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Obama on bipartisanship: 'Doing nothing, that's not an option'

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At tonight's press conference, President Obama was asked a few times about "bipartisanship," probably most clearly by Chip Reid:

Question: Thank you, Mr. President. You have often said that bipartisanship is extraordinarily important, overall and in this stimulus package, but now, when we ask your advisers about the lack of bipartisanship so far -- zero votes in the House, three in the Senate -- they say, "Well, it's not the number of votes that matters; it's the number of jobs that will be created."

Is that a sign that you are moving away -- your White House is moving away from this emphasis on bipartisanship?

And what went wrong? Did you underestimate how hard it would be to change the way Washington works?

Obama: Well, I don't think -- I don't think I underestimated it. I don't think the -- the American people underestimated it. They understand that there have been a lot of bad habits built up here in Washington, and it's going to take time to break down some of those bad habits.

You know, when I made a series of overtures to the Republicans, going over to meet with both Republican caucuses, you know, putting three Republicans in my cabinet -- something that is unprecedented -- making sure that they were invited here to the White House to talk about the economic recovery plan, all those were not designed simply to get some short-term votes. They were designed to try to build up some trust over time.

And I think that, as I continue to make these overtures, over time, hopefully that will be reciprocated.

But understand the bottom line that I've got right now, which is what's happening to the people of Elkhart and what's happening across the country. I can't afford to see Congress play the usual political games. What we have to do right now is deliver for the American people.

So my bottom line when it comes to the recovery package is: Send me a bill that creates or saves 4 million jobs. Because everybody has to be possessed with a sense of urgency about putting people back to work, making sure that folks are staying in their homes, that they can send their kids to college.

That doesn't negate the continuing efforts that I'm going to make to listen and engage with my Republican colleagues. And hopefully the tone that I've taken, which has been consistently civil and respectful, will pay some dividends over the long term. There are going to be areas where we disagree, and there are going to be areas where we agree.

As I said, the one concern I've got on the stimulus package, in terms of the debate and listening to some of what's been said in Congress, is that there seems to be a set of folks who -- I don't doubt their sincerity -- who just believe that we should do nothing.

Now, if that's their opening position or their closing position in negotiations, then we're probably not going to make much progress, because I don't think that's economically sound and I don't think what -- that's what the American people expect, is for us to stand by and do nothing.

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So, you know, we -- we can differ on some of the particulars, but, again, the question I think the American people are asking is, do you just want government to do nothing, or do you want it to do something? If you want it to do something, then we can have a conversation. But doing nothing, that's not an option from my perspective.

Obama's strategy is a long-term one. If Republicans continue to obstruct, they're going to increase their own popularity, because he will have no trouble painting them as the source of their problems. After all, thanks to George W. Bush, they're already predisposed to think so anyway.

Later, Mara Liasson asks a similar question:

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Question: Thank you, Mr. President. If it's this hard to get more than a handful of Republican votes on what is relatively easy -- spending tons of money and cutting people's taxes -- when you look down the road at health care, and entitlement reform, and energy reform, those are really tough choices. You're going to be asking some people to get less and some people to pay more.

What do you think you're going to have to do to get more bipartisanship? Are you going to need a new legislative model, bringing in Republicans from the very beginning, getting more involved in the details yourself from the beginning, or using bipartisan commissions? What has this experience with the stimulus led you to think about when you think about these future challenges?

Obama: Well, as I said before, Mara, I think that old habits are hard to break. And we're coming off an election, and I think people want to sort of test the limits of -- of what they can get.

You know, there's a lot of jockeying in this town, and a lot of "who's up and who's down," and positioning for the next election.

And what I've tried to suggest is that this is one of those times where we've got to put that kind of behavior aside, because the American people can't afford it. The people in Elkhart can't afford it. The single mom who's trying to figure out how to keep her house can't afford it.

And whether we're Democrats or Republicans, surely there's got to be some capacity for us to work together, not agree on everything, but at least set aside small differences to get things done.

Now, just in terms of the historic record here, the Republicans were brought in early and were consulted. And you'll remember that, when we initially introduced our framework, they were pleasantly surprised and complimentary about the tax cuts that were presented in that framework. Those tax cuts are still in there.

I mean, I suppose what I could have done is started off with no tax cuts, knowing that I was going to want some, and then let them take credit for all of them, and maybe that's the lesson I learned. But there was consultation; there will continue to be consultation.

One thing that I think is important is to recognize that, because all these -- all these items that you listed are hard, that people have to break out of some of the ideological rigidity and gridlock that we've been carrying around for too long. And let me give you a prime example.

When it comes to how we approach the issue of fiscal responsibility, again, it's a little hard for me to take criticism from folks about this recovery package after they've presided over a doubling of the national debt. I'm not sure they have a lot of credibility when it comes to fiscal responsibility.

Having said that, I think there are a lot of Republicans who are sincere in recognizing that, unless we deal with entitlements in a serious way, the problems we have with this year's deficit and next year's deficit pale in comparison to what we're going to be seeing 10 or 15 years or 20 years down the road.

Both Democrats and Republicans are going to have to think differently in order to come together and solve that problem. I think there are areas like education where some in my party have been too resistant to reform and have argued only money makes a difference.

And there have been others on the Republican side or the conservative side who said, "No matter how much money you spend, nothing makes a difference, so let's just blow up the public school systems."

And I think that both sides are going to have to acknowledge we're going to need more money for new science labs, to pay teachers more effectively, but we're also going to need more reform, which means that we've got to train teachers more effectively, bad teachers need to be fired after being given the opportunity to train effectively, that we should experiment with things like charter schools that are innovating in the classroom, that we should have high standards.

So my whole goal over the next four years is to make sure that, whatever arguments are persuasive and backed up by evidence and facts and proof that they can work, that we are pulling people together around that kind of pragmatic agenda.

And I think that there was an opportunity to do this with this recovery package, because, as I said, although there are some politicians who are arguing that we don't need a stimulus, there are very few economists who are making that argument.

I mean, you've got economists who were advising John McCain, economists who were advisers to George Bush, one and two, all suggesting that we actually needed a serious recovery package.

And so when I hear people just saying, "Ah, we don't need to do anything," "This is a spending bill, not a stimulus bill," without acknowledging that, by definition, part of any stimulus package would include spending -- that's the point -- then what I get a sense of is, is that there's some ideological blockage there that needs to be cleared up.

But I am the eternal optimist. I think that, over time, people respond to civility and -- and rational argument. I think that's what the people of Elkhart and the people around America are looking for. And that's what I'm -- that's the kind of leadership I'm going to try to provide.



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If Republicans continue to obstruct, they're going to increase their own popularity, because he will have no trouble painting them as the source of their problems.

I was glad he addressed this issue and agree the strategy will make the republicans look like the self-interested obstructionists they are.

Shouldn't that read:

"... increase their own UNpopularity"?

Maybe it's just worded poorly. Anyway, it look as though Barack does have a long-term strategy ...

it could have been wishful thinking on the questioners part.

Either way- Obama is letting the repubs seal their own fate in the public eye-under the spotlight---JUST LIKE HE DID THE CLINTONS and then turned around and difused them with the SoS appointment! NO MORE OL GUARD POLITICS---I will shine the light on your actions for all to see!

Note that both of the clintons have been very below the radar...All the national/international ink has been about Jones/Biden/Mitchell/Holbrooke--all Obama's choices!

Love it!

If anyone is taking a party line at this point then you got your partisan blinders on. The stench of hypocrisy is reeking from both isles.

The Washington Morons - Driving Over the Cliff
Is there intelligent life in Washington, DC? Not a speck of it.
http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts02092009.html

In a few years pitch forks and torches will come for all on Capitol Hill.

)O(

Here's something the repug kidney stones could use a lot of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd-SpXJ3ops

with a whole lot more critical eye and I can understand the people who say he answers the questions but he really doesn't say anything.

that was much better

its the fact that someone is speaking in compound sentences that has you confused

allow me to translate

"i extended my hand, they slapped it away...fuck em until they come crawiling on hands and knees"

is that better?

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a hypodermic full of novocaine stabbed into your skull while musac plays.

He's incredible. He's been having an average of three press conferences a week, and spending most of the time talking facts and common sense. Bush held an average of three a year, and spent most of the time either stuttering, wrenching his foot out of his mouth, or bullying the press corps.

What was G.W. doing two weeks into his first term? I think he was on vacation, wasn't he?

kids coming of age today, finally have a leader they can look up to and emulate

i really hope things can be turned around

i hope the american people give this man a chance

and i hope the far left shuts up about minutae for a few months

The left (what's left of it after the rightward-and-over-the-cliff yank the Republicans have given to this country) are the only ones putting forward ideas that are going to do shit?

no

let's hope the "far left" (lol) keeps riding his a** the whole time; that's the only way anything will really change.

If the Democrats and Republicans were truly distinct parties with a distinct political culture, then there is currently no reason for the Democrats to work with the Republicans.

But the facts are this: Washington is corrupt, the political parties are corrupt.

There may individuals who are decent but they are run over.

Both parties have been feeding at the Corporate Trough for too long.

Every Agency in the executive is for sale.

Every Congress person begins their fund raising for the next election the day after the election that they just won.

Money in Washington doesn't just talk, it swears and screams.

Without reducing the obscenely bloated MIC Budget, without immediately ending the 'Wars' and their Off Budget appropriations.

Without ending the secret budget, secret government CIA.

With the vast bailouts to the Banksters.

With these enormous structural failures, this stimulus package is like CPR for a CADAVER.

He wants to talk about 'Entitlements'. That is Ronald Reagan's word.

corruption&power. same theme/storyline. we need bipartisanship to reduce/keep it in check. greed&envy
and corruption, desire for power over others is the human flaw. i'm NOT telling you anything you don't know. this will always be the quest. i give Obama credit for identifying and trying to change washington. this may be an impossible task but we will NOT know without trying.

is the Great Satan.

one must think in contrarian ways when on the topic of reagan. the problem is very few people can think in contrarian terms. reagan raised taxes in a big way after his first 15 months in office. he allowed/pushed for the "cheap labor" that is out of control now. he's fictious(sp) character to me. there is a book out by Will Bunch called Tear Down This Myth: How the Reagan Legacy Has Distorted Our Politics and Haunts Our Future.........looks like a must read.

too real to me.

He and his horrible legacy.

Yeah, "entitlements" is bullshit. Hell yes I'm entitled to it, I've been paying for it since I was 14. Medicare and Social Security aren't gifts from some benevolent father figure.

Why the hell are we calling them entitlements?

And Reagan was way too real.

You kinda sound like Joe the Plumber... Except, you know, since you aren't him, you were obviously "abusing" the system, instead of "paying into" it and then "using" it.

:-)

My dad actually told me, straight-faced and all, that the MAJORITY OF PEOPLE on BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE believe Reagan was most probably the best president ever! AND that same MAJORITY of PEOPLE on BOTH SIDES think that the New Deal failed!

I threw up in my mouth a little when he said that...

...with a straight face, say that "Reagan was the best president."

I shoulda have know then that it was a clear clue on the downward spiral this country was stalling into.

Every time I heard that line, I ask the person who utters it to list the major accomplishments of his 8 yr presidency.

I'll have to remember that one for next time!

As it was, they simply asked me who I thought was the best president and I said FDR by far.

At which point they started talking about how wrong I was, and how the New Deal was the single worst occurrence in the history of our country...

love Reagan and Bush for the same reason.

Both boiled things down to the lowest common denominator and played to the inner idiot in everyone.

Reagan did it cause he was an actor, so he knew how to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

Bush did it cause he really was an idiot. But achieved the same results because his handlers were smart.

Reagan...MUCH more evil. He knew exactly what he was doing. I hope he's toasting well in hell.

hmm

Given the word Satan is an Aramaic word that means "Ego or Selfish Fool" I would say yes Satan fits RR, but it fits GW better.

who's not being bipartisan here? obama and the democrats backed off the size and distribution of the stimulus package and were rewarded with three votes. thanks guys.

3 republican senator votes: "cost to America" = (1 million jobs)

...seeing Obama bend over while having a supposed "mandate for change" = (priceless)

in tax cuts, which will do nothing.

Except hasten hemorrhaging of red ink with no jobs attached.

In responding a question about Senator Leahy's proposed investigations into Bush lawlessness Obama said "So I will take a look at Senator Leahy's proposal, but my general orientation is to say let's get it right moving forward."

Couple that with the Obama DOJ today, before the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, supporting the Bush doctrine that prevents torture victims even from having their day in court and it seems painfully obvious that the Obama adminstration has no desire to hold Bush administration officials accountable for past misdeeds.

Sad. Tragic. America will never be the same. When the Republicans retain power again we will move that much closer to a police state.

...is that we self-censor the most important parts of the debate.

imagine, if you were a neocon crook, who was complicit in, oh, i don't know, hypothetically, a false-flag attack on america. suppose you're scared $#!+less you're going to get caught and tried for treason.

you hear about these things called blogs; you hear a lot of folks are talking about things in ways that circumvent the old traditional media/masses paradigm.

but then, when you go to these sites, you learn that the siteowners don't allow discussion or speculation about the crimes you committed.

you go to "daily kos", and the owner is bragging about how he ran off the "tin-foil hatters" -he's so proud, he's wearing it like a badge of courage. it's like an apple he gave his teacher.

well, i'd say if you're the hypothetical crook i just described -you start sleeping a whole lot easier at night, dreaming of lovely new crimes to commit when you wake up.

bullfroggy

If Republicans continue to obstruct, they're going to increase their own popularity, because he will have no trouble painting them as the source of their problems.

Shouldn't that be decrease their own popularity?

:So my bottom line when it comes to the recovery package is: Send me a bill that creates or saves 4 million jobs. Because everybody has to be possessed with a sense of urgency about putting people back to work, making sure that folks are staying in their homes, that they can send their kids to college.:

So he's waiting for thugs to go along with this, and that will be, say it together "when hell freezes over".
Then when will he grab the reins out of their hands and just be decisive and let the majority rule. That's why he's president!
That's why they're out of power! They've wasted ENOUGH of our time and treasure. God!

Wow. He spoke for almost 10 minutes. And that was just the first question.

It does seem impressive... but isn't this finally how it SHOULD be...

So hard to get over the low expectations set by former Pres Assmonkey.

I think a big reason why this has gotten away from the Prez is the way it's presented to the public. It should never have been called a "stimulus plan". "Stimulus" is an odd, vague word that most people don't understand. It sounds like legalese; it's a term that's only meaningful to those who already use it. The Republicans know that, and eagerly renamed it the "Spending Bill", since they knew that their only chance is to turn the public against it, and they've managed to poison the idea of the government spending on anything that isn't involved with killing foreigners.

Obama should have called it "The Jobs Bill" from day one, and should have pressed that name hard every time he talked about it. The Repigs would have had a hard time jarring that one loose, since it sounds like EXACTLY what the real people in this country want and need. It was rather naive of him not to see that and jump on it.

Anybody else notice Obama talk right over Helen Thomas?

She asked that oh-so-impolite question about what middle east countries actually have nuclear weapons. Obama said he wasn't going to speculate, but - HEY, look at that shiny thing over there.

she knew it was a loaded question

the point being, what right does america have in saying who should or should not have nukes

kudos helen.....NOT

iran should not have nukes, because that country is currently run by the leaders of a death cult

get rid of the mullahs, then maybe we can talk

right?

No, he really doesn't. And goddamn it, there isn't any evidence AS THE INSPECTORS HAVE SAID, THAT THE IRANIANS ARE DEVELOPING NUCLEAR WEAPONS. THEIR PARTICIPATION IN THE NON-PROLIFERATION TREATY GUARANTEES THEM THE RIGHT TO NUCLEAR POWER. PERIOD.

Imbeciles who are fighting over a big rock out in the desert, and have been for thousands of years, shouldn't have nukes.

Seems logical, doesn't it?

i know you are not, but they have nukes and are fighting over a big rock in the desert (what do you think is in the temple) and has a gov't run by militant extremists. if you are referring to iran, they are not fighting over a big rock in the desert but against foreign meddling that began around 1953, what do you think the embassy hostage crisis was about. except for turkey, it is one of the more progressive middle eastern countries even with the ayatollah in charge. we need to end any feud with them and allow it to modernize. i think there nuclear aspirations should stop, but the fear of iran launching a nuke to hit israel is far-fetched. jerusalem is one of the holiest muslim sites, it is where god is resting. would you nuke god? the real threat are the loose nukes in russia and the conflict between india and pakistan.

President Obama needs someone to come along after he speaks and spell it out for people:

There will continue to be consultation, unlike during the Bush presidency. This president will continue to make overtures to the opposition party, as opposed to how the Bush administration operated. There have been a lot of bad habits built up here in Washington, as we saw throughout the Bush presidency.

Maybe Obama needs to be conciliatory, but his surrogates don't, and they shouldn't be at all kind regarding the multiple disasters left for the Democrats to clean up.

"Obama's strategy is a long-term one. If Republicans continue to obstruct, they're going to increase their own popularity, because he will have no trouble painting them as the source of their problems. "

Fix "increase their own popularity". Also, Mara Liasson is being a horse's ass with this: "If it's this hard to get more than a handful of Republican votes on what is relatively easy -- spending tons of money and cutting people's taxes -- when you look down the road at health care, and entitlement reform, and energy reform, those are really tough choices.", when have the Republicans been willing to spend money (lately) on regular people? This is horseshit framing, plain and simple. I wish I could stand this woman, but I can't.

First of all, let me say how nice it is to see a President who answers questions in more than one syllable words, and DOESN'T SMIRK!!!!!

That said, I am concerned the fine line between 'partianship' and 'capitulation' has been breached.

The SINGLE greatest challenge facing us is the media. They are in bed with the corporate structure that brought us to where we are today.

Here's what Roubini has to say about our Financial/Corporate structure:

Roubini: The Anglo-Saxon model of supervision and regulation of the financial system has failed. The supervisory system relied on self-regulation that, in effect, meant no regulation; on market discipline that doesn’t exist when there is euphoria and irrational exuberance; on internal risk management models that fail because - as a former chief executive of Citigroup put it - when the music is playing you gotta stand up and dance. All the pillars of Basel II have already failed even before being implemented

This mess is so big, so GLOBAL, so devastating, NO ONE wants to accept blame for it.

You can bet your sweet bippy that when the media faces any honest self examination, they will change the narrative.

(Who the fuck was that idiot last night asking about A-Roid again?!?!)

We must have an honest media before we can have an honest political discourse.

this is one of many challenges, but an important one nonetheless.

you are right, "this mess is so big, so GLOBAL, so devastating, NO ONE wants to accept blame for it."

the media is the monkey for the corporate owners, and they will dance whichever dance they are told.

it needs to be "trust busted" teddy roosevelt style.

will that happen????

it would be good for the economy by creating new business, and good for the soul of america (if there is such a thing as a soul).

let's just be happy that president obama is about "talking", like adult to adult, instead of "talking down" like a parent to a child (bush). one nightmare is over, someone wake me from this dream before another starts.

but i am glad he answered it.

it was obvious as to what he is doing with the bipartisan talks, this kind of thing takes time; but the media wants to make some sort of narrative that he failed when there really is no end to this, nor was it ever intended to take immediate effect.

this will be the case as well with israel, the middle east, and any other foreign policies he will enact.

i recall this blog, and others, complaining why he was even bothering with bipartisan talks, after all, "he won"; now he has given an answer. i hope it was satisfactory. he is not a republican, no one-sided debate, no quick sound bite fix, no kiddie dialogue, no name calling, no debasement, and no "treasures of war"; so there is no party line, he is for the american people.

i hope he closes the school of the americas, or whatever it is called these days, but he won't. it would send a good message to our friends to the south of us, but it is something i am certain he is not even considering when he focuses on gitmo, even though they sprouted from the same ideological seed.

As an aside, I tried to befriend an angry Green Party guy at work. He threw me under the bus first chance he got. At first I thought it was just the "modern world", but then I realized we have a 5000 years history of exactly this.

we need to start pushing for term limits in Congress...the 'Ol Guard' is too far gone to do the work of the people on both sides of the aisle!

Obama has caused enough of the conservatives to have full diapers in the last few months...wonder if they make them big enough for limpbow or is he using a horse blanket or maybe that is why he is screeching ---he is sitting in it!!!!

at his 'town-hall' in Florida. One guy just mentioned that he was glad to be able to actually ask him a question...something he hadn't been able to ask 'the president' in the past eight years.....

You should have heard the audience cheer!

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