What motivated a Florida gunman to open fire on Latino exchange students?
By David Neiwert Wednesday Mar 04, 2009 6:30pmIt's fairly astonishing, really, how little coverage the horrendous shooting rampage in Florida earlier this week has gotten in the American press: Someone walks up to a townhouse meeting room full of Chilean college students and opens fire on them -- after having warned neighbors earlier not to have any immigrants in her home, and asking one of them if they wanted to join him in his "revolution."
Two kids (including Racine Balbontin, 22, left) dead, five hospitalized. This is just a mundane story? Well, it's a major, front-page news story in Chile, at least, and in much of the rest of Latin America.
Northwest Florida Daily News reports:
Cooperative Radio reporter Stephanie Hunt spoke to the Daily News via phone from Santiago, Chile, Friday morning. She said Chilean Government Minister Francisco Vidal called the crime "macabre" and "brutal."
Hunt said Chile's Deputy Consul General is working to get family members to the United States so they can be with the injured students and bring back the bodies of those who didn't survive. Families traveled from all over Chile Thursday to Santiago to meet with officials in an attempt to expedite the process of getting passports and visas.
Although the case is sensitive because it involves foreign nationals and 14 victims total, The Walton County Sheriff's Office released some new information.
"It was a tremendously horrific scene," said Sheriff Mike Adkinson. "Even the survivors are victims."
Adkinson said the shooting happened about 1:45 a.m. when Dannie Baker, 60, approached Unit 12 in the Summer Lakes townhome complex and opened fire through a window. When he was done, Adkinson said, he went back to his home at Unit 25.
We're gradually learning more about the shooter, Dannie Baker -- but a heap of questions remain unanswered. It appears that he used to campaign for Republicans, but they dropped him when he sent some e-mails in 2007 that apparently frightened them.
According to one news story:
Not much is known about Baker or his lifestyle yet, according to the Sheriff's Office.
He was a volunteer at the Walton County Republican Headquarters during the Bush-Cheney presidential campaign in 2004.
"He volunteered the same time I did," said Pat Magee, a member of the Walton County Republican Executive Committee. "I was shocked. The person I knew would have never done anything bad to anyone."
Magee said Baker answered phones and did general office work during the campaign. Although she didn't remember much about his personal life, she said he had mentioned he was from Alabama and had attended Auburn University.
Jim Anders, another member of the Republican Executive Committee, said Baker was very active during the 2004 election but added that he was very eccentric. He said Baker traveled to Atlanta once a year to assist in some sort of music ministry there.
Baker did not volunteer during last year's election, but local Republicans said they began to receive disturbing e-mails from him about national political issues, said Anders.
"Dannie had some emotional problems, it seemed," said Anders, who added that that many e-mails were "radical" and "inappropriate."
The e-mails were so disturbing they were reported to the Sheriff's Office, the Republican volunteers said.
The Sheriff's Office said the e-mails did not target any individuals, but would not reveal any more details about them.
A followup profile sheds some more light:
Meanwhile, Baker remains a mystery to those who have met him locally.
He has a registered nonprofit organization in Florida called Perfect Heart Ministry. The mission statement in the articles of incorporation filed in 2000 say the corporation is "organized for church ministry of promoting the Gospel through Christian music in the State of Florida."
Baker is listed as the incorporator. Two others, Trina and Jason Myers, formerly of Freeport, are listed as being on the board of directors. Calls to more recent phone numbers for the couple have gone unreturned.
Attorney Bart Fleet said he didn't realize he'd met Baker until the Daily News called him recently to ask about the corporation. Fleet's office is listed as the registered agent for the ministry and had helped Baker file documents with the state.
Fleet said he hasn't spoken to Baker since the fall of 2001.
"I'm probably a registered agent for thousands of corporations that we have set up over the past years," Fleet explained. "I don't remember anything about him other than this. We basically set up his corporation and filed his paperwork with the Internal Revenue Service."
When Baker volunteered with the local Republican Party headquarters during the 2004 election campaign, other volunteers remembered that he traveled to Atlanta once a year to help with the Atlanta Fest Christian music festival. But festival organizers said there are so many volunteers that no one remembered Baker specifically.
One person who met Baker on several occasions said she didn't know much about his past, but that he made her feel "cautious and uneasy."
Cheryl Rhoads cleans the town home directly across from where Baker lived at Summer Lake in Miramar Beach.
"He must have been sitting at his window, looking out all the time," Rhoads said.
She said it didn't matter if it was 6 a.m. or 2:30 p.m., Baker would ring the doorbell after she arrived at her job.
"He wouldn't wait to be invited in," Rhoads said. "He would just come in when you opened the door."
Rhoads said sometimes Baker would ask her how much she would charge to clean his home and sometimes he only wanted to talk about religion. He even gave her a copy of his book "Man's Perfection before God."
A Miami Herald writer also profiled the case. A local blogger, the Keyboard Detective dug up plenty more on Baker, including some input from someone who claims to have known him:
In general, Dannie has been a mentally ill person for a long time (it's not important for how long). His health has been deteriorating dramatically since 2003 I would say. While in 2003 he was still quite OK although I have seen dramatic mood swings and outbursts of agression mainly against weaker persons, usually girls in his house who were also WAT students.
It's also apparent his attorneys fully intend to explore the mental-illness component of the shootings.
However, it's a cop-out to simply ascribe this to his illness and let it go at that. Because there is a pattern of "isolated incidents" in which mentally ill people select their victims based on eliminationist scapegoating rhetoric from right-wing ideologues.
I've written about this previously:
Part of the problem is that we actually have seen this happen time after time after time: A mentally unstable person is inspired by hateful right-wing rhetoric to act out violently -- and yet because of that mental state, the matter is dismissed as idiosyncratic, just another "isolated incident." And over the months and years, these "isolated incidents" mount one after another.
But simply ascribing these acts to mental illness is a cop-out. It fails to account for the gross irresponsibility of the people who employed the rhetoric that inspired the violent action in the first place, and their resulting moral culpability.
The clearest illustration of this is a case that occurred here in Seattle in the mid-1980s:
People who study the far right have known many of these people over the years: Gordon Kahl. Robert Matthews. Tim McVeigh.
One of the most memorable of these, for me, was a man named David Lewis Rice.
On Christmas Eve 1985, Charles and Annie Goldmark were at home with their sons Derek, 12, and Colin, 10, preparing for a holiday dinner when the doorbell rang. It was Rice, a 27-year-old unemployed transient, posing as a taxicab driver delivering a package. He brandished a toy gun and forced his way into their home, then set about using chloroform to render all four Goldmarks unconscious. He then proceeded to kill them slowly, using a steam iron and a knife that he used to insert into at least one of the victim's brains. Annie was pronounced dead on the spot, Colin pronounced dead on arrival, while Charles died there a short while later; Derek finally succumbed 37 days later.
But Rice wasn't just a deranged loony -- though he probably fit that description too. He also was a deranged loony who had been set into action by the malicious lies of a group of right-wing haters, whose venom became his inspiration, as the HistoryLink piece explains:
David Rice, a former steel worker from Colorado, joined an extremist group in Washington called the Duck Club. Although the Duck Club was almost defunct, the Seattle chapter still functioned. The group convinced Rice that Charles Goldmark was Jewish and a Communist. (Charles Goldmark's parents, John and Sally Goldmark, had won a highly publicized libel case in 1964 when they were accused of being Communists.)
The Goldmark case is a centerpiece of James Aho's study of the far right, This Thing of Darkness: A Sociology of the Enemy (which I've discussed previously). Aho goes into more detail about what drove Rice, as well as the circumstances surrounding his decision to kill:
Conversion (resocialization) ... occurs not through brainwashing of passive victims or through obsessive self-conversion. It takes place through active efforts of the disciple, sometimes indifferent to ideology or theology as such, to solidify and preserve social ties with his mentors.
... Ed Fasel [fictitious name] was head of the local Duck Club chapter. It was from Ed that Rice received the tragic misinformation that Charles and Annie Goldmark were leading Seattle Communists. In the course of discussions concerning local subversives and crooks who were presumably frustrating Rice's efforts to secure a job, Fasel, mistaking Charles for his father John, related to Rice that the Goldmarks had been investigated and that Charles was "regional director of the American Communist Party." Rice took this to mean that Charles was the "highest obtainable target I could reach, the greatest value informationally." After handcuffing the Goldmarks, Rice intended to interrogate them about the next person in the conspiratorial hierarchy, possibly to preempt at the last moment the impending invasion of alien troops [a conspiracy theory to which Rice subscribed].
What occasioned Fasel to dredge up a name associated with an event that had occurred two decades previously in another part of the state? In a Seattle Port Commission election during the summer of 1985, one of the candidates was Jim Wright, a Republican. Wright's campaign manager was none other than Ashley Holden, a defendant in the Goldmark trial. [Holden had been a leading torchbearer in the McCarthyite "Red fever" that swept Washington state in the late 1940s and '50s, and had been one of the people who falsely accused the Goldmarks in print of being part of the Communist Party.] Upon discovering this unusual link, the Seattle media jumped on it, and the name "Goldmark," with its unfortunate connotations, "got out again," to use one informant's phrase.
In my interview with him, Holden convincingly insisted that he knew nothing of the Duck Club nor any of its members. "I deplored the murder," he said. "There is no question," he went on, parroting local wisdom, "Rice was demented."
I have met some of the old leaders of the Duck Club, including "Fasel" -- whose real name was Homer Brand. They reminded me of Richard Butler: they had a moral stench about them like rotting corpses. Of course, they never faced legal liability for their role in the murders. But they had blood on their hands, just as surely as does the "Libertarian National Socialist Green Party" and whoever else gave Jeff Weise his inspiration.
The problem is that this has happened more than "on occasion" -- rather, there is a history of this kind of violence, and there's a consistent pattern to it. What's most noteworthy is that the violence expands with the increasing use of eliminationist rhetoric. When people look at Dannie Baker's rampage and ask "Why?" -- as so many are -- that history and that pattern are a good place to start looking.
Anyone want to wager that Dannie Baker is not a Lou Dobbs fan?








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look like Brad Pitt.
...looks like my second husband. From Alabama. Living in Florida. Same age, too.
WHAT DOES LIMBAUGH HAVE IN COMMON WITH THESE PEOPLE?
Goebbel's Nazi brownshirts on Kristalnatch
Milosevic's Serb Nationalist in Serbrenica
Rwandan Hutu Generals during the Tutusi genocice
THEY, LIKE RUSH, ALL USED HATE RADIO TO MOBILIZE THEIR CRAZIES TO VIOLENCE!
Goebbels ==> WAR CRIMINAL
Milosevic ==> WAR CRIMANAL
Hutu Generals ==> WAR CRIMINALS
Rush Limbaugh ==> defacto leader of the REPUBLICAN PARTY
Can you imagine if it had been an African-American U.S. citizen who had killed a bunch of Swedish exchange students? = Wall-to-wall media coverage.
Our "media" are corrupt and complicit.
...comes real responsibility.
If the MSM covers this they have to accept their complicity.
For far too long the MSM has allowed rightwing hate and violence mongering go unchallenged and uncondemned,
is very frightened of this story. Honest reporting would pull back the scab of a festering truth...that among them are the most vicious and vile of human beings parading their hate and being paid millions for doing so.
An honest discussion would reveal the need for some kind of halt to their rantings.
Do I really have to elaborate?
Only because you asked.
;)
This story is being buried by the mainstream. I have had email communication with Robbyn Brooks of the NWF Daily News and she is also astonished how little interest there is in the story as she comes from a TV news background and she says she would have been all over it, considering what a shocking event it was and how it is covered all over South America. She updated her coverage today and told me there will be more in a few hours. I hope the MSM doesn't stomp this into the ground. Thanks for posting this story C&L.
...it's dangerous!"
That's what they'll be saying all over Latin America. Just like the "news" people here are warning about going to Mexico for Spring Break....
Their skin was brown?
Hannity? O'Reily? Dobbs?
This man was a walking heap of tinder.
Was it HATE RADIO and TV pundits who threw gasoline on him and lit him up?
I want to know, dammit. I want this story talked about. These kids could have been ours!
My heart is breaking for their friends and families.
Actually, the young woman who was killed was fair and blonde.
Hey! That's my crazy uncle, I told him not to do it.
to be joking. Grow up.
Unfortunately I am 35, so all hope is lost for me. I have grown used to this now, after those past 8 years, all the news stories all the lost lives. I defiantly don't like it, I especially don't like Christians and so called conservatives doing it. BushCo fueled the fire. I used to get so angry that my comments would get deleted.
Like that story about the 14 year old Iraqi girl that was raped in front of her family then set on fire. The FOX news people, the religious retards have destroyed this country, I have grown very callous. I fear someone from my town will kill me soon some day too.....
Thanks for ratcheting up the paranoia! Thanks for helping define us/them! Thanks for validating anger towards non-white non-christians! Thanks for revving up the base!
the victims were white and probably Christian.
Not all white people in America have US passports, ya know?
The gunman was targeting non-americans.
I was just pointing out that racism is not the only motivation for these nuts. They have enough hate to also multitask with some xenophobia.
"Birds of a Feather" popping into my head?
Weird.
For putting this into some greater historical context.
Yes, there definitely seems to be almost a media blackout on this issue. The only place in United States media that has offered any real coverage is Univision. As I said the day after this happened, they interviewed the father and brother of the young girl who was among the dead briefly and it was heartbreaking to listen to the father's grief. They also interviewed someone who was there.
It is very sad and very telling that only Spanish-language media is giving this terrible crime any substantial coverage. Ironically the very media source that Repug nativists blast us in the Hispanic communities across the country for listening to.
Oh, come now, folks. Be reasonable. Why should they waste time on this trivial matter (two people dead in an anti-immigrant shooting spree), when they've only scratched the surface on the crucial and rife-with-nuance "Octo-Mom" story?
But somehow, it's not surprising. I think we've all prepared ourselves for this and more.
The media burying this story is a disgrace.
This is a direct result of the rightwing radio hate fest.
No, they won't assume any responsibility. That would force them to change their ways. And they will never do that with a Dem in the WH.
Especially a black man. Hannity, O'Lielly, Flush Limbaugh, Mann Coulter, Malkilln, Savage(aka Wiener) all are partially responsible.
Oh, we can't forget Palin. She Really help stir this shit up during the campaign.
Thank you David. For keeping this story alive. Maybe you'll get lucky and some journalist with a little integrity left will bring this story to life. Because it's dying fast.
I heard about this the other day. We've been talking about it at work. But most people didn't hear about it. how fucked up is that?
pathetic.
You're forgetting about this guy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Knoxville_U...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8cd_1234561287
Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity on accused shooter's reading list
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/Jul/28/chur...
Yes, very similar to Adkisson who went on rampage i Unitarian church, and will be even more effectively hushed up this time.
This is just the beginning.
Ok, i'm outta here. ga nite folks.
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i absolutely lay the blame at the doorsteps, or should i say, the gates of the estates of hate-mongerers like limbaugh, hannity, savage, glenn beck, coulter, malkin and yes, tim lahaye.
good luck squeezing your over-bloated heads through the eye of the needle!!
The GOP's face to the world is blow-dried GQ muppets like Mittens Romney, human-size Barbie Dolls like Nancy "ok so I've had some work done" Pfotenhauer, and tough but kinda-sorta handsome working-class-broley-meets-empty-suit-monobrows like Sean Hannity (okay, there's the Coultergeist aka the Saxon Klaxon, but forget about her for a moment, or all eternity)....in fact scary-creepy dudes like this guy make up their reptilian backbone throughout the south, and even too many parts of the "liberal" Seattle area as well (Puyallup aka Puke-it-all-up anyone?).
Someone should round these guys up and put them in a huge cage in the desert so they can kill and cannibalize each other for a reality TV show. Now that would make for some good teevee.
I've said it before, these people need rounded up and removed from the country period. They are easy to spot, they have tons of yellow ribbons and god bless America stuff all over, talk with a twang, and go to church on the weekends. Fox is responsible, Limbaugh, and all the hater TV stars. Throw Malkin in there with the crazies too, doubt she would last very long, oh well.
that the neo-fascists Romney, Hannity, Coulter et al (can't say about Pfotenhauer as she was just a talking head) are probably uglier on the inside, and certainly more dangerous to society as a whole, than even this man, and I use the term loosely.
It's just a part of Hannity's revolution he preachs on the radio.
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about being 'hannitized' or a 'shittohead', they're PROUD of their brainwashin'.....
The 'authoritarian conservative follower' is the most manipulated and dangerous humanoid around, their 'brain' and 'conscience' are mere putty in the sculpturing hands of their 'hate-mongering leaders'.
They have demonized anything that isn't 'meathead conservative', espsecially LIBERALS, as the enemy and there will be more and more of these idiots as the economy tanks, BE CAREFUL !
Last night Alan Colmes had a caller talking about shooting liberals, these are the 'koolaid drinkers' on steroids!
Just keep screaming. There are more of us than them . . . many more. We keep screaming and they'll pay attention sooner than later.
I have been posting these stories on my facebook page since the shooting occured, many of my 'friends' are journalists, well-known ones too. nothing...
Except for Robbyn Brooks of NWFDailyNews.com who hopefully will soon be well-known.
I googled around found a local video stream.
http://www.weartv.com/newsroom/top_stories/vi...
I also discovered the Florida gun laws are NRA all the way, no restrictions at all that I can tell. Think C&L had a post about FL gun laws way back.
before the NRA shows up to have a rally.
I just want to throw up.
ism
All this reminds me of this guy from Pennsylvania. He has a website advocating shooting immigrants and "liberals," and he writes crazy letters to the paper:
http://ourrepublic.us/index.html
Check out his letters. He also posts the citizen's responses, which he thinks makes him look good, but it actually doesn't.
http://ourrepublic.us/lititz.html
pass that on to the FBI.
don't hesitate, don't assume they're already aware of this guy.
That's just 1 guy. They are the majority around here, and I am well known, I was very outspoken. They know my name, they constantly rob me, screw me and hurt me. They run the local governments all is lost in central PA. I really don't know what to say other than these people put me on the domestic terrorist watch list, I can't get a job anywhere. Comcast rips me off PPL(Pennsylvania power and electric) robs me. I am scared to stay, at the same time i am scared to leave, what might happen to me being pulled over on the watch list out of state? I started driving west on 30 and just randomly pulled over, a state cop was following me. How do i get away from here? Where should I go? Where do I live and work? They are the Church people no doubts.
but i've been running scared for 10 years now, afraid of the fascists who've overrun my country.
eventually i came to a place where i realized it was all a joke; mel blanc saved my life.
stay calm and keep the peace, bro. that's about all i've got for you.
This is as important a news story as any shooting involving 7 people... which unfortunately there are quite a few of. So the premise that this isn't getting enough press might be true, but certainly not out of the norm. We've become quite accustomed to homicides here in the US.
it's not getting coverage in the corporate media, because he was yet ANOTHER right wing lunatic, probably a big limbaugh fan.
ever notice the disproportianate rate at which right-wing lunatics KILL?
we on the left generally speaking don't pull that psycho $#!+.
on the right, they kill with reckless abandon. they kill our leaders: jfk, rfk, mlk, john lennon, and i would argue paul wellstone.
Michael Connell went the same way as Wellstone. Who? Republican IT Guru was scheduled to deposition, plane crashed in PA. Google news it. Raw Story and At-Largely covered it a lot.
i realized when william colby, former director of the CIA turned upo dead, after he was allegedly about to spill the beans to kay griggs, former wife of GEORGE GRIGGS (another name to add to your rolodex) that they'll absolutely kill their own.
the only thing for you and i to do is to keep flipping on light switches, because it makes cockroaches a lot easier to stomp on.
sure i'm scared as hell; i bluff on these threads because i want ya'll to stay courageous.
but silence ain't golden; silence is BETRAYAL.
i can tell you, as someone whose grandparents came from nazi germany, WE CAN NOT REMAIN SILENT.
now might be a good time to start.
sure as hell can't hurt!
Progressives might start thinking about locally networking with other like-minded to help keep eachother aware. I live in a red section of CA and some of the local newspaper site replies to my 'liberal view' comments have been a little threatening causing me to stop, you can't debate zombies.
who calls anyone who speaks Spanish, and isn't blonde-haired and light-eyed, a Mexican...
and anyone who speaks a language other than English must be an immigrant...
and anyone who is an immigrant, especially if they're not blonde-haired and light-eyed, has illegally immigrated...
and that means they're ruining his America and taking jobs away from REAL Americans.
There are far too many of his kind out there.
Oh, but he is the darling of mainstream media, primetime CNN for God's sake. Harmless smarmy pompous ass is all.
evil mouthpieces encouraging hate crimes, or implying through repeated evil speech that is is morally correct to target minorities.
Kilmeade that morning mouthpiece, twice on Fox at least has outright called for crimes to be committed, once for tasering or battering to a pulp dissidents against the American status quo, second for staging car bombs against innocent civilians in foreign countries that he doesn't like.
Videos of his evil immoral Faux utterances are on Youtube.
the lady he killed was blond. The victims looked more Caucasian than the inbred-looking killer.
What I want to know is what the f*ck was wrong with the neighbors. The asshole had made previous threats and had told some of the neighbors that he was going to take some drastic measures. WTF? And people just shat there. At least let the people know, maybe it was a small issue that got out of hand... but WTF neighbors...
Its not that uncommon for people to vaguely repeat at work, what Faux has muttered about nasty 'illegals' on the previous evenings TV. We don't always get the full rant and overtones, but a subdued rehash filtered through a hazy memory.
and if not suffering from impaired brain function, not far from it. Probably a dittohead.
That neo nazi James Cummings and his dirty bombs, his evil plan was cut short by his wife putting a bullet into his head on dec 9th.
http://www.bangornews.com/detail/99263.html
Was this covered or ignored by the big news media !?
Yes, completely ignored. His wife did us all a favor, I hope she gets off.
Was this a repeat of how the 93 WTC bomb maker was a FBI controlled insider, being handled for money.
That disturbing fact (and phonecall recording) came out during the trials of the 93 bombers.
It would have been a big feather in their cap to have arrested him on the day of his planned event complete with workable devices in his car.
Too often going by recent news, FBI agent provocateurs supply resources to the morons that might go do sh1t like this if they had the skills or supplies.
Everybody knows that only brown people, especially a'rabs, can be terrorists.
White, all American boys are above all that. It musta have been a misprint, a slip by the editor.
The Fundamentalist
== Knows no greater joy than the sound of his own voice.
== Knows no greater terror than the god he creates in his own image.
== Knows no greater evil than an unfettered mind.
== Knows no greater blasphemy than being told "NO."
"It's critical to our national health and survival to restore social virtue and purity to our state and nation," Johnson said. "Is living together without the benefit of marriage good? Is homosexuality good? If cohabiting and homosexual behavior is detrimental to the individual and to society, besides breaking the law, then society has the responsibility to resist it."
[Arizona State Rep. Karen Johnson, a Mormon fundamentalist who
has been married 5 times, in Arizona Republic, Feb. 4, 1999]
"Who are beneficiaries of the Court's protection? Members of various
minorities including criminals, atheists, homosexuals, flag burners,
illegal immigrants (including terrorists), convicts, and pornographers."
[US Presidential candidate Pat Buchanan, Address to the Heritage Foundation, January 29, 1996]
"If there is a God who will damn his children forever, I would rather go to hell than to go to heaven and keep the society of such an infamous tyrant. I make my choice now. I despise that doctrine. It has covered the cheeks of this world with tears. It has polluted the hearts of children, and poisoned the imaginations of men. It has been a constant pain, a perpetual terror to every good man and woman and child. It has filled the good with horror and with fear; but it has had no effect upon the infamous and base. It has wrung the hearts of the tender, it has furrowed the cheeks of the good. This doctrine never should be preached again. What right have you, sir, Mr. clergyman, you, minister of the gospel to stand at the portals of the tomb, at the vestibule of eternity, and fill the future with horror and with fear? I do not believe this doctrine, neither do you. If you did, you could not sleep one moment. Any man who believes it, and has within his breast a decent, throbbing heart, will go insane. A man who believes that doctrine and does not go insane has the heart of a snake and the conscience of a hyena."
[Robert G. Ingersoll, "The Liberty of Man, Woman and Child", 1877]
floridaroofer wrote:
Snip - "I used to live next to this guy for years. Two doors down exactly on the end unit by old 98. He has always been nuts."
"I think the general consensus was that we thought he was capable of losing it, but never thought he actually would. I honestly think from talking to him as a neighbor and hearing other neighbors stories that he was just one of those guys who thought we were losing the country to foreigners, liberals and people who didn't believe in God."
[ http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/county_15423... ]
That sounds like a fairly accurate definition of the (C)hristian/(C)onservative - (R)epublican/(R)eligious party...
(G)ods (O)nly (P)arty. :-O
We can all make jokes about the type of people to whom the New Republican Party appeals, but this crazy fucker is the new base of the GOP.
Before Ronald Reagan cut crazy people loose to save money on health care back in the early Eighties, this motherfucker would have been safely locked up against his will!
One of my high school friends, a paranoid schizophrenic, was incarcerated in a mental hospital. His medications were scheduled and he was sheltered and fed. When he was cut loose in 1981, he quickly became homeless and disappeared until the day he died twelve years later. I really hate Republicans.
Me too. Gosh I hope I don't hurt some hatemongers feelings. Then they might not wanna be a liberal like me.
Oh wait I can still be PC if I try. hmmm... I hate the Republican party. OK then.
Are there incidents of liberals/progressives/Democrats killing for political reasons? I can't remember any. (Maybe I'm having a brain lock.) There seems to be a pattern of violence from the right that isn't reciprocated. Democracy is where people can have differing opinions without resorting to violence. Those who tend toward Fascism, are the ones who resort to violence.
Those two should band together with their political brothers and form the Loser White Dudes With Beard Party.*
* Not to be mistaken for the Loser White Dudes Without Beard Party
This is the kind of thing Hugo Chavez is fomenting against the Jewish population in Venezuela...his red-shirted thugs have already attacked 2 synagogues...the same tactics used by Hitler. My wife, who is a Venezuelan immigrant, is sometimes afraid to leave the house, go shopping alone, or go to a club at night even with me because of the anti-Latino sentiments we feel, the little nasty comments and stares.
There was a news story hours after this happened that I had surfed into last week in the FLA newspapers (I keep an eye on red state news providers and their natives's posted comments - know thine enemies) .... The first reports of the shooting also quoted the shooter/minister's neighbor who claimed Baker had said something to the effect: 'get ready, the revolution begins right now' moments before he walked over to the student's apartment.
It was obvious Baker was referring to Hannity's (and others of his ilk) frothing at the mouth as of late and in particular Hannity's online poll of last week that was widely discussed regarding 'revolution', etc. No doubt Baker has Limbaugh buzzing in his ear day-after-day escalating his hatred for the world around him.
I've been stunned that the incident was so little reported and here we are a week later . . .
As a chilean that follows your blog, I wasn't that surprised about the complete veil of silence of the US media about this.
For me, the reason is because the US society in general has gotten numb about rampage killings, drive-by shootings, and so forth. Everything gun-related I think.
In Chile this is big news (with special envoys to Pensacola and Miramar beach) not only because it happened to a group of chileans, but because we are not use to witness such random acts of violence.
In "real" America it is big news too but in order to find that big news we have to dig and dig in local press. There have been several similar incidents and even domestic terrorist with what should have been screaming red headlines "dirty bomb" builder with "conservative values" which were tiny headlines in tiny towns.
"Real" Americans generally have to find the news about their own nation in the foreign press or dig down and search for news from local news sources.
The censorship that exists within the US is legion and the average person would not know how much censorship exists in the US unless they travel around the US and turn on the TV/read local newspapers and witness the area's locals being left so in the dark and choreographed to BE ignorant about the world around them.
I listen to the news on TV and/or read and have a term: "pickle news" held over from my 11-years of living in Iran (including Iraq/Iran war)..when I returned to my metropolitan area for a brief visit with the stench and visuals of war clinging to my psyche
...I turned on the evening news and the FIRST story was "new pickle factory opening"
Black guy, on his face, on an Oakland BART platform?
Blew the fucker clean away. No fuss, no muss. Just pulled the gun and BLAM.
But when it's white folks blowing 'immigrants' away, they let 'em surrender? Arrest 'em, n icely.
WTF izzat?
Dannie Baker, another proud card carrying, wing-nut lunatic.
In the past we have tried smoke outs,gas outs,boycotts on sponsors all without much sucsess.I believe however,if we had a set day for a CABLE OUT perhaps the corporate media will get the picture and stop fighting us with their weapons of false information.
We need to show the corporate media that we do not appreciate the hatered falsehoods and debunked lies they continue spew that make victoms out of millions for their own monetary gain.
We should also demand ALL public servants against healthcare for Americans should GIVE THEIRS AND THEIR FAMILIES GOVT.HEALTHCARE UP!After all, it is wasteful government spending,socialism,communism,according to them!
If the Dems won't get more serious about these issues,we must!
Pick a date...any date...lets do this.
Why isn't Lou talking about this its the sort of thing he loves or is he afraid of lawsuits? I want hate speech laws in this country!
yeah, pretty sad. i caught this at vivirlatino.com recently. but you know. its not so important to most people. right?
I'm sick of this refrain. Every serial killer, murderer, and rapist has some friends who say this about said criminal. I'm almost 100% sure this guy was a good "Christian".
When have you ever heard someone say, "Yeah, I totally expected this to happen. He does bad shit to people all the time"?
I knew Dannie Baker as a child. He was a friend of my brothers. He was a really great person when I knew him then. I do remember a few years later when my brother married that he scared my sisters and I too death. He had a mental break down during the wedding. I always heard he had problems with drugs. I really don't know what happened to him after that but I did hear at times about him having mental and drug problems.
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