Amanda Carpenter obviously doesn't understand the meaning of the word "News"
By John Amato Tuesday Apr 21, 2009 2:00pmI pity Amanda Carpenter because it seems like the appearances on Bill O'Reilly's show are really affecting her, and that's too bad. She's a conservative and I'm a liberal, but I think we can both agree that the news is the news and her response to a segment on Reliable Sources was really a justification for the behavior of Fox during the teabagging parties.
SESNO: Because that's not our job. Our job is not to use our podium and our platform and our television camera to tell people what they should be thinking and doing. Our job should be to tell them what's happening out there and then they decide what to do.
KURTZ: You disagree with that?
CARPENTER: You know, this is -- I disagree with using words like "fascism" on the Fox Business Network, but we are entering a period, I think Ana Marie would agree -- I mean, we both cover things, we both have perspectives. I think this is becoming more acceptable in journalism as long as you're up front about it first.
No, it's never acceptable to do this. Never, ever. Journalists can have a point of view, but not when they are reporting on events. You can't say that Iraq is going to bomb us just because you want that war to take place, no matter what the evidence suggests. And then masquerading as a news entity is the worst form of deceit there is, especially when they turn into a propaganda enterprise. It is acceptable if you don't have the word "News" in your network.
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I think it is clear, journalism is dead. Reporting doesn't exist, it's all with a certain "perspective" as Carpenter so eloquently puts it. Associated Press is a joke now and that is what journalism professors use as a reference guide!
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If any report comes out from a national journalist, its words get twisted into so many ways that it's hard to see the article in a neutral light. It's tug-of-war with words and concepts.
However, I do think that local journalism is the only level that can achieve that perspective right now, although there are times that even that gets corrupted (read: Boston Herald vs. Boston Globe).
If any report comes out from a national journalist, its words get twisted into so many ways that it's hard to see the article in a neutral light. It's tug-of-war with words and concepts.
However, I do think that local journalism is the only level that can achieve that perspective right now, although there are times that even that gets corrupted (read: Boston Herald vs. Boston Globe).
... is a reference on capitalization and usage. It does not cover the 'brave new world' of BIAS that Amanda Carpenter seems to think is all the rage right now.
"Journalists can have a point of view, but not when they are reporting on events"
Funny post especially when you champion this "reporting"
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/cnns-roe...
If Roesgen had said, "I don't think he's a facist", then you would be right. But she didn't, she asked him "Why do you think he's a facist?" not only once, but twice. He didn't have an answer other than "because I say so". She uncovered him for the fraud that he is.
...an example of that "let's ask the man on the street" kind of reporting? She didn't FORCE him to be ignorant: she only gave him the opportunity to state his position.
Maybe Moose didn't approve of her, perhaps, aggressive style, but that's a matter of personal opinion. The substance of the question and brief interview is what matters.
She asked him a question and then asked him why he thought that way. What's your problem with that?
The CNN reporter didn't need to rile up that ignorant mob. That was a bunch of hostile, angry, dumb, confused people mad at Obama for being President and giving them more money on their pay checks(well at least the few who had enough brain cells to hold a job.). You and Amanda would have fit right in.
I don't have your perspective since I wasn't there, but it didn't look like it would have taken much to rile them up. Not even trying to be judgmental. I've been to demonstrations and it wouldn't have taken much to rile ME up. I mean, that's sort of the point: get riled, get active, get to th' demonstration.
The main thing about FOX's teabagging event was it was propaganda organized by a cable news network. FOX was the main promoter and advertiser for the Teabagging love in.
Just asking.
So if you begin your report by saying, I work for fox news so of course I am going to take a far right point of view, whatever you say after that is okay?
If you begin the report by saying that you're just simply going to be reading the fax you got from the RNC 15 mins earlier ...
It is sad state of affairs that I would actually find that refreshing.
...she's dumb with a very nasty disposition. I think she might be meaner than Andy Coulter.
"It is acceptable if you don't have the word 'News' in your network."
"Fox" cancels out the "News" so it's okay (in Amanda's world).
when you had someone on a newscast speak their own views on a topic, we had to put up the word "Commentary" or "Editorial" or the like. I don't know if was required or just accepted practice. But those days seem to be gone. This wasn't for people within a story, it was for the people that sat at the desk and espouse their view.
I've been in the news biz for 22 years. When we started, one of our staff members was an 'elder statesman' kind of journalist, who had a once-a-week commentary. And I grew up with notables like Uncle Walter ... 'that's the way it is,' he would tell you, and you felt confident you were getting an objective view.
Now, we don't have that. We have 'experts,' and 'analysts' to tell us What It All Means.
But I was one of the people that had to slap up "Commentary", it was usually just for the consumer reports guy, but had to have it ready whenever an anchor/reporter went off on a toot. I've since been forced out. The standards and practices I learned in school and at work just are not used anymore.
Well, Amanda is a long standing mouthpiece for the Republican party, but I have to agree that her connection with O'Reilly has gotten to her. After all, O'Reilly still refers to himself as a "journalist". But
with the demise of newspapers and magazines, expect everyone with a TV show (or blog site) to consider themselves "journalists". When language is dumbed-down, standards that go with it suffer the same state. And we wind up with meaningless words being used 24/7 as if they had real meaning.
What mental or whore houses do they get these Faux noise Bimbo's from?
There is unbiased news reporting and there is editorializing. Unfortunately, we don't have enough of the first and we have far too much of the second. Our networks are a disgrace and a total disservice to the public they have been entrusted to inform.
It is absolutely no different than the CNN reporter giving her opinion as fact at the demonstrations. Or when she said GW Bush was Hitler. She basically in two "investigations" showed she was nothing more than a partisan hack. And yes there should be none of that crap when you are to be reporting an event. Asking questions my butt. She wasn't asking anything. She was being an antagonizing b*tch. No diff than Bill O's hitsquad reporting.
She was asking a question numbnut. I've tried...but your idiocy just led you to the ignore function...god life will be peaceful onhere if everyone did the same to you.
different interviews than the ones that I saw. If there are different interviews that show her "just asking questions" numbnut, then please do post a link. Oh and by the way, stop calling yourself liberal-anything. You pretend liberal progressives are starting to piss off the real ones in the world. Go hang at Redstate with the other sheeps. The actions of some of you fakers on here since the election, is beyond cultish. I now see why the Republicans get so many votes.
I still can't get a good answer on this:
I thought that when addressing a person, one separates the statement from proper noun with comma.
Thus:
"She was asking a question, numbnut."
"If there are different interviews that show her "just asking questions", numbnut..."
I see it all the time, in lots of media, but BOTH ways. With or without a comma. I really don't know.
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I wonder, as well, what it would be like to have one numb nut. I mean, two numbed nuts would be distressing, for sure, but if I only have one numb nut, do I see a doctor or wait for it to pass?
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Yeah, I do think that her appearances on BillO's show has affected her. I think she was caught between a rock and a hard place on Howie's show Sunday. I really think she knows that Faux News was in the wrong on this tea party stuff, but, no, she couldn't bring herself to say that. So she said the crap she did....she kind of looked uncomfortable saying that when I watched her.
PBS' show To the Contrary, I think Amanda is one of the dumbest... Although I think Tara (not Tara Wall, I'm talking about the chubby Tara) takes the cake of idiocy...
IN HELL!
The last shrill words out of his forsaken anti-Christ mouth. Amazing!
Tryin' not to cuss except for ...
It's not acceptable and FOX is not up front about it. They claim to be "fair and balanced". How is that being up front about pushing one point of view?
This whole story and the responses reminded me how much I'm really tiring of all the superficial crap we all get all the time. Even here on Crooks and Liars and on Olberman and Maddow, etc.
ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING written on any news network or major newspaper or magazine is concentrating on superficial topics that spring from a faulty basic premise and loads of lies. Discussing and critiquing them is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Who CARES whether this person or that on Fox or any other network (including MSNBC) is fascist or Republican or right or left. They're all lying because they're discussing things that don't get to the bottom of the real problem. They rail against or defend torture when this country has been using foul methods, lies, torture and invasion from almost the beginning to get what it wants. We've made the lives of Vietnamese, Cambodians, Iraqis Central Americans, Eastern Europeans/Balkans and on and on miserable, all the while trumpeting our cries of "freedom" from the "greatest country on earth".
The background story on Somali pirates has never been on the mainstream stations/print media or, if it was, it was seen late Sunday night or on the editorial page. Otoh, the poor 15 year old sap pirate who got captured will be made into a monster and vilified as a thug. No big headlines about how we're making his continent into a poverty-stricken sewage dump.
Sorry, ranting seems to be on my mind this afternoon.
We should all be screaming from the rooftops
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