Obama steps up to the plate on the economy

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Well, while John McCain was busy floundering about today on the campaign trail, Barack Obama again stepped up to the plate and delivered a clear and detailed economic plan that we can quibble over, but surely demonstrates his command of the problem and his leadership. In distinct contrast to his competition.

No wonder Chris Hitchens endorsed Obama today. And Dennis Hopper is praying for Obama to win. And no wonder Obama's opened up a 10-point lead and McCain's favorability ratings are in the toiled.

My favorite part of this clip, though, is Obama's deft retort to the recent ugly tone of the campaign in the opening moments: When he mentions McCain and boos break out, Obama says: "No, we don't need that." The boos stop. He then adds: "We just need to vote, that's what we need to do."

Full transcript below the fold:

Remarks of Senator Barack Obama--as prepared for delivery

"A Rescue Plan for the Middle-Class"

Monday, October 13th, 2008

Toledo, Ohio

We meet at a moment of great uncertainty for America. The economic crisis we face is the worst since the Great Depression. Markets across the globe have become increasingly unstable, and millions of Americans will open up their 401(k) statements this week and see that so much of their hard-earned savings have disappeared.

The credit crisis has left businesses large and small unable to get loans, which means they can't buy new equipment, or hire new workers, or even make payroll for the workers they have. You've got auto plants right here in Ohio that have been around for decades closing their doors and laying off workers who've never known another job in their entire life.

760,000 workers have lost their jobs this year. Unemployment here in Ohio is up 85% over the last eight years, which is the highest it's been in sixteen years. You've lost one of every four manufacturing jobs, the typical Ohio family has seen their income fall $2,500, and it's getting harder and harder to make the mortgage, or fill up your gas tank, or even keep the electricity on at the end of the month. At this rate, the question isn't just "are you better off than you were four years ago?", it's "are you better off than you were four weeks ago?"

I know these are difficult times. I know folks are worried. But I also know this - we can steer ourselves out of this crisis. Because we are the United States of America. We are the country that has faced down war and depression; great challenges and great threats. And at each and every moment, we have risen to meet these challenges - not as Democrats, not as Republicans, but as Americans.

We still have the most talented, most productive workers of any country on Earth. We're still home to innovation and technology, colleges and universities that are the envy of the world. Some of the biggest ideas in history have come from our small businesses and our research facilities. It won't be easy, but there's no reason we can't make this century another American century.

But it will take a new direction. It will take new leadership in Washington. It will take a real change in the policies and politics of the last eight years. And that's why I'm running for President of the United States of America.

My opponent has made his choice. Last week, Senator McCain's campaign announced that they were going to "turn the page" on the discussion about our economy so they can spend the final weeks of this election attacking me instead. His campaign actually said, and I quote, "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." Well Senator McCain may be worried about losing an election, but I'm worried about Americans who are losing their jobs, and their homes, and their life savings. They can't afford four more years of the economic theory that says we should give more and more to millionaires and billionaires and hope that prosperity trickles down to everyone else. We've seen where that's led us and we're not going back. It's time to turn the page.

Over the course of this campaign, I've laid out a set of policies that will grow our middle-class and strengthen our economy in the long-term. I'll reform our tax code so that 95% of workers and their families get a tax cut, and eliminate income taxes for seniors making under $50,000. I'll bring down the cost of health care for families and businesses by investing in preventative care, new technology, and giving every American the chance to get the same kind of health insurance that members of Congress give themselves. We'll ensure every child can compete in the global economy by recruiting an army of new teachers and making college affordable for anyone who wants to go. We'll create five million new, high-wage jobs by investing in the renewable sources of energy that will eliminate the oil we currently import from the Middle East in ten years, and we'll create two million jobs by rebuilding our crumbling roads, schools, and bridges.

But that's a long-term strategy for growth. Right now, we face an immediate economic emergency that requires urgent action. We can't wait to help workers and families and communities who are struggling right now - who don't know if their job or their retirement will be there tomorrow; who don't know if next week's paycheck will cover this month's bills. We need to pass an economic rescue plan for the middle-class and we need to do it now. Today I'm proposing a number of steps that we should take immediately to stabilize our financial system, provide relief to families and communities, and help struggling homeowners. It's a plan that begins with one word that's on everyone's mind, and it's spelled J-O-B-S.

We've already lost three-quarters of a million jobs this year, and some experts say that unemployment may rise to 8% by the end of next year. We can't wait until then to start creating new jobs. That's why I'm proposing to give our businesses a new American jobs tax credit for each new employee they hire here in the United States over the next two years.

To fuel the real engine of job creation in this country, I've also proposed eliminating all capital gains taxes on investments in small businesses and start-up companies, and I've proposed an additional tax incentive through next year to encourage new small business investment. It is time to protect the jobs we have and to create the jobs of tomorrow by unlocking the drive, and ingenuity, and innovation of the American people. And we should fast track the loan guarantees we passed for our auto industry and provide more as needed so that they can build the energy-efficient cars America needs to end our dependence on foreign oil.

We will also save one million jobs by creating a Jobs and Growth Fund that will provide money to states and local communities so that they can move forward with projects to rebuild and repair our roads, our bridges, and our schools. A lot of these projects and these jobs are at risk right now because of budget shortfalls, but this fund will make sure they continue.

The second part of my rescue plan is to provide immediate relief to families who are watching their paycheck shrink and their jobs and life savings disappear. I've already proposed a middle-class tax cut for 95% of workers and their families, but today I'm calling on Congress to pass a plan so that the IRS will mail out the first round of those tax cuts as soon as possible. We should also extend and expand unemployment benefits to those Americans who have lost their jobs and are having a harder time finding new ones in this weak economy. And we should stop making them pay taxes on those unemployment insurance benefits as well.

At a time when the ups and downs of the stock market have rarely been so unpredictable and dramatic, we also need to give families and retirees more flexibility and security when it comes to their retirement savings.

I welcome Senator McCain's proposal to waive the rules that currently force our seniors to withdraw from their 401(k)s even when the market is bad. I think that's a good idea, but I think we need to do even more. Since so many Americans will be struggling to pay the bills over the next year, I propose that we allow every family to withdraw up to 15% from their IRA or 401(k) - up to a maximum of $10,000 - without any fine or penalty throughout 2009. This will help families get through this crisis without being forced to make painful choices like selling their homes or not sending their kids to college.

The third part of my rescue plan is to provide relief for homeowners who are watching their home values decline while their property taxes go up. Earlier this year I pushed for legislation that would help homeowners stay in their homes by working to modify their mortgages. When Secretary Paulson proposed his original financial rescue plan it included nothing for homeowners. When Senator McCain was silent on the issue, I insisted that it include protections for homeowners. Now the Treasury must use the authority its been granted and move aggressively to help people avoid foreclosure and stay in their homes. We don't need a new law or a new $300 billion giveaway to banks like Senator McCain has proposed, we just need to act quickly and decisively.

I've already proposed a mortgage tax credit for struggling homeowners worth 10% of the interest you pay on your mortgage and we should move quickly to pass it. We should also change the unfair bankruptcy laws that allow judges to write down your mortgage if you own six or seven homes, but not if you have only one. And for all those cities and small towns that are facing a choice between cutting services like health care and education or raising property taxes, we will provide the funding to prevent those tax hikes from happening. We cannot allow homeowners and small towns to suffer because of the mess made by Wall Street and Washington.

For those Americans in danger of losing their homes, today I'm also proposing a three-month moratorium on foreclosures. If you are a bank or lender that is getting money from the rescue plan that passed Congress, and your customers are making a good-faith effort to make their mortgage payments and re-negotiate their mortgages, you will not be able to foreclose on their home for three months. We need to give people the breathing room they need to get back on their feet.

Finally, this crisis has taught us that we cannot have a sound economy with a dysfunctional financial system. We passed a financial rescue plan that has the promise to help stabilize the financial system, but only if we act quickly, effectively and aggressively. The Treasury Department must move quickly with their plan to put more money into struggling banks so they have enough to lend, and they should do it in a way that protects taxpayers instead of enriching CEOs. There was a report yesterday that some financial institutions participating in this rescue plan are still trying to avoid restraints on CEO pay. That's not just wrong, it's an outrage to every American whose tax dollars have been put at risk. No major investor would ever make an investment if they didn't think the corporation was being prudent and responsible, and we shouldn't expect taxpayers to think any differently. We should also be prepared to extend broader guarantees if it becomes necessary to stabilize our financial system.

I also believe that Treasury should not limit itself to purchasing mortgage-backed securities - it should help unfreeze markets for individual mortgages, student loans, car loans, and credit card loans.. And I think we need to do even more to make loans available in two very important areas of our economy: small businesses and communities.

On Friday, I proposed Small Business Rescue Plan that would create an emergency lending fund to lend money directly to small businesses that need cash for their payroll or to buy inventory. It's what we did after 9/11, and it allowed us to get low-cost loans out to tens of thousands of small businesses. We'll also make it easier for private lenders to make small business loans by expanding the Small Business Administration's loan guarantee program. By temporarily eliminating fees for borrowers and lenders, we can unlock the credit that small firms need to pay their workers and keep their doors open. And today, I'm also proposing that we maintain the ability of states and local communities that are struggling to maintain basic services without raising taxes to continue to get the credit they need.

Congress should pass this emergency rescue plan as soon as possible. If Washington can move quickly to pass a rescue plan for our financial system, there's no reason we can't move just as quickly to pass a rescue plan for our middle-class that will create jobs, provide relief, and help homeowners. And if Congress does not act in the coming months, it will be one of the first things I do as President of the United States. Because we can't wait any longer to start creating new jobs; to help struggling communities and homeowners, and to provide real and immediate relief to families who are worried not only about this month's bills, but their entire life savings. This plan will help ease those anxieties, and along with the other economic policies I've proposed, it will begin to create new jobs, grow family incomes, and put us back on the path to prosperity.

I won't pretend this will be easy or come without cost. We'll have to set priorities as never before, and stick to them. That means pursuing investments in areas such as energy, education and health care that bear directly on our economic future, while deferring other things we can afford to do without. It means scouring the federal budget, line-by-line, ending programs that we don't need and making the ones we do work more efficiently and cost less.

It also means promoting a new ethic of responsibility. Part of the reason this crisis occurred is that everyone was living beyond their means - from Wall Street to Washington to even some on Main Street. CEOs got greedy. Politicians spent money they didn't have. Lenders tricked people into buying home they couldn't afford and some folks knew they couldn't afford them and bought them anyway.

We've lived through an era of easy money, in which we were allowed and even encouraged to spend without limits; to borrow instead of save.

Now, I know that in an age of declining wages and skyrocketing costs, for many folks this was not a choice but a necessity. People have been forced to turn to credit cards and home equity loans to keep up, just like our government has borrowed from China and other creditors to help pay its bills.

But we now know how dangerous that can be. Once we get past the present emergency, which requires immediate new investments, we have to break that cycle of debt. Our long-term future requires that we do what's necessary to scale down our deficits, grow wages and encourage personal savings again.

It's a serious challenge. But we can do it if we act now, and if we act as one nation. We can bring a new era of responsibility and accountability to Wall Street and to Washington. We can put in place common-sense regulations to prevent a crisis like this from ever happening again. We can make investments in the technology and innovation that will restore prosperity and lead to new jobs and a new economy for the 21st century. We can restore a sense of fairness and balance that will give ever American a fair shot at the American dream. And above all, we can restore confidence - confidence in America, confidence in our economy, and confidence in ourselves.

This country and the dream it represents are being tested in a way that we haven't seen in nearly a century. And future generations will judge ours by how we respond to this test. Will they say that this was a time when America lost its way and its purpose? When we allowed our own petty differences and broken politics to plunge this country into a dark and painful recession?

Or will they say that this was another one of those moments when America overcame? When we battled back from adversity by recognizing that common stake that we have in each other's success?

This is one of those moments. I realize you're cynical and fed up with politics. I understand that you're disappointed and even angry with your leaders. You have every right to be. But despite all of this, I ask of you what's been asked of the American people in times of trial and turmoil throughout our history. I ask you to believe - to believe in yourselves, in each other, and in the future we can build together.

Together, we cannot fail. Not now. Not when we have a crisis to solve and an economy to save. Not when there are so many Americans without jobs and without homes. Not when there are families who can't afford to see a doctor, or send their child to college, or pay their bills at the end of the month. Not when there is a generation that is counting on us to give them the same opportunities and the same chances that we had for ourselves.

We can do this. Americans have done this before. Some of us had grandparents or parents who said maybe I can't go to college but my child can; maybe I can't have my own business but my child can. I may have to rent, but maybe my children will have a home they can call their own. I may not have a lot of money but maybe my child will run for Senate. I might live in a small village but maybe someday my son can be president of the United States of America.

Now it falls to us. Together, we cannot fail. Together, we can overcome the broken policies and divided politics of the last eight years. Together, we can renew an economy that rewards work and rebuilds the middle class. Together, we can create millions of new jobs, and deliver on the promise of health care you can afford and education that helps your kids compete. We can do this if we come together; if we have confidence in ourselves and each other; if we look beyond the darkness of the day to the bright light of hope that lies ahead. Together, we can change this country and change this world. Thank you, God bless you, and may God bless America.

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My respect for this man grows each and every day.

That's because you have a brain and can think for yourself.

That was encouraging

I am a donor to the Obama campaign and will surely be voting for the man on Nov 4. Question though -- what's with the flags in the background? Are those some kind of Ohio state flag or are they some kind of specially designed Obama/America flag. If the latter, I would advise bagging those the rest of the way.

well, hate him if you must, but you gotta admit - he's a class act all the way.

Senator Obama wasn't my first choice, but I've got to tell you, right now, he is our only choice. As the days go on, McSame/Palin are looking petty, mean and vindictive, in other words, like typical Republicans.

Obama may not have Hillary's ability to get the perfect zinger, but he really is eloquent.

He impresses me more and more each day. I'm hoping he will be as good as Edwards when it comes to going after corruption and to introduce his idea of competing with private health care (to replace it). Or that he will have the integrity of Kucinich.

I'm hoping, once he wins the election, he will not have to bend so far right -- that the country will see the error of so many of the Conservative policies.

and hope he picks a really good Treasury Secretary.

Not like Larry Summers. Harvard President. Who supported the bailout.

Um, Obama supported the bailout...

Obama never ceases to amaze the american people with not only his incredible mind and judgment but his ability to connect with people from all walks of live to unite us with each other. His charisma is almost unprecedented and I would venture to say it's a pretty unique accolade in a politician.

Having said that, the obvious is also true. Americans are waking up to recognize not only that we need this man to help steer our damaged ship in the right direction but that we SHOULD CONSIDER OURSELVES TO BE SO BLESSED that this man has agreed to do this for us - at a time when men are being separated from frauds every day in public office; at a time when his opponent slanders him and spits upon him and, like Jesus carrying the cross, Obama moves beyond it all.

This man is a shining light in a very dark america right now. He is not simply our "hope"; he is our only "light" out of the darkness.

last week, it tanked

today, no change in the bailout...went up 900 pts

this is one wierd economy

McCain quit campaigning today and flew to Washington. All it takes.

There were whispers from very early this morning about Obama's economic plan being unveiled today and the news spread like wildfire domestically and internationally.

It shows you how much faith and confidence not only the american people have in the wisdom and judgment and character of this great man but it also indicates the level of international respect he also has.

The sotck market seems to be unstable just like the weather.
It's all cause of that damn global warming I tell you...

The market rallied today in response to Great Britain's lead in managing the global financial crisis. It began in the Asian markets last night, extended to the European markets today and, thus, you see the 900+ point rally today in our own markets.

The market tanked because there was no (none, zero) leadership on the part of the U.S. to solve this problem. The problem is far from over. I believe this is a slight correction from last week's panicked sales. Analysts and so-called experts have been reporting all weekend that stock prices are at 25 year lows and now is the time to buy. People in the market are sheeple too, you know.

That'll be because of the massive amount of money both the UK and Euro governments have just injected into the banking system... Not only do we, in England, own all the houses but we just nationalised 3 major banks by the back door!

Agreed. Britain, and then Europe lead the way, while the USA floundered; completely ineffectual.

I still see it as about a $2 trillion dollar debt for the world taxpayers. My fingers are corssed. How long till Wall St. is arrogant and cocky again? By this evening? Now? Or they got advance news and started the party up again over the weekend?

We've been attacked by our own enemies within right now and Obama clearly has that steady, mature, wise hand to help us recover. This man is pure class - something we haven't seen in politics for a very long time - if ever of this same resonance and magnitude.

We are indeed "blessed" to have Obama willing to help this country at this time of dire need.

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video no worky.

The C&L link doesn't work for me either, so I can't be sure, but given the backdrop, location and subject matter, I think this is the same speech.

As usual lately, link not working. What is going on with C&L?

When it comes to economics, 1960’s Radical William Ayers Gets the Last Laugh!

http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3943

Yes, he is the obvious choice, but religious epithets produce a queasy stomach, like from eating too much cotton candy.

Ha

There is no such thing as "too much cotton candy." Or ice cream, for that matter.

Hot buttered popcorn, on the other hand....

Love the way Obama handles that - "We don't need that - we need to vote" Awesome. Funny how his crowds listen to him, whereas McCain's went nuts when he praised Obama.

We've seen and continue to see the hate-filled wingnuts of the McCain camp - just today the chair of the GOP of W. Virgina made a racist fool out of himself and actually slandered Obama. He needs to be made to pay for this, too and sued up the ying-yang.

It's true that people with sense, decency, intelligence, and honor are moving toward Obama.

Soon all ethically challenged Fail-in and her personal chimp will be left with will be the radical, uneducated right wing extremists we see on television who are so willing to make national targets on themselves that I can't believe they're doing it. They might just as well put a huge "X" on their backs because now everyone knows that these people are dangers to this country.

Civil Liberties groups all across this country are watching closely and taking names. These indivuals who are hate-baiting and slandering Obama's good name will be involved in a lawsuit for slander beginning with Sheriff Mike Scott of Florida, Bill Platt of Lehigh Valley, Pa., Keating of Michigan, and now this fringe nut chair of the GOP of W. Va.

They're in for a rather large surprise when they're slapped with personal lawsuits - coming down the pike soon from out national liberties groups.

Guaranteeing bad loans and giving money to loan is giving banks a no lose situation.

Its like the government giving you a million to gamble and giving it back if you lose.

Wall Street is taking care of and now lets see if they do anything for the people.

There's a petition circulating rapidly around the internet for the bringing of slander charges against Andy Martin. The hate rhetoric has been traced back to this man and it's time we demand that he suffer the consequences of intentionally spinning lies and slander.

He's one of the most dispicable, classless human beings on this planet.

Sign the petititon today to bring slander charges against Andy Martin!

http://www.236.com/news/2008/10/13/forget_ste...

that along with a huge financial payment due to the creation of slanderous lies against Obama. I hope he's someday a pauper - goodness knows he's already AN AMERICAN PARIAH.

THIS MAN IS A SICK, TWISTED INDIVIDUAL WHO NEEDS TO BE SMACKED WITH A HUGE LAWSUIT FOR HIS ACTIONS.

I'll apologize in advance for injecting skepticism that might appear to defend such a despicable human being ― I assure you, I'm not defending him ― but, I'm not sure how a slander suit is winnable.

Care to elaborate?

Obama demonstrates leadership. McCain, not so much.

529

I had put off opening a 529 for my new grandson but plan to when Obama is elected. I look forward to telling the bank why I chose that particular time.

529

Smart move. I started one for my grandson with $200 about 6 months ago and now it's down to $130. I think a good time to re-invest in it will be at the time it's announced that Barack has won the election.

Ah, so I have been banned. You hypocrites. You are no better than the McCain campaign.

WTF

are you talking about?

We're seeing your message, so it doesn't appear you've been banned.

You think you have it bad, I have been murdered and my body will never be found.

You think you have it bad, now I gotta clean the whisky off the keyboard....LMFAO

Reminds me of a lawyer's ad around here:

"Have you been injured or killed in an accident that was not your fault?"

And one I saw on a bus when I was a kid:

"Can't Read? Call..."

Glad you have a computer wherever you are. :-) Keep in touch.

Yeah? What did the McCain Campaign ban you for...?

From the linked article:

[T]he Republican Party has invited not just defeat but discredit this year, and [ ] both its nominees for the highest offices in the land should be decisively repudiated, along with any senators, congressmen, and governors who endorse them.

Hear, hear!

Ya, up till this year the Republican Party was just swell...

'til I see it. I will stay worried right up until the polls close and the results are tallied.

ME TOO. Please, no one think, act or coast along, like it's already been won. It has not.

John McCain is not only a swine for what he is condoning in his presence but he's become a total impotent coward as well by pretending it's not happening.

Well, maybe he doesn't know it's happening - because he's become so out of touch with the world.

"Obama steps up to the plate on the economy." Unfortunately the senator from Illinois seemed more concerned about stepping up to help out Wall Street when he not only backed the bill which bailed out the financial institutions but also lobbied quite vigorously to make sure his fellow Democrats followed his lead. It remains to be seen if Obama will help the working class and the poor or if he will answer the call when the corporate interests tell Obama that it is time for him to return the favor. It is instructive to recall that Obama said that "We must move swiftly and we have to move wisely" when Congress was debating how to handle the meltdown on Wall Street. One wonders why he did not act so quickly in order to provide relief for those families who have been thrown out on the street because their homes have been foreclosed.

As McCain's campaign drifts in and out of reality, it is great to see at least on of our candidates still has vision, and the decency not to denegrate his opponent.

P.S. Who the heck is Andy Martin? Nevermind, I'll google it.

On NBC Nightly News just now. McCain says he will take questions from his traveling mob then bolts without taking questions from the mob.

That's some straightalk.

Also gas prices down to twice what they were when Clinton left office, time to celebrate!

I've said all along that gas prices would drop right before the election. Remember the 2001 behind closed door meetings in Cheney's office with the energy/oil execs? The timing is interesting isn't it?

I have to say I've been a little suspicious of this supply and demand meme, with gas prices. The prices seem to react in nanoseconds sometimes. Does demand change in nanoseconds?

I used to listen to Obama all the time on Cpan. I couldn't but wonder, if only he was president.

I hope this is not let to pass. GOLDMAN SACHS should be SHUT DOWN and it's ceo's JAILED.
Neel Kashkari. A GOLDMAN SACHS crony in charge of biggest financial transaction ever.

Corruption in the Bailout Plan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTZY5TFt0aw&eu...
A secretly recorded tape caught Neel Kashkari saying to Wall Street,...."shhhh!...your all going to get your golden parachutes, don't worry at all"

Goldman Sachs Crony in charge of $700BN SURPRISED?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35MErgrZODU
Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson is promoting Neel Kashkari, the Treasurys assistant secretary for international affairs, to be the point man overseeing the $700 billion financial bailout as the interim head of Paulsons Office of Financial Stability.

Don't forget to include Hank Paulson in the litigation which will arise from the Goldman Sachs disaster.

Hank Paulson's head is going to roll - and soon for his involvement with Goldman Sachs through 2006.

"Goldman Sachs should be shut down and and its ceo's JAILED." Well said. Unfortunately if Obama is elected president that prospect seems highly unlikely because Goldman Sachs was Obama's number one donor and its former CEO was a fellow named Henry Paulson. Because of that reason, it would be quite surprising to hear Obama demand that Goldman Sachs and Paulson be held accountable for what they have done to the poor and the working class in this country.

A thousand alarm bells went off in my brain this morning when I heard that following a weekend of promising the american people "his new plan" that John McCain had suddenly had a change of heart and as leaked by his campaign (intentionally) was the fact that he would not be releasing a new economic plan "all week". Two simple words like "all week" sent up everyone's radar as we got the gut reaction that something smelled foul with that supposed "leak".

Fortunately, Obama had his incredible "TEN POINT PLAN" up and ready and the stock market responded accordingly with a "confidence factor" which we've seen for even the promise of an "Obama Plan".

While perusing another website, I see that they have stricken through the headline about McCain not releasing a plan this week and we find that, lo and behold, McCain's going to release his "own plan" soon.

No doubt at all that they were hoping to prempt Obama with a plan of their own and they tried to play him by stating publicly that they would delay their plan. Obama is wiser, more intelligent than all of the McCain camp desperados put together, and ran his plan today. It's a great plan and now we'll see how much of the Obama plan McCain actually plagiarizes.

I'm ROTFLMAO right now. Once again, another McCain "stunt" blows up in his face. Maybe the circus would be his next profession as a "professional clown" - the ones who get shot out of the canons?

Don't worry. He's got Obama just where he wants him. :-)

It's clear now:

Obama's economic plan (which is the #1 plan) will take him through the debate and onto the finish line.

Sadly, McCain's #2 plan will only be an "as ran". He blew it this time - again.

Looks like McCain's cancelled economic plan is back on for release tomorrow. Nice stunt, kiddies but you need to play in your own sandbox now.

You're coming in #2 Johnny - nice try to seduce Obama into a stall on his plan though. McCain and his cadre of criminals are proving that they're not up to the job here.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.c...

that flage in the screen shot - the big O flag... it's new to me...
i love it! if it's what i think it is... what's the story?

Looks like an Obama American flag.

I think its the Ohio state flag

It is indeed. :)

Never saw it before.

Looks like the Cuban flag also. I've never seen it either. Once he's president, I might prefer it to the Stars and Stripes. Get rid of that tired old thing; bad memories for everyone. Blood, torture, death, financial ruin exported round the world.

are rich guys who don't want to end up down here with us unwashed.

LOL. It is true if we let this thing go into the total crapper the Rich and Famous would be bumming cigarettes on the local street corner with the rest of us instead of club hopping in their limos.

How a guy can be so straight, unenthusiastic, and serious for an entire career boggles me.

I can't imagine why. Thanks to local independent "street pharmacists", as well as the traditional type, it is quite easily sustainable. Almost indefinitely... (except for the smell)

I'm gonna make Gubberment live on a budget just like you do!

CHEERS!!!!

Suckers

If you are that powerful, LA, would you mind making sure the votes are counted correctly?

Dennis Hopper, star of the recent "cult hit" An American Carol; the guy who called Newt Gingrich a "great man," and voted four times for a Bush. Now that you've unleashed your horror upon the rest of the world, it's good to know even some a-holes can see the light. Unfortunately, I'm sure it's only because your investments are threatened, but hey, you have your priorities.

i get the ad on the right, but no obama video...
both formats - no video... waaa!

http://www.50states.com/flag/ohflag.htm

i was going to get all ready for the "outrage" if he'd gone and made up his own flag! da noive!

McCain's pal George Bush and the Republicans spend 8 years bashing Europe then copy their economic bailout plan which sends our market to record high of almost 1000 points in one day.

Republican economic plan: Demonize the Europeans, then look to them to help save the US economy.

Something doesn't add up. At all. Too bad there wasn't an honest economist or politician out there that would actually tell the truth of what is going on. My bank (Royal Bank of Canada) has made BILLIONS profit yearly for as long as I can remember. Now my government follows governments worldwide giving them BILLIONS in bail out money? WTF is going on here anyway?

Guess.

Hmmmmmmm?
I wonder what it could be?
C'mon now CC. Take a stab at it.

I'm no economist mudshark, and I don't buy the sub prime mortgage excuse. I don't buy the "liquidity" spiel. I'm not sure what the hell is really going on here. It makes no sense to anyone involved. How does sinking the global economy benefit anyone? Without a healthy economy even the richest of the rich is toast in a short time.

I really don't have an accurate answer to this either.
But I suspect, the whole planet jumped in to this mortgage investment pyramid scam. They saw the profits , so they went for it. Simple greed CC. Much like the oil boom over the summer. But people saw that was artificial after a while. I always thought something was wrong with the real estate market after 2004. I sold my house in Dec 03. And I'm glad I did. They didn't get me.

I have 6 years left on my mortgage if I survive (crossing fingers). What I don't understand is that unless there is massive mortgage defaults, NOBODY is losing any money. And where I live, I'm not seeing any bank notices in windows saying the owner defaulted. So, that can't be it.

With all these bad mortages(debts) It puts a strain on credit. Have you tried borrowing any money lately?
Not that you'd need to mind you.
But this directly affects small business's.
They can't get access to funds, so they may have to close their doors. And it's all down hill from there.

Well Xoites I could understand if it was a real liquidity problem. Or if it was a major debt problem. Or even a failing company. But a major Canadian bank that has made billions profit annually does not have a debt problem. If it does, an entire management should be fired, charged with fraud, and tried in a court of law. And to have it happening globally, at the same time exactly smells like horseshit. Worse yet, EVERY major political party globally is spouting the same line of BS.

I was thinking more along the lines of a major unarmed robbery.

"You are correct sir! Tell him what he's won,Ms Pfartenhuffer!"

That's the only explanation I can come up with as well. The worst part is, who politically can you turn to? Every major political party is playing the exact same song on every station. Kinda like that "war on terror". Every leader spouts that line.

Hey CC...vote NDP tomorrow and see what happens. Can't hurt.

Believe it or not, I was actually thinking of doing just that. At least Jack Layton actually sounds like a real leader compared to the other two.

The link is messed up.

To understand the situation, we must understand modern banking, because it is all about debt. Watch this short video: "Money As Debt"

Well played.

And the contrast between their characters grows even MORE distinct...