We can see why Bernie Goldberg's book was an inspiration to the Knoxville church gunman
By David Neiwert Friday Feb 13, 2009 6:30am
The other day on Fox, Bernard Goldberg came to the defense of his buddy Bill O'Reilly -- who's nice enough to keep having him on at Fox without asking him any mean questions about his dumb book's multiple dumb mistakes -- over BillO's indefensible remarks about Helen Thomas. In so doing, he offered up this contribution to the national discourse:
But it's interesting to me that these left-wingers who didn't say a word when their fellow left-wingers called George Bush a moron, when they called Dick Cheney a fascist, when they called Sarah Palin a racist, and when they threw Oreo cookies at Michael Steele because he had the nerve to be a conservative black man -- they didn't say a word about all of that.*
So here's my conservative analysis, and feel free to bleep this: Screw them. Screw them. They are unimportant people, they are unimportant people who shouldn't be taken seriously.
When you made a good-natured joke, I very seriously said that Helen Thomas' 15 minutes were up in the Lincoln administration. And you know what? If they want to take shots at me, and if they want to take shots at you, they need to know one thing: They're throwing spitballs at battleships.
The Go-Cheney-Yourself approach to discourse is no doubt what wins Bernie Goldberg so many fans on the right who snap up his books and hang on his every misbegotten word.
Including, it's quite clear, that fellow who last July walked into that Unitarian church in Knoxville and started shooting: Jim David Adkisson.
The manifesto he composed before his murderous rampage here [pdf file], and it's worth reading in its entirety for a number of reasons. But I especially took note of Part III:
This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg's book. I'd like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I know those people were inaccessible to me. I couldn't get to the generals & high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chickenshit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling. I volunteered. I hope others do the same. It's the only way we can rid America of this cancerous pestilence.
That seems to sum up Adkisson's thinking: He wanted to be the spark in a wave of similar fed-up-niks taking their anger out on liberals.
It's also worth looking at the kind of reasoning that led him there:
In a parallel train of thought; It saddens me to think back on all the bad things that Liberalism has done to this country. The worst problem America faces today is Liberalism. They have dumbed down education, they have defined deviancy down. Liberals have attack'd every major institution that made America great. From the Boy Scouts to the military; from education to Religion. The Major News outlets have become the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. Liberals are evil, they embrace the tenets of Karl Marx, they're Marxist, socialist, communists.
This paragraph seems like an almost crystalline amalgam of the kind of eliminatist rhetoric that is spewed every day over the nation's media by the likes of O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, Ann Coulter, and their swarms of ignoble imitators -- including Bernie Goldberg.
And indeed, as previously noted, books and materials from these right-wing hate talkers were exactly what investigators found when they went through Adkisson's belongings. Obviously, he was an avid consumer of their broadcast offerings as well.
And this is where it led:
If decent patriotic Americans could vote 3 times in every election we couldn't stem this tide of liberalism that's destroying America. Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them. Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great Nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil is Kill them in the streets. Kill them where they gather.
I'd like to encourage other like minded people to do what I've done. If life aint worth living anymore don't just Kill yourself, do something for your country before you go. Go Kill Liberals.
But merely pointing out the obvious, common-sense connection between O'Reilly's reckless rhetoric and Jim David Adkisson's murderous political-terror spree is enough to bring down O'Reilly's wrath. For instance, a Newsday writer pointed it out, and O'Reilly sent out the attack squads:
Note how O'Reilly frames the story: Nowhere does he mention that Adkisson not only read O'Reilly's book and watched O'Reilly's shows, but he was openly acting on the scapegoating of liberals contained therein.
Look, if it turned out that Caylee Anthony's killer were an O'Reilly fan too, it would indeed be unfair to connect anything O'Reilly might've written to that murder.
But in Adkisson's case, he left us this manifesto, which lays bare his motivations and his thinking. And as we can see from the organized nature of the piece, he was no more "insane" than Ted Kaczynski.
No one is blaming O'Reilly or Goldberg directly for the killings that resulted. But there is at least some level of culpability here that they need to face responsibly.
That means dealing with the matter forthrightly: Reporting the whole facts of the matter (particularly that Adkisson was clearly inspired by their own incessant scapegoating of liberals, often with violent language along the lines of "Screw them") and making clear that in no way did they ever intend these words to be taken as a call to violent action.
Not that they ever will, of course. These guys are big battleships, dontcha know. Why be bothered with such little spitballs as basic decency and integrity?
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*For what it's worth, this is a farrago of strawmen: No major Democratic or liberal figures called either Bush or Cheney morons or fascists, nor Palin a racist; these characterizations could be found among some rank and file liberals (and their views were certainly not groundless), but no major spokesman of the 'Left', particularly not of a stature comparable to O'Reilly's on the Right, ever said such a thing. The story about Steele being pelted with Oreos, meanwhile, has since been pretty thoroughly debunked.
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Nice job, Bernie.
How does it feel to be the inspiration for a cold-blooded killer, you worthless prick?
... he loves it. I bet at home with the lights out he touches himself watching a video of a compilation of news reports about that guy.
It will increase book sales.
Right wingers are delusional.
from the shooter's ramblings, they're also suicidal.
how are people like bernie, malkin, coulter, limpballs
and billo not held as criminal for all their hate and
hate inciting comments when their words are as criminal
as someone yelling "FIRE" in a crowd or theatre?
Mr. Goldberg, you have just made it possible for your forthcoming books filled with hate-speech to be emblazoned with the following banner on the cover: "Recommended by Knoxville mass-murderer Jim David Adkisson" -- how's that for some recommended reading, folks? Let's gin up class warfare, Goldberg-style!
and sneak them onto the covers of his books at your local chain bookstore!
that all the people who like to talk like bullies (bush, cheney, this douche) are mostly the biggest pussies to ever crawl across the earth?
Because it's easier, more profitable and does not require that they prove anything they say.
Because it's easier, more profitable and does not require that they prove anything they say.
Somebody ought to sandbag Goldberg at home, in his driveway, read him the quote where he's mentioned by name and stick a goddamn microphone in his face (preferably one that's been dipped in dog poo).
Battleships we never heard of except in passing, and need self-contained systems to disseminate their books. (No goldy, that doesn't mean jacking.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv8k_XXJ7_M
Do people like Goldberg convince people that liberals are evil or do people already believe that and their beliefs are reinforced by Goldberg and the like?
I mean, if I listened to right wing talk all the time, I would still not agree with them. My own feelings run too deep and are a part of who I am.
Sure, I wish all of them would STFU, but at the same time, I never wish them harm.
but I do. I hope their dicks get rot and fall off and this includes Coulter.
Leprosy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U74s8nFE7No
and they find the Goldbergs of the world to reinforce their beliefs. But the saturation of right-wing talk radio and TV convinces me otherwise. What's happening now is that the lazy minded are being convinced that anyone not like them is evil. Sad and very scary.
This is in many ways reminiscent of what happened in Germany during the 30's.
what happened in Rwanda.
What Goldberg does, and incidentally what Palin/McCain did during the election that so infuriated me, is validate how these people think and feel. Instead of masturbating at home to extreme right-wing literature, Goldberg/McCain/Palin and the rest give them the impetus they need to pluck up their courage by making them feel mainstream. By making them feel that their ideas and feelings are normal, ok and supported by people in power.
based on the people that I know that listen to this crap, is
that they are generally sad, angry and pathetic people looking to
channel their rage. The presentation of this on a media outlet would
appear to make liberals/progressives/Dems an acceptable target.
I remember reading about this man at the time and he was a sad case. Probably unwilling to take responsibility for his own actions/failures
and looking for someone to blame. If you have all of these "experts" hating on the Dems and giving the appearance that this is acceptable and even encouraged behaviour, I'm sure that it's much of a stretch for an unbalanced individual like Adkisson to take it to the next step.
I clearly remember the first time I heard Rush, I was sitting in an office in Des Moines, Iowa in the very early 90s training with a woman whose job I was going to assume when she retired. I'm sure if you asked her she would have considered herself a good Christian, at least she showed up at her Episcopalian church every Sunday and volunteered regularly there. As we sat there and I listened to Rush, I remember asking her if she liked what this guy was saying because I didn't agree with a word he had said. She laughed and told me that I was young and that I would probably become more conservative when I was older. I thought to myself, if I ever become like this bitter, angry, sad old lady I hope someone punches me and pops me out of my delusion. I always felt that she was a sad case, lots of anger and was just looking for something to hate, nothing more.
Frankly, I find talk radio pretty fucking boring, regardless of my philosophy. I could not possibly sit around and listen to someone bashing Bush/Cheney/Repubs all day, heck, I can't even do it for about 10 minutes.
I hope, even though it may not happen or get very far, that at least one of these families sues Goldberg and sends this pathetic fuck of a writer a clear message. If you write hate/violence inciting material you will be responsible for the actions of your writings.
Reslugs have always been the proud party of corruption, criminals bigots, racists, haters, liars, traitors, ignorance, no compassion, uneducated wing-nuts and now MURDER.
Don't forget that the Turner Diaries inspired Timothy McVeigh.
Well said, my ocean loving friend!
Freedom of speech is one thing, but lying to intentionally create rage and anger and yes, sometimes even murder. Is a whole different matter.
Let's kick these yahoos right in the "Fairness Doctrines".
Rascalcat
Loveland CO
The victims would seem to have a good civil case for suing Goldberg, OReally, Limbaugh, etc. Time for them to pay for their Hate Lies.
We some times here people who have murdered someone say that god told them to do what they did. Are these people crazy? Or do they really believe after listening to their minister or reading the bible that they were correct in doing what they did?
I personally think that anyone who murders someone and references either the bible or right wing talkers, had to be a little bit mentally tilted the wrong way from the beginning. They may appear sane in some ways but they are mentally susceptible in others.
That is no excuse. They belong in front of a firing squad regardless. No insanity plea, please.
I didn't mean to suggest an insanity plea. I just meant that some people are more susceptible to suggestions than others. Like I said they may appear sane in many other ways and in those ways they are, but some part of them can be influenced toward violence more than the average person.
Ok. We're on the same page.
... as brainwashing.
It is a religion. You repeat the same words over and over and over - until your mind becomes numb. Then you will be convinced. Look at, or better yet, listen to these religious fanatics. No religion is unaffected by this - in some cases even worse, because parents, whom lttle children trust, will get them started. Most religions have a mantra, some strong enough to drive their believers into committing suicide. Reciting the rosary could even be classified as a mantra, albeit a little lengthy.
This I believe is what binds republicans, more so than democrats to be religious. They need a 'god', and they find one on talk radio. Each talking head has his own following, like all the different denominations.
Bernie Goldberg is another example of a fascist that cannot see the damage the pirates in the White House have done the past eight years, and much less admitt to any of it.
Goldberg is a tool. I remember him attacking Tom Osborne back in 1995 over the Lawrence Phillips situation and he had all his facts screwed up. Then he went to the weekly press conference and pulled a sneak attack on Osborne. No wonder he and OReilly are friends. Same lame tactics.
I have not read the book we are talking about here. Does Goldberg suggest violence toward the people he talks about? I mean, how vile is he in his writing? I'm not familiar with him other than what I see about him here and other sites. From the transcript above he appears to be a total horse's ass.
Patricia, last night on Olbermann, Goldgerg was "The Worst Personnnnnn in the Worrrrrrld." Olbermann addressed this issue and I think he said what Golberg had written. Check out the video in the link. I don't have time right now.
Uhh...yeah. Actually, we're not humorless. We tend to be the comedians and artists in this country (among other things). But after 8 years of having to defend one's principles against a well funded propaganda machine, one tends to get a little touchy.
that's why Hollywood is liberal.
I am SO SICK of hearing them twist and spin every G-D thing!
1. W IS a moron, Cheney IS a fascist, Palin IS a racist, and there is abundant proof available on the web in news archives to prove it. Helen Thomas is not a wiccan, has not had a house drop on her, and does not have a team of flying monkeys. Fallacies abound in their comparisons.
2. The Oreo/Steele story was discredited BY STEELE HIMSELF.
3. When BO defends himself by saying that he only said her voice was like a witch, he does not include his next sentence, and I quote: "If I were Obama, I would've poured water on her, and she would dissolve!" What does pouring water on her have to do with her voice? Nothing, that's what. He was labeling her a witch and suggested she be destroyed like one.
4. He did the same thing with Cher's comments, as we're all aware of too.
Fair and balanced my aunt Millie's foot!
Actually the argument was Helen Thomas was a Witch
Imma Wiccaen, but prefer the term Witch.
It essentially has two meanings, one of which comes from the torture chambers of the Inquisition of a conspiracy against God,
The other is a theoretical early religion of very protean nature.
As a Catholic, I admit I don't know much about Wicca, but I know Helen Thomas is not a member. Sorry if I offended.
To be Wiccaen you have to have a thick skin
It makes the fires flare up nicely.
And I was unfortunate enough to hear Glenn Beck yesterday talking about California's financial/budget nightmare. He was saying that California just needs to cut back. Cut back, cut back. Then he went on to say he would make the California schools the best in the country. It was all so stupid. I think he was talking with Meg Witman from eBay who is thinking about running for gonverner. he said something about drilling for oil off shore to get more money but Witman conceaded that even she was against that and her responses to his other nonsense indicated that she thought he was a nut. And she is a right wing shit herself. The thing is that even the right wing think Beck is an idiot.
I wonder what the poor jokers who watch these jerks think. I mean here they are getting laid off right and left and losing their houses and their friends and neighbors and family are devastated and everything and then these assholes like Beck, O'Shithead, Hannity, Malkin, Coulter, Goldberg, and all the right wing politicians and the right wing websites they go to etc etc tell them there is no problem and if they do lose their job or can't afford to stay in their house it is their own fault and to suck it up and stop whining. How long will it be until the poor people finally think these people on Fox News are really the assholes and the people who are trying to help them are really not that bad? When will it sink in that the right wing neocons don't give a shit about them?
I saw a few minutes of that. The lady must not have known what Beck was all about when she agreed to be on the show because the way she was looking at him was more like WTF? are you talking about.
That's funny because I was listening on Sirius Radio and sometimes I turn to Fox News when there is a commercial on the station I am listening to (while driving). So I turned to Fox and I was listening (I had now idea it was Beck because the dial only said "Fox News"). I was thinking who is this idiot. It was so over the top with the right wing ridiculousness. Even for Fox! So I stuck it out a little while (actually I went into a store and came out and continued listening because it was so bizarre). Finally I firgured out it was Beck! Oh my god! I wish I could have seen the look on Witman's face (it was Witman wasn't it?). She sure didn't give much confidence she could solve California's problems though.
We reality-based individuals, who actually study history and civics and piece together coherent sentences, who recognize that the liberalism of Jefferson and Roosevelt and Kennedy has given us most of what we consider safe and good and salutary in contemporary American society, who value kindness and empathy over cruelty and bellicosity, have the facts on our side. These deluded reich-wingers are mostly angry, bitter, pathetic white males who project their shortcomings onto the imaginary "they/them" boogyman: Democrats, liberals, progressives, etc. If they weren't so dangerous, they'd be laughable.
Hey, Bernie: Screw YOU!
Great article Mr. Neiwert!
C & L, please don't let this story die like the innocent Church victoms. This country is a tinderbox and O'Reilly, Limbaugh, and their ilk are tossing matches like mad men. I knew when I saw the riled up masses leaving Sarah Palin rallies, that this sort of thing was highly likely.
Now I believe in freedom of speech as much as anyone, but that doesn't allow us to gin up the crazies to burn the theater down. Let's kick these rage merchants where it counts, right in the "Fairness Doctrines"!
Rascalcat
Loveland CO
What if they add 7-UP?
OK, I know it is early and I am not fully caffinated yet, but that comment makes no sense to me.
"Now I believe in freedom of speech as much as anyone, but that doesn't allow us to gin up the crazies..."
OK, I get it. A very weak attempt at humor on a matter I take very seriously.
Lonely much, ysbaddaden?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrojFR7jM9E
Lonely much, ysbaddaden?
I'm going to take that as a big fat YES!
Fri, 02/13/2009 - 07:38 — Rascalcat
Surely you realize they mostly haunt cable shows, where the Fairness Doctrine does not apply:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGSRmemHxlo
Ysbaddaden is here to toss in humor once in a while to keep us all from going insane. We're keeping him with us 'cause we love him.
Mao Tse Tung is supposed to have said, "There is confusion under the sun, and the situation is excellent."
I'm here to add to the confusion.
"I used to go away for weeks in a state of confusion."
[Albert Einstein]
they have to go on cable TV to defend themselves by attacking someone else. Up is down and black is white. By the way Bernie, the story about the Oreo cookies was proven to be false.
they're defending calling an old lady names. How condescending to their viewers.
Bernie is the guy who said when he disagreed with a article at the NYT, that he would like to take a baseball bat over there and bash some heads.
Wow! He's a real sweetheart isn't he? Sounds like a wimp who likes to talk big and dangerous and let others do his dirty work
Care to venture a guess, patricia, how many times this site alone has had to delete a post here for some idiot advocating violence?
I only ask you because you've been here since the beginning and not for argument's sake.
...3,482,153. I would suggest that, spewing incentives for nut cases to do violence to those with whom they disagree via the public airwaves or cable TV or widely disseminated published tomes, is just a tad different than individuals venting on a private website.
However, the sitemonitors here, and on other sites I imagine, generally keep that kind of crap in check, whereas the Fox and EIB folks and other reich-types have no such checks.
... your argument is disproven, since the site monitors here DO keep posters who advocate violence in check.
I didn't nor have I ever claimed or intimated the SM's don't keep them in check, Shadowgm. My point is that nuts exist, and some of them go to left-wing sites to post too; this one included.
I've seen both the deleted warnings and the ones that snuck through. And there have been many of them; unfortunately more than a few directed at me. Pretending only those on the right actually carry out acts of violence is hardly being honest about the situation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TA3c1YqCiI&fe...
BACK AGAIN!
Please, do not be deterred from reading here simply because your attempts at logic and persuasion are so effectively dismantled. Someday, even if you are on someone's payroll, you'll see the folly of your ways and recognize the benevolence of our community.
To the point at hand, you understand that some unpaid nut posting a violent threat on an internet site is very different from someone spewing rhetoric on a cable TV show or in a published book, yes? O'Reilly and Goldberg should be held to a higher standard because they are representing their sponsors and because they have been empowered with a much larger megaphone.
Surely you can see the difference, Dennis.
I can see the difference, and stop calling me Shirley.
I only see what Rush tells me to see, Old Billy.
Just be careful mixing your prescriptions. That oxycontin and viagra can lead to a pretty vicious trip. If it lasts longer than four hours, you should definitely see a doctor.
I took up yoga a few months ago, Billy and don't even take ibuprofen any more. Addicted to it.
Plus you get to stare at the hot intructor's body to make sure you're aligned right. What's not to like about that?
But thanks for the advice. And have a good weekend.
At my last yoga class, we were just finishing up warrior II and getting ready for shivasana when I noticed that the young, attractive yoga instructor had hairier legs than me.
That's okay. It was much better than the other one who won't shut up about the perineum.
Funny how a site with so many wary of the "righteous," we seem to have our own share of the self-righteous.
Yes, and I've been labelled a concern troll for pointing such out in the past.
I think more people need to read Ursula K. LeGuin's The Lathe of Heaven
A concern troll is one who obsesses about the dangers of mercury in his bucket of fish heads.
"Well, Bill, it's okay, because someone else called President Bush a name back in 2001."
Gee, Bernie, I think your BIAS is showing.
More edifying reading:
http://weeklyworldnews.com/
I forgot it's Friday the 13th. I think this is the answer I choose from the list; the real reason the day is considered scary:
Billy Ray Cyrus, Bobby Brown, and Michael Bolton all released albums on Friday the 13th. Hah !
"In a parallel train of thought; It saddens me to think back on all the bad things that Liberalism has done to this country. The worst problem America faces today is Liberalism. They have dumbed down education, they have defined deviancy down. Liberals have attack'd every major institution that made America great."
All you need to to do is switch out the words liberal and liberalism for conservative and conservatism and this particular section becomes a true and honest declaration.
Good one, Capt. Guano (if that is your real name).
'Cause yeah, nothing has dumbed down education like "intelligent" design or abstinance only sex ed. Liberal deviancy certainly is baser than hanging around airport toilets or having hookers diaper you up and liberals have really made a mess of major instituions like Wall Street or Main Street.
... is the apex, the height, the zenith, the apogee of ignorance.
What a buffoon. What a ma-roon.
And, to borrow the spelling of one his fellow mouth-breathers:
What a moran. ;)
They're Irish?
don't throw Oreo cookies at black people, because liberals don't obsess about racial identity.
an Oreo is a terrible thing to waste.
And a terrible thing when you're wasted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1F5TJdDh5k
..or even go down that aisle in the grocery. But, I'm glad to know Hydrox are back, because I always thought they were far superior to Oreo. Oreos taste like they're just burnt to make them seem rich and chocolaty - Hydrox actually taste like there's some chocolate in them. So, I guess I'll get some next time I go shopping - thanks for contributing to my sugar load!
Totally dangerous when your wasted.
If I ever see Michael Steele, I would love to offer him an Oreo.
When I saw this the other night, it so enraged me that I wanted to send Goldberg an email and tell him "screw you." I couldn't find his email....just found a forum....I think he's a chicken s#%t since apparently he doesn't have a public email so we can respond to his nonsense.
I heard this bastard the other day on a local AM radio conservative talk show here in St. Louis. The jerk was calling Obama "The Messiah" and "The Deity." I immediately thought of Rush the Pig Limbaugh, because those are terms he uses. Turns out, Goldberg did interview the Pig Limbaugh for his latest book.
In that same segment with Goldberg, Billy the Bully was talking about the Will Ferrell show and said that it was "so predictable." Well, Bernie frgn' Goldberg is oh "so predictable."
And, once again, Billy the Bully bashes Media Matters. He made a comment during that segment that MM only bashes the right; they "never" bash the left. I asked BillO why he never bashes his buddy Brent Bozell's web site, Media Research Center....that site always bashes what they consider to be left wing, liberal organizations....they never bash right wing organizations like Faux News.
Goldberg is a jerk. He's a worthless POS.
Well don't feel so bad about that. He wants to call Obama the Messiah because he thinks liberals thinks he is a god when we know that isn't the truth. They thought Bush a the Messiah. Remember when he said he spoke to his higher father not his father. He also said that the Iraq war was a holy war. The religious rightwingnuts truly believe god sent him. That is the difference. Liberals wouldn't presume god would get mixed up in politics. On the other hand maybe god truly wanted the democratics to win because the republicans have done such a bad job of it.
the Messiah! I hardly ever listen to Pig, but when I happen to catch him in my car, he infuriates me, so I just have to send him an email. Every time I do, I start the email off with "Dear Messiah." I explain that he is "The Messiah" because he is all knowing; he is never wrong; and he has the answer to all of our problems.
... one of the architects of the 'mainstream media' myth.
His first book was BIAS, pushing the premise that *all* media outlets are biased and dishonest. (Of course, we need to remember Bernie was quite happy cashing paychecks from his employers at CBS and being the frontispiece on shows like '48 Hours' for many, many years.)
"Let me elaborate: in 2002, I saw Goldberg's book Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News in the bookstore and read it. Before I started this blog, I wrote a review of Bias for Amazon.com and placed it in the addendum of this post."
>>>[ http://scoobiedavis.blogspot.com/2007/05/bern... ]
There is an old saying "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never harm me". There is a difference when you Bernie encourages people to use a bat to beat someone at NYT and saying you are a moron. That is why we need the fairness doctrine back.
Snip - UPDATE 7/27/8 7:08 p.m.: KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WVLT) -- A neighbor who says she has known church shooting suspect Jim D. Adkisson, 58, for a few years tells Volunteer TV's Stephen McLamb that Adkisson has a problem with religion that stems from a childhood of being forced to attend church by his parents.
The neighbor says Adkisson believes the Bible contradicts itself.
>>>[ http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/259... ]
The killer was a normal, sane liberal until he read Goldberg's book. Pillar of the community...
...that perhaps he was suffering from untreated mental health issues related to serving in Viet Nam. He sort laments that he didn't die there, and it seems like he feels guilty or sorry about that. Just my take...."normal" people don't usually commit mass murder.
This parasite is a worthless piece of shit. I think this article pretty much makes the point. He instills hatred and a false premise for preventing this country with moving away from his fascist, twisted and fantasy world vision that he and the propaganda network have invisioned.
he, along with limpballs, vannity, bor, she-man, savage..and the rest of these evil parasites need to jump in the same plane one day and fly around the Bermuda Triangle until they run out of fuel.
Disgusting, cancerous traitors to the good of this once great nation. They all need to burn in hell.
that this man that pulled out a gun and chose to shoot bullets at real people in the church, probably would have been welcomed and comforted in that very church. Had he chosen to reflect and be comforted, he might also have made connections that might possibly have led him to another job.
His intolerance and the intolerance that was planted in him by the likes of Goldberg and BOR, Rush and the rest is the real poison in this country.
The practice of teaching people to hate has only one logical end and that is the existence of fearful and hateful people.
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Steele's sister, Monica Turner, founded Brown Sugar Unlimited LLC in late 2003 as an investment company, according to State Department of Assessments and Taxation documents. She closed the business in March 2006.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/business/bal-stee...
BROWN SUGAR UNLIMITED LLC Description
BROWN SUGAR UNLIMITED LLC is in the Business Consulting Services, N.E.C. industry in BETHESDA, MD. This company currently has approximately 10 to 20 employees and annual sales of $1,000,000 to $4,999,999.
The property was bought from Monica Turner Tyson, Tyson's ex-wife. The ex-heavyweight champ signed the house over to her for $1 in 2002 as part of a divorce settlement.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/i...
http://www.brownsugarcatering.net/pages.asp?p... ??? ;-P
Interesting: brownsugarcatering, at [642 Hilliard St Manchester, CT] was not to far from her CT "Mansion" in [Farmington, CT]
>[Estimated Time: 23 minutes Estimated Distance: 16.63 miles]
I don't follow. What are you getting at?
Then noticed that Steele's Sister's company has the same name as a CO. that was 16.63 miles away from her old home in CT. According to articles she started it in MD., that's all.
She got it for $1 and sold it too .50 cent... :-P
There's an edit battle going on over whether Atkisson's reference to Goldberg's book should be included in Goldberg's wikipedia page. A reference to it gets added, then it gets removed by one of a couple of people. Apparently they think it's no big deal. Nothing to see, no controversy here, move on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Goldberg
What's bernie doing there in that there picture
Describing his admiration for Dolly Parton's boobs?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_utP1mGoutQ
Actually, judging from the width of the hand-spread, I think he's describing Rush Limbaugh's ass cheeks.
Whether it's right or wrong, Kosher or not, I just don't care. But the truth is.....I HATE these people. The O'Reillys, the Goldbergs, the Hannitys, the Limbaughs. All of 'em. I hate them.
You might as well hate rain.
As long as there is someone waiving hundred dollar bills and perceived fame, there will be some amoral schmuck willing to whore him/herself.
I believe it was the illustrious Ice-T who said, "Don't hate the playa; hate the game."
Don't hate the puppets; hate the puppetmasters.
What ever happen to the fact that if people make untrue statement they had to pay a price for it..
Not only are lies excepted by our government but encouraged for their political benefits.
We have to go backwards in time so we can go forward... This is by making people which broadcasts their hate & lies through the news media and talks shows pay a price for it..
We can no longer except these attacks used by the news media and talk shows as a method fir them to divide Americans to gain power , wealth and control of our country with their lies , BS and propaganda.
If we do not stop and rid our country of this method of propaganda , then we will lose our freedom and democratic in this country..
If the acceleration of these tools in the past 8 plus years have not taught us anything then we are dome as citizens and a nation..
The control and power which is being forced on us , reached far beyond the control of Britain before the Tea party..
Seem as if the tools of the internet to let people release their feelings and emotions ,,, has also been a tool to stop the real protest again the takeover of our country by this military-industrial complex...
A difference in a person's opinion is a good thing. But, when used as a tool to divide a nation into groups to hate each other is a very dangerous tool to be used for their power and control..
The true American once stated "Wake Up Americans" ,, because tomorrow it will be to d... late..
You guys need to get in touch with reality (and learn a lot of history - not the revisionist history so many commenters are making up). The guy was a mad man, a nut case. He's insane.
Charles Manson found inspiration in The Beatle's White Album.
BTW - my son-in-law and grandson were in the church at the time of the shooting.
I'll bet he plays with his battleship in the bathtub . . . .
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This lie was debunked four years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhUFxaauNTE
How these people can sleep at night knowing their words are nothing but lies, half-truths, propaganda, and biased is beyond me. This is especially true when you consider the affect their actions have on people such as Atkinson! A fine example of their bias can be found at
http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/2179964...
By the way, although I have been unable to find an email address for goldberg, I do have a fairly long list of email addresses you might be interested in. I know I use it all the time when I get angry and want to vent. It probably does no good to email these people, but at least I feel like I am able to do something! Take a look!
http://www.webegeek.net/newsmedia.html
Not only is this perverted hate monger walking our streets but he's being given prime time on the US propaganda channel - Fox. It figures - everyone associated with Fox is mentally ill and sociopathic.
... to the Doughy Pantload, Jonah "Liberal Fascism" Goldberg, but he might as well be.
A couple of neanderthals with reptilian brains. Both of their "book" titles are laughable -- and the contents, too.
Isn't "Doughy Pantload" the greatest reich-winger nickname of all time? ;)
who's related to whom with these religious types...
wtf he changed his name to ... Bernie Goldbug? and got all mean?
...hmm? What was that?
Sorry, I thought I heard a tiny little rodent going "squeak squeak squeak". Must have imagined it.
the fascination with these fringers at the lowest rung. I don't understand why C&L keeps beating these horses to death. Am wondering why too, the hellish BillO receives so much attention when he is such old news and everybody knows what he's going to say before he says it so predictably and his era is terminally passe`. So, why cling to it?
It's not 2000 or 2004 anymore. The Goldburgs of the world don't know they're ded.
Maybe it's just me.
'taint very nice of her, Billy, is it?
"For what it's worth, this is a farrago of strawmen:"
Is that where some guy got fed into a wood chipper?
mainly because he's a former liberal. They point that out in every introduction.
Wonder if he was also lying when he was a liberal?
and...anybody who reads a book then goes out and shoots someone has other problems. Like the Unibomber reading Al Gore's stuff.
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