Joan Walsh upsets poor BillO, so Ingraham counters: Dr. Tiller is just like Jeff Gannon!
By David Neiwert Friday Jun 12, 2009 7:45am
Gee, surprise surprise. Bill O'Reilly took extreme umbrage at Salon's Joan Walsh speaking the truth about his role in inspiring acts of domestic terrorism.
WALSH: Exactly. I was watching MSNBC all day today, Chris. And there were a couple of experts on these right wing groups saying, this guy was known to authorities. He went to jail in the ‘80s for an assault on I think the Federal Reserve Bank. This is not a lone wolf who has never come into contact or expressed publicly expressed his hateful views. He published a book.
I think there is a certain amount of surveillance that would have been wise. How somebody like that gets a gun when he used a gun in his prior crime—all these things, I think, should be looked at. I support the Second Amendment, but I think guns are too easy to get. All these things will come into play.
And I will say, you know, I do hope that some conservatives stand up. I don‘t blame them. I don‘t blame mainstream Republicans, by any means, for this. I want to be clear. But they could help in ratcheting down some of the rhetoric. When Bill O‘Reilly goes on TV every night and calls Dr. Tiller a baby killer and a Nazi and a Mengele, and shows where he works, why do we put up with that? Why is that entertainment in our culture? It's demonizing a private citizen for doing a lawful job. Why are people doing that? Why is that acceptable? I would like to see a debate about that.
O'Reilly dismissed her point by saying: "Private citizen? Sounds like he sells insurance." Because, in O'Reilly's world, a person's occupation makes all the difference in whether or not he should violate basic precepts of journalistic ethics by holding him up for public demonization and suggesting that someone oughta take him out.
But then he and Laura Ingraham decided to embark on attacking Joan Walsh instead -- by bringing up Salon's coverage of the Jeff Gannon fiasco:
Ingraham: Look, Joan Walsh -- I did a little research for you, OK, tonight. Joan Walsh -- this was in 2005, in a Q&A with the Columbia Journalism Review, she justified what Salon had done to that reporter, Jeff Gannon, that White House reporter who Salon published accounts of as outing! Outing his sexuality, I guess, because of who he was or what he was doing, what he wasn't saying to the White House. And she said, look, it was justified because it was, the White House wasn't very forthcoming with information it was giving reporters, and it apparently didn't even know who this Jeff Gannon was, and he was a fraud, blah blah blah.
So let's be clear: The Left uses, quote, hateful rhetoric when the Left thinks it's justified. So the Left on MSNBC will call President Bush a war criminal, a liar, the most hateful comments about people like Karl Rove, et cetera, et cetera. But when these comments are directed by you -- about you, or people like Rush Limbaugh, as this Joan Walsh character did last night, that is -- well, they deserved it.
Um, Joan Walsh didn't accuse Jeff Gannon of being a mass murderer or a baby killer. She didn't suggest someone should do away with him. She and her reporters just pointed out that Jeff Gannon was a fraud of a reporter to whom the Bush White House gave unbelievable access -- which wasn't a controversial matter at all, but rather a simple fact. It certainly didn't constitute hateful speech.
The same, it must be added, can be said about the rest of Ingraham's examples. She's going to have to work hard to come up with an example of any anchor at MSNBC, let alone any guest, actually spewing hateful rhetoric. Calling Bush a war criminal isn't hateful speech; there in fact is a complete legal case to be made that Bush is indeed a war criminal. And whatever might be said about Rove or Limbaugh pales in comparison to their own daily foul emissions.
But when you're backed into a corner and exposed for the hatemongers you are, you grasp for whatever straws you can. Sorry, Laura. That was an Epic Fail.
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These assholes have no sense of decency at all.
people like to look at things but they don't look into them now.
This is our future.
This COULD be our future.
where there is no point and Twitter is going to let you know just how true that is.
..anyone would have to say anything other than what you just said!
No sense of decency, no sense of shame, an over-inflated ego, perhaps could be added but no matter what is said, they have no sense of decency!
And W is a war criminal or I'm not human! Of course, in our great country, he's an innocent war criminal until a jury of his peers (wow, what I could do with that one but won't because I do have a sense of decency) finds him to be a guilty war criminal.
There, no hate, no violence, just a fair and balanced analysis; something you'll never see on FAUX.
He knows he had a hand in the death of Dr. Tiller, so he's desperately pulling anything... ANYTHING, out of his ass in an effort to confuse the issue.
Jeff Gannon/Johnny Grosch was a former child sex slave and a prostitute that spent most of his life performing sex acts for politicians, or anyone else who could pay for it. He was most noted for spending many hours of 'quality time', behind closed doors, with both the president, and vice president. The only reason why he became a 'writer' was because he was too old to turn tricks anymore.
Dr. Tiller worked for the Women's Health Care Services.
He was a doctor, who happened to also perform abortions.
There's a huge difference.
If Bill O'Reilly can't tell the difference, then I can easily see why he sexually harassed his co-worker, and attacked victims of sex crimes.
It also might be the reason why he has people stalked.
He seems to be confused about what violence and sex are.
Oh. And he's also a racist, and a liar. But that's going off on a slight tangent.
Tiller was a gay prostitute who got dubious and illegal access to Bush Administration press conferences?
WTF are these people smokin?
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And booze, babes, gambling and golf
Real spiritual stuff
"she justified what Salon had done to that reporter, Jeff Gannon, that White House reporter who Salon published accounts of as outing! Outing his sexuality"
Gannon had his own website, I think I saw the pics on here or Huffpo,
I am no homophobe but it was NASTY!
One man's nasty is another man's walk in the park.
And some men do the nasty in the park.
show? Can someone explain the logic?
Uh . . .
............ the neoNAZIcons are committing hari keri, public disembowelment and there is nothing, nothing, nothing, rational abt. it. Those boy-loving congresscritters are still anal retentive, so public disembowelment is the only way ..........nothing, nothing, nothing relavent or rational at all!
Why would you want to hurt your beautiful brain, by trying to put anything neoNAZIcon in a rational frame???????
It is beyond me how he gets his guests other than rightwingers. Must be big money in being a guest.
And Ms Ingraham never thinks to ask the real question. How did a gay prositute gain access to the White House and confidential papers?
..She won't tell!
Bush was a public official, accountable to the citizens of this country. He also had/has Secret Service Protection.
Tiller was a private citizen with no protection.
I cannot stand it when BillO or his guests defend the likes of Limpballs, but yet they will go out of their way to condemn what they think are left wing haters.
BillO is a jackass. And, I cannot stand Ingraham, either.
so when will bush bee ACCOUNTABLE for HIS actions. the shit he has dont to America. shit, a kid goes to jail for a joint, bush lied,lied,lied. thousands died under his orders. trashed the constution. what accountable will he get. what he has is a nice retirement, life long health care, guards. something most people in America do not have. this is for a job well done. only in America can a shithead like this walk.
was he outed?
seems to me that he was a male prostitute who advertised his BJ-skilz online.... (with pics and all)
he wasn't "outed", laura 'i need attention' ingrate, he was already 'out'. what happened, since laura is too dishonest to describe this minor story accurately, was that his faux-journalist cover was blown--the whole gannon/guckert thing.
The difference with Fox and Hearst, etc., is that after promoting several wars and succeeding with two, it looks like Fox is now promoting civil war.
well said.
That's a headline...Fox News Promotes Civil War
Because the plutocrats want to turn this county into a failed third world nation with 99% of the population slaves and 1% a ruling wealthy elite.
with the for profit prison industry.
O'Reilly's claim that Brunn has him as evil on his website? I tried searching and seems like another one of Bill's lies.
We didn't out his sexuality. We outed his profession, which was ILLEGAL. There are quite a few conservative homosexuals out there who are not outed by the "liberal" press until they do something ILLEGAL.
Tiller, despite what Bill O and Ingraham would like to believe, was engaged in a LEGAL profession.
Salon NEVER, to the best of my knowledge, published Gannon's personal contact information. They posted photos that he used to advertise his ILLEGAL SERVICES.
And seriously, if you can't distinguish the very important difference in the whole "legal/illegal" thing, or the difference between pointing out a person's profession calling into question the administration's credibility and showing photos of someone while calling them HITLER and fantasizing about hurting them (oh, not really, wink nudge) then you must be a Fox viewer.
as no sane man would ever touch ingraham with a 10 foot pole, i am sure she has visited many a male prostitute
so she wishes it was legal
Did you know Keith Olbermann dated her for awhile? Wonder what that was like, and wonder what broke them up?
Keith's still one of my heroes, though!
The only explanation for banging that mummified, squeaky voiced mutt(BTW, I think Laura's plastic surgeon had Parkinson's).
protecting BillO's relationship with Jeff Gannon? Will that be the next headline in National Enquirer?
Laura will do anything for more tv face time, won't she...even figuratively suck Billo's cock.
chain? Laura, BillO and Gannon?
can't think of any other reason she would chose to humiliate herself in front of people on Television.
Her shrill shrieking and stupid statements drive me crazy. What an awful, awful woman! And let me understand this....people actually tune in to her radio show and listen to that awful voice for hours and hours? It's beyond belief.
Gross.
Tiller performed a lawful procedure at the choice of the woman. George Bush launched an illegal war killing 4500 Americans and hundreds of thousands of civilians. Not exactly the same or a fair comparison. by a 2 to 1 margin Americans disapproved of George Bush. George Bush was loathed the world over by our allies and the free world.
Ingrahm, OReilly, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Malkin, Coulter and the leaders of the GOP...spew lies hate and venom at others then play the victims when people stand up to them.
Gannon was outed because he was in bed with the party of homophobia. It's like a Jew that would conspire with the Nazis.
controlling the means of production, yet they want to socialize every uterus and control the means of reproduction. They obviously value corporations more than women.
"the Left on MSNBC will call President Bush a war criminal, a liar"
The truth hurts, huh?
.."So the Left on MSNBC will call President Bush a war criminal, a liar, the most hateful comments about people like Karl Rove, et cetera, et cetera.", you have to wonder where laura ingraham was living for the past eight or so years.
nesting in Limbaugh's pubic hairs?
*LOL* and EWWW at the same time.
Because since the Liberals outed Jeff Gannon as being a gay prostitute, they were as good as calling him a baby-killer.
Here's how the logic goes:
Jeff Gannon would entice Republicans into depositing their precious holy manseed in an inappropriate location.
Said manseed could have been deposited in a Republican seed depository (aka a "wife" or "newt's secretary").
Therefore, he is a mass murderer of babbys.
but I'm fairly certain that nothing that comes out of KKKarl could/should be described as "precious holy manseed".
I'm gonna go with "worthless putrid effluent"
I wasn't aware that Dr. Tiller was a homosexual prostitute who possibly had Karl Rove as a client.
How did she out Gannon when he had a public gay escort website?
Get a brain Moran...
that means 'fake name.' I am telling you that, because since you don't know the story, but will boldly post here as if you DID know, I am led to believe you would have trouble with large words.
His real job, male escort, was run under his real name 'Guckert.' If anyone knew the link, it would have been the WH, the Secret Service. The public did not know that Bush was taking softballs in press conference from a man-whore.
"She and her reporters just pointed out that Jeff Gannon was a fraud of a reporter to whom the Bush White House gave unbelievable access..."
In that sense, she outed him, moran.
Couple key words that went right over the wicked witch of the east's head...."deserved". you and bor DESERVE responsibility!! You are doing far more than referring to a war criminal as a war criminal. "human rights"???? Since when is a fetus a "human"??? Jesus, help these f*cking idiots out a little.
It was almost humorous, if it didn't involve someone's untimely death.
Did the witch try to pin the jerk off's responsibility for shooting up the recruiting office on the liberals?? Ah....big stretch there, bitch.
Dr. Tiller's death is on bor's hands. The museum coward is simply an angry, disgruntled and powerless piece of shit. But I'm not so sure who fed the dumb shit's head that shot up the recruiting office.
NOTHING is more crystal clear than the example of Dr. Tiller's death being directly linked to bor and his hateful history of exposing and trashing the man's life. He should burn in hell for it someday....I hope sooner than later.
Was Jeff Gannon murdered by a domestic terrorist?
I really do enjoy some of your work. I especially love these little greatest hits.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043m...
Thanks for posting that, I'd heard about it but never read the transcript.
It was interesting reading what a sexual pervert O'Reilly really was and is. He's a big-mouthed bully, and it's too bad he wasn't convicted and put away instead of being allowed to settle it out of court.
Billo sure spends a lot of time defending himself.
Sure, Billo, that's all you talk about and care about.
If you cared so much about human rights, why not condemn the torture or the acts caught in those picures? NO, you have to condemn the people who want to expose and prosecute the illegal acts.
And in the case of Dr. Tiller, he was legally performing his job. Where's the outrage over the violation of his human rights?
These people know no shame, and accept no responsibility for their own actions.
O'Reilly and Ingraham are pitiful excuses for human beings, but we already knew that.
This outrage from Laura Ingraham? For real? Let me repeat something from the book "Big Lies" by Joe Conason:
Red herrings, straw men, tu quoque, the works.
Every man, woman, and child in America should take a formal logic class. THAT would be the end of Bill O'Reilly.
that Billo will never admit responsibility about anything, but it sure seems that we is careful to not append "Baby Killer" to Tiller's name.
After Laura and Billo quit humping each other's leg, I think Billo should send out one of his lackeys to stalk Joan Walsh, and ask her to apologize for something or other. Yeah . . . thats what should happen.
Tiller and Gannon? How freaking nuts and completely out of touch with reality do you have to be to make a connection between these two things?
Good god are the people f**king stupid, and evil.
Who's getting down right bored to death of these fuckers?
I know I'm not the only one. I had to ask the question. sorry.
That being said, some of the GOPers have to be getting sick of it too.
I wonder, how is the ratings for O'Lielly nowadays?
He has to have lost some viewers.
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