You can always count on Congress to do the wrong thing when conservative hissy fits come into play, but at least a judge saw the light.
A Brooklyn judge Friday delayed enforcement of a new federal law that cut off funding to the controversial community organization ACORN.
Judge Nina Gershon said the government violated ACORN's right to due process before enacting a law that threatened to financially destroy the organization.
"The question here is only whether the Constitution allows Congress to declare that a single, named organization is barred from all federal funding in the absence of a trial," Gershon wrote in a 21-page decision.
She said ACORN had proved it would suffer "irreparable harm" if the money was cut off.
ACORN lawyers expect the feds to open the purse strings soon. The Justice Department said the decision is under review.
Here's the pdf of the ruling.
On another matter, ColorofChange threatened to sue the defamatory website that was started to defend "phony tears" Glenn Beck because they used false information supplied by extremist sites like NewsMax. DefendGlenn was forced to post an apology on their website stating that they used patently false information -- lies, basically, to attack their opponents.
After ColorOfChange.org took on Glenn Beck for his race-baiting and fear-mongering, Beck's supporters fought back using lies, distortions, and more race-baiting to defend him. DefendGlenn.com was the worst, mounting a campaign to scare advertisers into staying on his show.
After we threatened them with a lawsuit, DefendGlenn.com has backpedalled. It should make clear to advertisers who have pulled their support that they've done the right thing...read on
Conservatives will say and do anything to smear and destroy a contrary belief. It's right out the Nixon "dirty tricks" book club.
Take a look at a screen grab of their apology below to Color of Change.
the new inmates running the asylum can't even get their talking points right.
White House economic advisor Larry Summers is expecting 'job growth by Spring'. White House economic advisor Christina Romer says "of course the recession isn't over".
No evet Summers was addressing people who have money, Romer was talking about people that don't. Their talking points were spot on.
Lounge Lizards
Talking points are soundbites/pieces of rhetoric that are recited consistently across members of a party or administration. The differences in opinion of these two implies that one or both are not working off talking points. While your assertion is most certainly spurious it lacks that certain 'je ne sais quoi' to make it specious.
and continue to demand a return to the never ending orgy of credit card spending and real estate flipping used to be accustomed to.
Quite a nifty Straw Man you built there!
Not sure what your point was. I saw both interviewers and both economic advisors were exactly right. I think Romer was talking about the softer definition of recession or more like economic downturn. She was focused on job growth, which we are not seeing yet.
However, the country is out of a recession. We had postive 2.9% GDP growth. Positive growth, by the technical definition of a recession, means that it is over. Recession is defined as two consistent quarters of negative GDP growth.
Nothing wrong with what Summers said. Most economists are expecting job growth by the spring of 2010. That does not contradict Romer at all.
We only lost 11,00 jobs last month versus 700,000 a month a year ago. We could get to positive job growth anytime.
Recession = job losses. Return to growth = job gains, but they lag the return to growth. The real question is how much job growth and over what period of time?
No matter what - fingers crossed for positive job numbers and sustained growth.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Which will happen, but only until the next "downturn" or "correction". We need to fix the disease, not the symptoms...
Well - I should have added
UNTIL the next bubble.
I hope there is never ever another bubble but I wouldn't bet against it.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
The Next Bubble
me-oww!
on the ACORN issues but can not get the Healthcare issue right or in a timely manner!
Outrage is small but should be louder! This should be roar at the Idiots..call them 1.800.828.0498
will do anything to keep minorities down, whether it's penalizing organizations that support them politically, or stalling about enacting healthcare to help them physically. These "lawmakers" make me sick. However, it's nice to see the judiciary rightly acted on this illegal "bill of attainder!" Thank you, Judge!
...I believe they like to be called "Republicans."
It's nice to wake up to a dose of good news.
Nixon was a rank amature compared to these freaks
Small victories are better than no victories.
Hoorah!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Now, if we could only get a similar ruling against Fox News, they could do nothing but play retractions for the next year or so, more if they had to repeat them...
I wouldn't stop at Fox Spews - there is a pack of lying liars out there. To me I think just about anybody calling themselves a journalist or reporter on M$M outlets is a liar. The only reason they call themselves anything is because it is in the script.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I wish TV showed the viewer the Teleprompters. Whenever a teleprompter is being used it should pop up on the lower part of the screen - for full disclosure is all. That might smarten up a lot of people that are acting foolish right now thanks to TV!
Think about it. Those people are starring at a glass window and reciting propaganda, while viewers imagine they are talking directly to them in their very own living rooms. It's a grand illusion.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
From the retraction:
"...upon review it appears that the acusation of lying was inaccurate."
Translate:
"We got caught lying."
Today's secret term, boys and girls, is "Far Left Loons." And we all know what to do when we hear today's secret term, don't we?
"Trust no one, Mr. Mulder." - Well-Manicured Man
Far Left Loon with Falafel and Loofah. Don't try saying "Lotsa Far Left Loons Love Loofah for Falafel" over and over real fast.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
.
Fighting back works.
defendglenn.com.....
They seem to have a "bandwidth limit exceeded error 509" now.
How convenient....
It was set up on a $9.95 a month thing
lol
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Amatuer or fiscally responsible?
is intended to be a factual statement
Depends - is it under or over budget?
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Yes, I'll bet they'd rather be offline than be forced to display the retraction.I'm guessing they emerge in 7 weeks
allowed this law to go through anyway?
Aren't the Dems the "Party of the People"?
they are the bone tossers for Wall Street and Big Corporations.
half of them voted for it.
is intended to be a factual statement
Even Kucinich voted for it. I sent a scathing email to his office over this.
I had to explain Bill of Attainder to a co worker today and so we went to wikipedia. Reading about it reminds me of pre revolutionary america.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
These organizations should not be afraid to fight back twice as hard.
"They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue"
These organizations also should not forget they are in a war. No time for pussy footing around here. Acorn lost the first battle, with the video entrapment allocagations of helping a prostitute etc., but they need to fight back. They need to be smart to win the next battles. No time to be nieve when fighting right-wing nuts and their corporate sponsors.
Some interesting stats . . .
Relative to the general internet population how popular is defendglenn.com with each audience below?
(Chart HERE)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
This is a surprise how?
And I'm sure becky's a master baiter.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Well, I'd have to admit I aspire to "master" status under the same heading.
*blush*
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
... see how real grassroot movements with backbone work? Believe in your cause, stand up for your cause and most importantly, FIGHT for your cause.
Maybe you leadred the wrong lessons while you were a community organizer in Chicago.
don't get government grants.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Really real grass movements are funded by big corporations and run by Dick Armey.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
are free range cowpies.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Unless you think that lower utility bills are political. ACORN also advocates for fair lending practices, for survivors of hurricanes Ike and Katrina, for a living wage and paid sick leave.
These aren't the programs that Republicans bitch about though. That would be voter registration drives. And even those are non-partisan...Unless the Republicans don't want people registered to vote.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
... that one mayor in Tennessee who believes the world would be a better place if dem uppity blacks couldn't own property.
One Mayor doesn't want blacks to own property? Only one? Once upon a time all Mayors in Tennessee thought blacks should be property. Preferably their own.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
an oprganization dependent upon government funding. That implies neither praise or criticism.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
And the GOP is all about voter registration suppression because they know that most of the voters registered in this channel won't vote Republican.
And I am really pissed off at all the dumb ass Democrats that were stampeded into voting to cut off their funding without good cause.
Every one of these weakling cowards that voted for this bill ought to personally and publically apologize to ACORN for their political cowardice.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
vote since they keep voting for the wrong party, the Democrats.
'Conservatives will say and do anything to smear and destroy a contrary belief.' Certainly not liberals!
IF you call using facts for the argument instead of lies like the right uses, then yes.
is intended to be a factual statement
...is that apology has to remain on their home page for SEVEN WEEKS.
They can run garbage underneath it, but the top front of their webpage for the next two months is the apology.
From the "knew this was coming" file:
GOP Lawyers Slam Ruling On ACORN Funding
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
ETHIOLIB above said Obama should learn from ACORN. This group you link to says his Justice Dept. is secretly in cahoots with them.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
TPM quoted the spokesman for the Republican National Lawyers Association, who said:
feck·less (fkls)
adj.
1. Lacking purpose or vitality; feeble or ineffective.
2. Careless and irresponsible.
Your deep commitment to playing the role of devil's advocate has caused your brain to atrophy, ricky.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Or sombody failing to include the next two lines from the RNLA:
"The Republican National Lawyers Association will continue to call out the illegal activities of ACORN until every dime of taxpayer funding has dried up. ACORN may have all the Obama 'powers that be' protecting it from being held to account and Democrat lawmakers in their back pocket,"
It can't be the latter can it? That would be fecklessed up.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
To which "them" are you referring? Clarity, man!
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Given the number of Republicans that have already been caught breaking the law, not to mention the ones that need help in covering up what else they're all doing, I'd imagine the Republican National Lawyers Association should have a lot more to worry about than ACORN.
I would have been OK if the law they passed stated that ANYONE who has defrauded the American Govt. would no longer be eligible for federal contracts......that "may" have included ACORN, but damn sure would have included Halliburton.....but no.....Halliburton owns too many congresspeople
all it takes is all of us
That would make sense... The fact that there would need to be a law stating anyone who has defrauded the government would no longer be eligible is amazing. That they need one and don't have it is just proof that defrauding taxpayers is the rule - not the exception.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
is to see Glenn Beck, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Gibson, Malkin, Coulter, Levin, etc etc etc lose their shows and end up living in cardboard boxes and dumpsters, having no health insurance, no income, no food, and best of all, no audience. Can Santa make that happen?
Too bad Schoolhouse Rock is not still around
They could do a reworded version of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNo
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
There is justice!! Hit the hate monquering Reslugs in the balls.
Color of Change, why "threaten" a lawsuit? Why not just file the lawsuit? When are we gonna learn to just hit these fucking teabaggin insaniacs and hit them hard?
The democrats knew this would be thrown out and Acorn would keep there funding. They never should have put ACORN in that position to begin with. This also rings true for many things I see in the healthcare bills. They could be banking on the mandate being thrown, and the violation of state regulations being thrown out. But you see they never should put we the people in that position to begin with. They should stand up for we the people instead of relaying on the court to clean up there compromised mess .
I ♥ NY
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Who dat sat dey gonna beat them Saints?
It's a brand new day!
12/15/09 at 5:44AM PT
and guess what? The site supposed to be doing the apology is still not up....
who wants to bet money IT'LL NEVER COME BACK UP AGAIN.....
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