This POS once said "If rape is inevitable, just relax and enjoy it."

One of the greatest coaches of all time. He took scrubs and won championships. He was never dealt the same players as duke, north carolina, kansas, etc. This man, like him or not, is in the top 3 coaches of all time.

Dear Bobby Knight,

Here is a good self test for whether something is un-ethical/steroid OR just a supplement like vitamins:

IF YOU INJECT IT WITH A NEEDLE

I have to hit the hay now,

I'm exhausted

And the horse hits back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlUC060cSso

Bobby Knight is a close personal friend of St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony LaRussa. He comes down to Spring Training every year in Florida. So he is likely a bit biased in regards to McGwire, who played for LaRussa for 90% of his career.

So if I give my 4-year-old son some Gatorade at his next tee-ball game, he may set the all-time home run record????

He's a nice guy and he didn't mean to.

That's pretty much his defense, right?

i think its more of an indictment of the entertainment and sports programming network than it is of coach robert montgomery knight.

i would have told knight that one is a substance banned by the united states for non medical purposes, the other is not. but no one at espn has any balls to tell him that. knight is a bully, you won't get any argument from me about that.

weight training, one-a-day plus iron multi-vitamins, eyeglasses, laser eye surgery, any surgery whatsoever, pain killers, cortisone, caffeine, Gatorade (so they say), and (at least for the Babe) tobacco and alcohol. And, of course, Tiger Woods's obvious favorite.

The supposed reason some performance enhancers are prohibited is to protect the athletes. Unfortunately, witch hunts seldom protect the witches.

But at least they're all pilloried for their own good.

...I've asked some of the same questions about this stuff. His point, I think, was to ask just who is responsible for decided what is a performance enhancer and what is not? I mean team doctors, or whomever, have been shootin' up guys in knees, shoulders, whatever, for years with steroids and pain-killers so they could play. Should that be allowed? Keith Olbermann took exception to BK's comments last night and cited some examples of athletes throughout history that didn't have steroids and/or HGH to get healthy on. My question to him would have been, does that mean that players shouldn't be allowed to have the Tommy John surgery?

Fact is, the history of human development has been marked by improvements in medications, diet, training and exercise regimens, etc., and the result is that each generation is bigger, stronger and faster. So what should be banned and what should be allowed?

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Dear Bobby Knight,
You asked a good question, "Who decides what can be used and what can't be used, and on what basis is that decision made?"

Now I have a QUESTION:
Why do YOU get to decide that Gatorade IS a "PERFORMANCE ENHANCING SUBSTANCE"?

XXOO
America

p.s.
Is cheating O.K.?

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...and Cardinal manager, Tony Larussa, are close friends. It's not surprising that Knight would take this position and implicitly defend McGuire, the new Cardinal batting coach. John and I have had the baseball/steroids discussion many times over the years. My position is that MLB itself must bear a good portion of the responsibility for the serial abuses of the past. They were the last pro sports league to finally acknowledge the elephant in the living room and reluctantly take steps to ban certain substances and institute a testing regimen. Steroid use was an open secret for a long time prior to that action, but attendance was soaring and they chose to ignore the problem. When juiced pitchers are throwing juiced balls to juiced hitters, who has the advantage? There is also a certain element of Claude Rains-like 'shock' and outrage being expressed by the sports press and some determinedly oblivious fans. To pretend that drug abuse is a recent phenomenon in sports is hypocritical in the extreme. Many baseball players chewed amphetamines like candy for decades and if it weren't for the common use of many other drugs, lots of our heroes of old wouldn't have been able to throw - or even walk - much less run.

How much you wanna bet if McGwire was a black athliet that Bobby Knight and many others would be singing a different tune? I don't remember what Bobby Knight had to say about Barry Bonds or Sammy Sosa? But I'm guessing it wasn't as positive.

Now, I don't want to criticize the former coach for choking a player during a practice, or getting in a fight with a college administrator in a Texas area salad bar, rather I'd like to focus on the amnesia some sports fans and ESPN analysts have when evaluating Knight's career.

His last NCAA championship was in 1987. 1987. Some of our C&Lers here weren't even born when IU beat Syracuse. And who was Syracuse's big monster threat?

Rony Seikaly.
Go ahead, take a minute to Wiki the guy.

Right, so after 1987, Bobby Knight's rep goes from the "Season on the Brink" and the NCAA title to some 2+ decades of FAIL. IU became a bona fide mark-it-one-and-done come tournament time year in, and year out. And if there's any doubt as to Knight's effect on his team, the FIRST year Mike Davis was head coach at IU, they made the NCAA title game.

Remember, when you see Bobby Knight on ESPN, that he's there because no college would touch him with a 12 foot pole due in part to his choking, on and off the court.

In a sense, he's right. There is a slippery slope in performance enhancing substances. If that's all you are concerned about. The difference is that electrolyte replacement can save your life in extreme sport and steroids can kill you in extreme sport. Most of us would think that is a big difference. But if winning is everything...

You're just finding that out?

This is a story? Lately, I've seen more and more entries on CAL that lean toward the sensationalism or knee-jerk-reaction side of the spectrum...didn't think I'd see one with a John Amato byline.

Now we're ripping on Bobby Knight because he says Gatorade enhances performance? Yeah, that like saying food and water are PEDs too, but so what is the point? The point is, where is the line drawn? Athletes are allowed to take a lot of things designed to enhance performance, while some are explicitly banned. I forget, but I believe their was a clear line back when McGuire was relevant to sports, too. He may have been "within the rules". There is now a clearer line, but its still a very arbitrary line. Knight's comment simply points out this. His first few sentences and last few sentences are logical and make good sense. The middle blah blah blah doesn't contain anything substantial at all except some anecdote about how far McGuire could hit a ball.

However, I'm not sure what you think Bobby Knight has to gain by helping McGuire "clear his name". I'm not even sure if what he said actually does help clear McGuire's name. I'm not even sure their is anything that can be said to that end. In short, I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.

McGuire is a douche (there, I said it, I sunk to name-calling)...and his admission and lame attempt at clearing the air was (is?) a big news story. Bobby Knight chiming in is not.