Andrew Breitbart tries to whip up the right wing bloggers into a frenzy over his new conspiracy theory about "comments" put by liberals on right-wing blogs which appears in the Moonie Times. This meme is on Memeorandum and is so laughable that I spit out my coffee:
A digital war has broken out, and the conservative movement is losing. Read the comment sections of right-leaning blogs, news sites and social forums, and the evidence is there in ugly abundance. Internet hooligans are spewing their talking points to thwart the dissent of the newly-out-of-power.
We must not let that go unanswered.
Uninvited Democratic activists are on a mission to demoralize the enemy - us. They want to ensure that President Obama is not subject to the same coordinated, facts-be-damned, multimedia takedown they employed over eight long years to destroy the presidency - and the humanity - of George W. Bush.
OK, Andrew. The beginning to your article is as ridiculous as the propaganda that you put forth. First of all, President Bush destroyed his own administration and the GOP. I don't think I need to list what he's done to this country and to the world that led to his own demise and turned the leadership of the GOP into Rush Limbaugh's hands. He lied to the American people to start a war in Iraq, if you've forgotten. All without our help. We just happened to notice -- unlike, say, you.
Breitbart then goes on to say this:
So now that the right is vanquished and thoroughly out of power, why doesn't it learn from its conquerors and employ similar tactics? The answer is obvious. The right, for the most part, embraces basic Judeo-Christian ideals and would not promote nor defend the propaganda techniques that were perfected in godless communist and socialist regimes. The current political and media environment crafted by supposedly idealistic Mr. Obama resembles Hugo Chavez's Venezuela more than John F. Kennedy's America.
Ahhh, conservatives don't act like trolls because of GOD. This is indeed a revelation. However, I'm afraid Karl Rove missed the sermon. Maybe he can ask David Vitter about his behavior, since he's supposedly a good, diaper-wearing Christian man. Anyway, if what Breitbart is saying is true, then John McCain has a lot to answer for.
Why didn't Andrew complain when McCain's website targeted C&L and asked McCain supporters to come here and try to disrupt my site?
Here is John McCain, the GOP's hope for the presidency asking his followers to attack C&L and then awarding points for the people who do it the most times. McCain's camp not only attacked liberal blogs, but he was begging them to do it. Or was it a failing of his Judeo-Christian ideals? Where's the outrage, you hypocrite?
I wouldn't be surprised if this story is picked up by the media. Conservative whining is always acceptable and comfortable to the Villagers.
And just to help you understand blogs and how they function, people are not invited to leave comments on a particular site. For the most part readers come to a site and leave a comment if they so choose.
It's always been very open from the liberal side. A few blogs didn't offer comments, but on the whole it's been wide open. So Andrew's notion of commenting is false too. Typically, it has been right-wing blogs who either didn't use comments, or "invited" people on to comment. For years, left-wing blogs have been attacked by right wingers because we all operated openly, and many of us used "haloscan," a very easy and inexpensive way to allow people to comment on our sites, but I was forced to stop using it when right-wing haters started a coordinated effort to destroy C&L's comment section with racism.
It was out of that fight that I joined up with a number of the folks who make up the C&L team; others have volunteered to become site monitors on C&L and are heroes too because they help try to clamp down on the madness that emanated from the right. And it was the right wingers and the media who started to try and promote the phony meme that when anonymous opinions are left on our comment sections, these comments somehow represented us.
Larger right-wing blogs like Instapundit aka Glenn Reynolds never even allowed public comments, and Michelle Malkin very recently -- on occasion -- resumed letting a select few contributors post comments on her site after they have been thoroughly vetted. Little Green Footballs only allows people to post comments after they have registered, but has a fixed number of readers that can join up.
Will Andrew ask John McCain to apologize to C&L? Will Breitbart apologize to C&L? Will monkeys fly out
No More Mister Nice Blog has some thoughts about Drudge's significant other on this very topic.
They really live in alternate universe, don't they?
it's like their holding elections for Mayor of Crazytown...and their trying to outcrazy one another.
It's actually pretty funny!! LOL!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Breitbart sounds like Beer-Fart. Think about it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvZdVK913I
Skip ahead to 2:40
I remember well when McCain "advertised" liberal blogs on his site, encouraging his right wing followers to send messages. Seems to me I saw an increase in the number of trolls on C&L and other sites at the time.
This past weekend, I saw Breitbart on that Red Eye show. They were having a discussion on expensive, fancy cars and attractive women driving them.
Breitbart said something to the effect that in the 1980s, he saw Nicole Simpson driving around in such a car.
That idiot Greg Gutfeld made some comment about, "maybe you should have picked her up.....then maybe she would still be alive today"...all the while with a dumb ass grin on his face.
Oh, how I would absolutely love to get on right wing sites, such as Michelle Malkin's or Ann Coulter's....but I just know that these haters would publish my own contact information and encourage their followers to send me hate emails.
It was fun joining in on teasing them till they ran off, never to return. It usually was patently obvious who sent them.
I do believe these folks are living in an alternate reality. It's the only way I can explain it.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
far left loon >.<
Which of their execrable tactics haven't they yet blamed on us? Perhaps they'll give up on trying to rewrite shrub's history and just start saying "the radical leftist democrat Bush caused this depression and these wars."
Before Obama was even inaugurated, the far right was saying Bush wasn't a Conservative, and that no one in the GOP ever liked him or supported anything he did while President. Either Daily Show or Colbert showed a clip from the conservative convention last month where speaker after speaker was saying that no one ever liked Bush and he wasn't a True Republican and they cut that to last year's convention with Bush onstage and the whole room chanting 'Four More Years'!
They don't live in an alternative reality. They are masters of DoubleThink: holding two opposite ideas in mind at the same time and fervently believing in both simultaneously.
I can't handle reading the emptiness of the "rights" words, no substance, no grit, no meat, nothing to sink my hungry mind into, lol.
Go on some right wing nut site and leave a comment claiming that President Obama's ranch in Texas is a fake. See what they say.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Uh, does anyone recall a little bit of cabaret called "Operation Chaos"? Right, so it was okay to encourage Republicans to re-register as Dems, and vote for Hillary to try to block Obama. IMO, that bordered on illegal.
But now they're whinging because a few Dems/Libs allegedly post on RepCon blogs? Oh the humanity!!! Next up, Beck rips his eyes out in protest.
in Ohio, but there is no practical way to enforce the law.
I posted twice on Redstate.com, got banned immediately. I did not use any profanity, nothing but questioning certain logic and wham, gone in two posts. Then, I went to Amazon to look at Levin's new book and comment on it. Well, they are freaking out over there too. Not Amazon but the readers. They are scaring themselves into a tizzy that a couple liberals would invade their domain. They are scared to death of ideas that run counter to their own biased notions.
I got banned Nov. 5th just for repeating "President Obama." Red State has a very short fuse.
and they have a right to allow or disallow whom they choose. You may think you were being reasonable for not using profanity, but you may have come across all smart assy...
me-oww!
Because I knew Conservatives would have mercilessly invaded Liberal sites had they won. Many Conservatives are simply not honest. Both sides practice what can be interpreted as trolling.
Conservatives by definition can not be honest or respectful. If any one show any honesty or is respectful to anyone, they can not be conservatives.
I remember when the 'Liberal Bias' myth was invented. Liberal Bias in journalism was originally defined as any news story that contained background and context.
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I, too, was banned from a far-right extremist website, simply for trying to have an honest discussion. Not only was I banned, but every single post I ever made was deleted. It was weird to see a comment thread when one of the four participants was missing. My words had been quoted by others, but the post they had quoted from was 'disappeared'.
Republicans and Conservatives can not have an open and honest conversation.
the service of antifascism. First, we're actually smarter. Second, the wingnut mental operating system doesn't perceive opposing facts or concepts without freezing up or melting down. If you can't persuade them with sense, you can make them fundamentally uncomfortable in defense of their concepts. The facts won't get through, but the discomfort will, and they'll likely remember it and be more reluctant to claim themselves right in polite company. It's Pavlovian. I don't enjoy it, but it works.
this is the guy who made a recent bill maher show the worst i've ever seen...
such a contemptuous paranoid projection filled creepy chump...
John,
During the election I tried to leave comments on several right-wing blogs, Malkin for one, and was told by at least 3 such blogs that (1) only registered users could comment, and (2) registration was CLOSED!
And of course, to comment on O'Reilly's site, you used to have to pay a fee first.
That's why I send BillO emails directly to make comments about his show....don't have to pay to do that!
Last summer, I spent a few days putting comments on the Powerline blog....surprisingly, they didn't threaten to kick me out....but I did see someone threatening to kick out someone referring to the Christian nutcases on that site!
Wow. This explains that perennially contrary troll Dennis. And I thought that clown was the kind of person who put his hand in a fire simply because no one else would.
Sure! Rats always assume that everyone else thinks like a rat. There's a reason right-wingers like Dick Cheney are so paranoid.
Also: " ... why doesn't it learn from its conquerors and employ similar tactics? ... The right, for the most part, embraces basic Judeo-Christian ideals ..." Gee, is that why so many of your guys have extra-marital affairs?
"So now that the right is vanquished and thoroughly out of power, why doesn't it learn from its conquerors and employ similar tactics? The answer is obvious. The right, for the most part, embraces basic Judeo-Christian ideals and would not promote nor defend the propaganda techniques that were perfected in godless communist and socialist regimes."
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ya I always thought it was pretty rad how sexist, homophobic, racist bigots like to wake up really early every Sunday morning, put on fancy dress clothes assembled by children in 3rd world sweatshops, and put on jewelry mined by children in 3rd world gold & diamond mines ...
then they eat a big breakfast, then climb into their humongous islamic-fuel-consuming SUV, and drive past a bunch of homeless people and poor people living in trailer parks and prisons ...
so they can sit in comfy benches in a multi-million dollar cathedral and pat each other on the back for living just the way Jesus Christ lived.
I always thought that was pretty rad. =)
Who the hell dresses up for church any more?
Stuff like this is why my Mom never had much use for religion.
This meme is on Memeorandum and is so laughable that I spit out my coffee:
___________________________________________________________
Maybe you drink bad coffee...
Start buying Starbucks not Tarbucks (7-11).
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Thy Peets Coffee: its teh best. My favorite Arabian Mocha Sunnani.
Starbucks is the very definition of Bad Coffee! And they are evil, too, the Wal-Mart of coffees (in terms of evil business practices).
Blart is another delusional wingnut. Writing for the house organ of a Korean cult isn't much to build your house of cool on dude.
Operation KAOS?
Can we have this guy in charge?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2YUQMWW_jM
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"The right, for the most part, embraces basic Judeo-Christian ideals and would not promote nor defend the propaganda techniques that were perfected in godless communist and socialist regimes."
Jesus T-Rex Riding Christ On The PTL Network. These motherfuckers really now how to take the cake (and every thing else that's not nailed down). Have any of these clowns ever read the defining piece of the Christian faith called The Sermon On The Mount? I am not a member of any religious faith but even my heretic ass knows whats in that sermon. It's as if they read it on opposite day and then just ran with it. Every thing they do and stand for perfectly contradicts that good hearted speech made by God's boy. These screw heads make you want to believe in Hell.
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
"Have any of these clowns ever read the defining piece of the Christian faith called The Sermon On The Mount?"
No, they have not. If you ever go into one of those Smegma-Churches, you will notice that their bibles have never been opened to the Sermon.
can suck my libural ass!
Barfart is another troll, logging on to sites like this and leaving his droppings for us to clean up.
The Internet is mostly full of progressives, so not surprising they dominate the websites of even the right wing nuts.
I can tell you that any one with progress ideas is almost always banned from commenting at these right-wing or anti-obama sites. They do not care about the facts, only in trying to smear Obama.
I regularly visit
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/about-the-au...
which is the mostly right-wing/anti-obama site run by Larry Johnson, the ex-CIA guy, who use to blog at Daily Kos until he had a following out. Now it is his mission and his sites mission to try and slime/smear Obama. This is the guy who said that he would reveal the "whitey tapes" (supposively a taped message of Michelle Obama using the term whitey) during the campaign, but in the end had nothing. Johnson is a little more than your average nut-ball, as he is regularly featured on the MSM like CNN for his international security expertise.
You can go on his site and if yo do not toe the party line or their narratives you will eventually be banned for the slightest reason. If you comment too much they say you are a spammer. If you disagree strongly they will just cut you off. The site is full of right-wing nuts and ex-Hillary supports that continue to feel their candidate was cheated, so they try and smear Obama any way they can. The danger is that their crap gets picked up by the MSM.
Hmm. Sounds almost exactly like what fascist regimes do to their people, doesn't it?
Frackin fascists..
conservatives embrace judeo-christian beliefs so they cant and dont organize internet grassroots campaigns? or maybe theyre all just computer illiterate? he should explain himself a bit better before he blames religious values for their own incompetence.
fundie homeschooling programs?
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Nothing smacks you down like the honest truth. That is why your kind lost power.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
...as someone who's worth taking a swing at. Because the truth hurts but it kills Republicans. Look at it this way, John: It's better than being ignored and to not be taken seriously. That's something with which I'm totally familiar.
Anyways, here's a quick toot to give ya'll what my life has been like in the post-douchebag era. I've taken, ironically, something like a Zen Apartment, even though, despite my novel's title, I'm not into Zen. But this ought to give anyone who cares an update until I can write something substantial (and political!).
JP
http://giveusthisdayourdailtydread.blogspot.com
The single best political writing I have ever had the pleasure to read. The author, Jurrasic Pork, is nearly homeless now through no fault of his own.
I will be extremely pleased when he can afford regular internet service again.
I imagine some of you have read the comment sections on right wing websites, and if that is their idea of "Judeo-Christian" values I would hate to see what the devil worshipers among them have to say.
They are NOT nice, and half of them are all but totally illiterate.
I'm not a Christian, but I practise "Christian values", and feel pity for them: they know not what they do. Then move on.
far left loon >.<
You're right, they are to be pitied.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
You know, I've transitioned mostly out of evangelical Christianity, and hold to a liberal Christianity now with an openess to reading about other traditions and such, but I do have my failings, my temper, my swearing ability (two languages worth with smatterings from other languages, lol), but I've never pretended that I was behaving in a Christian manner when I do those things, like lash out at someone, for instance (wrath being one of the Seven Deadly Sins and all). The thing about wingnut "Christians," is they tend to do all those things and more, but lie to themselves and everyone else that they're somehow pleasing God when they do it!
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
I got kicked out of Red State after a dozen posts, or so. Not soon enough to avoid several death threats.
In fact, on the handful of wingnut sites that allow comments, it generally only takes 2-3 reasoned, grammatically correct, correctly spelled posts, without obscenities to get a death threat.
Come to think of it, that is basic Judeo-Christian behavior, if you ignore the New Testament. (Which was actually written by Red Communists in 1923 and then sent back in time.)
If you're going to go into the blogosphere, wear a tough skin. I am amused when these whack-jobs send e-mails to my YouTube account. I just laugh about it. They are usually rabid, incoherent and inane. What's to take seriously? Sometimes I toy with them, becasue I know their heads are exploding, but I'm laughing. (Great stress relief; blow off steam. It's cathartic.)
far left loon >.<
Carthartic? I woulda guessed you Protestant.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
:D
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Also, it's also kinda fun to see the conservatives show their true colors. Makes me feel a whole lot better about being progressive.
Ya know, if you want to see what people are really about, you need to go beyond the PR and look at what they say to each other. I understand those folks out there who like to check out the right-wing sites. I like to see how the other half lives too.
I like to read the National Post once in awhile. That's the Canadian newspaper founded by Conrad Black to provide a conservative voice. The National Post is the number one reason I will never, ever, vote for any conservative party. I have seen the true face of conservatism and have found it scary.
That whole dog-eat-dog, cut-throat, anything to get ahead mentality really creeps me out. There's also a message that compassion is for wimps. (Compassionate conservatism is where they make the streets safer before they throw you out into them.) Very macho stuff. No wonder the right has a gender gap problem!
And the contempt for the poor is thick enough to cut with a knife. Low-income people are non-taxpaying free-loading losers who don't deserve to have any rights.
You've inspired me Edwin. I think next time I read the National Post, I'm going to look for something I can use to write a letter to the editor, and see what response I get, assuming they print it.
a lot of these posts with which he doesn't agree are posted by shit stirrers with NO political agenda. I remember one asshole on this site in the haloscan days who posted all sorts, ending with a pro bush page that turned into a goatse galleria. He was at home in mommy's basement typing one handed, and confessed to all of us that he enjoyed watching commenters get all het up and was going to a righty site and doing the same, while he was 'burning cds.'
In other words, the monolithic left is being indicted by this moran over what could well be many wind-up merchants. I don't know why anyone would want to visit those sites, much less waste time signing up and dropping shit that'll be deleted, asap. I'm sure they see it happen here, too.
me-oww!
I knew that if I didn't send that email to O'Reilly's sponsors Moveon would have shown up at my door to "help" me.
Moveon MADE me do it!
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
for years?
Ever heard of Free Republic?
Ever heard of GIYUS.org?
If you haven't heard of GIYUS, it's because they don't really want you to know about them. Google Desktop Megaphone or GIYUS for a lesson on how the pros wage Perception Management Warfare.
"A digital war has broken out, and the conservative movement is losing."
As you may have seen... First they came for the cats and nobody spoke up, then they came for the dogs and nobody spoke up, then they ...
As they rely on their self-perceived connotation of history looking forward, they have indeed erred in their prospectus.
It has been proven, time and time again, that a select group has chosen to retard or refuse information, services and the like, too the whole... or the masses if I may.
I could go on... though I see this as just par for the course. In an evolutionary environment, they cannot hold back the truth forever. Hence our exponentially progressive history and it's related facts.
PS. Unless we die... then it's a moot point! Though I'm optimistic ♥
Study the symptoms not the virus...
"The right, for the most part, embraces basic Judeo-Christian ideals and would not promote nor defend the propaganda techniques that were perfected in godless communist and socialist regimes. The current political and media environment crafted by supposedly idealistic Mr. Obama resembles Hugo Chavez's Venezuela more than John F. Kennedy's America."
It would be hard to top the smug,self congratulatory sanctimony of this numb-skull's post.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
He cannot believe what he said.
I used to post at democraticunderground and trolls regularly came over from freeperville (free republic).
Before that I posted at Black Voices, before it sold out to the Chicago Tribune and later to AOL, and there was much talk about empowerment of people of African descent. That is there was until the right wing trolls came to constantly disrupt the conversations with the foulest screeds ever.
Even in video threads of a political nature on youtube the right wing, jackbooted pseudo-christians feel compelled to either interject themselves into exchanges among like minded folks of the liberal persuasion with personal insults and pedestrian GOP talking points, or to send emails of the same to posters participating in the thread.
That is just so shitty.
I used to post at MixedFolks.com, and they would get trolls from Stormfront posting general nastiness. But then, some of the MixedFolks people would go stir things up at Stormfront once and a while too (the nazis must have enjoyed having a bunch of multiracial people riling them up, eh? / snark)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Blame progressive bloggers, but ignore the man, Bush, himself. The whole world saw what a whack-job Bush was (is), and he was universally hated (outside America). That also goes for progreesive Americans. I think that might have something to do with his demise, and that of the GOP. They fucked over your country and the entire planet.
far left loon >.<
McCain wasn't just begging wingnuts to attack he was BRIBING them to do so.
I was going to post on AB's article until I realized it was on the Moonie Times Web site... Cast ye not pearls before swine, in my opinion.
That's my favorite comic strip.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"the propaganda techniques that were perfected in godless communist and socialist regimes."
we are good at what we do.
"All power to the Soviets" is still my favorite.
About 2 weeks ago, I heard Thom Hartman on the radio say that the RNC, the Republican Party or some arm of the party pays followers to call into liberal radio talk shows and to comment on liberal blogs, espousing right-wing talking points that are distributed to them.
When progressives do this for free on right-wing blogs, that's free speech. But if right-wingers are doing this for money on liberal blogs without disclosing their financial relationship, and parroting talking points that are given to them instead of expressing their own thoughts, that's something more sinister. Why, I'd even call it a "cabal" or a "conspiracy" or whatever term Hannity and O'Reilly are tossing around about those in the so-called "liberal media" lately.
Between Fox News and the right-wing blogosphere, they run a very well coordinated propaganda machine. Nothing about it is spontaneous or born of free thought.
I am totally frustrated with Breitbart, they won't allow me to post, or I get negative marks just for posting facts.
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