians, including the opposition, not just Chavez). No one in their right mind can say that one issue was rejected. When it was voted on by itself it passed, again, not by Chavez himself, the people voted on it. In Colombia Uribe bribed politicians in the government to allow him to run for another term (he wants to do it again). The bribes have come to the attention of the authorities are now being sorted out in court. Dozens of Uribe's party members, including his cousin, are also in jail thanks to ties to the death squads and drug cartels. His former campaign manager was busted at a US airport with tons of drug making materials and our own government said he was one of the 100 worse drug offending politicians in the Colombian government in the early 1990’s. He also has a history with the Medellin drug cartel. When the constitution was changed Colombians didn't vote on it, politicians within government simply changed the constitution. I bet that you don't even know this and haven't said a damn thing about it, because you have to be told what to think and Colombia (with the worse human rights record in the Western Hemisphere) is the largest recipient in US military aid in the region. I am so sick of situations like this, the political discourse in this country. 99% of the time, the ones with the biggest mouths know the least about what they're talking about and we're supposed to respect their "difference" (loud ignorance) of opinion on these types of issues.
so that no Venezuelan citizens are left out of at least a minimal amount of prosperity.
But even more so, he is perhaps starting to disprove the great Republican lie that "socialism doesn't / can't / has never worked"
Chavez is the devil because he runs his gov. FOR the...........wait for it......... THE POOR!!!, and is successful, and rejects world domination, especially by neoNAZIcons, he is independent because he controls LOTS of OIL!!, therefore can not be bullied, manipulated, exploited, or assinated. He is wise to the CIA machinations for the RICH, nips in the bud, CIA instigated violence against him, and heavens to betsy................called BUSH the devil!!!
On Beck tonight Rove said we are one generation away from losing our constitution and christianity, if people don't stand up and act. You gotta give Karl credit, he knows how to throw a lit match into gasoline better than most.
Joe and Pat would be better off just to go over to fox and rant there. Fox's audience would appreciate it more than we do. It's a pisser when you turn on Joe, listen for a couple of minutes to what he says and then turn over to Fox and Friends and hear the same thing from them.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
away from another Grand Jury summons.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I want his big bloated ass in handcuffs. How quickly they want to forget, that Republicans are the ones who used the Constitution as toilet paper and Christianity as justification to mow down another country, i.e. Sarah Palin ("The Iraq War is God's will") and DumbAss ("God told me to invade Iraq")
NOBODY 2012
Fergawdsake go after Obama for something worthwhile -- like his torture friendly positions and his abhorrent state secret policy.
for saying he won't prosecute the Bush cabal.
Yet another distraction from the GOP.
A handful of nothing with heads to match.
woodguy
What will be the next great outrage? They haven't said anything about his being left handed yet.
yeah they did. That was months ago
What is your conceptual, continuity?
on the correct lapel.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Obama calls it French Toast instead of Freedom Toast!
Impeachment hearings start next week.
NOBODY 2012
My cousin and I were talking in 2003 after the war started.
He said he would not forget the look in Bush's eyes. I was thinkung the same thing. Then he said "you could see him turn into a man with big balls".
I said he looked like a deer caught in headlights.
We had just seen each other in 2002 for the first time since high school graduation in 1971.
He voted for Bush. Twice.
I voted for Gore and Kerry.
Things change.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
Sinister I tell you. Just sinister!
One of the definitions of the word 'sinister' is - Left Hand.
Talk about your tempest in a teapot...
Come to think of it, that pretty much sums up the tea bag movement.
They all had the same signs all over the country. The same speeches by different speakers. Lame it was.
Ours was no different except we filmed and edited it to our whim. lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWyvDJvd340
Social capital? OMFG
for a little while, and pick up a book instead.
They have no idea how grossly they are being manipulated by right-wing corporate interest groups, and the politicians and media whores who have been bought off by them.
That video was truly depressing. At the very same time those poor saps were chanting U.S.A.! U.S.A.!, their pockets were being picked by the people they were supporting.
By, Will C. Justice
The culprit is "The Pledge." For years, Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, has been able to enforce a demand that Republican lawmakers take a solemn pledge not to raise taxes.
What this means is that all these lawmakers can do is propose tax cuts--to solve any and every problem-- even when the past 8 years shows that trickle-down economics and tax cuts for the rich lead to economic disaster.
Pledge-takers cannot support, even if the want to--needed projects such as high-speed rails or rebuilding American's crumbling bridges and tunnels and highways or health care reform if it means raising taxes.
What is the nation's main barrier to bi-partisan legislation? It's not Obama. It's The Pledge.
Pledge-takers need to know the words of Abraham Lincoln, the greatest Republican ever, who said: "Bad promises are better broken than kept."
GOP-ers now live in a fear of a nation of 23 million people that is 90% Christian and has a military the size of the NYPD! Oh noes! Run away!
-G
It's a tempest in a tea-bag.
You nailed it!! Great comment. OH,noes-------------run, run, run,
Only the most important stories! Not the economy, or the gross misuse of bailout funds, or people losing their homes. But the dreaded handshake heard 'round the world! In response, there will be another teabagging party planned.
Up next, Kim Kardashian with sports.
NOBODY 2012
gets to be too much for them they will gather together and play Lee Greenwoods "Proud to be an American", say the pledge of allegiance and bitch and whine some more.
Like they did last week
DORKS!
I refer to those types as patrIDIOTS.
hi ! mr chavez ? im here from the us government and, im here to help you! for gods sakes run !
called this the moment it happened
guess what???
nixon hugged the chinese premiere
reagan shook hands with soviet despots
bush tongue kissed the saudi ruler
and clinton got his .....>
news at 11
{ Joe, We're trying to cut back on the cussin. OK?
Thanks SiteMonitor}
its that simple
Yeah turn it into a race thing.
pat loves people of color....NOT
ya, its a race thing
dummy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT74-LiR4xA&fe...
LOL! You gotta love Cenk Uygur and The Young Turks
I love Cenk's closing remarks from that clip.
"Exotic?, I love that word. I'm gonna use that from now on. You know who's exotic? You're lookin at him. HaHa, I'm exotic up and down man. I got exotic covered."
Pat Buchanan is such a tool! Why hasn't he been tarred and feathered, and run out of town on a rail already?
For these neoNAZIcons color is the reason they hate O-bought-ma. They know that he is bought, and their 'boy' shouldn't do anything that they don't rubber-stamp.
now go hide your head in the sand.
do these people tell their kids to beat the shit out of the kid who calls them names?
whatever happened to "sticks and stones...."?
who cares if ortega says nasty things about us...if it isnt true, it means nothing
we should be bigger that this
the reason we arent, is that this country has been run by children for much too long
btw, look at kruschev and the shoe pounding incident...ya, that really made the soviets a stronger nation
obama is an adult...and he deals with situations as an adult would
get it???
But I hear you.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
(and their awful record on human rights) but be assholes to the country whose oil reserves are expected to outlast Saudi Arabia's? That's Republican strategy for you.
Maybe Obama is just smart.
Maybe, just maybe, he realises that our relationship with China has proven that the best way to deal with Socialists and Communists is THE FREE EXCHANGE OF GOODS AND IDEAS, (i.e. free market), rather than trying to overthrow DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED LEADERS.
Call him crazy.
running out of things to fight for
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
Buchanan is also the same guy that would've objected to LBJ shaking Dr. Kind's hand. Not to worry folks...he, Newt, and most of the older Right Wing Wackos will soon be gone and just a memory for us. 15-25 years for most of them and they'll either be dead or have dementia.
I laugh most of the time I see or listen to Buchanan. I think if I read correctly he supported the CIA spying on Dr. King...totally laughable. Just remember this people...since after Lincoln and time and time again the GOP usually ends up on the wrong side of history.
and they cry about shit like this?
WTF?
Are you kidding me. Under bush the left cried about everything and still do you can't even have a conversation about anything without you guys bringing up bush. I think that may be the reason you guys would stoop to defending Chavez because he hates Bush as much as you do. The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
Boosh's legacy will live with us for decades.
Get used to it. You helped him do it.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
I never voted for Bush.
what is called in juvenile criminal justice, an enabler, whether or not you voted for bush.
One must examine the past in order to understand the present situation
and to change it for the future.
Yes, it is unfortunate that examination of past mistakes seem to point
to George W Bush.
Have a nice irrelevancy!
Americans dislike the US so?. We've been nothing but saints over the years,
overthrowingsupporting their governments, improving agriculture (if you like sugar and bananas), helping themexploit, er develop their natural resources, set up proper economic markets and even guaranteed them spots at the Chicago school of economics!! Ungrateful Bast**dsSince when does the GOP find it useful to promote the idea of American weakness?
Since they're not in power.
Buchanan and Scarborough talking points were weaken by the end of the show.
The First Take down was from Mika (now that's scary) she asked Joe what would he have done. And Joe just mumbled around his words. Krista was nexts to take on Scarborough and Buchanan, he couldn't even get his republicans guests Mark Halperin and John Heilemann to side with him and bout time he got to Rendell, Joe Scaborough and Pat Buchanan looked defeated. They were ready to pound on Obama but couldn't even answer the question what would they do if they were Obama.
And it didn't make the situation even better when Norah O'Donnell asked Joe Scaborough the same question in 9/6am News Hour.
I was very proud of Mika for asking a logical question. What should he have done; What would you have done.
Joe Scaborough looked like the only friend he had in the world was Pat.
Oh please let Joe go into a snit fit and leave the show forever.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
and it was apparent that Joe had no response. He forgot his crib sheet of talking points and couldn't respond to this most obvious question that could be asked.
They have no answers, no solutions, nothing at all positive to bring to the discussion, just juvenile non-issues to stir up their unbalanced base.
woodguy
pat and joe are a couple of 1950 dinosaurs. How they are even on the tube today is a mystery to me.
They would rather he plays it like the moron before President Obama did. Do the soft shoe dance in front of the cameras. Walk up to locked doors and give them a good yank.
Come on America. Please, pull more head out of your ass. I hope we can lift our intelligence level up just a tad bit with someone in the White House that isn't a total buffoon. I've had enough of that. I've been ashamed ENOUGH!! Let me live out my life being proud of my country and my president, ok?
that Chavez HAS COOTIES????
Jeepers. I thought it was common knowledge. He's got really BAD COOTIES!!!
It's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
-George Carlin
Is there a GOOD cootie? Just ask'n...
How about our own meme?
"Gingrich and Buchanan want America to look weak!
Yeah, that'll work.
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And...
... We all know that (R)ush wants America to FAIL!
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.
"We only like right-leaning Latin American dictators who kill people and make them disappear". Just come out and say it, Pat.
Not some populist issue. But real confiscation of land and industry in latin america. The power of those that hold and monopolize power in central and south america are coming undone.
Buchanan is a mouthpiece to spew lies that further the powerful's agenda. He reports to higher-ups.
His opinions on these matters are nothing more than finely tuned rhetoric that are classic textbook maneuvers from any critical thinking course in college.
The republican party lives under the skin of a dead elephant parading about trumpeting to all who can hear their bellows and groans. Kicking dust and dirt.
Given that right wing Republicans are frightened, cowardly people, I'm sure they are hiding behind their shades afraid, thinking Chavez will attack us..
Exactly. "Commies, homos, secular progressives, oh my!".
the bedwetters and teabaggers certainly know better how to run a country (into the ground)
This is just wingnuts looking for something to complain about, of course, but part of the difficulty is that there are two contradictory ideas about honor at play here. The wingnuts seem to have a Klingon sense of honor: if someone insults you, then you must fight him or else you have no honor. But a completely different school of thought (Vulcan, maybe? :) says that to stoop to an aggressor's level, to lose your cool, is the more dishonorable act. A great example of the latter is Atticus Finch in the movie To Kill a Mockingbird: even when the fellow spits in his face, Atticus refuses to respond: total cool. Wingnuts probably think Atticus was a wuss (let alone that Jesus guy; I mean c'mon! You're the Son of God and you let them nail you to a piece of wood?)
the petty minutia, get your pen and take notes.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
Hey, Pat, you know how some people consider the US to be arrogant? Well here's a funny thing...
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