Open Thread...Palin for President??
h/t to my friends at The Political Carnival with their cartoon of the day. So what do you think about Sister Sarah ever attempting to take a serious run for the presidency? I think the chance is somewhere between slim and none that she even lasts until the first debate. If she does throw her hat in there she'll quit just before that debate is scheduled and blame the media for demonizing her after she's raked in as many campaign contributions as possible from the suckers who don't know any better. Then she'll go back to ClusterFox and tell everyone how the "lamestream media" never gave her a chance so she just had to quit and John Ziegler can make another revisionist history excuse for a "documentary" and pretend he's relevant.
If not Palin, who might be the next GOP candidate for the presidency that would actually have a chance to win their nomination? I'm thinking someone who is on almost no one's radar screen right now, and that's David Petraeus. Your thoughts on that or anything else that has caught your attention today welcomed.
Open thread below...
Brown/Palin 2012 is the best choice for your shadow corporate government. Nothing like 2 clueless puppets to distract the masses.
Of course, since corporations can run now, there's always the Exxon-Mobil/Newscorp ticket.
I have more faith in the population at large to mostly come to their senses. You know fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
Yes, that's why we had Bush Jr. EIGHT years, and Reagan for EIGHT years. Believing in the non-stupidity of the general public and the good heartedness of corporation is what got us into this mess. And will so again.
Over a third of people in the United States do not access broadband at home, and nearly the same percentage "do not use the Internet anywhere," according to a new survey released by the Department of Commerce's National Telecommunications and Information Administration. That's "not anywhere" as in not at home or work—no Facebook, no texting, no tweets, no e-mail, nothing. It's a six percent drop from two years ago, but still a big chunk of America. more
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
40% of us are functionally illiterate. That makes 10% of the people a strange species of online illiterati.
proving that a large chunk of the 70 percent who do use the net, still havent gotten the hang of it
It works just fine for me.
Is it the 21st century yet?
Excerpt from the latest issue of The Slaughterhouse Informer, available by subscription at TBR News. Dig this:
>>The third board member of Facebook is Jim Breyer. He
is a partner in the venture capital firm Accel Partners, who put $12.7m into
Facebook in April 2005. On the board of such US giants as Wal-Mart and Marvel
Entertainment, he is also a former chairman of the National Venture Capital
Association (NVCA). Now these are the people who are really making things happen
in America, because they invest in the new young talent, the Zuckerbergs and the
like. Facebook’s most recent round of funding was led by a company called
Greylock Venture Capital, who put in the sum of $27.5m. One of Greylock’s senior partners is called
Howard Cox, another former chairman of the NVCA, who is also on the board of
In-Q-Tel. What’s In-Q-Tel? Well, believe it or not (and check out their
website), this is the venture-capital wing of the CIA. After
9/11, the US intelligence community became so excited by the possibilities of
new technology and the innovations being made in the private sector, that in
1999 they set up their own venture capital fund, In-Q-Tel, which “identifies and
partners with companies developing cutting-edge technologies to help deliver
these solutions to the Central Intelligence Agency and the broader US
Intelligence Community (IC) to further their
missions”.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Are her fans in for a shock.
Never gonna happen.
Although, they will use her to redirect the attention.
But we shouldn't misunderestimate her.:)
What is your conceptual, continuity?
That cartoon nicely combines a couple of issues. But I'm not sure which is more lame - Palin's "following" or the MSM.
Corporate media wants a star and a woman president. I fully expect them to promote her like a pig with lipstick, but she'll lose and Obama will get his second term fairly easily.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
So what do you think about Sister Sarah ever attempting to take a serious run for the presidency?
For the sake of my mental health, I try not to think about it. But since you asked . . . . ;)
There's only one crowd of people who would really benefit from a Palin Administration: Neo-Conservatives looking for another idiot puppet. They're the only ones who could give you a solid answer to the question, "Why do you want Sarah Palin to be the next president." And whether they give you the honest answer or the dishonest one, it'll scare the hell out of anyone who remembers Barack Obama's illiterate predecessor.
The rest of the folks who want Queen Sarah to ascend to the presidency couldn't tell you why.
Will she run? Of course. She's in this to enrich herself, and if she's not running for president, there won't be any more money coming in. It's the only reason the media has to pay attention to her. It's the only reason anyone would want to publish her "books." If she announced tomorrow that she was definitely bowing out, the money would begin to dwindle.
Does she have a shot? Not really. The neo-cons don't have the kind of control they need over the Republican Party as a whole to make it happen.
But the Republican Party really wants her to run. Not because it actually wants her to win, but because she serves such an important purpose: Keep the angry citizens of Know Knothing Knation angry enough to keep voting Republican. The GOP has a symbiotic relationship with Queen Sarah at the moment. She wants to cash in by pretending to be a serious candidate, and the party gets the votes of her lobotomized supporters.
I wouldn't be surprised if she comes in second or third in the primaries. That way, she'll rally the troops, get a prime time speaking spot at the 2012 convention, and endorse and support the Republican candidate. There will even circulate all sorts of rumors up until then that she's on the short list for VeeP, just to keep stringing along the supporters who will be disillusioned about her primary loss.
Then, she'll disappear for a while. When she's useful again, they'll prop her up again.
In short, Queen Sarah probably ain't gonna be the president. But she's a tool to help the Republicans beat Obama.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
I saw a teabagger on teevee today who wasn't buying her "leadership".
Is it the 21st century yet?
Heh, it's kinda funny. If it turns out that even Know Knothing Knation rejects its Queen, pretty much everything I said goes out the window.
And Know Knothing Knation is fickle. Unless you say everything exactly the way they want it said, they turn on you. Queen Sarah has actually managed to say the wrong thing at times, and endorse the wrong candidate (like the old dweeb who selected her for a running mate).
And it'll be just fine with me if she crashes and burns long before her presidential bid gets off the ground. Sadly, though, it'll be just fine with her too. She just wants to ride this out until the money stops coming in or she's Raptured into the sky, whichever comes first.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
But Karen, I disagree . . . again :)
The biggest beneficiaries of the threat of Sarah Palin are the DLC and the New Democrats.
Name an issue. You can't pick one where Sarah won't go further to the right than logic or even sanity allows.
She's the bogeyman.
You want to fight the New Democrats on habeas corpus? Sarah would be worse. You want to fight on Goldman Sachs? Sarah would be worse. You have a problem with Afghanistan? Sarah would be worse.
Her role is limit the choices to Right or Righter.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
This is a game that's worked for the New Democrats ever since Clinton took office. It isn't working anymore, because it's too obvious that Sarah Palin isn't a serious candidate.
It's actually pretty funny watching Democratic outlets hysterically trying to keep her in the public eye....
"Uh, what about Obama's promise to..."
"Sarah Palin, SARAH PALIN, SARAH PALIN!!!!
Aww, no danger in disagreeing with me. I often disagree with me, and I haven't done anything to me yet. :)
I don't disagree that Sarah Palin serves as an effective greater evil for Democrats today. I just don't think they need her. Take Sarah Palin out of the equation, and the argument that Republicans would still be worse, no matter how bad the Democrats are will still be there.
That argument will die hard, if it dies at all. It has the dubious virtue of being correct. Republicans will always make things worse than they are. I can't think of a single Republican I would actually be okay with if s/he defeated Obama, and I'm not great Obama fan.
The problem you identify is not specific to Sarah Palin. It's the entire bat shit Republican Party.
The real question we really need to face is: At what point does the "lesser evil" argument lose merit even if Republicans are necessarily worse than Democrats. I don't buy that there is no difference between the two parties. But, at what point is it a difference that doesn't make any difference? After all, 80 degrees below zero is a lot worse than 60 degrees below zero, but neither environment is inhabitable in the long run.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
in a contested primary her marginal following will be delivered cheaply, with respect to dollars, and dearly, with respect to principle. She won't be president, but she may help determine who is elected.
This cartoon is NOT (only) making fun of fuckin' palin, but US idiots that do NOTHING but bitch about this stupid female dog....
"hoo-hoo! we'll devote an hour to it"....OR is it 1500000 hours?
Cue the Kabuki....
I just wish the MSM would get a clue and the viewers should just shut off the news and talk shows because they're not news and all propaganda. I can only name a few that are somewhat factual.
She'd be more qualified as the first former half-term governor to host the Home Shopping Network.
They used to ask it about Nixon. (Only, they said "man," of course.)
If Sarah Palin were to host a shopping show, I would not only avoid whatever she were selling like the plague, but I would boycott just about anything associated with those products, and the company who made them. :)
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
walk out halfway through the show.
me-oww!
General Petraeus for president? I wonder what kind of slogan one could come up with for his campaign? Hmmmm...what rhymes with Petraeus?...
Never has so much attention and coverage been given to so few batshit insane people; for the purpose of creating distractions for the very few super rich whose stations they appear on.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
said that there are more than 2 million teabaggers across the country. With only 600 showing up in Nashville, he might be off a bit.
Wasn't that from the Nailin' Palin series of videos that publisher Larry Flint put out? "Sarah does Nashville" or "The Nashville 600" as it's known in certain NASCAR circles.
It might interest you to know that the special edition video for "Sarah does Nashville" costs $500 and comes with a Sarah Palin blow-up doll and a t-shirt that says "I Teabagged Sarah in Nashville 2010" on it. Could be a collectors item.
I ould use a blow up doll but I don't want one that makes as much noise.
It doesn't make that much noise, it just keeps repeating "drill, baby, drill" whenever you squeeze it.
driling with everything I got, I don't need to hear that.
+1
Re: Temp worker thing. The only difference is now they have an excuse(the suckonomy) not to hire permanent workers. Anyway, National Guard soldiers have been waiting for three years for ;post-deployment pay. A contractor covered up, er, omitted, info on a cancer-causing chemical in the tap water @ Camp Lejeune. Americans are bi-partisan when it comes to SCOTUS' pro-corporate politics decision. Anyone wanna be out of work for 2-6 more years? Barry's still talking about last year. Iran calls us war-mongerers, for some reason. Funny that TX and Virginia didn't think the EPA was using tainted data when it was being compiled and submitted by Dubya's cronies. Via an AICN columnist's tweet, amusing Onion article. A revionist take on Huck Finn.
revionist is ;), but to call Samuel Clemens a racist is a bit of a stretch, no?
I think professor dude better just get back to his Ohio hillbilly roots, he seems to be reverting to them.
Temp and part time workers (rather than full time permanent workers who stand to achieve retirement benefits) are not a new concept that surfaced at some point after January 20, 2009.
They have been around for years, about the same time American corporations began outsourcing as much production they could to workers in India, Maylasia, Thailand, etc. where wages and benefits were a fraction of those in the USA.
Perhaps as far back as when Ronald Reagan began the dismantling of Federal protection for American consumers: deregulation.
Sarah is undoubtedly looking at Bayh's 13 million smackaroonies... and all he did was file the paperwork. If she announces, her volunteers will fan out and collect signatures while her campaign chest fills faster than one of Frederick's bras.
She'd probably pull out before the first debate. She always quits if she has to work at something. Remember how scared and ill-prepared she was for her VP debate? However, before then, she'll be treated lavishly and luxuriously by a slobbering press. If McCain got donuts, she'll get flowers.
She might even get another $15,000 custom-made corset. Hey, whatever it takes to make her appear young and perky will be written off as a campaign expense. It is just like adding blood to hamburger so it looks like fresh meat... all marketing.
BTW, where is her corset? The lawyers for the RNC never got the kid's underwear, so I doubt if they retrieved hers.
Since $65,000 from her PAC, which was supposed to help elect conservative candidates, was used instead to buy copies of her book, I'm certain that Sarah will find a creative way to siphon off as much of the campaign funds as possible.
Of course she'll run. But just like that 5k charity race, she'll enter with fanfare and leave before breaking a sweat. ptui!
Her lawyer, the sleazy Thomas Van Flein, just told the tabloid website TMZ (which doubtless paid Palin for the information) that he's issued subpoenas today to CNN, Playgirl, Entertainment Tonight, The Insider, Star Magazine, and National Enquirer, asking for hard figures on how much they paid Levi Johnston.
This is in regards to the custody case for the child fathered by Levi and the child's mother, Bristol Palin -- who evidently shares Van Flein's legal services with her mother.
Levi has claimed that he made no more than $10,000 a year prior to 2009. But in new documents filed, Palin's lawyer attached Levi's pay stub from 2008, showing Levi earned $18,594.50 from a construction job alone.
The sleazy part? That's the GROSS INCOME from that job. The NET was $11,771.34 -- pretty close to Johnston's original claim. And it's not like this 19 year old kid has years and years of wages behind him. He dropped out of high school and was home-schooled for part of 2007 (when he was 16-17) and 2008 (age 17-18) until that fateful attendance with the Palins at the RNC in September 2008.
Meanwhile, Bristol Palin is spending her tabloid money on a little plastic surgery, just like her mother -- as evidenced by the picture of her on the TMZ site.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/18/bristol-palin-l...
Bachmann / Palin , now there's a winning ticket .
Is that a prediction, Kreskin?
Is that the Stupid/crazy or Crazy/stupid ticket?
(well either way I guess)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
A false flag or two under the guise of domestic terra would certainly pave the way for the General.
Unrelated question of the day from Cannukistan.
Is David Frum a war criminal and why does the CBC's golden boy have the rock hard man love for him?
It is amazing isn't it? A whopping 600 people show up, and you'd think it's the event of the season. Our media doesn't report the news, they help create it. I don't think Sarah Palin could handle the heat of running for president. A presidential candidate can't run from the media forever. At some point she'll have to answer some serious questions.
With Diebold machines anything is doable.
Who would have thought America would elect a dumb SOB with Alzheimer's like Ronald Reagan -- twice. If you can sincerely fake being "real people", America is your bitch.
I would wager that either of the Bush twins are more likely to be elected president before Palin.
They both have more executive experience and both have spent more time on the hill than Palin.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
"Still even the "progressive" news shows can't stop talking about her"
Or the progressive blogs. Click the "Sarah Palin" tag and there are 32 pages of postings about her on this blog alone.
At what point does this (Palin) become off-limits?
She is the politcal equivalent of William Hung or the Elephant Man....we
tune in for the entertainment of this farcical sideshow train wreck.
We're waiting for the next utter humiliation. There doesn't appear to be
any shame with her, as her sociopathic ego surrounds itself with an
insulated echo chamber of righteous woo.
She hangs on....and on.....and on.
One would THINK that she'd be through after the first debate, but did
you really think LAPEL PINS were going to be a pivotal issue in the
first debate last time around?
It goes without saying that I have little faith in the intelligence of
the American voter
Vote for Palin….
Aw, HELLS TO THE NAWS,
I am opposed to every single cause and belief she has. She was a disaster for VP never mind president.
And the list is wayyyy to long to post on why I would not vote for her.
http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2009...
The outrage over the cartoon makes me sick, . She is doing this solely for the money, and the attention, and she doesn’t fool any of us. She uses that poor baby to put her self on the hysterical diva spotlight.
She thrusts her kids onto the national stage then comes off with the the fake outrage. It`s disgusting. What a overly-ambitious/lying/self absorbed/ insane mother. I feel sorry for the kids. Shame on the fake news media for giving this any attention.
She’s a grandma 46 years old -a bit old for these shenanigans-but there it is.
She has been selling fear/lies/hate to the dupes for forever. It’s all about the $$$$$
http://images.nextnewnetworks.com/3b8582d08c7...
Will anyone vote for her for Pres??
“There's a sucker born every minute”. P.T. Barnum
LuLu
Caribou Barbie is a pathological liar who loves America so much, she wants her state to secede from it. She helps TeaGaggers sow racism, ignorance, violence and sedition. She and her "fans" are traitors. The memorable quote fron Nashville's TeaGagCON was, "We're not shooting anybody. At least not yet."
They want a civil war. Don't say you weren't warned.
Threatening to shoot people fits the definition of "terrorizing."
The Repugnants if nothing else are persistant.They will say or do anything for the agenda of mass destruction ! I do believe they will produce a candidate who will look and speak like no one in the GOP, In other words a Charming,Articulate,Good looking Politician.Someone who is the complete opposite of the average Republican.They would stoop to anything to fool us.So Beware of the sheep in wolves clothing.
No, it will be "Palin/Bachmann 2012." Matters like competence and sanity are irrelevant to at least 30% of the public. But that's 80% of the GOP.
You got it right! Palin's never been able to take any responsibility for anything but always blames everyone else for her own problems and faults. (Did you notice how she even dissed the Tea Baggers by chiding them for not siding with one party or another?) She has what the psychiatric profession calls a persecution complex. I can flat out guarantee you that if presidential candidates had to undergo mental examinations for fitness to run, she would flat out fail. Besides that, it is going to come out soon that she's having a secret affair with Evan Bayh.
"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez
Stupidity nails, that is, committed by Sarah Palin to nail her coffin firmly shut, and this is the latest.
Remember the fake screed by her daughter Bristol on Palin's Facebook page, included in Palin's own denouncement of the "Family Guy" episode recently? That episode featured a DS teenage girl on a date with one of the FG regulars, and there being a throwaway line by the girl saying "My mother was the former Governor of Alaska".
Palin went into full "victim" mode suggesting that the "Family Guy" episode was making fun of 2 year old Trig Palin, a boy, obviously 'way too young to date (but, maybe in Alaska...).
Anyway, in an exclusive only to Palingates.blogspot.com news comes that the actress who did the voiceover of the DS teenager on the program sent an e-mail "Letter to the Editor" of the New York Times (the exclusive is that Palingates has the complete text of the letter -- the NYT failed to print the final sentence, which is telling in itself).
Here's the letter: My name is Andrea Fay Friedman. I was born with Down syndrome. I played the role of Ellen on the "Extra Large Medium" episode of Family Guy that was broadcast on Valentine's day. Although they gave me red hair on the show, I am really a blonde. I also wore a red wig for my role in " Smudge" but I was a blonde in "Life Goes On". I guess former Governor Palin does not have a sense of humor. I thought the line "I am the daughter of the former governor of Alaska" was very funny. I think the word is "sarcasm".
In my family we think laughing is good. My parents raised me to have a sense of humor and to live a normal life. My mother did not carry me around under her arm like a loaf of French bread the way former Governor Palin carries her son Trig around looking for sympathy and votes.
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